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EP37:Sapiens: From Big Bang to AI

2025/5/13
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Speaker 1: 我认为哈拉里非常擅长将过去、现在和未来联系起来。这本书真正地将过去、现在和未来联系在一起。认知革命是关键的转折点,它使我们的祖先发展出了语言和抽象思维,能够想象事物,创造想象的秩序,并最终统治地球。我们对金钱的价值只存在于我们都同意它存在。这些想象的秩序可以深刻地塑造我们的行为,即使我们内心深处知道它们只是故事,我们仍然像它们是真实的一样行动。 Speaker 2: 哈拉里在书的开头就提到了时间的广阔。人类有记载的历史只占极小一部分。600万年前,我们的祖先还在树上荡秋千,与黑猩猩有共同的祖先。如今,我们已经登上月球,分裂原子,创造人工智能。令人震惊的是,我们甚至不是地球上唯一的人类。曾经,地球上同时存在着尼安德特人、直立人和丹尼索瓦人等多种人类。问题是,为什么只剩下我们了?

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All right, so today we're diving deep into Yuval Noah Harari's Sapiens. Specifically the 10th anniversary edition. Yes.

And you've given us a stack of chapters and excerpts. It's going to be quite the journey. We're going to go from the Big Bang to AI. Wow. From hunter-gatherers to empires. The whole span of human history. And not just what happened, but why it still matters now. Exactly. And I think that's one of the things that Harari does so well in this book. He really makes those connections between the past, the present, and the future. He does. He kind of like zooms out right. And at the very beginning of the book, he talks about the vastness of time.

13.8 billion years. But then he really zooms in on this tiny sliver where all of recorded human history has happened. Just a few thousand years. It's crazy. It puts things in perspective. It really puts things into perspective. It's humbling to realize for...

most of Earth's existence, we weren't even a blip on the radar. No, we weren't even here. Right. And then all of a sudden, bam, here we are. Yeah. And six million years ago, our ancestors were swinging from trees, sharing a common ancestor with chimpanzees. Right. And today we're walking on the moon.

Splitting the atom. Creating artificial intelligence. It's unbelievable. The speed of that transformation is mind-boggling. It is, and it speaks to the incredible adaptability and ingenuity of our species. But it also makes you wonder, was all that progress beneficial? It makes you question. What were the trade-offs? Yeah, what were the costs? So let's talk about some of those pivotal moments that Harari highlights in the book. Okay. Starting with the cognitive revolution about 70,000 years ago.

This is when our ancestors developed language abstract thought. The ability to believe in things that don't physically exist. It's what allowed us to cooperate in larger groups. To imagine things. Right, to create those imagined orders and to ultimately dominate the planet. Which we'll talk about more later, but the cognitive revolution was a game changer, no doubt. It allowed us to create those imagined orders.

orders like money like money like empires like religions it's like things that don't exist in the physical world right but we all agree to believe in them exactly and it has such a profound

impact on our behavior. Think about money. Right. The value we place on it only exists because we all agree it does. Yeah. That shared belief is incredibly powerful. I never thought about it that way. But also makes the system vulnerable. Oh, interesting. Okay. We've got the cognitive revolution and we've got language and stories and the ability to like imagine things. Right.

But physically, we were still pretty much like our early ancestors. Yeah. Like two million years of Homo sapiens in East Africa. Just living like other primates, foraging for food, raising their young, you know. Not building cities. Nobody would have predicted that they'd be capable of the things that we're capable of today. And here's the thing that I just find totally mind blowing is that like we weren't even the only humans on the planet.

Right. For a time, like there were Neanderthals, Homo erectus, Denisobans. Multiple human species. All coexisting in different parts of the world. And the question is, why are we the only ones left? That is a big question, right? What happened to them? Did we outcompete them? Did we drive them to extinction? Yeah. What does that say about us and our relationship with other species? Both past and present. Because we're still driving countless species to extinction. Right. Through habitat destruction. Through climate change. Yeah. Have we learned...

Have we learned from the past? From the past? I don't know. Okay, so we have these big brains. Yeah. And we kind of think of them as like our crowning achievement, right? Yes, but... But as Harari points out, they came at a cost. Yeah, they're energy hogs. Yeah. They made childbirth more difficult. Right. And they weakened our muscles compared to other primates. So like walking upright, while beneficial in a lot of ways, also led to like back pain and foot problems. It's a classic example of...

evolutionary trade-offs. Yeah. Every adaptation has its advantages and disadvantages. It's true. And there's one adaptation that really stands out as a game changer, and that is our mastery of fire. Oh, yeah, fire. Right. Fire was obviously crucial for warmth and protection, but...

Harari really focuses on fire for cooking. Because cooked food is easier to digest. Right. Which freed up energy for our brains to grow larger. Allowed us to spend less time foraging. Yeah. More time socializing. Developing language and culture. And that is fascinating. It's amazing, right? How seemingly small changes can have these cascading effects. Right. Rippling through time to create massive shifts in the course of history. It's like the butterfly effect, right? Exactly. Small change here, huge change over there.

It's a reminder to pay attention to those subtle but powerful forces. That are shaping our world. Okay, so we've got big brains, we've got fire, we've got tools.

But for a long time... They were still relatively insignificant on a global scale. Yeah, we weren't having like a huge impact. Right. It wasn't until about 100,000 years ago that we started to really make our mark. And that's where things take a bit of a dark turn. Yeah, and this is where Harari calls homo sapiens. The ecological serial killer. Right. And unlike other predators who evolved alongside their prey... Right, allowing ecosystems to adapt. We spread rapidly. Across the blue. And wherever we went, mass extinctions followed. That's

That's a sobering thought. It is. We tend to think of our impact on the environment as like a modern problem. Yeah. But the truth is we've been causing extinctions for...

Tens of thousands of years. The megafauna of Australia. The giant sloths of the Americas. The moa birds of New Zealand. They all disappeared shortly after humans arrived. And it wasn't even sophisticated technology that did it. No. It was our mastery of fire and hunting techniques. Right. Large animals, especially those that reproduce slowly, couldn't adapt fast enough. So it's a reminder that we have a long history of disrupting ecosystems. Absolutely. And it raises all these questions about our responsibility to the planet.

If we connect this back to the bigger picture, it really highlights the need for us to be more mindful of our impact on the environment. We have a responsibility to protect biodiversity and to mitigate the damage we've already done. It's a challenge, but it's also an opportunity to learn from our past mistakes and create a more sustainable future. Right. Okay, so we've been hunter-gatherers. We've spread across the globe. We've caused mass extinctions, but then something truly revolutionary happens.

And that is the agricultural revolution. Yes. About 12,000 years ago, humans began to cultivate crops and domesticate animals, led to settled communities, larger populations, and eventually the rise of cities and civilizations. And you would think this would be a major step forward. Yeah. Like we're progressing, right? That's what we're often taught. But Harari challenges that narrative. Oh, really? He calls the agricultural revolution history's biggest fraud.

Okay. I'm intrigued. Tell me more about this fraud. Well, he argues that from the perspective of individual humans, the agricultural revolution was a downgrade in many ways. Wow. Hunter-gatherers had a more diverse diet. Okay. More leisure time. Huh? And were less susceptible to disease. Ooh. Philomeras, on the other hand, were tied to their land. Yeah.

Worked longer hours and were more vulnerable to famines and epidemics. So it's like we traded freedom and variety for stability and predictability. And maybe that wasn't such a good deal. Yeah. And it makes me think about my own life, how busy and stressed I feel sometimes. Right. Maybe there's something to be said for a simpler way of life. He uses the example of wheat.

to illustrate this point. - Okay. - He says, "We didn't domesticate wheat. "Wheat domesticated us. "We became dependent on this one crop." - Oh, it's so interesting. - "And our entire lives revolve around its cultivation." - It's like this thing that we think we're in control of is actually controlling us. - It's a question worth pondering. - Yeah. - What other systems have we created that might be controlling us in ways we don't fully understand?

Like social media, the 24-hour news cycle, our jobs. Okay, so we've gone from hunter-gatherers to farmers. We've built villages and cities. But how did we manage to create these large-scale societies? Right. Where thousands, even millions of people live together. Because humans aren't naturally wired for that kind of cooperation. No, we're not. So that's where those imagined organizations

orders come in. Okay. Harari argues that the key to building large-scale societies was our ability to create and believe in shared myths. So it's not just about brute force. No. It's about stories. It's about shared beliefs. Exactly. Okay, give me an example. Take a Harari's Code, for example. Okay. It's one of the earliest known sets of written laws dating back to ancient Mesopotamia. Okay. These laws were said to be handed down by the gods. Giving them like an authority. A divine authority.

That goes beyond any earthly ruler. Exactly. Oh, it's so fascinating how these stories, how these imagined orders can shape our behavior so profoundly. Even if we know deep down that they're just stories, we still act or if they're real. And those actions have real world consequences. For better or for worse. For better or for worse. These imagined orders are the foundation of our civilizations. But they can also be used to justify things.

inequality, oppression, even violence. Right. Like the Declaration of Independence. It's a great example. It proclaims that all men are created equal. But it was written by slave owners. Yeah. That contradiction highlights how these imagined orders can be both powerful and problematic.

It's a reminder that we need to be critical of the stories we tell ourselves. Absolutely. To question their underlying assumption. And to ensure that they're serving humanity. Yeah. Rather than the other way around. This is heavy stuff. It is. But it's also incredibly insightful. It really is. I'm starting to see the world in a whole new light. Okay, so we've got these large-scale societies held together by these imagined orders. Yes. But...

within those societies, there are all these smaller groups. Of course. Each with its own distinct culture. So how does Harari define culture?

He sees cultures as these dynamic, constantly evolving systems of shared values, beliefs, and practices. So it's not just about like traditional costumes. It's not just about the superficial stuff. It's about how we understand the world. Okay. How we relate to each other, how we make sense of our lives. It's like the operating system that runs in the background. Exactly. It shapes our perceptions and our behaviors. And what's interesting is that you're saying that cultures aren't static.

Right. They're constantly adapting and evolving, influenced by both internal and external forces. It's an example. He uses the example of medieval knights. Oh, yeah. Who were supposed to be these pious Christians. Okay. But they were also obsessed with violence and honor. That seems like a contradiction. It does seem like a contradiction. But he argues that it's precisely these kinds of contradictions that drive cultural change. Okay.

Like the tension between those opposing values creates this kind of creative friction that leads to new ideas, new behaviors, new ways of being. Exactly. Interesting. So if cultures are always evolving, what about the bigger picture? Are we heading towards a more unified global culture or will those distinct differences always remain? That's a question that he grapples with throughout the book. He points out that in the past, the world was a patchwork of

isolated cultures. Right. Each with its own unique language, customs and belief. Yeah. But with the rise of globalization, globalization, those boundaries have become increasingly blurred. It's like that saying everything is a remix. Right. Even the things we consider to be traditional or authentic.

are often products of cultural exchange and fusion. Like the British Empire. Oh, yeah. They spread their language, their laws, their culture to every corner of the globe. Right. But in the process, they also absorbed influences from the people they colonized. Creating this kind of like tapestry. A complex tapestry of cultural exchange.

Yeah, it's like a two-way street. Precisely. Even as they were imposing their will on others, they were also being changed by that encounter. And that process of exchange and influence continues today. Yeah, accelerated by technology and the interconnectedness of the modern world. Exactly. We're exposed to ideas and influences from all over the globe. Exactly.

Which can be both enriching and disorienting. Yeah, it's excited but also a little overwhelming. Right. So with all this mixing and mingling, are there any like universal orders? There are a few that stand out. Okay. One of the most powerful is money. Oh.

money the root of all evil or the engine of progress I'm curious to hear what Harari has to say about it he calls it a shared hallucination okay he uses the anecdote of Cortez and the Aztecs to illustrate this point right the Aztecs couldn't understand why the Spanish were so obsessed with gold right to them it was just a pretty metal not something to kill and die for right they used it for decoration exactly but to the Spanish gold represented wealth and power and

Yeah. A belief that was shared across cultures and continents. It's funny because it highlights how money has this power. Yes. That's completely based on belief. It's a system of mutual trust that allows us to convert anything into anything else. It's true. Like a piece of paper, a digital token. They have no intrinsic value. Right. And we imbue them with meaning and suddenly they can buy us food shelter experiences.

It's an incredibly powerful system. It is. But as Harari points out, it also has its downsides. Right. Money can erode traditional values. Turn everything into a commodity. Yeah. Even undermine the very foundations of trust that it's built on. It's a double-edged sword. Absolutely. It can facilitate cooperation and innovation. But it can also lead to greed, inequality, and exploitation. Okay. So money is one universal order. Mm-hmm.

What about empires? They've played a huge role in shaping human history. Absolutely. But we often view them as purely about conquest and domination. Right. Does Harari offer a different perspective? He does. He acknowledges the violence and exploitation that often accompany empires. Okay. But he also points out that they're about more than just military power.

Oh, interesting. Empires are about cultural assimilation, about shaping narratives, about leaving behind legacies that last for centuries. He tells the story of Numantia. Numantia? A small Celtiberian town that resisted Roman rule for decades. Wow.

They even defeated several Roman legions. Wow. They were eventually starved into submission and chose to burn their own city rather than surrender. It's a powerful story of resistance. It is. Even in the face of overwhelming odds. But what's interesting is that even though Rome ultimately

ultimately triumphed. Okay. The memory of Numantia's resistance continued to inspire people for centuries. It became a symbol. A symbol of defiance against tyranny. Yeah. A reminder that even the most powerful empires can be challenged. It's like a David and Goliath story but on a historical scale. So it makes you wonder about the nature of empires. Are they inherently destructive? Right. Or can they be forces for good? That's

That's a complex question. It is. On the one hand, empires have undoubtedly been responsible for immense suffering. Yeah. They've waged wars, enslaved populations, exploited resources. Right. But on the other hand, they've also been engines of cultural exchange, technological innovation and political unification. Give me an example. Think about the Roman Empire. Okay. They built Rhodes Aqueduct's legal systems that lasted for centuries.

Their influence can still be seen today. Right. In our language, our laws, our architecture. Like a mixed bag. It is. Good and bad progress and destruction all intertwined. And it raises another question. What's that? Are we, in a sense, heading toward a global empire of sorts? Driven by like interconnected economies. Yes. Driven by interconnected economies. Shared challenges like climate change. Right. The rise of technologies like AI. Exactly. That's a big question. And speaking of big questions, let's talk about religion.

Here again, Harari offers a perspective that I think might surprise some people. It might seem counterintuitive. Yeah. But he argues that religion, despite its reputation for division and conflict, has actually been one of humanity's great unifiers. Okay. That does seem counterintuitive at first. But when you think about it. Think about it. Societies are inherently fragile. Yeah.

The larger and more complex they become, the more they need something to bind them together. Right, to provide a sense of shared identity and purpose. Exactly. Religion has served that function throughout history, offering a superhuman legitimacy to social structures, laws, and moral codes. But it's not just about gods and rituals. It's about...

providing a framework for meaning and belonging. Right. It's about creating a shared story that helps us make sense of the world and our place in it. Yeah. But I'm also thinking about all the religious conflicts that have happened throughout history. Of course. The Crusades, the Inquisition, all the wars fought in the name of God. How does that fit into this idea of religion as a unifier?

It's a great question, and it's something that he addresses in the book. Okay. He acknowledges that religion can be a source of division and conflict. Yeah. Especially when it's used to justify violence or oppression. Right. He points out that the shift from polytheism to monotheism with its belief in one true God. Okay. Often led to greater intolerance and exclusivity.

The more certain we are of having the truth, the less room there is for other perspectives. Exactly. And even within monotheistic religions, there are often divisions and disagreements. Take Christianity, for example. There are hundreds of denominations, each with its own interpretation of the Bible. Exactly. And those differences can sometimes lead to conflict.

even violence. Right. But even with those divisions. Religion can still play a unifying role. By providing that sense of community. Exactly. A sense of community, shared values, and a common purpose that transcends those differences. So it's a complex issue. It is. With both unifying and dividing aspects.

And in a sense, even in the modern world, we see ideologies like liberalism and nationalism taking on some of characteristics of religion, shaping our beliefs, values, and behaviors in ways that can be both unifying and divisive. And that's an interesting point. We often think of religion as something separate from politics or ideology. Right.

But maybe those lines are more blurred than we realize. They are. Okay, we've covered a lot of ground here. We have. But there's one more big piece of the puzzle we need to explore, and that is the scientific revolution. Right. How does Harari frame science?

this pivotal period in human history. He sees it as a turning point, a moment when humanity began to shift from a reliance on traditional wisdom and religious dogma to a new way of understanding the world based on observation, experimentation and reason. So the scientific revolution challenged

long-held beliefs about the nature of the universe, the workings of the human body, and our place in the cosmos. It led to incredible advancements in medicine technology and our understanding of the natural world. But what's fascinating is that Harari argues that the scientific revolution wasn't inevitable. It wasn't?

Wait, what do you mean? It was a confluence of unique circumstances. Okay. A series of historical accidents that could have easily gone a different way. So you're saying that scientific progress isn't this steady march forward. Not necessarily. Driven by human curiosity and ingenuity. He points out that for scientists,

other civilizations like the Chinese were far more advanced than Europe in terms of technology and scientific knowledge. But they didn't experience a scientific revolution. They didn't. Why not? They lacked the specific combination of factors that came together in Europe in the 16th and 17th centuries. Like what?

A culture of intellectual curiosity. Okay. A willingness to challenge authority. Mm-hmm. And a system of universities and scientific societies. That fostered the exchange of ideas. Exactly. So it was a perfect storm of sorts. It was.

convergence of cultural intellectual and institutional factors right that allowed the scientific revolution to take root and flourish exactly and that raises a fascinating question laid on me our current systems the ones that dominate our world yeah truly the best ones are for humanity or are they or are they simply the ones that were successful at spreading themselves like mental parasites mental

That's a crazy thought. It's a challenging idea, but it's one that he wants us to grapple with. He's asking us to be critical of our own assumptions, to question the narratives that shape our understanding of the world, and to be open to alternative ways of seeing things. So basically, don't take anything for granted. Question everything. Be curious. Be skeptical. I like that.

And that's a great place to pause for now. Okay. We've covered a lot of ground from the cognitive revolution to the scientific revolution, from imagined orders to the accidental nature of progress. And in the next part of our deep dive, we'll explore how these themes play out in the modern world. Okay. From the rise of capitalism to the challenges of artificial intelligence. I can't wait to continue this conversation. This has been a truly enlightening journey so far. Me too. So we've been exploring this incredible journey of Homo sapiens. From those origins.

early hunter-gatherers to the world-altering scientific revolution. Yeah, and we've seen how our species' unique ability to cooperate in large numbers, fueled by shared myths and imagined orders, has shaped the course of history. But it makes you wonder, with all this progress, all this advancement, Right.

Are we actually any happier? That's the million-dollar question, right? It is, and Harari tackles it head-on, exploring different perspectives on happiness throughout history. Okay. He even suggests that our relentless pursuit of happiness might actually be making us miserable. Okay, that's interesting. How could chasing happiness make us unhappy? Well, think about it. We're constantly bombarded with messages telling us we need more stuff, more experiences, more achievements to be happy.

It's like you're not enough. You got to get more, do more, be more. But as Harari points out, happiness is a complex phenomenon influenced by both external factors and our own internal biochemistry. It's not as simple as just getting what you want. Exactly. Studies have shown that while money can increase happiness up to a certain point, once basic needs are met. Yeah.

It's not a guarantee of lasting contentment. So are you saying money can't buy happiness? Not necessarily, but factors like social connections and meaningful work and a sense of purpose play a much larger role. So it's about more than just material possessions. Exactly. It's about feeling connected, having a sense of belonging and contributing something meaningful to the world. Yeah, like those intrinsic rewards rather than just the extrinsic ones. Precisely. And then there's the whole issue of expectations.

Right, like keeping up with the Joneses. Our happiness is often relative to what we expect. Yeah. And those expectations are constantly being shaped by the world around us. Advertising social media, the relentless pursuit of more. It all contributes to a sense of dissatisfaction. Like we're never quite enough. Harari also explores this from a Buddhist perspective. Okay. Buddhism teaches that the root of suffering is attachment.

Attachment? Clinging to fleeting feelings like pleasure or satisfaction. Okay. The key to happiness, according to Buddhist philosophy, is to detach from these cravings. So like let go of the outcome? To find peace in the present moment. Be present, yeah. Rather than constantly chasing after something we don't have. I could see how that could be liberating, but it also sounds really hard. It is a challenge. Like isn't ambition the desire to achieve and experience new things? Part of what drives us forward as a species? It's a valid point. Okay.

I mean, it's what got us to the moon, right? The Buddhist perspective challenges our modern obsession with achievement and equizin. Okay. But it doesn't necessarily negate the value of ambition or striving for something better. It's more about finding a balance. Exactly. Recognizing that external achievements are impermanent.

cultivating a sense of inner peace that isn't dependent on those things. Like finding a middle path, recognizing the value of both striving and contentment? Precisely. Okay, so we've explored the past to present, the complexities of happiness. We have. What about the future? What does Harari see on the horizon for Homo sapiens? That's where things get really interesting in the latter chapters of Sapiens. Harari explores the potential for humans to transcend our biological limitations.

Okay. To shape our own evolution in ways never before imagined. Like becoming superhuman. He argues that we're moving from an era of natural selection to an era of intelligent design. Wait, intelligent design. Isn't that a religious concept?

It's often used in my context, but Harari uses it in a broader sense, referring to our increasing ability to manipulate life at a fundamental level. Okay, I see what you mean. Give me some examples. Think about genetically modified organisms, bioengineering, cyborg technology, artificial intelligence. These are all examples of how we're taking control of the evolutionary process.

Moving beyond the limitations of our biology. Exactly. We're not just passively adapting to our environment anymore. We're actively shaping it, designing it, even redesigning ourselves. That's both exciting and a little scary. It raises a whole host of ethical questions, right? Like who gets to decide what kind of humans we become? Right. Will these advancements benefit everyone? Or will they just create new forms of inequality?

These are questions that we as a society need to be thinking about now. Yeah, before these technologies become so powerful that we lose control of them. Karari uses the example of Alba, that fluorescent green rabbit.

Oh yeah, I remember reading about that. Created by splicing a jellyfish gene into a rabbit embryo. It sounds like a harmless novelty. It might seem that way, but it highlights the potential for us to redesign life, including our own, in ways that could have profound and unforeseen consequences. It's like opening Pandora's box. Once we have the power to manipulate life at that level, it's hard to know where it might lead.

And he explores these possibilities across a range of technologies. Okay. Signboard technology, for example, is already being used to enhance human capabilities. Like pacemakers and prosthetic limbs? Exactly. But imagine a future where brain implants allow us to interface directly with computers. Wow.

Or where bionic enhancements blur the lines between human and machine. It's like something out of a science fiction movie, but it also makes you question what it even means to be human. Exactly. If we can enhance our bodies and minds with technology, where do we draw the line? Yeah, what makes us uniquely human? It's a profound question and one that I don't think there are easy answers to, but it's a conversation we need to be having.

Absolutely. And then there's artificial intelligence, perhaps the most destructive and unpredictable of all these technologies. We're creating programs that can learn, adapt, and even outperform humans in certain tasks. It's incredible and a little unnerving. What happens when these programs become self-aware? Yeah.

Or when they surpass human intelligence. Do they become our partners, our rivals, or something else entirely? It's both exciting and terrifying to contemplate. It is. Harari emphasizes the importance of stories in this context. Okay. Remember in Sapiens, he argues that our ability to create and believe in stories is what sets us apart from other animals. It's what allowed us to build those large-scale societies. Exactly, to cooperate with strangers to tape our world. Right. But now with AI, we're facing a new...

Reality machines that can create stories too. So it's like we've given birth to a new storyteller. Right. One that might not share our values or goals. What happens when AI starts creating new myths new ideologies new ways of understanding the world. Yeah. Who controls the narrative then. That's a crucial question and one that Harari doesn't shied away from. Does he offer any solutions.

He suggests that we need to be very careful about how we develop and deploy AI. If we're not mindful, we could end up creating a future that we don't want. A future where machines are in control. And humans are relegated to a subservient role. It's a sobering thought, but it also highlights the importance of human agency.

of our ability to make choices and shape the future. - We're not just passive bystanders in this technological revolution. - Right. - We have the power to influence its direction. - Exactly, and that brings us back to Harari's fundamental question. What do we want to want? - That's a deep one. - If we have the power to shape our own evolution, to design our future, what kind of future do we want to create?

It's a question that shifts the focus from what we can do to what we should do. And it's a question that each of us needs to grapple with. Because the future is ultimately shaped by the choices we make both individually and collectively. So it's not just about technology. It's about values. What do we value most as a species? What kind of world do we want to live in? What kind of legacy do we want to leave behind?

Those are the big questions that Harari wants us to ponder. He doesn't offer easy answers, but he does provide a framework for thinking about these issues in a clear, insightful, and often provocative way. I love that this deep dive into sapiens has been a real mind-bender full of surprising insights and challenging questions.

And it's not over yet. It isn't. You mentioned that Harari added some new reflections for the 10th anniversary edition. Oh, yeah. I'm eager to hear what he has to say. And those reflections are particularly relevant to our conversation. OK. As they address some of the major developments that have happened in the world since the book was first published.

Let's dive into those reflections in part three of our deep dive. Okay, we're back for the final part of our deep dive into sapiens. I feel like we've only just scratched the surface. Yeah, we've covered so much ground already. It's true, but that's the beauty of Harari's work. It sparks so many new questions and insights. It really does. And in this 10th anniversary edition, he revisits some of those big ideas. Right in light of the events that have shaped the world over the past decade.

It's like a check in, you know. Yeah. And he admits that when he first wrote Sapiens, he thought he was capturing a snapshot of humanity in 2014. Right. But a lot can change in a decade. And some of those changes have been more dramatic than he could have predicted. Yeah. He highlights the accelerating ecological crisis, the rise of nationalism and those rapid advancements in artificial intelligence. As key developments that have reshaped the global landscape. Yeah. Let's start with the ecological crisis. Okay.

It's hard to ignore the increasingly urgent warnings from scientists about climate change. Right. Biodiversity loss, the depletion of natural resources. It feels like we're at a tipping point. It does. A moment where we need to make some drastic changes if we want to avoid a global catastrophe.

Harari echoes that sense of urgency in his reflections. He does. He points out that we're facing a crisis of our own making. A crisis rooted in our exploitative relationship with the natural world. And he reminds us that Homo sapiens has been disrupting ecosystems for tens of thousands of years.

But the scale and pace of that disruption have accelerated dramatically. In the industrial age. Exactly. It's like we've been playing with fire for centuries, but now we're starting to get burned. And what's particularly concerning is that instead of coming together to face this global challenge, humanity seems to be pulling apart.

Yeah, it does seem that way. He points to the rise of nationalism, the escalating tensions between global powers. Erosion of trust in institutions. As trends that could hinder our ability to address this crisis effectively. It's like we're stuck in this vicious cycle. The problems get bigger, the stakes get higher, and instead of cooperating, we retreat into our own little tribes. Right.

Blaming each other instead of working together to find solutions. It's frustrating to say the least. Yeah. Okay. So we've got this ecological crisis looming. We do. And we're not exactly handling it with grace. What about the other big development? You mentioned artificial intelligence. AI, yes. That's something that Harari barely touched on in the original Sapiens. Right. It was still in its infancy when he wrote the book. Right.

But it's clearly become a major focus of his work in recent years. Has he even compared AI to a new species? Wow. One that could potentially surpass humans in intelligence? Okay. And even creativity? It's a mind-blowing concept, the idea that we're creating machines

that could one day become our rivals or even our successors. And what's fascinating is that he brings it back to the importance of stories. Remember in Sapiens, he argues that our ability to create and believe in stories is what sets us apart from other animals. Yeah, and it's what allowed us to build those large-scale societies. Exactly, to cooperate with strangers to shape our world. Right, those shared myths, those imagined orders, they're all based on stories. Exactly, but now with AI, we're facing a new reality machines that can create stories too.

It's like we've given birth to a new storyteller. Right. One that might not share our values or goals. What happens when AI starts creating new myths, new ideologies, new ways of understanding the world? Who controls the narrative then? That's the big question. And it's one that Harari explores in depth in his later works. Okay.

He warns that if we're not careful, we could end up in a world where AI controls the narratives, where machines shape our beliefs and values. Okay. Where humans become pawns in a game we don't even understand. It's a chilling thought, the idea that we could lose control of our own stories, our own destinies. But is there anything we can do to prevent that? Yeah.

Is there any hope? Harari believes there is. He stresses the importance of human agency, of our ability to make conscious choices about how we develop and deploy these technologies. So we're not just powerless bystanders. No, we're not. We have a choice. He urges us to have those difficult conversations about the ethics of AI, about the potential

potential risks and benefits about the kind of future we want to create? It's like a call to action, a reminder that we're not just passive observers in this technological revolution. We have a responsibility to shape its direction. To ensure that it serves humanity. Not the other way around. And he brings us back to that same powerful question that concludes Sapiens. What do we want to want? If we have the power to shape our own evolution, to design our future, what

What kind of future do we want to create? It's a question that forces us to confront not just our desires, but the underlying values and beliefs that shape those desires. It's a question that doesn't have any easy answers, but it's a question worth asking ourselves over and over again as we navigate the complexities of the 21st century. It is. We've covered so much ground in this deep dive

into sapiens from the Big Bang to the rise of artificial intelligence from the agricultural revolution to the potential for humans to transcend our biological limits. It's been a journey through time and across disciplines. Exploring the big questions that have shaped our species and the even bigger questions that lie ahead.

And while Sapiens doesn't offer easy answers, it does something perhaps even more valuable. It makes us think. It challenges our assumptions, expands our perspectives, and invites us to engage in this ongoing conversation about who we are, where we've been, and where we might be going. And if there's one thing we can take away from this deep dive, it's that the future is not predetermined.

It's being shaped right now. By the choices we make, the stories we tell, the values we embrace. That's both a challenge and an opportunity. It is. The challenge is to be mindful, to make choices that are aligned with our deepest values and aspirations. And the opportunity is to create a future that is truly worthy of our remarkable species, a future where knowledge, wisdom, and compassion guide our path. Well said. I think that's a perfect note to end on this deep dive.

has been a real mind-bender full of surprising insights and thought-provoking questions. It really has. I encourage everyone listening to keep exploring these themes, to keep asking those big questions, and to remember that the future is still being written. And we all have a role to play in shaping it. The journey of Sapiens continues, and so does ours.