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Vol.220 和南风公公聊聊《短剧之王2024》

2024/12/19
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南风公公
阿硬
黄先生
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黄先生:我认为《短剧之王2024》的质量很高,但有些组合的夺冠原因我难以理解。今年的比赛中,很多组合都展现出了自己独特的风格和坚持,即使这些风格并不完全符合比赛的评分标准。例如,长袍老爹的表演舒服自然,注重细节,靠反应和互动取胜;Ya团的吐槽风格情绪饱满,笑点密集;而City Hotel 3号房的段子则设定老套,笑点对我来说意料之中。总的来说,今年的比赛有很多亮点,但也存在一些不足,例如赛制导致选手把好段子留在第一轮,第二轮质量下降,决赛难以精彩。 对于M-1大赛,我期待能出现新的冠军,打破令和浪漫的垄断。我认为令和浪漫今年可能拿不到冠军,因为他们已经创造了历史,连续夺冠并不现实。 阿硬:我觉得《短剧之王》的质量逐年提升,但仍存在很多我看不懂的地方。今年决赛选手大部分都是往届熟面孔,只有少数是第一次参加。长袍老爹的段子很舒服,注重细节,反应真实;段平刀姆乔的段子设定抽象,吐槽点不够多,整体比较平;City Hotel 3号房的段子题材不新鲜,笑点意料之中;Ya团的段子虽然好,但我对他们期望值太高,没有惊喜;Cotton的段子节奏卡得很好,但梗比较少;日本社长的段子设定很有意思,但表演太平,吐槽方式单一;Fire Thunder的段子结构很好,但节奏略短;Cacao的段子节奏卡得很准,但缺乏足够的梗;邻人的段子不如去年好,设定老套,缺乏进步;Love Letters的段子规整,但缺乏组合自身的风格和灵魂。 对于M-1大赛,我觉得令和浪漫已经创造了历史,今年可能不会再夺冠。 南风公公:松本人志的离开会影响《短剧之王》的氛围和点评,评委年轻化也导致点评风格的变化。今年的《短剧之王》决赛,三个组合都有明显的缺点,但都坚持了自己的风格。长袍老爹的表演舒服自然,注重细节;情书的段子很抽象,但直接参加M-1也是可以的;Fire Thunder的段子干净利落,没有明显的缺点。 对于M-1大赛,我认为短剧的创作难度比漫才更高,希望以后能看到更多有自己风格的短剧,拓宽喜剧的边界。令和浪漫连续夺冠并不现实,今年的冠军很有可能属于其他组合,例如Ya连斯。

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What were the key changes in the judging panel for the 2024 Short Play King competition?

The key change in the judging panel was the absence of 'that man,' referring to Matsumoto Hitoshi, a long-time influential judge. The panel included previous champions like Yamauchi Kenshi (2017), Kuwata Shunsuke (2011), and Koga Eiji (2012), with the addition of Shirota Jiro (2019) as a new judge.

Why did the format of the Short Play King competition lead to weaker second-round performances?

The format of the competition, which combines scores from two rounds, incentivizes participants to save their best material for the first round. This often results in weaker second-round performances, as participants may not have equally strong material for both rounds. Additionally, the second round's scoring is less impactful, making it less critical for participants to excel in that round.

What was the standout performance in the 2024 Short Play King competition according to the hosts?

The standout performance was by the group 'Nagaboshi Oyaji' (Long Beard Old Man). Their skit, which involved a man trying to buy flowers for a girl, was praised for its natural humor, subtle interactions, and strong character dynamics. The hosts particularly appreciated the nuanced reactions and the way the skit avoided over-the-top comedy, focusing instead on realistic and relatable humor.

How did the cultural context of Japan influence the reception of certain skits in the competition?

Cultural context played a significant role in the reception of skits. For example, a skit about a baseball team struggling to find a practice space resonated less with Japanese audiences due to the overuse of baseball-related humor in Japanese comedy. Similarly, a skit about live-streaming sales, which is a common theme in China, felt fresh to Japanese audiences who are less exposed to this format.

What was the overall sentiment of the hosts towards the 2024 Short Play King competition?

The hosts had mixed feelings about the competition. While they appreciated the high production quality and the dedication of the performers, they also noted that many skits were difficult to understand or lacked clear comedic logic. They felt that the competition often rewarded unconventional or abstract humor, which sometimes left them confused about why certain skits won high scores.

What are the expectations for the upcoming M-1 Grand Prix based on the discussion?

The hosts expressed excitement for the upcoming M-1 Grand Prix, with particular interest in whether the group 'Reiwa Roman' can achieve a second consecutive championship. They also highlighted other strong contenders like 'Vacuum Cleaner' and 'Tom Brown,' noting that the competition is expected to be fierce, with many seasoned and new talents vying for the title.

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节目伊始,三位主持人分享了对《短剧之王2024》整体观感的初步印象。他们认为比赛质量逐年提升,但部分作品的夺冠原因难以理解。他们还讨论了比赛赛制对选手策略的影响,以及评委阵容的变化对比赛氛围的影响。
  • 第17届《短剧之王》落幕
  • 三位主持人对比赛的整体感受:看不懂高分作品的夺冠原因
  • 赛制影响:两轮比分相加,导致选手策略调整
  • 评委阵容变化:松本人志退出,年轻化评委阵容带来新变化

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主播 | 黄先生 阿硬 嘉宾 | 南风公公 日本一年一度的喜剧比赛《短剧之王2024》落下帷幕,我们邀请到了日本喜剧资深爱好者和实践者南风公公 ,一起聊了聊本届大赛,并对今年的M1做了展望,敬请收听本期节目。 00:02:12 对本届比赛的整体感受 00:14:57 长袍老爹00:27:23 段平刀姆乔00:33:50 City Hotel3号房00:44:50 Ya团00:48:10 Cotton00:56:05 日本的社长01:05:38 Fire Thunder01:15:20 cacao01:21:57 邻人01:28:25 Love Letters 01:33:50 第二轮作品 01:48:40 对M-1的展望