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Romani Wisdom & Creative Practice: Jezmina & Paulina on Fortune Telling

2025/1/21
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Kate: 作为主持人,我分享了在经历洛杉矶山火灾难后,如何应对集体创伤和个人困境的感受与思考。我表达了对受灾民众的同情,并强调了在危机中寻求帮助和保持韧性的重要性。同时,我也分享了对新年的展望和期待,以及对未来充满希望的信念。 Jezmina & Paulina: 作为罗姆占卜师,我们分享了在面对个人和集体危机时的智慧和经验。我们强调了感受情绪的重要性,以及在生存模式和疗愈模式之间切换的技巧。我们还讨论了如何利用灵性工具和祖先的智慧来增强韧性,以及如何接纳自己当前的应对方式。我们也分享了对2025年的塔罗牌解读,以及如何利用占卜来帮助人们应对困境和找到解决方案。我们还谈到了如何平衡消极情绪和积极行动,以及如何利用自身的才能和社区支持来克服困难。 Paulina: 我分享了自己在离开包办婚姻和传统罗姆社区后,如何建立自己的事业和生活,以及如何将罗姆占卜传统与现代心理疗法相结合,为人们提供更全面的帮助。我强调了在面对负面评价和批评时,保持内心的平静和理解的重要性。同时,我也分享了自己如何通过安排时间来处理消极情绪,并保持积极的生活态度。 Jezmina: 我分享了自己作为混血罗姆人,如何传承和发展罗姆占卜传统,以及如何将自己的经历和观点融入到占卜实践中。我强调了尊重罗姆文化和避免文化挪用的重要性,并呼吁人们支持罗姆社区和关注罗姆人的人权问题。同时,我也分享了如何通过与他人合作,以及利用幽默感来应对困境和保持积极的心态。 Paulina: 我分享了在面对困境时,如何通过想象更糟糕的情况来调整心态,并通过照顾身体来提升身心健康。同时,我也分享了自己在与客户合作时,如何提供以解决方案为导向的建议,以及如何帮助他们度过难关。 Jezmina: 我分享了在面对负面评价和批评时,如何保持冷静和理解,以及如何将负面关注转化为积极结果。同时,我也分享了如何与合作伙伴一起应对挑战,以及如何利用幽默感来化解困境。

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This week I spoke with Jezmina Von Thiele and Paulina Stevens, co-hosts of the Romanistan) podcast. I talked to them about the tragic fires in LA and their advice on navigating dark times and finding personal and collective resilience. They shared advice on healing and self-care during crises, looking at the tarot card of the year, what they do when they're feeling uninspired or creatively blocked, embracing resilience, and the importance of bringing diverse perspectives to ancient traditions. Their new book, Secrets of Romani Fortune-Telling), introduces the history of the Romani people and their long-standing relationship with fortune-telling, exploring techniques like card reading, palmistry, dream interpretation, and tea leaf and coffee reading, many of which were created or popularized by the Roma. We discussed their distinct cultural upbringings—Paulina’s roots in a traditional Romani community and Jezmina's mixed heritage—and how they each work with people today. And at the end they each pulled a card that's meant to be a message of anyone who listens.

 

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