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Hello and welcome to another episode of Telling Everybody Everything. It is nearly Easter weekend, Thursday the 17th of April, and we are having a big party. Well, it's not a big party. It was not intended to be a big party, and it has since snowballed into a Katherine Ryan event, and that's because I can't help myself.
I'll put in the iCal, let's do a little Easter egg hunt in the garden. And before you know it, we've got caterers coming in and bakers and candlestick makers and soft play hire equipment and princesses and balloon installments. And I just can't help myself because this is what I love to do. Bobby spends his life just standing at the door, shaking his head as packages come
come through the door well I'm sorry how many easter eggs do I need I don't know I have volume control issues I think we got about 300 chocolate eggs in the garage at this point and you know I planned this before I even knew whether it was going to rain and I know that it is the British way not to discuss such very tumultuous issues as the weather I think it's going to be fine
And the guest list is still pretty small. You know, I've tried to keep the children to a minimum. You have to keep them around the age of the children that we have too, because, you know, they're small and they're shy. And Fred's about to turn four, actually. Bobby was saying to me, we've got to do something special for Fred's fourth birthday in the summer. And I was like, Bobby, look around. Like, what child has not had a wedding for every year of their birthday since they've been on this planet? And I was like,
I mean, I'm having the Encanto cast at the fucking Easter egg hunt. And he's like, well, yeah, but four is a milestone. I said, four is not a milestone. He said, I think it is because that's the first birthday party that you remember. And I thought, oh, yeah, I remember a lot of my fourth birthday. But I kind of believe that's because it was the first year my parents had a camcorder, like a VHS handheld family camcorder. So there are home videos of that. Actually, I might have been three. I was three.
But I was mentally at least four. Hashtag firstborn daughter. Trigger warning. I might speak a little bit, you know, gently about pregnancy loss now. So just fast forward, I don't know, maybe five minutes if you don't want to hear that. But we have been so busy up the wall, up the wall since January. And I don't know what it is about me. I just look at the calendar. I think everything's going to be fine.
We lost another pregnancy in September at the beginning of the tour, which was fine. And then it was difficult. And then it became fine again. I'm totally fine about it now. And not to be shrewd, but like I looked in the calendar and I thought, oh, we would be due to have that baby in March. And I thought, that's fine. Like I can do the Irish dates now.
of my tour and then land. I have a few days off. I can make sure I have the baby on this specific day. And then we can do the London dates at the Palladium, like with a small baby, there won't be a lot of travel. I thought, yeah, yeah, yeah, fine. Absolutely not fine. Absolutely not. Now that we, can I imagine having a one month old baby right now? Obviously I don't want any pregnancy to end prematurely. That's not how you enter these things, but it was,
a surprise and I thought the timing's pretty bad but not that bad. Yeah it was that bad. That was terrible timing and now I feel it really would not have been sustainable for this family.
I've had three now miscarriages and some of them we did not investigate. I always find out in the scan. I never find out at home. It's always a surprise. And then I always have to have surgical intervention, meaning it does not resolve itself on its own. And some of the occasions we have had the products of conception tested to find out why we had a miscarriage is
This time in September, I absolutely thought it was my fault because I was on tour. We began the tour with Europe, so I was on a lot of flights. And there are doctors, specifically in Chinese medicine, they will tell you not to ever take a flight during the first trimester. And I think that's because of blood coagulation issues and clotting and who knows what else. But
I was taking blood thinners like I do in every pregnancy. Every pregnancy, I have autoimmune support. And I thought that would be fine for the flights. And then also because I'm celiac and you will initiate an autoimmune response if you eat gluten when you're celiac. I never want to lose a pregnancy that way. I always feel like I have these autoimmune issues and they must go.
create autoantibodies that attack healthy pregnancies. That's what I have believed in the times that I've had miscarriages. So this time, Annie and I were in Oslo, I believe, or Denmark, and I was so sick with morning sickness and so hungry that I ate a bag of sour cream and onion crisps
And I drank a chocolate milk to feel better. And crisps, I mean, you always have to watch out for a yeast extract in everything, but I feel like more and more crisps have it now. When I was young, when my little sister Carrie was first diagnosed with celiac, we felt pretty safe about most crisps. We would read them. They did not have yeast extract. They were gluten-free safe.
But now like crisps that I would have thought were safe are not. There's yeast extract and like, you know, what sits and all type of things all the time if they're not the right brand. And because this was in a different language, I can't read Norwegian. I think they also had like Danish writing. There wasn't English on it. I looked at it.
And then I realized after I'd finished them, I translated in one of the languages, it did have yeast extract. And I was like, oh my God, I ate yeast. And then I started to feel a little bit sick. And then when we landed back home, I had a scan and it was at nine weeks, five days that the baby's heart stopped beating. And I was like, it is my fault. And that's why I really spiraled. I was like, I've done this because like, imagine thinking to yourself, oh, I'm
You know, I've got this surprise pregnancy. How lovely. You know how much I love being a mom. It's getting less and less likely because I'm over 40 now. And I have killed a pregnancy by eating chips. Like that's a lot of pressure on someone.
And I just thought, I've done it now. This is my fault. And it took several weeks for the testing to come back from the surgery that I had to remove the retained products of conception, which is what that's called. And it turned out that the baby had something called Turner's syndrome, which I found really comforting because it's totally random. This is a
of an X chromosome that you can have at any age. It's not more common with older moms than younger moms. It's not that common at all, but it does happen just randomly. And some Turner syndrome mosaic symptoms
conditions can be compatible with life but more often than not it's not compatible with life and they said 15 of miscarriages are down to turner's syndrome so because it was totally random because it was a genetic condition i all of a sudden felt this euphoria that like oh my god that was not my fault even though that's stupid you know it's not my fault that i have autoimmune disease
But anyway, that's what went down. And now I sort of feel a lot of peace about it. I just feel like, okay, it was random. It had nothing to do with me. And also admin wise, could we have had a baby in March? Maybe, but sort of no.
And I know that sounds like bad to say, but religious people, they just turn things over to God. And I think it's very peaceful to go, I do not know God's timing for myself. You could play it all back and go, well, then what was the point of me having morning sickness for two months while I was on tour, making my life more difficult? Like for what lesson? But I'm sure it's just another page in the book of my resiliency.
And God message received. Like now that I look back on the months that we've had, we would have made it work, but it would have been extraordinarily difficult. I have a brand new podcast coming out that was announced today. It is called What's My Age Again? And I mean, what a segue. It's sort of relevant, but
Um, it is amazing. It's with Bauer Media and they produce Olivia Atwood's podcast. So wrong, it's right. They do amazing filming and loads of clips of the podcast. And that is really what I wanted for my next podcast because this one is a real like home cooked. Sometimes I put makeup on. Sometimes I do not. Today, for example, I could not be personally fucked.
to do so. And I thought, let's interview some guests. Let's do like a proper show. And we're working with a company called GlycanAge to give celebrities blood tests. Yes, every celebrity who has agreed to come on What's My Age Again, and it's going to be some of your faves, huge stars from the world of theater, television, film, comedy, athletics,
We've got minimum two dames already on the show, musicians.
Of all ages, we take their blood and we test it and find out, irrespective of their chronological age, how old they are on a cellular level. So what is their biological age? And I think that this is very relevant for the times when people are trying to do this biohacking. They're trying to live longer but also live better for longer. How healthy are you on the inside?
And there are a lot of scams running around as well. Like what is actually reversing your biological age and what isn't? Like how useful is an ice bath? How useful are these NAD treatments or hyperbaric oxygen chambers? Like what are people doing to stay young? Or how are people fucking it up? Spoiler alert, my biological age is old. Very badly old. I do have my own episode. I tested my own blood, of course.
So it's an interview series. I get to interview. The first episode that you can hear on April 22nd is with Joanne McNally. You can listen to that wherever you get your podcast or you can watch it. Not sure where. Somewhere. Not sure where. I should know that. It's my podcast, but I'll get back to you on it.
And Joanne McNally is so funny, so talented, but she's also a woman who publishes single Sundays. You know, she'll have a glass of white wine in hand. She has had a very colorful lifestyle. But what is her biological age? Will that be impacted by her party days?
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You can find out on What's My Age Again from April 22nd and every week thereafter. There's a team, so I actually have to do it every week. So you can actually count on me now. And I hope you love it.
Thank you so much if you came to see me on tour. I was at the London Palladium in March and again in April, and I'm going to go again in May. I also have Canadian shows in May. The Canadian promoter is very frustrated with me because I do not have access to my Facebook page. I don't know who does, but I'm trying to link
adverts for this Canadian promoter so that my Canadian audience can find out that I am in Ottawa, I'm in Montreal, and I'm in Toronto, May 15th, 16th, 17th. But I mean, I think someone at Live Nation might have had the password and now no longer works there. That's what I think. But we're going to get to the bottom of it, Canadian promoters, so you can take your foot off the gas on that. I got in trouble by Ofcom. I saw this in the news.
Where like the last time I was on Sunday brunch, which would have been, I think this summer, I was booked to go on Sunday brunch to have a regular chat about my tour, about all my projects. What you might not understand is that every single person who goes on these breakfast shows or indeed like a chat show like Jonathan Ross, we have something to sell you.
So whether that be a new album or a television product coming out, a project coming out rather, or like a product, everyone is there promoting something. We don't get paid to go on those shows. We're happy to be invited. We have a lovely chat. We try a bit of brunch. You know, it's fun, but everybody has an agenda.
And you do have to stay within the realm of what is Ofcom appropriate. Ofcom is the regulatory body that makes sure that broadcasting standards are adhered to. And there are a lot of people with a lot of time on their hands who like to make complaints. Like I remember when Holly Willoughby had just given birth, she was presenting the voice
And I received complaints about a mock the week joke that week. But the only thing that received more complaints than my joke was Holly Willoughby's breasts on The Voice. Like people, and back then, I don't even think you could make an online complaint. You had to pick up the phone and be like, hello?
Offcom, it's Tracy again. I don't think that Holly Willoughby's tits are appropriate for Saturday night family television. Guess what? Guess how a family's made Tracy? You dickhead. By giving birth. And guess what's happening after you give birth? Your boobs get engorged. Tracy, you stupid cock. It received like hundreds of complaints. Stupid. But anyway.
So I did go on Sunday brunch to promote Gusto, which is the recipe box company that I love. And this is where I find myself in a difficult position with Gusto because I am a brand ambassador for them. Yes. But separate to that, before I was a brand ambassador, I ordered Gusto in my home. We would eat it as a family four times a week.
There's so much variety and it's really good value and this is not an ad. But like that's how I feel about it. And I have tried other recipe box companies before and I'm not allowed to slag them off. That's like in my contract. Catherine, stop being yourself. Like don't tell people how disgusting and flavorless the split lentil curry from the other recipe box company was. So I'm not allowed to say stuff like that. But I'm telling you,
If you have tried other recipe box companies and you weren't impressed, you will be impressed by Gusto. Gusto is fucking delicious and this is not an ad. So like I find it difficult when I'm doing an ad, which I sort of was on Sunday brunch. I was booked to talk about this amazing initiative that Gusto had, a partnership with a cool artist called Margo and Margate, whom I love and adore.
I was talking about that a little bit. I was also talking about my tour and apparently I spoke about Gusteau a little bit too much. I waxed too lyrical and that is fair enough. But someone at home
Is it the CEO of another recipe box company with his knickers in a twist? Who knows? Someone rang up Ofcom and was like, Catherine said gusto three times instead of two. And then they got involved and there was a whole investigation. And I feel really bad because the producers of Sunday Brunch, they do brief you like, okay, because it's, you know, regulatory standards, you can't say it more times than this. We'll ask you about it and then we'll have to move on. I know that. And I just was very hungry.
I might have been pregnant at the time. Like, who knows with me? I was hungry and you asked me about Gusto and I love Gusto. So I just talked about it a little bit too much, I guess. So I don't, okay, so fine. So that was investigated and they found that despite producers' best efforts, I mentioned it too many times. Okay, sorry. But it's so, it's a story in so many articles. There's like a specific kink with the press that always really intrigues me. They're like, Catherine Ryan expresses deep regret for,
and remorse. I was like deep regret and remorse. Like, look, I made a mistake because I was hungry, but I never expressed like, quote, deep regret. Are you insane? I would be deeply regretful maybe if I was driving under the influence or forgot one of my kids in a pub or left the gas on and set the house on fire. But I'm not like deeply remorseful
Because I went on a light entertainment breakfast television show and said Gusto three times instead of two. I'm sorry. Like, I'm a bit sorry. Never complain, never explain is the rule. So I find it difficult to just leave that alone. I keep having to chime in and be like, I'm not sorry. I'm a bit sorry. But I stand by my love of Gusto.
I am absolutely sure that you will have seen the little lady's space trip, Space Up Your Life. It was the maiden voyage of Blue Origin's Celebrity Space Flight, also filled with maidens. And it had launched, it kissed the sky, and landed with its all-star crew.
and that is the space girls, that's what we're going to call them because they are astronaut wannabes and they landed largely intact. A crowd including Kris Jenner, Khloe Kardashian and a particularly stressed out Oprah were all on hand to watch the flight which lasted 11 minutes and passed the Kármán line, which at 62 miles above sea level or 30 times higher than that of a commercial plane is considered to be the boundary between Earth's atmosphere and outer space.
The flight's manifest included Oprah's life partner Gail King, NASA rocket scientist Alicia Boe, film producer Carrie-Anne Flynn, bioastronautics research scientist and civil rights activist Amanda Nugent, pop poseur Katy Perry, and the next Mrs. Jeff Bezos, Lauren Sanchez, who definitely tested the wearability of Sephora's spring line in outer space. Me-stang was beat for the gods.
The women had a range of reasons for wanting to make the trek to the brink of outer space. Nugent, an actual astronaut, mentioned that she planned to execute an experiment with menstrual blood and fluid absorption, noting that women were initially not allowed to go into space because of the lack of tests done and how it may affect fertility. Where Katy Perry, when asked why, simply said, "...making space for future women."
Worth noting that whilst in orbit, Katie also revealed her upcoming tour setlist while brandishing a daisy because flowers are, to her, God's smile. And upon descent, started singing, what a wonderful world, instead of the infinitely more suitable E.T. from her actual catalog.
But Katy Perry is a twit, and I digress. Of course, the real purpose of all this was to act as an advert for Blue Origin, who hopes to start recreational space travel very soon, testing that this flying to space could come down in price to equal an around-the-world cruise, so $60,000 per person.
I mean, a while ago on this podcast, we did discuss Olivia Rodrigo's interview quote, where if a guy says he wants to go to space, that is a red flag and is the same true for women. A lot of people really had some feelings about this space trip. They are navigating an economic crisis. I think that these women went up and they thought that they'd be heroes just for like being a woman doing something. But instead, they're
It's been widely criticized. People are like, we want health care. We don't want to watch you spend billions on space travel. And like, we also don't appreciate you being like, hashtag, like, girl power, when you haven't done anything. Like, you are as much part of the crew as my family and I were on our British Airways flight to Magaluf, quoted The Guardian. You just like, did, you sat somewhere for 11 minutes. I know that there are women on board who are legit astronauts, but
But I mean, Katy Perry and Gayle King? Gayle King was sent up by Oprah, presumably just to report back on what it felt like to be weightless for 11 minutes. And Katy Perry's like, I'm filled with love. You don't realize how much love you have inside you until you go to space. What? Imagine saying I do to Russell Brand, not being the most embarrassing words that you've ever uttered in your life.
It's like, you know what, though? I've come full circle with it. And I know loads of people like this is not feminism. Do you know what I think is feminism? Is watching women be wasteful and stupid and just do something dumb and make the same mistakes that so many billionaires make every day and be completely tone deaf and be completely gauche.
Not every single thing that a woman does has to be for a purpose, has to represent all women, has to be the right thing. I actually enjoy watching women fuck up now and be selfish. That's true feminism. Do you know how many flights they've sent up? Who did they send? William Shatner and a bunch of other people. Six other flights full of men went up, and none of them received this much press attention. I know that there were non-white women on board, but this still managed to be the whitest
#GirlsTrip. Like, I'm surprised they didn't take Rosé.
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whose infamous teeth were the target of a sketch over the weekend on Saturday Night Live. So they parodied the White Lotus. They entitled this sketch The White POTUS about American President Donald Trump and his cabinet of horror clowns.
Guest host and former Madman man John Hamm played health secretary and brain worm host Robert Kennedy Jr. When RFK makes a remark about taking fluoride out of the water, a female cast member meant to be Amy's character Chelsea wearing a set of Austin Powers teeth says, fluoride, what's that? In an arguably low-hanging fruit joke about her signature dentition.
Amy LeWood took to her Instagram, where else, to voice her displeasure. She said,
Later in the day, she said she'd received thousands of messages from people agreeing with her. However, someone close to her seemed to disagree. Her on-screen White Lotus love interest, Walter Goggins, commenting on the official SNL Instagram's sharing of the clip, ha ha ha ha ha, amazing.
Oh, hell no, because this has poured a new canister of petrol on the rumors that the two do not get along after Insta sleuths noticed the duo unfollowed each other on Instagram and fellow cast member Jason Isaac spilled in an interview about arguments occurring on set. Wood and Goggins, who played love interests who came to a tragic demise in season three of The White Lotus, have yet to address headlines about their alleged feud. So a few things here. If your name is Walton Goggins...
That sets you up to be a bit of a weird guy. Then you decide to go and be an actor. And then to me, that says even more of a weird guy. I think I saw him in an interview talking about his children and he was just saying they never, ever had arguments. And he seems like quite a good dad in the clip. But he had a 10-year-old son who was going to bed.
And he had done something wrong that day or he'd been misbehaving or disrespecting his parents. And Walton Goggins said to the son, like, it is up to you. You need to make the best choice. You can go down two roads and the consequences of one road are going to be these and the consequences of the other road are going to be this. And you need to make an empowered choice. And the boy was like, I know what choice I'm going to make, dad. And then Walton was like, no, sleep on it, son. This is an important decision. And in the morning, you tell me what kind of man you want to be. And it was...
It was all very, you know, wild, wild west. I liked it. You know, it seemed very mindful, but I could see also how as an actress, you might get into an argument with someone like that. It just seems a little bit too, well, I just am the best dad and this is what I said and I'm just a cool guy. Also, I mean, who knows what happened? It's not our business, but I think that actors, especially good actors, are
When you're meant to work as a two-hander, you're opposite each other in such an intimate relationship on set. Like you would have your own ideas about how the character should be and your interactions with the other character. And Walton Goggins maybe seems like someone to me who would be so married to his vision that maybe it would be a challenge creatively to let someone else in, you know?
He's going to be like, well, Amy Lewood, you can go down two roads and I hope you make the right choice. But this is the road I'm going down. You know, like just a bit too actory for me, maybe. But that's why I'm not an actress all the time. I love Amy Lewood. I think she is not only shockingly beautiful, stunning.
But she's so talented and she's very funny and she's very smart and very progressive. And I love her Instagram and I love all of her work. And I also really appreciate that when a woman takes a chance like that, puts her head above the parapet and goes, do you know what? I don't think this is funny. She really risks being...
diminished for that and brushed off and be like, oh, you just don't have a sense of humor, babe. Or like, oh, you're so sensitive about how you look. You know, you can be ridiculed just for speaking out and you can actually make things a lot worse. But her instinct was right because on this occasion, people were like, yeah, what are they talking about? Fluoride. She goes, I don't have bad teeth. I don't have like unhealthy teeth. I have a gap between my teeth and that's fair. And also Americans like, oh,
And obviously not all Americans and some British people can be just as bad. But Bobby and I were watching Kill Tony on Netflix. And this is a format that has gone on for 12 years. It's a really successful podcast. It's also a live show conceived by Tony Hinchcliffe, a comedian who's recently had a little bit of controversy because of how he spoke at Donald Trump's inauguration, I think it was, or maybe one of his rallies. He did some...
Some jokes that could be considered xenophobic. I'm not going to get too much into that. But what I briefly know about Tony Hinchcliffe and have met him a few times and worked with him, I think he's very funny. I think he's very talented. And looking at the format of Kill Tony, you have to take your hat off to him. It is a very successful early podcast format that
And it's where he and a panel of hashtag lads, they invite newer comedians to do a minute of stand-up. And sometimes that minute sinks and sometimes it swims. And then they have a panel discussion with the act afterwards. And a lot of times the real comedy comes from that panel discussion.
Uh, for me watching it, it really jumped out to me how laddy it was. And I appreciate that these guys are entitled to have a space that is not diverse. Like they can be like, this is our show and these are our friends and this is who we're inviting. And this has been a long point of contention, especially at the comedy store. And now, uh,
in Austin, Texas, where Joe Rogan and all his friends and peers and colleagues, his contemporaries, have moved, is these guys were like, we like to hang out with each other and you can't just diversify it because we're going to stop coming. Like I've heard Bert Kreutzer before say, like, we go down to the Comedy Store. This was years ago. He's like, because Joe Rogan is going to be there and we're going to see all our friends. And if you ruin that for us, we're going to stop going and it won't be as successful. Right.
And that's one way of looking at, you know, the white male gatekeeping of these spaces. And you can have whatever opinions you want to have about that. But I just feel like I don't mind it. If you want to put a show on Netflix and have like these guys and their friends, I made it nearly to the end of the episode and there was one woman on. And I mean, oh God, in an example of pedestal feminism, like this one woman was pretty good. And instead of just being good, uh,
They were like, you've done so well that I'd like you to come back Thursday and go on the main show. And actually, I'd like you to open and do a minute at Madison Square Gardens. And she was like, what? Wow. Like she'd only been going 18 months. She had probably 15 men come before her on the show. And she's the one that gets these opportunities. And they made a big deal of her being like the only female comedian ever.
And the reason she was the only female comedian is because not many women put their names in the hat to be chosen on that night, apparently. So anyway, it is a very fraternity environment and it is a good format. But these Americans, like they laugh at each other so much. And I remember...
This one episode of Kill Tony, not on Netflix, but as a podcast. And it went pretty viral because there was a British guy in the crowd. And they're like, where are you from? He's like, England. And they're like, oh, yeah, yeah, England. I'm from England. What's your name? Quincy. Oh, you're a gangster. You're a black guy from England on the mean streets of London, are you? And Quincy's like, yeah. And they're like, what do you do then, Quincy? And he's like, I'm a producer. And they're like, oh, I'm talking about...
Rap in London, oh, a cheerio. Like it was so embarrassing actually just to watch an American's like complete ignorance about the rest of the world. And then they go, oh, let's play a track from your Spotify. And they played it and it was actually amazing. It was like the beat dropped and they were all like, huh? Like they couldn't believe that there was any grime that comes out of England because of their preconceived notions about the rest of the world. So basically, there's a long way of me saying, Amy Lou Wood, I get it.
They did this butchered Mancunian accent. They played on the old tropes about British teeth. And that does feel lazy. You know what I mean? And she has a sense of humor about herself, but this, she was like, ugh, it's just too American. Okay, we've got one super spicy letter this week. Just the one.
Catherine, I had an affair with a school teacher when I just left school at 18. I was besotted for as long as he taught me from when I was 16. He was the cool, funny teacher that everyone half fancied. It had been building quietly for years and we eventually drunkenly kissed on a school trip. We went on to have an intense relationship for 18 months. He was 10 years older and lived with his long-term girlfriend.
I was totally in love and obsessed with him. He felt the same, but was clear he also loved his girlfriend. It was my first relationship and sexual experience. He was all I thought and cared about. My emotions yo-yoed from crazy highs when infrequently with him to dramatic lows when not. So I spent a lot of time crying and lying to everyone I knew."
I'm now in my early 30s and this still really affects me. I still have to lie annoyingly often to protect him as he's still with his girlfriend and now in a prestigious teaching position. It's a huge barrier between me and my friends and the secret still sits inside me like a black lump. My questions. Do I tell my friends and finally be honest but accept the secret will get out? I'll be known as, quote, that girl. And also his relationship and career will be damaged and I just don't want to hurt anyone.
But why do I have to carry this burden and not him? I feel like it consumes me still. Is there anyone else out there that has been in this situation and feels like this? It's always ignored by schools if anyone finds out, and there's very little research or support, even though we know it happens all the time. Sorry if this is too long, but there's a lot more if you're interested. P.S. He was 30 when I was 17, 18. Well, look, my first...
My first point of focus is when you say, I will be known as that girl. I think that we are past the days of Monica Lewinsky when this vulnerable young woman in an intern position of opportunity and education was preyed upon by the most powerful man in America,
At the time, the president of the United States, like we failed at that time to see such a clear abuse of power that we were like this little whore, let him put a cigar insider in the Oval Office. Like what? It's amazing how far we've come. And so being in your 30s now, I think we're still shaking off the hangover of some of those cultural blind spots where you still think, oh, I will be known as like,
the mistress. But I think that you would be refreshed and pleasantly surprised to find that I don't think people would look on you that way at all. Knowing what we know now, they'd go, hang on. He was your teacher. He was an adult man. And you guys started this flirtation when you were just age of consent. It is, um, it's wrong. And yeah, he could lose his teaching license. And what you don't know is if he's still doing this with students today. Yeah.
What you also don't know, though, is whether you are the only one carrying this burden. Like maybe for him, even though he was wrong in doing so, maybe he was in love with you and maybe he felt very torn and was like, oh my God, like, ugh, I'm not supposed to be in love with this student. I have a girlfriend. I'm cheating on my girlfriend, but also I'm having a really inappropriate relationship. Maybe he still is haunted by that. I think...
He's still in the wrong. You know, I'm not trying to make excuses for him, but you just don't know what he's feeling. I'm not sure if you would get closure just from speaking to him today. Probably not. It's not worth asking a question if the answer doesn't matter or is going to be a lie. He could just lie anyway.
Sometimes when a story like this comes out, other people do come forward. It emboldens them to be like, hang on, I was his student and he did this to me too. I was his student. And then a pattern is established. Like, I don't think you would have to feel badly for telling the truth. It's not you who would be removing his teaching license and ruining his career. It is he, an adult man who chose to have sex with a student. The rules about that you did not create. Right?
He chose to break the rules and to prey upon a child. So I mean, you certainly shouldn't have to carry this burden your entire life to protect people, to protect his girlfriend, to protect him, to protect your reputation, to protect his career. I think you absolutely should be in therapy or speaking to a professional, or maybe there will be a listener who can advise a specific governing body who
has more insight into a situation like this. But you will make yourself sick if you carry it around. I wonder if you even have trusted friends. Like I have told my friends every single thing in my life. And with the right friends, a secret does stay a secret and it doesn't get out. You know, you shouldn't be suffering anyway. So like if you decide to tell everybody that
It can put you in a vulnerable position if you don't have proof. You know, he might deny it and then it's stressful and messy for you and you could be re-traumatized by that. Those are things to consider. But I would not let the consequences for him, whatever those may be, stand in the way of your healing journey toward what happened to you.
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