Glauc Talk: Honoring the Legacy of First Descents Founder Ryan O’Donoghue
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Welcome everybody to Knock Knock High with the Glockenfleckens. Over here we have Lady Glockenflecken, also known as Kristen Flannery. And you have Dr. Glockenflecken, also known as Will Flannery. Thank you for joining us on this episode of Glock Talk. Should we get the socks done out of the way? Just get it done. Out of the way? What do you mean? This is the best part. This is the best part. So just real quick. We got some new merch. We have new merchandise. So if you're on YouTube watching, we have their unicorn socks. The rainbows and the best part.

At the top, it says adults are terrible. So they are. That's which is a quote from one of the pediatrician and one of one of my videos. So we got some other merch. They're pediatrician inspired socks. And we also have some ortho.

Some ortho stickers. Sticker pack. One of my favorite gags that I ever wrote was the admissions to medicine punch card. Yeah. So we made one. Turn it into a sticker. It's already got the punches in there. So, you know. Yeah. I guess you could try to cash it in. See what happens. And then other stickers of ortho bro. What's that say? What up, bro? What up, bro? And then we have a kettlebell too. So anyway.

Check them out. They're on our website, Glock and Plugin.com. Slash merch. Slash merch. I do like these. The socks feel very soft and comfortable. And they're just cute and colorful and cheerful. Yeah. Love them. Yeah. And the adults are terrible is hidden at the top if you don't want your patients, if you're a pediatrician, you don't want the kids' parents to see that you think adults are terrible. Right. And they're kind of a crew sock. So it's nice. You know, it's up on your leg. Are adults terrible? Some of them.

I think generally. I don't know. This is getting existential, really. On a scale from like one to ten, one being adults are amazing, ten being adults are terrible. Where would you put adults? Maybe right in the middle. Yeah. Sometimes great, sometimes awful. Averages out to a five. I think that's fair. I think that's fair. All right. So here's what we're going to do today.

First of all, some updates from the family, from the Glockenflecken household. Also, I have some healthcare news, and then we're going to play a game. Okay. I have a game for you. Okay. And I want you to take it seriously. Okay. All right? Take it very seriously. First, though, we have a newborn. Yeah. Well, five. Five of them. We have five.

We have a dog that gave birth to puppies. Yeah. And we didn't realize she was pregnant until... Yes. Like, a week ago? It was a whoopsie-do. Whoopsie-do. But puppies are something that your mom has dealt with in the past, so she knows exactly what to do. Oh, yeah. And the puppies are healthy and happy, and they're Australian Shepherd puppies. And they are little potatoes. They're so cute. They just, like...

They look like a Yukon Gold if it was black and white. More of a russet. Is it a russet? They're not as big as a russet, though. Elongated. I think they are. They're about the size of a russet potato. About the same size. Yeah, I'd say so. I'll have to go out and take a picture and post it on our Patreon so people can see. They're very cute. What type of potato these little potatoes are. Yeah. But yeah, they are very cute. Incredibly small. Just...

literally so tiny just you know hold it in your hand and they make these little grunts and squeaks you know like a real human newborn does also it's very cute super cute and we will be finding warm loving homes for them for all of them we will be finding homes once they're old enough absolutely I think they they keep them your mom likes to keep the puppies with

The mom, yeah. For a couple months, I think. Oh, yeah, I don't know. Whatever the right amount is, that's what she does. She knows all the stuff. I don't know. But the kids are very excited, and the other dogs are kind of going crazy. Yeah. And very protective over her little puppies. She is, yes. She's a good mama. She pays close attention to them, and she will bite you if you get in there, and she doesn't want you there. Right. We had like a...

A person that was unfamiliar with her. One of our friends. One of our friends came over and the mama dog knew immediately that this was not someone she knew and was giving her the business. Giving her the side eye, barking at her. She did like a snap like she bit. Yeah. Yeah. So anyway, that's very, which you can understand. See, it's the mama instincts. Oh yeah, I got them. Yeah. How many people did you bite whenever they came over? Just a few.

Yeah. But they deserved it. Whatever we had. Our kids, a few little snarls, a little bit of snarling. No, thankfully I didn't have to fend anyone off. Babies grunt, human babies grunt too. I know. Yeah, it's the same. It's very similar, really. They're not that different. They don't cry as much. These ones have tails. It's true. They do have tails.

And they're multicolored. So very exciting times. Yeah. All right. So technically, how many dogs do we have right now on our property here? We have five, 10, 10, 10 dogs. 11. 11? No. 10.

Well, as if Alyssa's any better than... My mom had five dogs already. Yeah. One of those dogs had five dogs. Oh, gosh. And then we have a dog. And then Milo. Yeah. I love it. Okay. So anyway, that's what we're dealing with. And don't forget the 3.5 cats. And we have a half cat? Well, there's a stray that has adopted us. That's right. And we have decided if this cat is going to be around now that we have cats...

Then it will need to be, you know, wormed and vaccinated. Now, the good news to everybody listening or all pet lovers is they have plenty of space. They've got lots of space to run around and have fun and be free. Yeah. And they're good little mouse hunters, which I appreciate. Yes. Yeah. That's because we have a barn. There's a barn. And so, you know, barn cats are a good thing. Yeah. I've learned. How many barn cats have you had in your life?

Uh, well, this is my first proper barn. Yeah. Okay. Yeah. But I did always just live out in the country. And so you guys adopted so many pets. Oh my gosh. They'd come in and you're into your life for a year at a time. And then you run over. It happens. Um, yeah, I have some pretty cats, cows, pet stories. Actually, what was the name? What was the name of the cow? Baby.

Yeah, you had a pet cow named Baby. Yeah, we kept her in the front yard. I say we. This is all my mother. So your parents, Kirsten's parents, have been in the dairy industry for a long time. So they grew up on farms. They started out as ranchers. Right. Well, my mom did. Grew up on a farm. And they started out as ranchers when they were first married. And then...

My dad went to college for an agribusiness degree and they ended up in the dairy industry for a long time. And they just have always liked animals and agriculture and things like that. I don't know how I came out of them. And the animals like them because they just show up. Yeah. And then all of a sudden we own them. Uh-huh. So anyway.

It's like there's some sort of siren song that my mother puts out and it just attracts. Do we know how to turn that off? I haven't figured it out yet. Can you find the switch, please? I've been looking for 40 years. It's like the meme is just too many slices of the pizza. Too many. That's too many slices. Too many dogs. Enough. All right. Well, healthcare news. Okay. We have some...

There's some depressing news. Yeah. All right. This is sad news just because this is an organization I really care about. So this is First Descents. Those of you who are, I'm sure most of you are probably aware of my history with testicular cancer. And after my second bout...

Uh, Kristen was being the thoughtful, wonderful wife that she is, um, decided that I needed some help. I needed to try to find other people. I know you wouldn't talk to anybody. I was out. So yeah, take us through the thought process of finding about, out about this company, this organization. Well, I was actually in the waiting room during your surgery. My second orchiectomy. Mm-hmm.

And it was taking longer than expected. And, you know, they'd had a minor complication. It all turned out fine. But I was in there for a long time. By the way, can I, real quick, can I just, I ended that complication. Yeah. Can I tell you my experience with being told about that? Okay. So I'm in post-op and there was a resident, it was a teaching hospital at Dartmouth. Oh, no, this was Iowa. This was Iowa, yeah. So there was a teaching hospital and they both are, I guess.

The young, you know, second year resident or whatever that was working on me came in after the surgery and says, I need to tell you something that happened. And I'm like, what? Did they accidentally cut off the wrong body part? Like what on earth happened? And he's like, there's a nerve. You're going to have some numbness on your inner thigh. That was it. They cut a nerve, I think. Yeah. And I was like, that. They nicked it.

That's it? Right. Oh, thank God. I thought, like, I don't know. That's not like they could cut the wrong ball off because I only had one at that point. You had given your first one to Dartmouth. That's why you got confused there. It's like, what on earth? So it's kind of just like my stomach dropped. He was like, that was it. Like, well, numbness on the inner thigh? I can handle that. Did that ever resolve? I still have it. I still have it. Yeah. Because that was one of the questions. Does it might go away? Yeah.

Yeah. You know, over time. I've got numbness there. I've got numbness where I had ACL surgeries. I also have a patch of numbness on my lower leg. So it's weird. Nerves are strange. They are. So anyway, I could get a tattoo on that spot in my inner thigh. Oh. And I wouldn't even feel it. You wouldn't even feel it. That's a good idea. Yeah.

I might feel it if it goes deeper, though. Right, I don't know how far that nerve innervates. Tattoos are below, they're in the lowest level, aren't they? Yeah, in the dermis. I think it's in the dermis. But it's also a very difficult place for a tattoo artist to get to, would be my inner thigh. Well, they can just prop you up in certain ways. Yeah.

Like I'm at the urology office. What if you got a tattoo of your missing testicles on your inner thigh? No? You don't like that idea? Like, what's the point? Just so you don't have to miss them. I don't miss them. They betrayed me. I don't miss them. Anyway, get back to how you find out about first descents.

Yeah, so I was in the waiting room, and I knew you were having a hard time. I mean, anytime you get a cancer diagnosis, that is a hard time. This one was a particularly hard time because it was just three years after the first one. We were young, and then we were talking about all sorts of ramifications, you know, infertility and hormones replacement therapy and all sorts of stuff. And so I knew it was going to be hard, but I also know you well enough to know that you will not –

say a word to anyone about any feeling you might have. So I was looking for just ways to find some support for you that did not involve, you know, group therapy or something. And so I found

first descents just through Google searching. Yeah. And I was like, oh, this is perfect because it was an organization that takes young adult cancer patients and survivors, as long as you have medical clearance, takes you on outdoor adventures. Because the idea is when you're a young adult with cancer, it does, it feels like your body betrayed you and it, you know, you don't know how much you can trust your body anymore. And you feel like you've lost this, you know,

I don't know, sense of health, sense of being able to do things. And so they take them on outdoor adventures to regain some confidence in your body again. And then also you are surrounded by other cancer patients and survivors. And so just sort of naturally you'll talk about things, but there's no like forced talking or therapy or anything like that. Um,

And so I know you like outdoor adventures and I know that you wouldn't want to talk. So I was like, this is it. Yeah. And, uh,

Since then, I've done numerous fundraisers for First Ascents. I know we've raised probably close to $150,000 over the years just through social media. Yeah. And it's a great organization because a lot of attention and cancer is given to kids and older adults. And there's just this big group right in the middle that's just...

kind of feels left out and you feel very isolated. Well, there's just not a, there aren't resources. Yeah. And so this is one of the few organizations that really focuses on that age group, you know, 18 to 40 basically. And so it was great. I've met wonderful people. I've done two different trips with them and met a lot of, and so the reason we're talking about First Descents is because the CEO died,

First Descents. Ryan O'Donohue. You can see it. The information's out there if you want to read up on it. But a wonderful guy. He's only 46. Only 46. Very sad. And the news is he took his own life. And a long history of mental health issues, which is not a secret. I'm not telling you anything that

that's not already out there on the internet right now um the in fact the the first to sense company they're the ones that put this information out there and and it's i think you know it's it's incredibly sad obviously and we feel for their family his family and and the whole first to sense community because uh the people that work at first sense they're they're really they're mission oriented you know they're they're they're wanting to help this group of of young people and um

And so I have a tremendous amount of appreciation for everybody at First Descents. I've been able to meet some of them over the years and just a fantastic group of people. And, you know, mental health struggles are something that that community is

A lot of people in that community deal with, you know, and so. I mean, it's really core to their mission. It's about helping you get through the mental health piece of cancer. Yeah. So I was very sad. And, you know, people have been telling stories on on the first since, you know, Facebook page. And it's it's just a great quality story.

organization full of wonderful people that does really good work i am as kristen mentioned i i don't talk to people about my feelings very often like it's it's something i'm not good at um that doing a trip with this organization it was the first time i really felt uh i could open up and and um

And talk to people that had similar experiences that were similar to mine. And it didn't feel forced. Yeah. It was important. Right. I was tricked into talking about my feelings. I know. See, I had to do something. I did a kayaking trip in Oregon. That was the first one. And then a group of us went over to Ireland to do lots of hiking and kayaking.

a few years back. It was pre-pandemic, like 2019, one of the last things that I did before the pandemic. And over the years, some people I've been on trips with have died. And it's...

but that support network is always there for these people. Right. Uh, and so, uh, yep. We feel for everybody at the first sense community. Maybe we can put a link to, um, how you can. Yeah, you can donate to our fundraiser on the. Absolutely. Yeah, we can, we can certainly share that. Just donating anything to the first sense, um, uh, organization. Yeah. To provide those, those life-saving outdoor experiences, um, uh, is, uh, would be a great gift.

And so, yeah, let's take a break. We'll come right back. So, Will. Yeah. You're always teaching me things about Demodex mites, little friends there. Let's switch things up a bit. Okay. How about I ask you a couple questions to see how much you really know? Go for it. Okay. Let's do it. What are the only two main species of Demodex mites found in humans? Oh.

Type 1 and type 2? Hmm, got you on that one. Demodex follicularum, which are found in the eyelash follicles, and demodex brevis, which are found in the meibomian glands. Impressive. All right, next question. Why do people with demodex blepharitis often feel itchy eyelids first thing in the morning? I know this because I use it to gross you out. Demodex mites avoid light and they come out mostly at night to mate.

and move between your eyelash follicles. So many people will wake up with that itchy, irritated feeling along their eyelids. So gross. I'm surprised you even brought that up. I know. I know. I'm just trying to get used to these mites since demodex blepharitis is such a common disease and we keep talking about it. Well, that's a big step. And we know there's a prescription eye drop available to treat demodex blepharitis. Yes. A treatment makes me feel much more comfortable about this topic.

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So more positive news is that, you know, health care is getting investigated for another thing. Oh, that is positive. It's like, well, I mean, it's not positive that they did the thing, you know, but this time at least they're being investigated. This time it's Medicare fraud. Uh huh.

Have we not already talked about this? Is it a new one? You know, it's hard to keep track. Yeah. Uh, and I don't know what we've talked about separately. Yeah. I don't know. We don't need to go into the details. It's just like, that was another, another bit of healthcare news for you. Uh, it's just, you know, it's a nice little, nice little thing. I made a video, um, about it, a skit with Jimothy recently. And, um,

A lot of people are getting so creative on the comment section. I got a lot of comments on TikTok about Mario Kart. Because of Luigi. Yeah. At first, because I have a 40-year-old brain now with a 39-and-a-half-year-old brain. So I didn't, like, my synapses weren't firing quite right. And I was like, what the hell are people talking about? Like, why is... I was like, oh, oh, yes. Yes. Luigi. Mm-hmm.

So anyway, that's happening. Yeah, the saga continues. And you know, one of the interesting things is that, this irritates me, is that I always get some comments that are like, doesn't this guy hate Trump? Aren't you going to give Trump credit for investigating UnitedHealthcare? That kind of thing. Right. And it's irritating. It's like this kind of like, oh, you know, you got to be consistent. Like, I am consistent because...

I don't, one thing that doesn't matter with regard to who the president is, and no, like I disagree with Trump on just about everything he does. But my, I have always, this has been something that I have, I have always been consistent with. I will always support any kind of legislation or change to healthcare system that is advantageous to patients and physicians. Right.

Like that, I don't care who's president. Right. I don't care which president it is that tries to like rein in PBMs and disrupt vertical integration and reforms prior authors. It doesn't, I don't give a shit. Right. Like it just needs to happen. I am always on the side of patients, what improves patient care and what improves the lives of physicians. And so that's kind of where I am at.

Yeah. It'll be interesting to see how that investigation shakes out. Um, more let's, what else can we investigate United healthcare about? Let's let's just, I'm sure there's so many things. There's class action lawsuits going on. There's, it's, it's fantastic. Um, so yeah, let's, let's, let's keep up, keep it up. All right. I have a game. Okay.

You ready? Maybe. So, you know, we've talked about OnlyFans with regard to my characters. We addressed that last week. I thought what we could do is play a game called Swipe Right or Left. Oh, oh no. I always get these confused because we were pre-dating apps. Swipe Right means you accept. Like you want to, you find that person interesting and attractive and you want to go on a date with them.

That's what swiping right is. Okay. Swiping left is you're done with that. Okay. Trash. It's trash. You're trashing. Delete. Yeah, delete. Out of my life forever. Swipe right, good. Swipe left, bad.

Got it? Okay. I think it'd be better if I ask you these questions. Why? Because. I'm not going to date myself. It's your character. I want you to put yourself in the mindset of someone who's single. It's been a while. Yeah. All right.

You know these characters. You know all of them. So if you're on a dating app, we'll say Tinder since we're millennials. Is that still a thing? I don't know if it's still a thing. What's the Hinge? One of the ones now? I don't know. There's the only ones I hear being mentioned on social media. I don't even know what that means. Anyway, so and one of my character, I'm going to give you the name of the character. Their profile comes up. Are you swiping right?

Are you swiping left? Okay. Ready? I'm ready. All right. Let's start off with a bang. Ortho. Right. That's not a secret. I like Ortho. Big fan of Ortho. Yeah. Because he's actually very smart and kind. What if on his profile he has...

photos of himself flexing at the gym. That would be a turnoff. I don't, it would, it might make, if all you're doing is swiping based on first impression, that might end up making me swipe left. That's kind of what the deal is with these dating apps, right? I mean, you have a little bit more in-depth knowledge about who these people are, but it really, you know, Well, then you have to tell me what the profile picture looks like, because that's the only way I would. What if Ortho was just like giving a nice smile, but he's holding a femur?

Okay. I've got questions, but you're all right with that. I'm curious. Okay. All right. Inside your curiosity, but yeah. All right. All right. How about, um, uh, the pediatrician? Probably right. Yeah. Okay. Seems like a nice, nice person. Emergency medicine. I mean, I assume that emergency medicine would be talking all about outdoor adventuring and

That's probably like first date. So first date is going to be windsurfing. Yeah. Like that's no. Left. I'm an inside kid. I don't think we'd get along. All right. All right. So fair. So no emergency medicine. What if he lets you wear his helmet? No, I don't care about that. Not interested? Okay. Let's see. How about radiology? Is it night owl?

Likes to, you know, watch movies with the lights off. Kind of grumpy during the day. Not a morning person. I don't know. I feel like there wouldn't be a lot on the profile. Like, it's just very aloof. This guy, he's wearing sunglasses. Yeah. Probably past then, because it's like, how do I get to know you? Honestly, I think you need someone who's a morning person.

Because I'm not. Yeah. You know what? I used to be. That's yet another thing that has changed over time. I know. What was the other thing we were talking about that we used to be all punctual? You said you used to be punctual. I had a great memory. I very much disagree with. There's no way you've ever been. You didn't know me when I was punctual.

What did I just say? Functional. Functional? Functional. Functional. All right. So you... Keep them tracking. You can ask my mother. We'll talk about it later. You used to be punctual. Yeah. You used to be... You used to have a good memory. Yeah. And you used to be a morning person. That is the hardest to believe. There's no way. Well, you used to have straight hair. I mean, things change. That's physiologic. I can't help that. Some of that stuff is probably physiologic. So you're telling me when you were like, what, a teenager? Yeah.

What? You used to, like, just get up, no problem, first thing in the morning? No, it was before teenagehood. Okay. Yeah, and then, you know, puberty hits. Well, that doesn't count. Why? That...

I can remember. All kids are mourning. Kids are always... I don't think that's true. That is universally the case. I'm not talking about when I was like four. No, I know. Like all the way up until like 12. Pre-pubescent. Pre-pubescent kids. Like that's like the running... No, but it's different. Okay? Like we have a kid like this. And you can see the difference between our two kids. I would get very...

I just wanted to go to bed at night. Like once it passed a certain time that was pretty early, I would beg to be put to bed if I was still awake. Okay. And then first thing in the morning, I would wake up and I would feel great and I would have all sorts of energy. Okay. Now it's kind of the opposite. I can stay up all night and it's really hard to get out of bed. Hmm.

Okay. I kind of see it. But for most of your life, you've been... For my adult life, yeah. Yeah. Okay. All right. All right. So no on radiology. How about pathology? So let me tell you what the profile is. Wearing a pathology slide as a t-shirt, a nice little H&E stain. Not that you have to know what that is. Holding Tabitha.

Okay. So I'm seeing that this person is a scientist. So that's cool. They're scientists. I'm a nerd. In their profile, they refer to their microscope as a person. They anthropomorphize the microscope in the profile. I would probably, here's what I think about pathology. Like I would love to show you or I would love to have Tabitha show you what she can do. Okay. This is what I would think.

At first I would think, okay, this is just, this is like a quirky, but you know, but he looks friendly. Big old smile. Got clearly like science. I like science. Yeah. So I would probably swipe right.

Only to find out later, like maybe date three or something, that he's a psychopath. Oh, I think date one. You open the passenger. Oh, maybe so. You open the passenger side door and Tabitha is strapped in. Yeah, if he starts talking to Tabitha, like if Tabitha comes along for the date. So that's a. And he like spoon feeds her. Tabitha obviously doesn't have a mouth. Wipes her little lenses. Yeah.

All right. So a swipe right, but mistake. Yes. No second date. Right. Okay. Also slightly concerned about being murdered. Might need to change my number. Because it's a pathologist. No, just that personality. Just the inside of your anatomy. Seems like a weirdo. Okay. All right. Fair. How about Jimothy? Sure. Swipe right.

Good, because I think Jimothy is most like me. They're all you. Some of them are less like me. Which character is the least like me as a person? Probably either Ortho or Pediatrician. Ortho, not because we're both very strong physically. Sure. Just the aloof personality. Those people are warm and friendly and happy a lot. Yes.

All right. I'm so sorry I asked. How about like the nephrologist? You know, I don't know much about the nephrologist. It's been a long time. All I know is that there's that salt belt. That'd be probably a turnoff. So I'd have to go left. Okay. We'll go left there. But I like he doesn't have a personality. The surgeon? Oh, left. Yeah. You're not the. No. No. How about anesthesia? Likes playing games on his phone. Yeah. Yeah.

Has a job where, you know, 99% boredom, 1% sheer panic challenge. Mm-hmm. Could save your life in any kind of situation. Right. And he's got to be very smart. Mm-hmm. So that's a plus. I guess I would swipe right. Okay. We'll see how it goes. Likes to sit down. Yeah. So less of a, you know, emergency medicine style. Might be more of an indoor kid like myself. It's possible. Yeah. All right. Family medicine. Oh.

I just want to mother family medicine. Not a lot of romantic kind of feeling. No, I just want to tell him he'll be okay. Give him a cup of hot cocoa. Poor family medicine. I know. Can't even find love. Jeez. I just think that he's got other things that he's focusing on right now. Don't put words in family medicine's mouth. That's what I would. I mean, he just seems like he's got a lot going on. He's pretty busy. He may not have room for something new at this moment. Okay, that's fair.

Bartholomew Banks. Oh, pass. Swipe left. I mean, what if he's got like a Ferrari? I don't care. Or a private jet. I drive a Chrysler Pacifica. Like, I don't care.

You did. You started dating me at that time. I was driving. Was I already driving the toaster? No, it was your little truck, your little Ranger. Yeah, I had like a little B2300 Ford Ranger type thing. Tiny little truck. I love that truck. Very small. Had that air conditioning. That was cold, like the coldest air conditioning you've ever... It was great in Texas. Yeah. It was awesome. But then I traded in for the toaster. Yeah, the Honda Element. R.I.P.

Still see him over now and then on the road. Love that car. Fantastic car. That car is contributed to my neck surgery. What if you had seen me on a dating app and I was posing next to my Honda Element? I was like leaning on it, arms crossed, had a little smirk.

Yes? No? No? Everything you're doing right now is... Man. I'm so glad I'm not dating right now. You know how hard it would be? I know. Honestly, like... I feel bad for people. Well, I don't know. We don't know, so how can we judge? We only know one way. I mean, obviously, like, you hear all the...

Horror stories. Horror stories on social media. But I also know of a lot of people who have wonderful relationships. That's true. That met on dating apps. I can think of like three of our friends off the top of my head that are married after meeting on social media. I have one, maybe two brothers. So I think we're just biased. Yeah, because we didn't do it. Because of what we see on social media. We were not in that world ever.

So I think we can safely come to the conclusion that dating on social media is perfect.

I don't think that's the conclusion to come to. How about, let's see, any other characters? Are there any characters I missed that you have a particular affinity for? Well, you didn't ask about the psychiatrist. Oh, the psychiatrist. Would that scare you off? I think I'd swipe left. Like, could psychoanalyze you too easily? And just, like, the outdated clothing and the smugness.

You're not a fan? No. Not for a romantic relationship. People will be upset if I don't mention the... Jonathan. Jonathan. Oh, let's take a break. Then we'll get to Jonathan. Hey, Kristen. Yeah. Why?

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Would that bother you to see that in a picture? I feel like that's an immediate swipe left. Yeah, because it's very similar to the pathologist in that I'm not sure that I'm safe. He's always there to help, though. Yeah. But might not be human. Right. Okay. Might just be a robot. Gotcha. Also, the look out of context would just... Yeah. It's not normal. That would scare somebody off. All right. Neurology.

Hmm. Oh, I'm surprised. You're thinking about it. No, I was trying to remember between neurology and neurosurgery. And like there's two or three neuro ones that you've done. So the hair, the hair one. The hair one. Yeah.

I was about to be very shocked that you would consider... For a minute I was thinking of the neurosurgeon. I was like, I don't know anything about the neurosurgeon. No, neurology, I don't think there's any dimension on which we are compatible. What kind of... I don't know what kind of person would find neurology. Another neurologist, perhaps? Do you think they kind of attract...

Similar. Maybe. Similar people. Or just an extreme opposite. What would be the opposite? Maybe a pediatrician. Yeah, I would say a pediatrician might be in terms of personality. Right. Yeah. I think I covered all of them. Is that it? Do we do it? I'm sure I have other characters I'm not thinking of. Let us know what we missed, everybody. So I think you swiped.

Left on most of them. Which shows that I am a sane, healthy person because your characters are extreme exaggerations of problematic stereotypes. Oh, Bill the Resident. Oh, I...

I don't think I can take that on at this time. Yeah, there's no time to stress, to... Yeah. I mean, you know what it's like to... Yeah, I've already done that once. I'm not interested in doing it again. No. No. Is it that bad? At least it was home call. You know, that makes me think about... There was one time... Yeah, give me some of your call. Well, no, there was one time where...

It was just a very odd but meaningful scenario that I seen that I stumbled upon, which was there was a lone sock laying on your nightstand. And even for you, like you tend to throw your clothes everywhere. Sure. But I had never seen one all the way up on the nightstand before. And it seemed like it had been placed there, not like randomly, you know, it wasn't draped or whatever. So I was curious about that. And then come to find out,

You had put your pager on top of it so that it wouldn't buzz and wake me up on, you know, if it were directly on the nightstand. So that was kind of touching. It was thoughtful. Yeah. Right. I always did feel really bad. I was like,

I pride myself on being able to wake up very quickly to grab the pager or my alarm or something. Because I instinctively don't want to wake you up because I know how hard it is for you to fall back asleep. And then you're just going to be tired all day. Right. You'll have to suffer the consequences. Did that ever work, though? Did you just wake up every time anyway? I don't know. Did I?

I mean, I know when I woke up. I don't know the times that I didn't wake up. When you would wake up in the middle of the night to my pager, would you like under your like in your head where you're like, I can't believe I married this guy. That was to wake up in the middle of what I said to myself. No, but it was some grumbling for sure. Can't you go in a different room? What do you think would have been better? Like, do you?

home call where, you know, obviously like I'm on call for like a weekend at a time or something or just like one 24 hour time period where I'm just not home at all. Probably that. Think that would be better? Yeah. Than being a, being home call, like being home but just being on call. That is kind of more annoying because you're home. Right. So I want you to be participating. Right. But then you keep not being available. Okay. So it's like

At least if you're gone, it's just like, okay, well, he's gone. So this is going to go this way. You know exactly what's going to happen. I don't have any expectations that are not being met. Yeah. You know, in theory, the home call thing, it sounds good. It sounds like better. But in a lot of ways, it's not, you know, because I don't know. I don't know. It's a mixed bag. Like there were times where. Now it's good.

Well, yeah. Right. Private practice ophthalmology. Yeah. Technically, I take home call for a week at a time, but I get like five calls over the course of a week. But it was nice, like, especially when we had little babies, it was nice if you were there in the evenings to help with dinner and bedtime and all of that. And then, you know, it's maybe it is just like a an internal bias, but it seemed like you got more calls overnight. Yeah.

Yeah. You know, because it's like five or six, you come home, everybody's already been in the clinic that day. And you got a couple of hours where we did all the dinner, bedtime. That's true. And then like after people start going to bed or, you know, about bedtime for adults, the calls start again. There's a certain time where after that time,

Every single call is from the emergency department. And so it's going like, cause that's, that's all people are doing in the middle of the night. Where are you going to go? Right. Um, and a lot of people just either, or they're not patients of ours. So they won't like call us directly. Right. They'll just go to the emergency department. And I want to say it's like 11 PM. Yeah. You know, that's,

When it feels like your doctor is asleep. Right. Yeah. So it's too late to call. And it would get taken home call, especially during residency. It was one of those things like, I don't want to go to sleep until midnight. I don't even want to try to fall asleep until midnight. Cause I know I'm going to get that call at like 1130 PM, 1145. And then you can have a whole night where you're asleep.

Sometimes. Sometimes. But there's always that call like that comes up right when you go to start falling asleep. Yeah. You had a knack for that. Oh, God. You would wait up and wait up and then feel like it was safe to go to bed and then page. That's almost worse than like a 3 a.m. call. It's like I just fell asleep and now I got to start the whole process over again. Anyway, I'm just reliving my residency days now. That's all we got. That's all. That's it for Knock Knock Calls.

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Sure. I don't believe you. Oh. That was not very convincing. No? That's okay. I fully admit I'm not the best at it. And the problem is physicians have to do a lot of multitasking. Yeah, that is a problem. Like I'm sitting there, I talk to the patient, I hear all the things, synthesize all the information, come up with a diagnosis, sometimes order medications, and then maybe that has an interaction with a different medication. You got to like figure that out.

You know what can help though? What? Microsoft Dragon Copilot. Yeah, this is great. You don't have to, you can just use Dragon Copilot like in your workflow. You can access information right at the point of care, right there with the patient. And like if I wanted to look up a code, a diagnostic code for the encounter, I can use Dragon Copilot.

I can look up drug-drug interactions. There's an endless number of applications that you can use Dragon Copilot for. That's true. Very true. I think it's good for you as a patient, too. Yeah, I mean. Because it's streamlined. It's streamlined. And you get accurate information more quickly. Yes, exactly. You're taking the words right out of my mouth. To learn more about Microsoft Dragon Copilot, visit aka.ms slash knockknockhot.

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