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I saw the news today that Cheryl Cole, as mother of baby bear, Cheryl, you know, Cheryl, Cheryl knee Tweety. They still call her Cheryl Cole now and then on social media. I'm not sure how much she likes that, but like we got to know Cheryl as Cheryl Cole. Cheryl official.

is the recipient of over 32 million dollars or pounds. I blacked out and I didn't see the currency, but it's a lot of money as the mother of the very dearly departed Liam Payne's baby bear. He did not have a will when he very tragically lost his life, I think over the summer under the alleged influence of drugs and alcohol in a hotel room.

This sent shockwaves around the world, and I don't mean to minimize it. Like, mental health is an epidemic, and drug abuse and alcohol abuse is so closely linked to mental health problems. And I mean, it's just very sad. But you can't help but feel sad.

My God. Like there are very few occasions, I'm saying, where you have a baby with someone, your relationship dissolves, they turn to drug and alcohol abuse, allegedly, and then you get $30 million for your child. It usually very, very commonly goes the opposite way. It will be years of like emotional pain.

strife and back and forth and terrible things. And then maybe, you know, because you've seen it from rock stars before, people who go down a dark path, very sadly, that money gets pissed away on this or that, or there are subsequent wives or there are subsequent gambling issues. Leave it to Cheryl, only Cheryl. Like if I married someone who went down that dark path,

There would be no $30 million at the end for my children, is what I'm saying. That like very rarely happens. I don't want young girls to be like, oh, huh, I can end up with, no. Like usually someone who sadly, again, and I'm very sympathetic, finds themselves in a dark place will squander anything that they would have set aside for you and also probably take money from the mother as well. Like it's a mess. And this is a mess, but...

You know, it's gone to the right place is what I'm saying. At least there was no like little wife who had nefarious intentions who got in there. You know, it's going to his child, which is I think that's what I would want. And I don't think I'm better or different to someone, especially in the music industry, very young, who loses themselves down that dark path. Like, and this is the thing you could it can happen to absolutely anyone.

So terrible tragedy, but one legal win, I think posthumously he's getting his money to the right place and that is his son. So that is probably like a peaceful ending to a terrible, terrible loss for him and his family. I am very excited to be launching season five of the podcast. Here's how I split up the seasons.

I get really busy and then I skip a week and I go, oh gosh, I'm meant to release a podcast every week. Well, this is season five. You had to wait two weeks for a brand new season. What's new about season five? Nothing.

I am thinking of introducing some bonus episodes. Please let me know. Would you like to hear from Bobby or from Violet? And I do have some ideas for Bobby. I have been toying with an idea of a Bobby segment called Sport Adjacent, where Bobby lets me know things that are going on in the sport world that I wouldn't otherwise care about. But these things are not sports. They're just sport adjacent. For example, this week, I was very interested in this.

Bobby told me that Donald Trump himself, the current president of what's left of America, has been tweeting about a former athlete, Deion Sanders, or Saunders, Sanders. Deion Sanders was like this incredible footballer. He's like an ultimate Hall of Famer. He's like the best athlete ever, according to some people. Apparently, he played professional baseball and football at the same time. And he was just amazing. I think he probably still does well.

sports casting or something like, forgive me, I don't know. I'm not into sports, but I am into what is sport adjacent. So Donald Trump has been tweeting that it's an outrage that Deion Sanders' son...

who is called Shadur Sanders, didn't get first draft pick in the NFL. So every year the teams will sort of rank the university athletes or whomever is up to join the NFL the next year and they do the best ones first. So if you're like first round draft, you're the best.

And it'll be like picking teams during PE. Like I choose you, I choose you, I choose you. So the best people always go first and then the least good people go for a little bit less money or a lot less money last. So apparently this Shadur Sanders, the child of Deion Sanders, is like ready to join the NFL. He's very talented. He should have been first draft pick by all accounts, but he wasn't.

Apparently, he takes after his father in more ways than one. He has a bit of a demanding personality. I'm not going to say attitude problem. I don't know this kid. But Deion Sanders had earned his place as like the best of the best. So he liked the finer things in life. He demanded a lot. He wanted to fly private jets. He was just like really flashy. And the son really hasn't earned that much.

And a lot of teams rightfully are like, well, we'll humble you then. We're not going to make you first draft. We don't want you on our team because you're going to be a problem. And that's when Donald Trump...

took to his Twitter and he did, what is wrong with NFL owners? Are they stupid? Deion Sanders was a great college football player and was even greater in the NFL. He's also a very good coach, streetwise and smart. Therefore, Shadur, his quarterback son, has phenomenal genes, all in caps. You know how Donald Trump feels about like,

and is set for greatness. He should be picked immediately by a team that wants to win. Good luck, Shadur, and say hello to your wonderful father. My God. Like, this man gets involved in all kind of messiness. So no, normally I wouldn't care about sports, but I like to hear about this stuff from Bobby. There's messiness and pettiness and real housewives behavior, if I'm honest, a lot of the time. And yes, I get excited about that.

I am on tour still. A lot of people have said, oh, your Palladium dates in London are done. Does that mean the tour's finished? No. The tour persists until the end of June. And I'm going to wild places like Truro, way far away, and Bristol, and Glasgow this weekend, Birmingham.

Guilford not bragging I'm in Cork on June 28th I am in Canada next week and the Canadian shows have sold out therefore we've added matinees at 4:00 p.m. if you want to get a ticket to my Ottawa show my Maria show or my Toronto show the link the best link for those tickets is through my bio in my Instagram or you can search for them but there have been people like I'm you know can get Canada

There have been people who've struggled to find the tickets. I don't know what the system is there, but I think if you try really hard, you can find them. Or just go to the link in my bio. That would be great. I've had a lot of messages from people coming to the Glasgow show on Friday night. I think it's at the arena, so I'm probably getting more messages because it's a bigger venue.

But the arena has announced that doors open at 6.30 and that there are special guests. Now, I think this is probably strategic and a lot of venues will do it because they don't want the show to be delayed if everyone arrives at 7.55.

you're not going to be able to have your bag checked or get in the door, get your ticket scanned and get a drink and get to your seat, go to the loo. You know, you're not going to be able to do that stuff. So it is wise to arrive a little bit early. 6.30 I think is...

egregious, you would be there for an hour and a half before the show starts. But hey, come an hour and a half early, have a glass of wine with your friend, whatever you want to do. But I am definitely not on stage until eight. There is no support act. I have said this so many times on my socials and it doesn't even bug me. I think it's refreshing. It reminds me, oh, not everyone sees everything you post on socials.

You can post as much as you like because you're not really annoying anybody. People just don't see it. I have been shouting from the rooftops this entire tour, my show starts at 8, and people still message me being like, what time? No support. Starts at 8. Interval at 10 to 9. Done by 9.45. That is always the play in the UK, though in Canada it is different. They're 4 p.m. shows and 7 p.m. shows, respectively. And I like that.

Oh, another thing Bobby told me about that is sport adjacent that I think the listeners of Telling Everybody Everything would love is this guy Belichick.

He is Bill Belichick. He's an American football coach who's 73 years old. He has a 24-year-old girlfriend called, of course, she's called Jordan, Jordan Hudson, and photos of them are making the rounds. So avid listeners of the podcast will know that the only thing I find more cringeworthy than a misguided man having a midlife crisis is a misguided man having a late-in-life crisis. And that's why I can't look away from this.

You will not know Bill Belichick, and neither did I, but I can tell you he's widely regarded as one of the greatest American football coaches of all time. He holds the coaching record of most Super Bowl wins, six, at

as a head coach, and that was with the New England Patriots, along with two more during his time as the defensive coordinator of the New York Giants for a record eight combined total Super Bowl victories as coach and coordinator. He was married to a real-life human woman named Debbie Clark from 1977 to 2006. Together, they have three children, born in 1984, 1987, and 1994. And then this.

Jordan Hudson, born in 2001. She's from the American coastal state of Maine, claiming to descend from a long line of fishermen, which checks out because this bitch caught herself quite a whale. She apparently met him...

on a flight. This is what Bill said a few years ago. At this point, she was still in college and the two apparently, quote, bonded over a philosophy project the student cheerleader had been working on. Tale as old as time. He snapped a selfie with her before parting ways. They also reportedly swapped contact info and, quote, remained friendly following the flight. That's what I like to do on flights. I love, when I was a young woman,

I would get my homework out and think, any man who helps me with this is definitely not a borderline pedo. Maybe that's the play now. Like there are different ways to be a gold digger and catch these disgusting old men. Like you could go straight to OnlyFans. But this Jordan, you know, she deserves the payday she's about to get because she went creative with it. She's like, I'm going to position myself as a student cheerleader that I am.

on a flight. Was she sat in business? Who are her parents? And I'm going to bring my homework out, spread my homework around and just see who bites. See what old man leans over my shoulder with his hot breath and goes, I'll tell you a thing or two about philosophy. Yeah, because you were alive when all the philosophers were writing this shit down. You went to school with Plato.

Not like Play-Doh that Jordan would know, like Play-Doh, like the real guy. Oh, God. So they hard launched in September 2024 when she posted her quote unquote twin flame, Bella Chick, to her Instagram.

What's the drama, little mama? Well, it all depends on how you see things. Either Jordan is a money-grubbing lolita commandeering a rich old football legend, or next month's cover girl of Entrepreneuse magazine. It all started cute late last year when Belichick asked staff to include Hudson on all his emails.

I actually like this girl. She's like, no, no, no, no, no. I'm in the business. Like, see, see me on it all because he's starting to lose it and I'm going to sidle myself in. Cut to this year's Super Bowl when Hudson appeared alongside Belichick for a cameo behind the Affleck brothers in an advert for hallowed American coffee and donut chain, Dunkin' Donuts.

According to reports, Hudson, quote, forced herself in, whereas Belichick, quote, saw it as a way for her to get paid. Other reports from the Dunkin' Donuts imbroglio said Hudson used her influence as his de facto agent to leverage an appearance in the commercial. Hudson continued to insert herself into Belichick's business for the now scrapped series Hard Knocks about North Carolina football, of which Belichick is the apparent reigning deity.

She reportedly demanded to be listed as an executive producer and given access to the dailies, which is the daily raw footage that is taken every day that might not necessarily be included in the edit. Like only really important people get access to the dailies.

of the show as it was recorded, telling NFL film executives to treat her with respect or they would not get to use Belichick's IP. And just last month, Hudson's LLC, Trouble Club Enterprises, filed trademarks for some of Belichick's signature catchphrases, which are currently owned by his former team, the Patriots, seemingly taking a page out of Taylor Swift's book, tacking Bill's version onto the end of all of his phrases.

And then the CBS This Morning interview. During the promotional interview for his new book, Belichick was asked how he and his girlfriend first met, prompting an abrupt, and I might even call it menacing, we're not talking about this, from Hudson, who was then revealed to be sitting nearby off camera watching a monitor like a tiger stuck in its prey.

Get it, girl. It's since been reported that she was a constant presence on set and the clip that aired was far from the only time she interrupted. At one point, Hudson reportedly left the set, seemingly expecting Belichick to follow her and delaying the interview by 30 minutes. In the aftermath of the CBS interview, people close to Belichick have been shaking their heads, calling the relationship alarming and Hudson a runaway train.

One source reportedly said friends are, quote, talking to him about her, but very gently because they know how deep in he is, before adding that Hudson saw an opening and she took it. The sheer volume of very young and vulnerable, underdeveloped women saying,

who have been objectified, used, abused, manipulated by very powerful older men is just staggering. And I don't condone elder abuse, which in a way it seems like this is. She's totally holding the purse strings, acting as his agent, micromanaging all of his business deals. But he's probably starting to lose it as well. He's almost 80 years old.

And good for her, I feel. I can't help but be a little bit proud and be like, yeah, you know what? For all of the young women that the patriarchy has like marginalized and pushed around, let this woman be doing what she's doing. And you know what else? He's a very powerful man. He had a wife for a number of years. I don't know a lot about this woman, but maybe, you know, being of the 70s when they got married.

She was like, okay, I'm just going to go along with this. Like he's the man, he's this big football coach. He's a really powerful guy. And what I have learned from fin doms, fem doms, dominatrixes as a whole, is that there are powerful guys who want to be dominated. Maybe this little girl, and I'm sorry, a 24 year old is a little girl to me. Like I appreciate she's a woman, a half naked, really beautiful woman on the red carpet. Like I love that for her.

But maybe she dominates him in every sense in the relationship. Which, yeah, it disgusts me. Like, I don't want to imagine this 24-year-old girl tying up and possibly pegging a 73-year-old American football coach. But, like, in a way, yes, I do. And she's taking that to the streets as well. She's like, I am no wallflower. I love that...

You know, and I said before about Liam Payne's inheritance, like all of his wealth and assets going to his son. Like, that's right. But presumably Bill Belichick's kids have benefited from his wealth for a number of years, their entire lives. They're all grown now. And this is someone else's baby. This little 24-year-old Jordan. Yes. Get your name on the land. Get your name on it, girl. What do you think?

Is Jordan Hudson a carry-on bird ripping every last bit of rotting flesh off this guy's rhinoceros carcass? Or is she a female Svengali with her mind on her money and her money on her motherfucking mind?

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of something, an art. I don't know. It's in New York City. It's an amazing event every year. The guest list is kind of kept secret. So it always feels like a surprise when you see who's been invited. And it's not free to go, by the way. It is a charity event. If you are invited to the Met Ball, then that just means you have the opportunity to purchase a table or a ticket. And that costs thousands. And then Donatella Versace herself has to approve your look

She'll be sent like photos and sketches of the outfit beforehand, and you have to stick to a theme. I don't remember any of the past themes. This one was something about black tailoring. It was like Superfly, black excellence in tailoring. That is very close, so I'm not even going to look it up. It's something like that. And I have seen in my lifetime a lot of like beautiful things

black tailoring, a lot of different looks. When I see those ladies going to church on a Sunday, and from my remedial knowledge, I would guess, well, they're definitely African, maybe Nigerian looks. The way that these women dress for formal days or for church is so exquisite. Now, there's not a lot of tailoring to do with the big head wraps that they do and then their dresses or

are very colorful and like beautiful silk or sometimes embroidered, sometimes just really thick structured fabrics. And they're wrapped around with a type of like corsetry. I just think they look so extravagant, so beautiful, almost a little bit Indian. Like have you ever been to an Indian wedding and you see how beautiful they look? The African women in my neighborhood going to church on a Sunday, um,

look like as beautiful but also with a headdress of some kind and I know that that's not tailoring I know that it's more about draping and wrapping and like embroidery exquisite fabrics fine but I think I would have liked to see more of those looks on the Met Gala red carpet because what I ended up seeing you know it was and here we all are like at home in a dressing gown like

Eve with a bag of Cheetos, like just judging the red carpet looks at the Met Gala. Like that's not fair. But it was too many suits for me. I don't like it. I don't like to see the female form in a structured blazer very often. I think now and then...

A nice pop of masculinity. Like when I see, I mean, I was at my good friend, Jennifer Mahalsky Bray's launch soiree for her new book called Styled. And it's really great. You can find it on Amazon. My stylist, Jen, you know, her name is Jennifer Mahalsky Bray, Styled. And the book is full of like beautiful photography tips and tricks for elevating your look, even if you don't have a stylist. And it's really great.

A lot of really good information for how to get into that industry if you're interested in fashion, fashion merchandising, styling, costume design, anything like that. But it's good for just everyday styling too. There are a lot of tips and tricks. You can like transform your wardrobe to make it more wearable, usable, and just feel more successful when you walk out the door. Feel authentic in your aesthetic.

So I was at the launch for that and it was such a success. It was a beautiful launch. I saw Laura Whitmore there who just celebrated her birthday and she looked amazing. She was wearing an Alice and Olivia floral suit. Laura is someone, when I see her in a suit, I think it's kind of a trademark of hers. I love it. She wears it well. She looks so beautiful, but she's not always in a suit. She does have, you know, these legs, daddy long legs. She'll treat us to like platform heels and a

short skirt. I mean, she just looks good in anything, but she really mixes it up. So like a suit, yes, now and then, fine. Fine, especially on certain people. Not if you got big hips like me. I have to be careful with suits. But to see a red carpet full of blazers, I don't know. I didn't like it. I didn't like it. I'm all for the theme. Yes, black tailoring, good. Let's see it. But I preferred looks like Cardi B,

I love Cardi B, but she wore this really embellished, like rich fabric, almost like velvet wraparound dress that had some tailoring. Diana Ross, she looked great. It was not a suit. It was this like big white feathery kind of look with a hat. Sabrina Carpenter was interesting because she had a suit on the top and then no trousers on the bottom. In true Sabrina Carpenter fashion, she's like, uh-uh, I wear body suits all the time.

My legs and bum bum will always be out. So it was a blazer on the top, though, with like long tails and then no trousers. She just didn't wear the trousers. Teyana Taylor, I thought, looked good. She was in a Marc Jacobs suit, but it was like very, very ornate. I will allow it. I think Kylie Jenner right now looks the best she has ever looked. I think she's laying off the fillers, taking a foot off that gas. She's clearly...

Well, you know, I think she's on the jobs. I have no evidence of this, but she looks thin and thin looks good on her. I'm sorry. I know it's toxic. Chapel Roan. I get it, but I don't get it.

I didn't like the suit. Anne Hathaway looked amazing in Carolina Herrera and her alleged facelift is working every inch of the red carpet. Did you see Kim Kardashian's look? The chrome hearts, like deep scoop above the bum, like cowboy hat thing. It was not one of my favorite looks for me. Not one of my favorite Kim K looks.

And then just like a bunch of suits that I just don't even want to mention. They just did not captivate me like I want to be captivated at the Met Ball. Oh, well, the person I think looked the best was Lupita Nyong'o. And I hope I'm saying this correctly. She just looks good all the time. She had this beautiful blue number and it was the perfect color for her. And it was long. It was gorgeous.

That was black excellence. But this was not. Did you see the clip that has been making the rounds? It's a snippet from a podcast of a pastor's wife named Kelly Steele describing the emotional abuse, neglect, and adultery she suffered at the hands of her allegedly holy husband. And I mean, it's winding me up.

Kelly has quite the contorted reasoning for the ordeal her husband inflicted on her. She said his behavior was a gift from God. "When I was going through a transition with him not being there on the weekends telling me, 'I hate you,' 'I wish I never married you,' I knew life and death is the power of the tongue. So I would tell him, 'You will love me one day. We will have a good marriage one day.'

On weekends, I would help him get ready to go and see his side chick and getting him ready for the night by ironing his clothes. I allowed God's voice to be louder than his. And yes, the two of them are now back together.

Even ardent church-going commenters were decidedly against Kelly's neo-First Testament approach to facilitating her husband's unethical polyamory. A sample. Girl, I don't understand this. God does not approve of this. As a wife of God places you in your husband's life to be his helpmate. And yes, there's a level of submissiveness, but in no way will God require you to be like that.

Ironing his clothes so he looks good to tramp around with other women. I'm curious what their vows were. I pray that she really starts listening to God and not the devil's lies and gains some self-respect and love for herself. Naturally, I did have some strong thoughts on this matter when the video came to my attention Sunday morning. Bobby had taken the kids to rugby. Jesus called him to do that as my man. And I just think like, I am reminded of women whom I cannot name because I do respect them.

and I love them and I would classify them as high performance. I would classify the women in my life as being high achieving, really capable, really smart women. And unfortunately, I think an abuser and a narcissist has a really good chance with a woman like that because a woman like that will sometimes walk away

Or often dig her heels in deeper. She will like refuse to fail. She will see that husband and his behavior as an extension of herself. She will absorb that man's shame as her own.

And I've seen this in a non-religious context where women just go, oh God, oh no, I usually do everything right. I am successful. I am smart. I'm capable. And my marriage is breaking down. Okay, well, I don't want everyone to think that I failed at this, so I'm going to fix it. I can clean it up. I just need to be smarter than he is and direct him back to righteousness. And

And that is sad. And it works for some people like men. You know what I think of men. I think they're a risk. I don't think that they have sense the way that we do. And I think they risk their own lives as much as ours. And this is why men don't live as long. This is why men's insurance is higher. This is why a lot of marriages break down. Because a man will go out for milk and just forget he has a family.

I'm sorry. And I don't say that to piss off my three male listeners. It is just factually true. It might not happen with every man, but it is a higher risk with men than women. I just don't think your brain works the same. I think you suffer from object permanency problems. I think you are so used to the women in your life carrying the mental load of

and you want her to be your mother, but then you resent her for being your mother, and then you turn 73, and you see some 24-year-old doing her homework in business class, and you just make fucking idiots of yourselves day in and day out. So I've also seen women in my life, women I know, more than a few, who turn to God for

in a cheating or abandonment or drug abuse or physical abuse or emotional abuse or stonewalling scenario with their husband. Their husband will be a loser in some way. And these, again, successful, high-achieving, competent women, they go, oh no, oh God, like I failed him, I failed, and they just glitch out.

Something in their brain like literally snaps and they go, oh, oh, if I can parlay this into a lesson from God, then it all will have been worth it. And you probably see all these women all the time in your own life. They go, yeah, he was cheating on me with a 24 year old that he met on an airplane doing her homework. But actually it was the best thing for our marriage. Huh?

Don't you think he could have learned to appreciate you and maybe behave himself without that 18-month glitch where he was fucking someone else behind your back? No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no. That's God's plan. That's God's timing. And you know, I trust God and I make the sourdough and I keep my mouth shut. And what happens to these women?

fine, you know, like do whatever you need to do to like get your life on the track that you want it. But you be careful about how much of a man's shame you absorb as you run because you will get sick from it. I don't even know why I have autoimmune disease, but I'm sure at some point in my damn life, I absorbed somebody's something. Well, I've absorbed a lot of people's something, but like it lives in you forever. It's not worth it.

You take these men back and you're just like pissed off for 10 years and then you leave them anyway, but now you have cancer, so like it's not worth it. On to Beyonce. In an inspirational omen of things to come for Violet and Fenugreis on my next tour, Beyonce flaunted her matriarchal legacy at the opening of her Cowboy Carter tour in LA on Tuesday by trotting out both of her daughters, 7-year-old Rumi and 13-year-old Blue Ivy, who has got to be at least as tall as Beyonce now.

Little Roomie, which will probably end up being her stage name now that I've said it out loud, Lil Roomie, made her stage debut, being enveloped in hugs by her mom and sis as Beyoncé sang a heartwarming rendition of Protector to her girls, while Blue Ivy stomped the house down performing the original choreography from her parents' hit single Deja Vu.

During a guest hosting stint on American Morning Chat show, The Today Show, mother of Beyonce, Tina Fey, reacted to the clip by saying, this is really showing me that my kids are not doing enough. I'm out here on tour with Amy Poehler. Where are my kids? They should open for us. I mean, there has been so much talk about Beyonce's kids on social media right now, and I'm not comfortable with it.

Blue Ivy was ridiculed as a young girl. And let's not forget that just because she looks like a long, strong, very well choreographed Beyonce twin right now. She's poised. She's beautiful. She's talented. She's only 13. Like that is a girl who looks 18 on stage. And that is a separate issue. I think she should be killing it in a dance like Deja Vu at her high school fashion show.

You know what I mean? Like, it's a lot. It's a lot to put on a 13-year-old to be like, you will be opening the Cowboy Carter tour. And I know she's not just any 13-year-old, but it's a huge gig. And there's nowhere to go from there. That's the worry. I have seen it, you know, and I just think,

that when your parents are very successful, that can afford you lots of wonderful things. But even I, my small level of famous on one island only success, I have to be careful that what I do doesn't eclipse the future talents and achievements and trajectories of my kids. Like I want my kids to achieve things on their own and be excited about it, not be like,

oh, I'm playing Madison Square Garden, but this is nothing like when I was 13 opening for the Cowboy Carter tour, you know? There is an element of like selfishness where I love watching Blue Ivy. Like I think it's so cool. She's so awesome. I love her.

She's talented, but it's like, oh, let a kid be a kid sometimes. I don't know. It's a fine line and only her parents can decide that. But when she was little, I remember she was in the media straight away and loads of people loved her. She was always seemed like the boss of the family, giving great face and side eye at awards. But a lot of people said she was ugly too. A lot of people said that she looked like Jay-Z, who's allowed to be ugly because he's a man and he's talented and he's rich.

But a lot of people were like, okay, Jay-Z's face on a little girl is very unfortunate. Well, all little kids look like their dad. And then they majestically transform into a mix of their parents. And Blue Ivy could not be more traditionally stunning now. So we kind of all forget about internet bullying her 10 years ago. And now Rumi and Sir...

are twins, a boy and a girl. We really rarely see them. And Rumi's out on this tour right now. But a lot of her excited mannerisms on stage are causing people to make diagnoses that they are not qualified to pathologize about a small child. They're going, oh, well, this is why they never show the twins. There's something neurodiverse about the twins. She's flapping her hands too much. She's doing this. She's too excited. Well, she's seven, number one.

And you still don't see the boy. And I just think, like, oh, because of what Kanye tweeted that was very defamatory about that family and those kids, and because they are offered up to the public, now everyone thinks they can weigh in on that. And it's just really toxic, really disappointing to watch, that, like, as much as we've learned and we're better on the Internet, there are people who still want to make a, like, medical classification about a 7-year-old girl, right?

who seems to me just to be like really excited to be with her family. I mean, who knows? I don't really think about it. Why? Because it's none of my business. And you know I love digging into other people's business. But this is a hard line even for me.

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Shop today in stores online at Nordstrom.com or download the Nordstrom app. I have so enjoyed solving and, well, you know, trying to at least solve a lot of your dilemmas on tour. If you're coming to see me on tour, then the dilemma section is the second section. I will give you my phone number and you can send me a text during the show. It's always a lot of fun.

Or you can email a dilemma or any question to tellingeverybodyeverything at gmail.com. Here are the letters this week. Catherine, I have herpes. In January, I found a small cut on my perineum that turned out to be HSV1, the cold sore virus. I had tested negative in 2021, but a blood test in 2024 showed I had it. Though the doctor downplayed it and said it was irrelevant without symptoms, which I have since learned is not true.

I'm not struggling with having it. My outbreak was very minor and likely won't recur. But with the stigma and how to approach dating, I don't know what to do. Being in my 30s, dating's hard enough without having to disclose something most people don't even know they have.

I've spoken to two people I'd been intimate with post-2021 who admitted they get cold sores, but they never disclosed it. Their reaction was basically, oh, it's no big deal. A nurse even told me I didn't have to tell future partners unless I had an outbreak. But online advice is the opposite. Always disclose.

I'm torn. Ethically, I feel people deserve to know. That's something I wasn't given. But I'm afraid of being rejected for something most people already carry. If I said it was oral HSV-1, few would care. But because it's genital, it suddenly seems worse, even though the risk is the same. So should I disclose it? And if so, how would you approach that conversation? Well, I mean, this is one time in my life where I am feeling...

very good about my pretty much lifelong avoidance of people going down on me. I don't like that. It's just not for me. I know that there will be feminists in the keyboard banging away right now being like, Catherine, a man has to go down on you to respect you. It's da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da. And like on some level, I agree. But yeah, like we tell people with HSV-1 on their lips that

to use like cold sore patches, not to kiss babies. Like during an outbreak, you have to be careful because cold sores on your lips are really contagious. But presumably, can you get genital herpes from someone having like a very, as you said, nondescript, very normal cold sore virus?

On their face. Maybe. It's the same virus, right? Like, forgive my ignorance, but you're right. Herpes, like genital herpes, has been stigmatized because it's fun to say, like, is a punchline. I'd be like, oh, you have herpes. Oh, I don't want to get herpes. Or, you know, all the men in this town have like secret kids and herpes. Like, it just works as a quick. It seems like funnier than chlamydia. Chlamydia is a pretty good word too. But HPV, you never hear that one.

BV we know is now an STI and you never hear that one. And that's not fair. And I actually do think that in your 30s, you are mature enough to make decisions that sit ethically right with you, regardless of what a nurse or doctor says, regardless of the online advice. Like, you know in your heart what you feel comfortable with. And you did not like it that someone with HSV-1 didn't disclose it to you.

I think that that is a feeling of betrayal, especially if that relationship were to bloom into a serious one, a long-term relationship by someone you're dating. You would never forget. You'd be like, yeah, but remember in the beginning when you didn't tell me you had HSV-1. Like, that was annoying. And then it's on them to decide. And I think it can be very useful. I hate to sound like these women parlaying, cheating into a gift from God, but I think maybe it is.

Not a bad thing to only have sex with people because that is an exchange of energy. It's a really powerful part of yourself. I'm not saying you should keep it under lock and key for like religious reasons, but you shouldn't just exchange that energy with any scrub. You should at least, I think, feel comfortable enough with someone to be able to have a conversation like that before allowing them to enter you.

So if it takes like three dates instead of two or five dates instead of three and you go, look, I have to disclose to you that without me knowing it, someone was contagious for the HSV-1 virus. You don't even have to call it herpes if you don't want to. Call it the cold sore virus. It's not your fault if they don't know what that is. There you go. There's my little like my little unethical piece of this puzzle.

Yeah, because the name herpes has been ruined. Just be like someone had active HSV-1 and I contracted it from them. So I do have that virus, though it is inactive. And I don't think I can spread it to you. I wouldn't feel right about myself if I didn't disclose that. And I think that will weed out losers or it will attract, you know, because losers, they were like, good, don't care. So it'll be both.

It'll be guys who already have their dick in their hands and are like, that is fine. What did you say about herpes? Not a problem. And it will be guys who go, okay, I so appreciate that you think enough of me to be transparent about something like that. Let's bone. Catherine, is it wrong to vent to friends about my marriage woes? No. What else are friends for?

I was hoping to get your advice on something. One of my close friends has been confiding in me about ongoing issues in her marriage. I've always tried to stay neutral, support their relationship, and focus on her happiness, even though I've had concerns about her wife being a bit controlling over who she spends time with.

Recently, her wife told her she is not allowed to talk to anyone, myself included, about their marital problems, saying it's disrespectful and that since I'm not married, I wouldn't understand. My friend asked if this is normal and whether she should stop confiding in me. So she already broke the rules already. I love it.

While I usually avoid taking sides, I am struggling in this case. This feels like a major red flag and honestly controlling behavior. If this were a heterosexual relationship, I'd feel the same concern. Am I wrong to feel this way? Is it appropriate to voice this to my friend? Or is her wife justified in wanting privacy within the marriage? They've only been married a year. I do worry this may be a sign of deeper issues. Ugh, yeah, it seems bad to me. I would say to my friend exactly what you've said to me. I've gone, look,

You've confided in me over the years about this relationship, which is now a very new marriage that, you know, seems to have some red flags in it. And that's what married people do. And they talk to their friends about all kinds of things in a very safe space. And that's what a friendship is for. If you can't talk to me, who can you talk to? And what worries me now is I try to stay neutral, but this to me seems like a red flag and it seems kind of controlling. So like...

I would just say exactly how you feel to your friend and ask her, like, who are you going to confide in if not me? Who are we allowed to talk to? And do you think you're in a healthy relationship if you're not allowed to talk to anybody? Because I haven't told anybody, apart from an entire podcast, what you've said to me thus far. No, you haven't. And I put yourself in her shoes, be like, I think I would feel very...

controlled and suffocated in a relationship where I wasn't allowed to talk to my friends. You need that release, like that outlet, even if she's just venting. Like that is what vents are for, to set pressure off so there's not an explosion. Huh, yeah, that is a tricky one. I would just reassure her that you're never gonna say anything and like you have tried to stay neutral, but this is something you actually have to flag as problematic and

And just know that if she ever decides to confide in you, you're not going to judge her for going back or staying in the relationship. And she should keep that line of communication open. I certainly think she should. Jeez. This last one troubles me. Catherine, I live above a city center restaurant and I share an alleyway with their bin store. On five separate occasions, a male staff member has come out and loudly barked like a dog. Full

Full-on growling and howling, not just a quick woof. At first, I thought he might be scaring off a rat, but now he feels like he's doing it for no reason, often late at night. Should I complain to the restaurant? I'm 23 and I don't want to overreact, but I find it disturbing. I also worry that complaining could make it worse. I have recorded one of the incidents, so I do have proof. All right, let's listen to this. This is out the window. That was a lot. Um...

Maybe it's a kink that he has. I look, you can't live your life with a grown man barking that loud. Let's hear it again. Yeah, that's strange. I think that you should complain to the restaurant in the first instance and tell them like you, they don't have to know you're 23. Use a grownup voice on the phone. If you don't feel comfortable going there in person or get an adult that you're friends with, preferably a man.

preferably a man, if I'm honest, get them to call and go, listen to this audio recording. I'm going to make a formal complaint that this disturbing howling is going on late at night. I do worry that it's going to get worse now that I've complained. So I want you to know that if it doesn't stop, I'm going straight to the police and then you're going to have them in your business and just let them know that you have a plan, like a trajectory to take this further.

Because restaurants really care about Yelp reviews, TripAdvisor, Google reviews. This is something that you could really make a lot of noise about, especially if there was a police presence about it. And you could really hurt the business of like a creepy restaurant. Not that I think that you should ever take down someone's business, but I would come out serious and make sure they adhere to your demands because like you don't need to be living next to that.

That is creepy. Like if it were fun, I'd say stick your hat out the window and be a cat. But like, no, because what I've learned about men is you never know what they're coming from. This could be a thing. It could be like a sex call into the wind. And what you don't want in your shared alleyway is ejaculate.

Thank you so much for listening to another episode of Telling Everybody Everything, season five. If you would like to see Battle Axe, there are only a few more days to do that. I'm on tour in May in Canada and all around the UK and Scotland and Ireland until the end of June. You can get tickets through the link in my Instagram or on Ticketmaster or in Canada. God knows where. I

I would go through my Instagram, which is calf bum. Please look after each other. I'll see you soon.

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We got you. Visit Verizon today. Price guarantee applies to then current base monthly rate. Additional terms and conditions apply for all offers. Hey, this is Josie Santee from the Every Girl podcast. And this episode is brought to you by Nordstrom.

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