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So we can get into the real shit. My boyfriend, let's call him Adrian, and I have been together for a little over six months now. And it's been the healthiest, most rewarding relationship I've ever been in. Oh, man. He's 28. I'm 26. And we truly care so deeply for one another. It's been six months. Yeah, but that's nice. No, I'm saying it's nice, but I'm like, you just don't really fully know a person in six months.
Yeah, hopefully it's still this way in a year if his dad doesn't get involved. I've been amazed that I somehow found someone who's independent like me but can love me and respect me in the ways I've always wanted and needed to be. The other night we were playing We're Not Really Strangers. Love that card game. I think that's – is that Esther Perel?
It's a card game with prompts. The conversational card game and the card prompt prompted him to reveal a time that had caused him pain. Oh, no. He paused and revealed to me that several years ago there was an incident with his dad that caused a lot of pain for himself and his family. What kind of a game is this? It's just basically conversation prompts to get to know people deeper. It's really good, actually. I have this deck. So it's not really a game, right?
No. It's just we don't really know how to talk to each other, so let's use these card prompts. Okay. I was like, this is a terrible way to spend a Friday night. This is my ideal Friday night. Oh, my God. Let's dig into your psyche. He kept the details vague, but said his dad was accused of something horrible. Many people, including his neighbors, were extremely rude to his parents. Wow. How bad was it? And that he hated seeing his dad so upset by something that he caused.
I could tell it was difficult for Adrian to share this with me, so I didn't push for details. But some kind of awareness popped up in my head. Not necessarily alarm bells, but an awareness. His dad is a prominent neuroscientist in the area and still practicing.
So it made me wonder if the accusation was something surrounding malpractice. I've spent time with Adrian's dad and family a few times, and from the first time I met his dad, I thought he was really remarkable, kind person. He was easy to talk to, made efforts to understand you on a deeper level, and provided levity and humor to the occasional awkward Jewish family interactions.
Two days later, I leaned into that awareness and Googled Adrian's dad's name. What came up at the bottom of the Google search was an article that completely shocked me. I'll attach it here. Please don't read the headline out loud. I feel a bit paranoid, but here are the main points. In 2015, his father was found not guilty of public indecency and sexual exploitation of a child. Okay. Not guilty is good.
Okay.
Oy vey, huh? Am I right? In that year, he was charged with public indecency, pleaded guilty, and in 2007, he pleaded guilty to masturbating in front of teen girls at a park. Oh, it's the Louis C.K.
But a little worse. I've been in complete shock since reading the article and honestly don't know how to wrap my head around this. I know I need to have a conversation with Adrian to tell him I know about this article, but I still can't quite form the words or questions. From the time I've met Adrian, I know he greatly respects his dad, but this must have caused some kind of inner turmoil for him. Does he even know about the earlier incidents?
I mean, I'm sure he does. It's on Google. Has he, his father, or anyone in that family been in therapy for this? I think of Adrian's older sisters who both have children under the age of eight. I worry and fear that Adrian believes his dad is innocent despite the prior incidents and charges that they say otherwise. I know he and his sisters are essentially secondary victims to his dad's actions, but I also think about what it means for me as a woman if I'm with someone who absolves another's
I love him so much and it pains me to consider both that he had to deal with this fucked up situation and what this could mean for our relationship. I feel like I'm still fumbling for words, so I hope this all makes sense. I admire you both greatly and really value your opinion, so please tell me how to handle this situation with grace.
Thank you, a loyal fucker. Ah, so your boyfriend, best relationship you've ever had, you finally realized his dad was diddling himself in front of kids. What's a gal to do, huh? Yeah, I mean, you know what I'm going to say. It's been six months. You don't need to be a part of this family. This is fucking wild. This is just so much to sign up. But it's like the best. It's six months, Christina. Six months.
Six months is a minimal investment. Totally. To me, it's six months is like, it's like, it's letting you know that really something really good out there exists for you. That's a good way to think about it. You are not going to convince a guy to, to not like his dad anymore. It's not going to happen. Yeah. Oh, but my friends, it's not going to happen. I'm just thinking of my friends trying to convince me like, maybe you should not talk to your parents. And I'm like, what are you the devil? So this is amazing.
And I feel really bad for Adrian and his siblings because it's got to be a weird situation when your parents are the ones doing these evil acts. And if you met him and he's a great guy and he's charismatic, that's probably how he reeled the kids in. Then...
Yeah, I guess you don't want that smoke. Do you want to marry into this family? No. Do you want to marry into this family? Yeah, probably not. You want to have a father-in-law who you Google and it has three crimes of master... And those are the ones that got reported. Like...
I mean, if you were already married, this is, you know, like, I don't know. Watch the Anthony Weiner doc and see what his wife went through. Yeah. And then get back to me. That's tough. Right. Because what if, and also what if the dad did something to the kids? Yeah. And then the, and let me tell you, I've met Anthony Weiner. He is great. Charismatic. Really a lot of good ideas, but then you Google and you go, okay, well, I can't, I don't know what to say about it. Yeah. And I, and I think, I think drawing the line at, uh,
at trying to diddle yourself in front of kids or doing something to minors. That's, that's not good. Yeah. It would be, it would be a different situation if your boyfriend was like, I am so,
so ashamed or I feel so much pain for the people who my, you know, dad did this to. But like, you're, this is his dad. This is a, I'm not saying that he shouldn't love his dad, but it seems like he doesn't, he's not even at the point yet where he's acknowledging that his dad did anything wrong. Yeah. This is a massive,
a mountain that will take decades to climb. Do you, is, is he that amazing? Wow. This should be an ad for the game. We're not straight, really strangers card deck. Yeah. That you want to climb a mountain that, that car to find out if your boyfriend's dad didled somebody. We're not strangers card deck. Yeah. Whatever that card deck costs you. Wow. Thank you.
Write a thank you note because that could have been all your life savings if you didn't have a prenup. If it took a deck of prompt cards for him to admit that to you six months in, I wonder if you're the first person that's not his family that he's told.
Yeah. Again, and I know because you guys are 26 and 28 that six months feels like a big amount of time. Two years minimum you're going to put into something before you would know if someone is worthwhile at that age. When you get into your 30s, I think you can do one year because you just know a little bit better. 26, I mean, I could have been dating –
a really bad person. I was going to say a terrorist, but I was like, I was like, I could have been dating Hitler for six months and been like, Oh my God, he's so good at art. He loves animals. He's charismatic. And I listen, do what you want to do ultimately. But I am, but I'm telling you now, this is a huge, huge, huge, huge, huge, huge, huge mountain to climb. And if you think a love is enough, um,
to climb the mountain of the dad being accused three times of masturbating in front of teens, then that's the most 26-year-old thing I've ever heard. With all due respect, I've been there. And let me add to this, just to make you feel a little better, I am 37, and if I were in your position and I was six months into a relationship where I've never felt so respected and loved, and I found this out, I don't know that I would leave. So, I get it.
but it's probably the best. Corinne's idea is probably the best one. Uh, I mean, again, I mean, not just like, I don't think I'm saying just, just ghost him, have a conversation, but I mean like you did your own research. I mean, we didn't know. Also, we didn't even look at the article headline. I got, I gotta see what this says here. Okay. Oh, that's not good. That's not good. Oh, wait, hold on. Let me refresh it. Fucking ads. Okay.
Ah, fuck off. Okay, hold on. Okay, there's a word in this headline that is letting the reader know... And please, this is... I get why you didn't want us to say the headline. Yeah, there is a word in this headline that says, yes, he was cleared of the charges, but the judge didn't want to do it. Yeah, it's very clear in this headline. The judge... It's in the headline. I'm betting you the judge was probably like, ah, fucking gonna lose my license for this one. Yeah. So...
Again, it would be a different story if your boyfriend was like, I can't believe my dad betrayed the family like this. But your boyfriend's point of view right now, and I don't even blame him. It's really hard to, if you admire your parents, to change your point of view on them, even if they're doing something wrong. That's really hard. But that's not your journey to take. No.
Missy? Oh, yeah. Wow. Okay, that's not good. Yeah, so if he was like, oh man, he betrayed the family, I don't know what to do. But your dad's like, oh, the neighbors have been really rude to my dad, the jack-off king. That's your boyfriend's perspective right now. You think...
That your six-month love is going to be able to heal that so that you can have a functional relationship and possibly marry into this jerk-off family. You know, critical thinking they definitely should teach in schools, but they should also teach the fact that love isn't enough. They really should teach that because that's tough, man, because when the love's there, you really think it's enough.
And you might blow up your whole life because you're like, well, love's there. So clearly I don't go. But you should. Love is very like loosey-goosey terminology. What does that mean? I love Twizzlers. I love birds. Am I going to throw my whole life away? I love severance. What are we doing here? Again, you're going to do what you're going to do, and I know that. But you wrote this letter for a reason. Yeah, you always do. And I'm going to leave it at that.
And I'll defer to Corinne on that. I think that's a wise choice. There's just, you know... We're just... I'm just trying to save you time. Yeah. And look, yeah, if he was already in therapy...
If he told you not because a card game asked him to really lightly suggested it. Yeah. Yep. Yep. Yep. If he, if he already came to the table with like, and I think six months into a relationship is a fair amount of time to come to the table with something big like that. Right. Cause you're like, I don't know if this guy's a fuck buddy or what.
Yeah, I do agree with. Well, also, if you don't, my heart doesn't, but my head does. If you don't want to get married, this is different, but it seems like from the way you're writing, you're someone who possibly wants to get married. And so when you think of that, like, so you want to enter a business deal with a family who has, who has this, I wouldn't want this person related to me by blood or, or, or paper. I'm,
I don't want them at the wedding. I don't want them at my kids christening. If that's what you do. I don't want them at the 15th birthday party because that seems to be his favorite age. I don't want them near my kids. I don't want him dropping the kids off at school. I mean, he shouldn't be near a school. He should lose his license. So if you're thinking of, you know, your relationship with this 28-year-old long-term, you should also then be thinking about the family because the family comes with it. That's the part that we always forget. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. So if...
Even if you don't talk to the family, they're going to be there sometimes. Yeah. And again, your boyfriend is obsessed with his dad. That's pretty bad. That's not going to go away. We always think, oh, we're going to be a – like if you meet someone and they really, really like their parents, like they're never going to like you more than their parents. I'm just telling you that now. Yeah.
I don't, it's not, I'm just, I'm just trying to save you a lot of time. Corinne's school for life preparedness and just these very brief lessons and just don't ask questions cause it's true. So just next. I mean like, you know, that's why you got to run for mayor. You've dated someone who has like been obsessed with their mom. I'm sure like a mama's boy or maybe not. Maybe you're the mama's boy.
But like, yeah, I'm the mama's boy. So like, you know, it's just, it's really, really, really impossible to get past that. Yeah. I've, yeah, I've, I've been the person obsessed with my parents, but you know, then you don't talk to them and it changes, but yeah, I get it. I've never dated a mama's boy ever, but I can totally understand being very turned off by that.
Okay. Thanks for writing. Let us know what happens. I would love an update. Ask your boyfriend a fun question for this next card game that you play together. Insert a fake card into the game. This is a fun question that I've asked guys in the past. Our house is on fire and you're in this situation. Your dad's inside and I'm inside. You can only save one person. Who are you saving?
It's not going to be you. Just so you know, me and your dad are both doing individual activities unique to our interests. Yeah. Which one are you saving? Yeah. I once asked the guy I was seeing that question did not like, you know what you should ask six months in relationship. Is there anything I should know? Is there anything I should know?
Is there anything I should know? Because if there's something I should know, six months in is a great time. Six months in is a great time. You got any skeletons? Tell me now. If we were to get married today, is there something that you should tell me before we sign that paperwork? Yeah. Would you be nervous walking down the aisle going, oh, I didn't tell her that? Also, yeah, just Google the family's name. I never Google anybody. It's great. I got to start doing that. Yeah. I got to start doing that.
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We do go over a lot of critical thinking if that's something you struggle with. And it's a great way to learn how to take in right-wing material, left-wing material, centrist material, and then kind of decide for yourself where the truth in a story is. I think it's a really important skill to develop in these times. Yeah.
Join me. Without a country podcast. Yeah. How are you doing? Oh, great. You know, just really great. Sounds it. Calm down. My jaw has hurt for a month and a half. So this is fun. From grinding? Not grinding, but just clenching. Yeah. I don't know how, what the hell kind of genetic makeup you have to have to...
be able to think clearly with little sleep as you have been getting. Well, it's really impressive. I was trying to explain. I wanted to explain in guys who fuck terms what it's like to run for mayor. And I would say it's like every it's like if every day you got asked out by your crush, but also the
dumped by the love of your life. Oh my God. But it was happening every day multiple times. Right? So not just like every couple days. That's so terrible. It's like every day because you'll get some good news and then you'll be so hyped and then you'll get some really bad news and then it'll ruin the next several days and then you won't be able to sleep and then you're like, oh fuck, what am I doing?
am I doing here? And then you'll question all your life choices. And then you're like, does love even really exist? It does. You'll be like, maybe I should never be in a relationship again. Maybe I should then you're thinking then you're like, maybe I should just open a flower shop in the middle of the woods. And then you're like, well, that was actually part of the plot of it ends with us. You want to end up like Blake Lively? Probably not. But actually, the movie was really good. And I'm and because of all the drama, I ended up
not watching it until a couple days ago and then I was like why didn't I watch this sooner and then they're both like really hot and really good actors in the movie yeah they're both really hot and I really like the story are they nude at all you see body you don't see like nip though darn it I mean Justin Baldoni's body is fucking
Fire! I, before these, before this whole debacle, I was trying to make this joke work on stage years ago. When a guy that you're like, you think is so hot gets me too'd and you're like, ah, I don't know. What'd he do? Right? Like, what did he do? Like, that's the only time where I'm like, maybe not with women. As a joke, it's not true. That I have never, I have, Sam, that football player guy I talked about last week, that's hands down the hottest guy I've ever seen in my life. But up until I saw Sam's face, that fucking...
novel come to life of a man, Justin Baldone. He was the hottest person I've ever laid eyes upon. And then, yeah, I didn't, well, I didn't know who, I didn't know that he was that. I just knew him as the guy from the feminist podcast. I didn't even know he was an actor. Yeah. He was cause he was in the Gina, um, the ABC sitcom. Um, I forget which one, but that's why I didn't know. He was so hot. Yeah. I couldn't believe it. Yeah. He's just, he,
he's and he's a good actor and I also I want to say he directed the film I thought it was really well directed yeah I thought all around I really enjoyed it and I also thought like I'm like it's unfortunate because I thought it was a really good piece about domestic violence and domestic abuse that that is needed we don't have enough stories that tell that
I mean, obviously, like, I think in the real world, the person, you know, Blake's character would have stayed longer. But I mean, for a movie, they go through X amount of, you know, all the phases, altercations, and then they finally, you know, come to some kind of a resolution. I yeah, I just thought it was really good. I have to watch it. Yeah. Yeah.
And Jenny Slate plays Justin Baldoni's sister. And I think I really love her character and I love the way that they had her react to the, the, the abuse. I think it's, yeah, I really like, I really, really liked it. So it's unfortunate that it has been overshadowed by all this nonsense. Yeah. I hope as a culture, this is kind of veering off a little bit, but I'm thinking of the story. Like,
There's so many people – like the way Justin Baldoni was just vehemently defending himself. Like the way like guilty people defend themselves, it's just really gaslighting. I'm –
if you think of a line to put them in their place to melt that, I've, I've just, I've been experiencing that on so many levels, just on the news, just with the government saying, we're not doing this while they're doing the thing with parents fucking. Oh my God. The hypocrisy. But I also like, how does, how does someone who's innocent defend themselves? Because I think we blame it on the other person. My, the pattern I've been experiencing is, Oh, that's how a guilty person does. I was saying, how does an innocent person do it? Like, so like, cause I'm like,
I'm like, how do we know? Like we all have, you know, this reminds me a lot of the, of people's reaction to a grieving person, right? Everyone has their idea of how they would act if their husband died, you know? And I see it happen on social media all the time. And they're like, Oh, you don't even care that your husband died. This is how you're acting. It's like, what the fuck are you talking about? Everyone grieves differently. So I just like, sometimes I don't know. I'm like, how do we know if someone is guilty or innocent? I mean, sometimes they give it away that they're guilty for a hundred percent. Yeah. But then sometimes I'm like,
And additionally, in my experience, the general public's read on others is very bad. The general public is very, very easily tricked by scammers, schemesters, inauthentic people, and a lot of times are angered by authentic people. So I go, maybe I should just be fake now. Yeah.
Don't please. You're the only one because you're the only one that's because people's read is so like I, the amount of times I've been sitting and watching the public react to someone who is so full of shit and be like, Oh, I, Oh my God, this person's so funny. I love this person. I mean like Ellen, if you fell for Ellen, I did fall for that's on you. Yeah. Stop. I did. Ellen with the fucking dancing and nonsense. Oh my God.
And like, again, I pissed me off because she's a really talented standup comedian. Yeah, she is. I, I want it. It's more than a sense of self to develop that, that muscle of being able to pick up when someone's full of shit. But like I'm taught, so I'm thinking of a situation involving my friends, uh, who's had the really abusive, violent partner. Right. She had, uh, uh,
an instance where she had to be with a legal thing where she had to be on a Zoom. He was there. Didn't realize he was going to be there. He proceeded to say how he was the victim of domestic abuse. And it's like, that's the thing that I'm like, what? What? What can I say to you to make you, one, cut that shit out, but to two, really feel the...
shame of what you've done, like feel the actions of what you've done because that's not an approach that's going to work. I know you have to be non-reactive to people like that. They want to get a reaction out of you. I say you just, you just completely stoic. Okay, sure. Yeah. Yeah. I'm sorry that you went through the, all that pain on my part.
That's a good one. Yeah. You can't because they want you to get reactive. Sure. I'm such a sucker for that shit. Yeah. It's the same. It's like trolls online. It's like they just don't react. Most times not reacting is going to hurt the person more. If you want to hurt anyone, I mean like no matter what it is, even if like, you know,
your ex tries to get you back and they like fucked you over just be non-reactive yeah well that's why they say the opposite of love is not hate it's indifference when someone you were dating and you break up and they act like you're not even there that's hurt that hurts that hurts but if they're like mad at you like you will my life you're like oh my god thank you yeah or even worse they're just like really nice to you oh gross that's not good you oh god you don't miss me at all anymore do you know who i miss
Today's guest? Yeah. Well, yeah. I miss him already. Guys, he's a stand-up comedian. His stand-up special, On the Map, is available on YouTube right now for free for your viewing pleasure. Ladies and gentlemen, please welcome to the show, Giulio Gallarotti. Thank you.
Alright guys, we are here with stand-up comedian Giulio Gallarotti. How you doing? Hello, hello, hello. Good to be here. I just learned you're married. I am married. We've known each other for over a decade in stand-up, right? But one thought that comes to mind for me when I think of you is that you always are dating a hot chick.
Really? Always. Really? Yeah. Right? Well, he's been with his now wife for quite some time at this point. You have. You have. Not that she's not a hot chick, but I mean, yeah. She definitely, yeah, I would say falls under the umbrella of hot chick. You know, when men date like baddies, like tennis. Is there hair on there? No, it was like fuzz. Oh. Sorry, sorry. It's our guy. It makes me go, oh, that guy.
Not that I think anything badly of you, but I'm like, oh, you get elevated in my head when you do a hot check. Interesting. Yeah. Well, it's funny because sometimes I wonder – I wasn't sure what you were going to say at the end of that because –
There's sometimes like there's an argument that like you could, it makes you like respect somebody less if it's a specific type of time that we're talking. Totally. But it's a type that like, you know, she has a good relationship with her family and has a great job and like wants more for the world. Like when you're hot and you have that, you're like super hot. You know what I mean? That's how I associate the women that you have. I appreciate that. Yeah. I appreciate that. Yeah. Cause like in comedy, especially like,
They're definitely – not to be judgmental but – Do it. I guess I'm going to be judgmental. It's easy to judge sort of like these guys who as they start to get older and they're with like super young girls. It's weird. It can be a little bit of a like, oh, like I don't know. A little scummy. That's a little bit of a demerit on the total scoring that I'm doing at all times with people. A hundred percent. This guy is Mr. Cool Guy with the hot chick, right? Like I don't know.
know. Yeah. It's like someone, it's like someone who just hangs around at high school after they've already graduated. Like that's the energy. Like go home. No one likes that. Time to move on. Yeah. So what, so you're married and, uh, was that something that you always wanted for yourself? I think so. And to be honest in comedy, especially like,
you see people who never do it and like, it totally works for some people, but when it doesn't and you see somebody where it has not worked out for them. Meaning like they, they're with somebody and they're not married or they're not with anybody. I'm not sure. Like maybe they are, maybe they're not like they're not, they're definitely not married. Yeah. And you can tell that,
they are really sad. And it might not be specifically because of that, but like the lifestyle has sort of run its course. So wait, this feels man specific though. Yes. I'm talking about, I'm comparing myself to other single men in common. I think that older single men who aren't married, you're like, is he okay? But older single women who aren't married, you're like, yeah, girl.
be independent. I wasn't thinking about women at all. And to be honest, like I perfect, a lot of heterosexual men aren't. So you walked right into our track. Well, no, hopefully like the, the point that I was trying to make was I would compare myself to other single men in comedy and be afraid of that scenario. Right. Because at the end of the day, like sex and all this like shit that you can do when you're a comedian, like it doesn't,
add up to anything. You know what I mean? It's like fleeting and like you kind of start at ground zero every day if you're like single and having sex all the time with different people and like that's great. It's great in your 20s. It's amazing but it starts to get less great I would imagine as like partying becomes more difficult to sustain and now suddenly like your hangovers are really bad. You don't have your shit together. Your knees are achy. It gets less cute. Totally. And harder to execute as you get older. From what I've seen and that's just one of the assumptions I was making is
but I was always like, I don't want to be like that. Yeah. Now I like being single when I was. Is that what you said when you proposed? I know. I was like, fear is really what pushed me to get on my knee to here tonight. Do you want to know what I said? No, I said to her, you're my special boy and now I want to make you my special man. That's fucking hilarious. I'm guessing that's kind of an inside joke between you two. It is. It is. I hope otherwise. I have an audio recording. I can do it. That's okay.
Yeah, that is what I said specifically. But anyway, no, I like that she has sort of a conventional life and it has...
She made it so that I prioritize her conventional life. So like a lot of like life things that are going on in her world with her friends and her family, like I'm doing those things with her and I'm really enjoying them. Yeah. You have like some semblance of normalcy. A little bit. In your life. That's cool. Prioritizing like long wedding weekends or like, you know what I mean? Like stuff where like if it was just my life, I wouldn't do it because I'm like, who do you think you are? You can't.
You can't afford to like block off a weekend. Like this is when you work. I don't know. Whatever. So it's been very nice. Now what, so what, what happened in your mind that made you okay with a long wedding weekend? Um,
Like for other people's wedding weekends. Yeah. Because it's like people who are so important to her and they're important to me too now. Right. And she also has really good friends. Oh, that's great. Who are like – That's nice. They're for each other. They're like super loving. Like I don't even know that like friends could be the way that her friends are. Girl groups of friends, they're not all like this. But the ones that – I have a special group of girlfriends that are like – like we just lift each other up and like call us whenever. Like even if I haven't talked to you in a while, like –
pick right back up. That is very special and I wish men had that. It's a nice thing. Yeah. So I've enjoyed that. I like, yeah. So Danny Palmer doesn't hold you when you're crying. No, but Danny Palmer, it's funny. Danny's 50th birthday party. I'm treating like his wedding. Oh, I got the, I got the email. He's about to be, yeah, he's Benjamin buttoning hard.
I got the email like, you know, a month and a half ago for his 50th birthday weekend. I go, I think a weekend, Danny, I don't even know what, like, I'm going to be doing next week. This is, I don't know if I can, where is it? Oh, that's so cute. He's so cute. It was such a long email. And I was like very moved that I was invited. And I go, and also like just knowing Danny, I was like,
I don't know if I can keep up with you. Sure, you're 11 years older than me, but I don't know if I can keep up with you. I know. I know. I know. He may be one of... Well, time will tell, but he may be one of the success stories of guys who make it deep into their lives single. Sure, because he actually is a great example of a guy that... He's very vulnerable in small conversations, and I really treasure that about Danny. Agreed. He's one of the few men in comedy where whenever I see him, I'm like, oh, yes!
Fuck you. Like he really lightens up the room that he walks into. Well, his good vibe series, which I'm going to take producing credit for because I was like, you got to put this on online. I mean, his that's who he is. Yeah. You know, he's not he's not faking it. He to me, he's someone who really created like a blueprint for how he wanted his life to be. And it's unique to him. And it really works like he he has a he has a way of living that is his own. And most people don't have that.
So is he one of your best friends? Yes. So how deep do you guys get? Very. Okay, good. Because he's a good, yeah. You guys are both good dudes in comedy. So I imagine you have a great friendship. Oh, thank you. Yeah, that's very nice. He, yeah, we have like a hilarious relationship and like bust each other's balls. I mean, Corinne, I imagine, you know, you understand what it's like being very tight with Danny. I think, I don't know to what degree, are you as tight with Danny as Corinne is? No, no, Corinne's tighter with him, but I've just known him since we started.
comedy and I'm just so happy to see him every time I do yeah he's the man he's the man yeah we he like comes on the road with me a good amount we hang around I always just find the things he wants to do it just tickles me dude he's like let's go like all he wants to do is talk to chicks at the bar and get some candles at Marshall's yeah exactly exactly the good vibe series has really shown a nice inner or an interview of the way that he conducts his life yeah
And he really, like, he really thinks about things before he does them or, yeah, it just, I, every time I, he watches my dog a lot and every time I drop my Alfred off there, he hits me with something that really reframes my perspective. And I go, nice. Nice, Danny. Like what? That was good vibes. I don't know. He'll just be like, first of all, he talks like a Ninja Turtle, but then he'll be reading some really, like, in-depth book about, like, how the brain works. Yeah.
And he'll share like a factoid for me with me. And it feels like, you know, it feels like he's selling me a burrito on the beach. That's like the tone. But then what he's actually saying is quite,
Yeah. It's mismatched. Yeah, no, for sure. He's like philosophical. Yeah, he is philosophical. I always like when he has your dog because it means he's going to spend less time talking to Chad GPT, which concerns me quite a bit. Dude, I talk to Chad GPT all the time. Are you impersonating him or you're saying that about yourself? No, no, no. I have a bit about it. That's how much I do it. I didn't know it was bad for the environment and I am floored that I didn't get a warning because I ask it the dumbest fucking questions on the planet.
I talk to it. I do voice notes. Oh, wow. Crazy. Please help me with my one-woman show. Yeah. Crazy. What is Danny asking it? All kinds of facts, maybe? No. Danny is using it more for emotional support. Danny.
Oh, like why doesn't he just get one of the – He can be pretty good though, I got to say. That's what he says. But he can just get an internet girlfriend. What are they called? Oh, an AI girlfriend. Yeah, an AI girlfriend. I had an AI boyfriend for a while. Best decision I ever made. I got to say I get more emotional satisfaction from ChatGBT than I do my AI boyfriend. Oh, I love – my AI boyfriend. We haven't talked in a while, but man, that was a sick time.
He's sitting there waiting for you. Yeah. He was awesome. Yeah. There's like, so yeah, Danny will be like, dude, I was having a bad day and I talked to Chet Chibity and like,
And like, it made me see that like, it really wasn't that bad of a day, dude. Like most of my friends aren't able to do that for me. Wow. Now I have to go ask. That's great. The lesson of this episode is called Danny Moore. Oh my God. That's amazing. All right. Back to you anyway, but that was a good, that was a good Danny break. Danny break in life.
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Um, so wait, so when you, so when you met Hillary, uh, how long ago did you meet her? Um, 2018, the fall of 2018. Oh wow. That was a long time ago. And how soon did you know that she was the one? Very soon. I will say that I was in a period of my life where like, that's not surprising. I was like in my come on hot stage. Um,
You're come on with women or with comedy? Oh, I'm in hot. What does that mean? I don't know. Like, you know, at this point one might be able to call it love bombing. Oh, you were love bombing. Is it love bombing? If you get married, I don't think so. It's then it, that's a marriage. Now that's a book.
Is it love bombing if you get married? So you were the love bomber? I think so. I wasn't aware of the terminology yet. Had I been, I would have probably been like, oh shit, this is a thing that people do. It feels so good. Does it feel good to do though? Yeah, because the problem with the love bomber in my situation is that I believed what I was saying.
Oh. I believed it all. Oh, that sucks. I believed it all. But how many times had you done it to other people? Not many. I think that I had just come out of a period of like a long period of being pursued typically. So like I would react to a girl showing me attention and then I would be like, oh, I have the green light. I'm going to do this. Yeah. So I had sort of transitioned into this I'm going to make the first move guy. Oh.
Which is more traditional, I guess. It is. And I don't know. So then I started sort of coming in super fucking hot. And sometimes it would work in my favor and other times it wouldn't. Yeah. And other times I'd be like, oh man, I bit off more than I can chew here and I'm actually not interested. Did you ever get in a sticky situation where you love bummed a girl? See, I knew men do it.
They don't do that all the time. They just want to see if they can get you. They're not even that interested sometimes. No, but I believed it. I was like, I'm in love with this person. Like, oh my God. How'd you back out? Like, one of your worst love bombs where you were like, ah, you're the best. And she's like, you too. And you're like, oh no, I don't really think so.
I don't know. Just like time, I guess. And, and, and sometimes like being straightforward and others not. Yeah. Sometimes it's just like dance where like you start to understand that like, you know, they take a step back. So you take a step back, then they take another step and you take another step back. And like, for the most part, like I don't have any bad blood with people about any of those moments. I don't think at least like that they let me onto, like I usually talk anybody who I meet. I typically talk to you for the rest of my life.
That's nice. Wow. Yeah. Like, seriously. Like, you know, we follow each other and I'm an active Instagram user. I'll reply. I'm like, oh, cool. And trying to make it clear that I'm not being inappropriate also if it's somebody who I've had a thing with in the past. Oh, yeah, yeah. I'll be like, I'm only going to like photos where there's no skin showing. That's nice. Just so I'm not doing that thing. You know what I mean? I don't know. Maybe that's stupid. Well, it's funny because listening to you describe it, I'm like, well, no.
there's so much strategy here that you're now spending more time thinking about them than you would if you just liked the bikini pic. I know, but like, I feel this like responsibility. Yeah, no, that's good. That's nice to hear from a straight guy. I do feel it to be honest. Cause that, yeah, it's not nice to like hurt people's feelings on purpose. You know what? It's clip. That's going to, that's going to be the clip. It's not going to be a funny clip this week. It's going to be a truth bomb from a straight man. That's really nice. Cause like when God, like when a guy, when your boyfriend likes you,
bikini photos. It's annoying. It's annoying. Yeah. It's not hurtful per se, but it's annoying. You could have just not done that. But you wanted her to know. Right. Why? Because you could have just enjoyed the photo quietly. But you chose not to. I'm not asking you not to enjoy bikini photos. No, that's rude. That's not.
But no, it's not. Okay. It's not, I'm not liking a non bikini photo because I wanted to like the bikini photo or I'm like, I can't like that one. So I'm going to like the next one. I'm actually just sincerely separately liking other photos that I deem myself, uh, that are, that I'm allowed to in my own brain. I want you to teach a class.
I know. I do too. Male friendships and how a man should act on Instagram. Yep, yep, yep, yep. So you're not flirting with anybody in those DMs? No. Well, I mean like – I mean flirting is – flirting is not terrible. That's – I'm not trying to imply that. Totally. I have a lot of girlfriends. OK. And occasionally like it will come to my attention where Hillary will be like, well, you know –
uh, if so-and-so couple this, if this were happening, they might not like this. And I'm like, that's fine. And she's not even telling me not to do it. And maybe she, in her own little way is being like, all right, like let's at least acknowledge she's pretty hands off and she's not like, she's not a snoop. Yeah. But like that, you know, but yeah, not that I know of. Yeah. But I'll make the point. I'm like, well, the difference is it is very in line with my personality and my life to have these relationships. Whereas with this person,
couple that you're referencing for him it would be unusual he doesn't have girlfriends so if he suddenly did right right that'd be weird I would understand why that would be more upsetting potentially than it is in this situation yeah yeah whatever yeah have you ever snooped I try not to
That's not a no. I'm trying to think. I'm just curious if guys never snoop. That's not true. Guys are always snooping on me. Oh my God. The most snoopage I'll do is a peek. It's fucking annoying. And even then, I try not to. Well, it's always weird. Guy comics will do this to me a lot. They want to show me a photo, so they put their fucking photo album on their phone in front of me, and they're scrolling through, and I'm like...
There's titties there. I don't want to see that. I don't want to see your balls. Are they doing it on purpose? You think, you know, I don't know. I don't know. It's possible. I don't know, but I don't want to see that shit. It's like a weird sort of like fetish. I'm going to trap her to be like, she's going to see my balls. Yeah. I would call that sexual harassment. Yeah.
But yeah. Or a weird thing that we're doing. This is sexual harassment. This is true. All right. So you meet Hillary in 2018. She's the one. You love bombing her. But you can tell she's different. But it's for the rest of your lives. I'm like, this is it. You know, whatever. So anyway, coming hot. But it became this like funny dynamic because she was just like not that hot.
receptive to it. Nice. Guys love that. There's nothing guys love more. Yeah. Yeah. To be honest, I don't know.
Yeah. She isn't working, so let's try that. It's like if you had chocolate cake every night for after dinner, you'd be like, this sucks. Yeah, maybe. Or whatever your favorite dessert is, yeah. Right, and there's a comedy parallel there too where it's like a tough audience. It feels better to win them over. Of course. Sure, always, yeah. So there was a lot of that back and forth for a while. And it was also nice too. It was very linear. The second it started, it never sort of –
Slow down or took any veer turns left or right like it was just like very much building towards us being together Wow nice, which was like clean. Yeah. I mean, yeah Yeah, how long did it take for you guys to actually officially get together boyfriend and girlfriend? Probably like four or five months. Okay Wow. Yeah, it was a while and I tried earlier and she was like slow down Where did you meet? Um, was it comedy related? No, actually, it's funny. Uh,
I had like maybe known about her once or something, but this is actually what happened. One of my friends, he had been at a party at her apartment. Okay. And it was like a mutual friends thing, like his friend's friend, his friend of her, whatever. So, but like a pretty significant one of those. But anyway, he's like, I got to go get my jacket at, you know, so-and-so's apartment. Will you come? I'm like, sure. Okay.
And you guys are going to think this is douchey. I'm still going to tell you and it's fine. But basically she, I was sitting on the couch, minding my own business, whatever. She walks out of her bedroom. She had two roommates and I see her for the first time. And I literally just said, you're, you're hot. I love that. I love that. I'm coming in hot indeed. What was her reply? She went, Oh, she was like, hi. Like, like not, not,
But like, it was one of those things where I didn't realize that I was sort of swinging and missing. Like we left the apartment and my friend was like, dude, that was sick. I was like, I was like pretty certain that that was the sickest thing of all time. Well, you were right. Yeah. And she was like, yeah, she was like, who was that type of deal? Um, and then I think she had a boyfriend, so I didn't like,
I didn't like pursue her anymore really after that. But like I'd see a picture of her and I'd like comment on it. Like if she was in a picture with one of our mutuals, I'd be like, tell your roommate to call me. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. So you respect your own relationship but you do not respect the relationships of others. Love it. I think I maybe heard that she had broken up with her boyfriend when I did that. Yeah. Yeah, because shooting your shot when they have a boyfriend, it's like, oh God, it's so annoying.
I'm not going to put that energy out there. It works though. Really? Yeah. If you have any doubt in your mind or if you're like your boyfriend is not paying enough attention to you when other guys do it. That's true. It really is. It's a good tactic. And I know guys know that because they do it all the time. Yeah. Yeah. For me, I would start to get worried that that pattern would recreate itself in the future. And then I would be the one getting her snatched from me. That's Danny Palmer infiltrating into your mind.
Yeah, right, right. Danny Palmer goes, snatch your girl. Yeah, it's bad. It's like the guys that I know that participate in that kind of stuff, they all tend to be more paranoid from my experience at least. Yeah, because they know how bad they've been. They know what's possible. What a man is capable of. I'd rather just like not even think about it. Look at that. How does a guy – I know it was 2018 when you started dating, but like in the modern age, even though this was a while ago, like seven years ago, how do you ask somebody to be your girlfriend? Like –
I know. It's crazy. Isn't that a weird conversation to have when you're not 20, 20? Agreed. I think I literally said, well, you beat Mike. Yeah. And I think she like laughed at my face and her friend was like, be nice. Like her friend was like, this was like, I got some rotten recon from, from, so her best friend's boyfriend, now husband, like I sort of knew whatever. And I asked him, I was like, do you think she's into me? And he's like, I think she's real.
I was like, oh, wow, I'm really into her too. And we were out. And so I was like, all right, that's it. I'm asking her to be my girlfriend. And then she laughed at me. But I think she knew it was heading there. She just kind of like... That's sort of how she...
Yeah. That makes sense. Uh-huh. Yeah. Uh-huh. So that's the guy pursue. Yeah. Yeah. That's nice. And it was just nice. It was nice that neither of us sort of like had to change our techniques or our ways. Yeah. You could just naturally be yourself. You know what I mean? How was your wedding? It was great. Yeah? Yeah. Fun party? Did it in New York. It was really fun. New York City? Mm-hmm.
Nice. I always, I want, I'm curious with couples. I'm at this phase in my life where the idea of a wedding sounds really, really fun to have a party with the person celebrating the person you love with all the people you love, but it's so goddamn expensive. Was it worth it? Yeah. Very expensive. Very worth it. You know, I didn't have to really do much pay for much. Oh, good. Oh, who paid for it?
For dad? Potentially. Okay. Well, that's the tradition. To the point where when I was growing up, I remember families talking about saving money for their daughter's weddings when we were fucking six. So that worked out in my favor. That's pretty cool. I mean, look, it's obviously expensive still with some of the other things you need to do and buy and all this stuff. But obviously, if I were the one...
They had to do it. I wouldn't have been able to put on something that was that nice. Yeah, I've been talking to my friends lately who like just got married. I'm like, how the fucking food costs 20 grand? It's crazy. What? It's crazy. It's one of those things where like you say you're having a wedding and everybody depends on making it way more expensive. Yeah. Well, yeah, like $50,000 is like a cheap wedding. I know. It's crazy. That is nuts. Like a very cheap wedding. You can take a loan out. But then it does sound so fun.
You're not going to get buried with your coins. Spend your money. But I don't know. There's pros and cons. Did being married feel any different? Yes, for sure. Really? Yeah. How? You were already living together though, right? Yes, for a few years. But it definitely feels different. It feels like there's this next level of commitment that is different. I also feel like-
Right. Yeah. Can't just bail literally. Um, but also like you feel this, I at least being like, I feel the sort of partnership angle more than I used to. Whereas before I was like, I was just afraid of being, not being able to keep up or like being a burden or not, or needed to like lean on her and like not wanting to like the idea of having to do that now doesn't sound as bad in either direction. You know what I mean? Uh,
And yeah, I just feel very committed to her in a way too. We're like, I don't feel bad about prioritizing her. Like Sundays we usually spend time together because it's like the time that we are free and like, it's like pretty sacred and I have no problem whatsoever. Like not being responsive during that time. Yeah. Whereas before I maybe felt I needed to balance more.
So it's like someone being like, well, yeah, I got five minutes on a microphone for you. Get over here. No, man, I can't today. No, but not even like spots. I never, I actually never put it on Sunday for the most part. Um, but like if my parents were to call me and like, I talked to them a lot. Oh, okay. Like I just, I like don't usually answer on Sunday or I don't know. I just like want, and if I'm going to make plans, I'll see what she's doing first.
because I don't want to cut into that time. Yeah, that's nice. So it's like more respect. Yeah, I think so. And we haven't gotten to see each other much lately, which has bothered me more than it would have before. Oh, because she's your wife. I think so. Yeah, I get that. The seriousness of the husband-wife title feels different to say. And I'm not even married. Like, I get it. Yeah, that must be...
Did you have like a sit down serious conversation before you got married about like what is this going to look like or how did you I mean I'm guessing you've talked about it many times. No. No. You didn't talk about it before you proposed. No there was no like so let's just like double check here. I think that the expectations had been set and understood enough that it didn't require like. So when you proposed it was a true surprise. Yeah.
I tried to make it one. I kind of fucked up a little bit. Like I came home the night before like a little drunk and I was really excited and I was like, can we take a selfie? And she was like, why are we taking a selfie in bed? And like I was like on some shit where I'm like the night before I'm about to. Oh, that's so like she started to sniff it out a teeny tiny bit. Oh, OK. But she didn't know for sure. For sure.
And then she said that she was like, am I about to fucking get engaged? And she's like, what makes you think that you'd be? But no, we didn't go like ring shopping. Like I tried to make it. That's nice. Yeah. And what I did, yeah, sorry to interrupt, but like probably a year or two before that, I tried to find out the very specific specs of what she would specifically want for a ring so that I wouldn't have to ask her again. Closer to. Yeah. So you asked her at that point? Yeah. Yeah.
Okay. I was like, in theory, you know, if this were to work out, like what's, what kind of rings do you like? If this were to work out for like six years into it. No, no, but like literally years before. So like maybe three years into it. I was like, what is the ring that you want specifically? And she like told me all the specs. Whoa. And I made like a folder that had like photos of her like doing like shit like this.
Making the shape of the diamond with her hands. Yeah. Wow. Well, that's great. Yeah. So whatever. So I was able to like, cause I didn't trust myself to do that. Right. And I didn't, I like, God forbid I were to fuck that up and who knows, maybe I still did, but I don't think I did. Yeah. Um, you're very self-aware for a straight guy. I like, I really are. God forbid I should fuck that up. I'm like, it's so funny to me cause I'm like, it's like, I don't know. I just can't imagine someone I, I love, uh, picking out a ring and me being like, well, it's over now.
Like what? I mean, I guess there are certain like, like if they, you know, the only thing is if they gave me some crusty ass ring that was their mother's they they I'm like, you know me better than that. Like that's not gonna accept that shit. So it's so to me, it's so weird. I don't want to be like fucking your son with your with your ring on that freaks me the fuck out.
Yeah, and I've heard of people who've been able to use and repurpose that scenario, and their wife was into it, and I'm like, dude, you're fucking lucky. No, people love that. Bullshit. People love that. I think it's really romantic. For me, it literally freaks me out, from a sexual perspective. I don't mind it because it's just cheap. Yeah.
Rings are very expensive. I'm not a jewelry gal. I like weird shit. I like like cicada rings. Like I like like a weird antique haunted ring or something. Yeah, no, I like antique stuff too. It can be someone else's, just not your mother's. Totally. Totally. It can be some other dead ladies. Are you very close with your mother? Uh, yeah. Like really, really close? He's Italian, of course. Oh, right, right, right. You are a giant. Julio, yes. Very giant.
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There was no ups and downs. It was just like very, my dad had the same job the whole time. We lived in the same house the whole time. He still has the same job. Wow. A lot of stability. Yeah. And it was like fairly modest. Like, you know, my parents are immigrants. So like there was no like help from their parents. Like it was just sort of like fell on my dad's shoulders completely. And like,
you know, still just was able to like very solidly provide just like a solid upbringing in like a normal town with normal people. Wow. Not a suburb, not near any big cities, like just very, very normal cookie cutter in a way. Yeah. Oh, that's cool. Leaning rural. What did you have any traumatic moments in your upbringing, like in your youth, in your life? Yeah, for sure. I mean like,
Like, I don't know, random shit. Yeah. Like death of a friend or like a car accident or something. Yeah. That kind of stuff. Normal life shit. I did not, like, I was not involved in any of those car accidents. Knock on the floor. Sorry. Super superstitious. You really are. Yeah.
So you're the first guest to knock on the floor. My cat died one time and I felt like it was my fault. But I was like 19, so it doesn't even count as. Why did you feel like it was your fault? I walked outside to smoke weed before I watched a movie. And then I got scared of the movie because I was high. When I went outside to smoke, the cat got out.
And then I heard the cat meowing to come back inside and I was afraid to get out of bed because I just watched the movie. And then I went to fall asleep and then I woke up and the cat was dead. Oh, like it got cold outside? I think I got hit by a car. Did you find the cat's body? I think my parents did. Oh, that's a bummer. That's pretty traumatic. I would say that's one of the most traumatic. That's probably one of my... But all things considered, it could be worse. Totally. That one probably took a minute to...
Did your parents, were your parents helpful in that situation of like, Hey, you didn't know. They did not blame me. Yeah. Okay, good. That's good. They probably don't even know that I still think about this. They probably don't even remember this, but you know that. And then just like, I don't know, normal shit. Like I was definitely like a little bit of a late bloomer. Like I didn't really like, I like didn't get laid until I was like, Oh,
Yeah. Which I think like. That's pretty healthy even though like when you're that young and you're like, I'm a loser. Even though now looking back in your 30s, you're like, oh, thank God. It's probably good. 15 year old sex is not fun or good or enjoyable in any way. Yeah. No one knows what they're doing. I can imagine. Yeah. It sounds bad. Do you want kids? Yeah. I do. How many?
I don't know as many as I could make sense of, but like I, that's giving me a lot of anxiety currently. Oh yeah. Just figuring out how to like reconcile just the lifestyle that I live with being president and like being a active parent. Right. I have no idea how that's going to work. And I think that what I tell myself is I just have to be more structured. Yeah. I already live a pretty structured life as is. So like, why not? Like why, why not? I think it's worth it.
And again, like hedging against scenarios that I assume are bad, even though I don't know for sure. Yeah. I'm like me. If I, I think for myself that I would be unhappy if I never had kids. Yeah. So yeah. Looking into your future, you would feel a little empty. But again, so we, but this is something you and Hillary discussed or no, she wants kids for sure. Oh, okay. But we both are kind of like, how the fuck would we have a kid right now? Right. Neither of us have time. Yeah. Yeah.
And the resources and the money and the, yeah, it's a lot. I feel like people just, when they don't, yeah, I feel like they just like, like, we'll just make time. Like, yeah, they just do it if they want it. Yeah. And I think we, we have landed to that, but we, we've talked about this. So she knows everything that I've just said she knows about. Um, and I think that,
Yeah. She was like the most gung ho about it and like still is, but only recently has been like, Oh wow. Like impractical. The practical application of this sounds really intimidating. Yeah. Like imagining her life as is plus kid is it's a lot. Yeah. It's like thrown upside down in a way. Yeah, totally. Totally. Is she the same way? Is she, she's younger, a lot younger or eight years. Oh, okay. So yeah, a lot younger. So she got, you guys got time. Yeah. And that was also one of my like early courting jokes. I was like, we're on the same timeline. Uh,
You're right. That was a great eye roll. You're right. I loved that. I loved that. Oh, boy. I loved that. One of many cheesy lines that I had. Love. Well, can I add real quick? And I was saying this when I first came in, but I was checking out the mayoral campaign and I was very impressed by a lot of the specifics, like at least on the homepage of like what
which seemed like maybe your key sort of platform topics. Fully agree with a lot of it. I was really impressed with like the stuff about the arts. I think it's like under an underappreciated point. Yeah. Politics don't really talk about like how important the arts are to a city. Yeah. Think about Paris. Like the shopping area like is sacred and like no landlord can just build a fucking skyscraper on top of it. And it like keeps the city sexy and fun. Like Manhattan feels like,
stale to me. It's taken over by corporations. Well, that's the thing. I'm like, I'm like if New York, like a lot of, you know, candidates are running on things that when you look at it, you're like this platform, like this could be any city. And to me, that was troublesome because I'm like, well, that's why New York city is losing.
If people feel that, it's because we are talking about it like it's a regular city and it's not a regular city. And also, whether you're an artist or not, the arts account for so much of the New York City economy that it's good for everyone when the arts thrive here. And just like New York City is...
always been the place where like I remember last summer I was on a boat that was docked off of Brooklyn in Red Hook and there was just a jazz party at 3 in the morning and there was just a live jazz band and everyone was there and we were like drinking and you're like there's so many things that only happen in New York that I feel like if the corporations keep having their stronghold in you know that are going to die away
Yeah, no, I, so I felt that I also thought it was cool. The, the angle of like volunteering gives you like unique benefits. It's like a nice like communal idea. I was like, that's cool. So anyway, I'm glad you, I'm glad, I'm glad you like it, Julia. I'm happy to see you. It's pretty good. It's cool. It's cool to see people grow and keep doing stuff. So, you know, you guys have, and also it's an honor to be on the show. I mean, this is like, you guys are sort of like the first big comedian podcast, uh,
And if, whether or not that's like literally true, like there's an argument. Well, we were definitely the first people that no one who knew who the fuck we were until a podcast. Right. Interesting. Interesting. So anyway, cool to be on the show. Uh, and good luck with, uh, the campaign. Are you politically active? I like how we have little segments of this, of this interview. Uh, fairly like not, not really. Um, I, I have like, I am active in, I don't, I don't know if it's like,
politics necessarily but I have like a charity that I've been like pretty active with and it's been what's charity so I like I started a school like program in Afghanistan oh fuck yeah what that's amazing I was like you say you're not politically active but I mean I think to be extremely you're socially active if you want to frame it like that like you do a lot of stuff for other people
I try to at least. So that was happening and now that has sort of transitioned into now there's like a specific library project. The school stuff was going really well. A couple of the people that we had bringing the money around, like –
had some sort of like prickly situations and they're kind of like got a little spooked about it. And it's really hard to replace that person because you need to do out, you know, well you need to do background checks and everybody cause you can't like just send money to a random person. You might be like violating international law. So there's all this like random shit. So anyway, basically the people who were in the schools, especially the ones that I was, uh,
in charge of, not that I'm overseeing, we kind of absorbed those students into pre-existing schools and now we built, we're building a library. It's built. Wow. That's incredible. Named after Hillary, which I think was a nice thing. Just more so than like the romance, but also because I think it's sort of a nice fuck you to the Taliban to like name. Right, to have a woman's name on the block. Yeah, and also like a smart, like powerful,
powerful woman you know like it's just sort of like vibe wise nice and it's nice to like give these like little girls in the village just like a a tangential like direct connection to someone like that yeah it felt like all good v but us absolutely have you been to the library have you been to the school and i've been to the town i have not been to the library but they just like send me like a video and picture how was your experience going to afghanistan
It was all right. It was really great. It was a little bit off a little more than I could chew, potentially. Oh, yeah? Especially the time that I went. Since I went there, the Taliban have become oddly pro-tourism, since there's no other way for them.
Yeah, so like I wouldn't have wanted to make a video during that time. It was just sort of odd and hard to tell a good story. In my opinion, that wasn't just like self-aggrandizing. I'm like, these guys, they're not that bad. Like, okay, but like, I don't want to make that video.
If that were to be true somehow, I don't want to make that. Let them prove that. So when I was there, it wasn't like that yet. So we just had some kind of like weird Taliban moments that weren't great. Did you meet the Taliban? Yeah. How were they? You're just constantly, there's no way to not be the Taliban all day long. There are, it depends. It's like, depends. There's no way to not meet the Taliban all day long. Yeah. That's another name for your next special. It's basically impossible. That's very interesting.
I think Americans have a very skewed version of the Middle East for so many reasons, the things that we've been fed. And that's very interesting that –
did you have to wear anything? You're a man. So you, so you have, you don't have to, but it would be like insane. Like if I, it would be me not wearing it. It's not even disrespectful. Like me not wearing it would be the equivalent of you wearing like a traditional African dress around. Ah, yeah. You would just stick out like a sore thumb. Yeah. So it's like insane. So like no one would do that. So you just, right. You don't do it either.
But they, and they still, the, the state of girls' rights and women's rights in Afghanistan is still absolute shit, right? Yeah. And they're legally not allowed to get an education still. Uh, they are up until a certain age, but then like once they're like 12 or something, they can't.
And that might be getting worse for them as time goes on. Yeah, I feel like every week there's one new thing that is being revealed that they can't do. Some of it's rhetorical. Some of it, there's a little bit of a gray area where some people do it and they're like, alright, fine. Our official stance is you can't, but you can. It's fine. Even just the face coverings. In some of the bigger cities, women didn't cover their face. Everybody covered their head. It's already a very traditional society in that way, so like
It would sort of be that way no matter who was there. Right. To some degree. But, you know, the Taliban is an organization. It's hard to
for me to argue that there's any positive. Yeah. I mean, they're a terror. They're still deemed a terrorist organization. Is that correct? I don't know. If you're fucking keeping girls from getting educated, you're, you're a terrorist in my head. Yeah. Um, and you know, on a, on a person to person level, like depends which one. Yeah. Some of them were like fine. Weird. Some of them were not. You, you get the vibe a lot of the time that people don't know and they just don't know stuff.
Right. So then you're kind of just like sad about it. You're like, this guy would just be a normal guy if he knew stuff. Yeah. If he was able to know anything, he'd be like a normal guy. Right. And the super nice thing you can do is, is that you can cut off people's access to information. Yes. Yeah. And that is like a, you know, a sad example of what happens when like fucking idiots turn into the people running the country. Right. Um, so, you know, that was sort of the vibe. So,
Like I said, you bump into some 14-year-old who has a gun and who's just really impressionable. And you tell him anything and he'll be like, oh, wow, yeah. I never thought about that before. If you're like, you think this? You're like, well, what if? Why shouldn't they be able to do this? And I watched our guy do this a couple times. And he's like, well, what if this were acceptable? And the person would be like, oh, yeah.
Whoa. Yeah. That easy, huh? That easy. Wow. Like for real. They've never been given the space to critically think. I mean, I think that happens in America too a lot. Totally. I mean, I was just reading the Trump rally. I watch you convert somebody. Yeah. I mean, I was reading this whole piece. I forgot who just shared it, but there was a whole thing about, you know, that that's basically how Fox news works.
their money is they're, you know, they're, they just are so dismissive of everyone else's point of view that they've created this space where to, to believe anything else except for what they're telling you is almost laughable. I mean, it's a very interesting business model. Right. You know, and obviously perpetuated by the fact that the same way that these people over there have this sort of like information vacuum. Yeah. We now all have it to some degree.
Unless you're trying to get outside of it. No, I know. That's what I'm like. I, I, like I, I have my other show as a political show and I spend so much time working to get out of it. But I'm like, you know, no one has, is putting, you know, 10 hours a week into like Googling news stories and like separating pieces of information. Like no one has that extra time.
time to do that unless they're monetizing it somehow. Right. But it's true. Like there's only so many things you can possibly pay attention to. Yeah. So like inevitably insane injustice slips through the cracks constantly. Uh-huh. And yeah, I do think in general it's good to encourage anybody to just be
the like, is it a reputable news source? Like just think about the thing you're hearing and who's saying it. Yeah. Because like I'll get this one guy that I know is like really gung ho about like immigration stuff, which is like a completely good thing to be going home about. But he'll send me these like tick tocks that are like completely unsubstantiated. It's just like somebody walking down the street saying things that are happening. And I'm like, dude, I have not heard about this anywhere else. Yeah. Just FYI. Like I'd love to see this written somewhere. Yeah. Just some guy. You need at least two sources for anything that you're going to bring to the table.
Yeah. And I hope one of them isn't some guy walking down the street on TikTok unless he cited his source. Totally. Because people will go wild and the thing will go viral and they'll go, man. And I'm like, yeah, but the missing link is...
what makes a news source less trustworthy in my opinion is if what the person is saying, um, goes viral and there was like a way for them to monetize it. Like anytime money is involved or the ability to make a lot of money off saying a specific thing is involved already that has gotten, that's like that weakens the argument immediately. Right.
Right. And there's an incentive for people to sort of be bad in that regard. Yeah. Capitalism is going to be the death of us. Of course. So you had been traveling around to a lot of places in the world with your dad, right? No, not with my dad. Just by myself. Wait, but didn't you do some series where you went with your dad? So I went on vacation with my dad.
Oh. And it was funny. My dad had never been really on vacation. Growing up, we never went on vacation. We'd go to Italy and just stay. Just that one immigration and that was it. No, but we'd stay at my grandparents' house and just sit there for three weeks just to see them. In Italy? Yeah.
Oh, wow. For real. That's a beautiful place. It was amazing. But we'd stay in the town for three weeks and we'd maybe go to like Milan for the day one day, but we would just sit at the house and it was great. But like, we never went on like a vacation. Like if we did, we'd go to like, we went to Salem to like do a historical, which was cool or go to Washington DC, but we've never gone to like the beach.
So my dad was like, let's go on a trip. So we went to Costa Rica and in a way it felt like I was taking my son on vacation. That's so cute. So he'd be like, I'm going to go practice my dead man's foot. Am I right, buddy? Don't go out too far. That's so cute. So I've like posted a bunch of stuff when we were doing that because it was just so bizarre to see him like in the wild. So heartwarming. Yeah. He tried to like park at like a,
at a parking lot that was like $10 and like there was supposed to be shuttle. It wasn't, he almost missed the flight. There's just like all this shit like that. And he'd be like, you think those raccoons are still in the back of that truck? I'm like, let's go check. Like, so it was like very earnest, like cute. Well, Costa Rica is so beautiful. It's one of my favorite places I've ever been. It's amazing. Yeah. It's amazing.
And so, but so then you went where, what's the list of places that you went by yourself? Because it was really impressive. You were traveling a lot and to places that are not traditional for Americans to go to. Right. So I kind of got into that. Not yet. No. Um, I would like to go there someday, but probably not anytime soon. Um, but maybe.
Who knows? I'm sure I'm working to get an Italian passport, which may make it easier. Yeah. Um, anyway, so as far as like video content, like I made a video in Rwanda, like cause shit randomly, these like dudes, I've, I've read this article about these comedians in Rwanda and I was like, Oh, what the fuck? Like comedians in Rwanda. And they weren't expats. They were like normal, like not normal. They were like local people. So anyway, I messaged them and they were like, you, you want to come and do a show with us? Like, like, and you're going to, they thought I was like scamming them, which is funny. It was like the reverse of like,
your great uncle in Nigeria has left you. Yeah. So I went and did that. And like a day or two before I kind of had like, I was like, how am I not going to film this? You might as well try. So I brought a couple of my boys, uh, one guy to film the other guy to just like help film. I like wasn't that hands on yet. And we went and had this like really great time where it was just completely different than I expected. And I'm like, why did I expect it to be some way when I didn't know anything when I didn't know? Yeah.
I just made it up in my brain that it was going to be one way and it's not like that at all. So anyway, I became pretty fascinated with that phenomenon. So I, I've started making more and more stuff. So like I did some stuff in South America, um, Iraq, Afghanistan, nice, uh, El Salvador, Nicaragua. Cool. Um, just shows, shows there. I don't know. It's for them. It's usually not comedy related. It'll sometimes will be, but like,
I'm less interested in that specifically necessarily. It depends. It's more like I want to be – like I love being – thinking something and then being proven wrong about a place or a person. I love when people and places prove me wrong. So anyway, I've learned more about –
all of the processes of it, like the techniques and also just like in theory, like what kind of stuff I want to try to capture. And I've committed this year to trying to do way more. I'm trying to like make one long form video a month. Yeah. Yeah. They're like polished. So anyway, uh, I'm,
This is the third month of that. I don't know when this episode comes out, but, uh, this week it'll come out this Friday and then next Friday it'll go wide. So cool. So yeah, I've started doing stuff in like national parks in America and then I want to start going to those. Yeah, it's pretty fucking awesome. Pretty awesome. Uh, and then also doing international shit. So anyway, that's what I'm trying to do. And,
And then, so what it was, did you have a special connection with Afghanistan that you wanted to build a school there? Or did you just feel like, like, how did that come about? Cause that's a pretty huge undertaking. It's a great question. Um, that nobody asks. And I love when somebody asked me a great question. That should be a question that people ask. Yeah. I hear you. I hear you. Cause sometimes like, you're like, how,
And you don't want to be the guy just offering it because you become annoying. Yeah. Like people need to want to know about this shit. Otherwise, if you're like, well, in Afghanistan, like it becomes a lecture. You become a guy. Yeah. Like that kind of guy. No, I mean, that's like an incredible thing to drop. You know, like I knew in the back of my head, my head that you did it. I can't believe that wasn't my first question when you sat down. Totally. No, but that's a really wonderful question. So we were over there and we went to this school that was in a cave.
It was a literal school in a cave, not as sexy as it sounds. Caves are great. They're very... The temperature's consistent and very well defended from the elements. So practically speaking, a lot of things happen in caves there. So it was this little school. This lady was running it. And there was all these girls who... They hadn't made the rule yet about the 12-year-old thing. So there was 14-year-old girls in this class, 13-year-old. And they'd all get up and basically...
They're used to having visitors, so they'd be like, this is what I want to do. And all these little girls who, by the way, this doesn't make it better or worse, but like how talented in general they looked, not just seeming smart, but like some of them were fucking hot. Oh, hot ass 15 year olds. And I'm just like, just, I'm just like, they have so much to offer, including like, this is such a monetizable body. I'm sorry. Oh,
The brain... This took a turn. I know. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. But like, do you know what I mean? Hopefully, as bad as maybe that sounded, but... Well, yeah. You're watching these young... These girls who are about to become young women blossom into a society that will only cover them up in every way, metaphorically and physically. And I would say it like that in the future. Thank you, Christina. I appreciate it. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I know what you mean. I know what you mean. I get it. Anyway, here they are and they're like, I want to be a doctor. I want to be a... And I'm like...
You're not going to be that. That sucks. You're not going to be able to do any of this. This is like really fucked up and sad. So like bum me out. So we're sort of on the trip and somebody who I know gave me some cash to like,
do good with. He's like, whoever, however you can. And it's hard to decide what to do with money in that capacity because you can't just give it out. You'll get swarmed. Yeah. I like that you said, someone I know gave me some money to do some good. Is it the same person who owns that mansion that I visited you at one time? No, no, no. Hilarious, no. Yeah, that's a whole other funny...
I was just like a friend. So he was like, yeah, like, you know, if you can make an impact with this, like, great. I was like, okay, great. So, and as we're kind of going through the trip, I've started thinking about it. I'm like, what's up with like school over there? Like, why do they have school in the cave? And he's like, oh, it's just like a cave is a good spot for it. I'm like, okay. I'm like, are there other teachers in the town? He's like, well, since the Taliban, like not as much, like the funding's different. I forget how he explained it. And I was like, well, how much do teachers make a month? He's like, you know, this much. I'm like, it's not that much. I'm like, theoretically, if we wanted, could we like,
hire teachers and start a school. Like that could be nice. Selfishly. I'm like, I know this will be really nice for the video, but I also thought it was like a nice thing. I'm like, yeah, this is nice for the video. Cause it is a nice thing. So, right, right. So, you know, there was, everybody had something to gain from doing it. So we had this big meeting in the town where we met with all the sort of men in the town,
Were they all Taliban? No. And actually, I don't think any of them really were. Maybe one sort of was, but like, no, it wasn't like a Taliban. They're just dudes. Some of them were teachers. Some of them weren't. And we all had, we had this like Game of Thrones-esque day together where we like sat in circles and like talked and
Yeah. And then there was like, yeah, like deciding what was going to happen. Yeah. And what the possibilities were. Yeah. And they were fine with like, this just American guy wants to come in and build school. Like they were fine with that. They thought it was like the great there. How like sincere these people are. It'll make, makes me want to cry.
Really? They're literally like, my brother Julio. Wow. All of them. And even our DM, not DM, our WhatsApp combos are all like, my brother. Yeah, dude. I talk like that to them. Arab people are fucking heartwarming. Yeah, yeah. It's so funny. I've noticed a lot of connections. When I first moved to New York City, I started having Jewish friends. And I was like, oh, you guys, you're so lovely. There's no way I could come to a Jewish household and not get food, not get a meal, not get a really hearty conversation. Arab households are the same fucking way. Yeah, right, right.
really like loving. It's true. It's true. Afghanistan, same thing. Yeah. But it was more like the Taliban wasn't like, isn't like, you know, so there's, it seems like there's half of the, you know, or whatever percentage of the Taliban is like they are against the
young or women getting educated at a certain point. The men in the town are not. The rest of the people who are not part of the Taliban are like sad about it. So, yeah. Yes. Okay. Yeah. But other like...
People are just sort of used to it also. Well, that happens in any society when you just keep getting treated the same way. You go, I guess this is all I deserve. Yeah. There was a woman who we wanted to be one of the teachers because I was like, I think it'll be important to have female staff. Yeah. Great. No problem. It's all good. Because some of the rules with that stuff too, women can't work sometimes. I don't know the specifics of it now, but at the time it was like they just can't work outside of where they live without a male staff.
which is ridiculous, but they still, they can work. So like there was a woman who we were going to hire and she was like too shy to sit in the circle. And I'm like, I'm like, okay, well like we, like she's in the video. So can you at least tell her to move? Cause optically does not look very good. It's just a woman outside of the circle. Like we're gonna have to move her. We didn't kick her out. Yeah. We'll talk to her after. I know she's shy, whatever. She hasn't been around fucking men without a fucking chaperone. I know. So, um, I think the Taliban were ultimately fine with it, but the problem is like,
you know, they want to know what's going on. So like if, if suddenly there's money coming in and it's not just visitors donating, then they start to be like, yeah, so we got permits. So it's all good from the town. Um, yeah. Um, and yeah, so we were like up and running for a while and then it's still going. But like I said before, like there was sort of an incident and the guy who was, uh,
transporting a lot of the money got a little spooked and he's like, can we just absorb the kids from these schools into the other schools? Cause there was like crossover with the teachers too. Okay. Um, it wasn't like, it wasn't like that as much, but there was like a, an incident like in Afghanistan, there was like a big, there was a shooting, um, uh, of tourists, uh,
Oh, okay. There's all these theories about what happened, but he was in the area when it was happening. I don't know. He got really freaked out, understandably. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Of course. Basically, this tour group weren't wearing local clothing. Oh, wow. And I guess eventually some just old, salty Taliban guy got sick of it and just went and got his gun and came downtown at the time and started shooting everyone. Wow.
So, you know, these type of things happen, unfortunately, like over there, especially it's just kind of like,
In the past. So the library is the new initiative. But the school is, you know, going strong for a while. And I still think that, like, whatever infrastructure we built up, like, we got more people in school that weren't in school. Before they made the rules, we had all-age girls, including women who, like, grown women who were not, like, their husbands didn't want them to learn. But they would go when he was, like, gone to, like, learn to read and shit. Good. Oh, God. Yeah.
It was good. And I wish that there was a way to be more on top of it, but also... You have to have boots on the ground there. Yeah, it's impossible without having boots on the ground. But what will happen is travel vloggers will go and they bring these tours to the school and now the library. And so people will like vlog about it.
And that's how I'll get updates. Oh, good. Which is cool. And then maybe that gets them more funding, hopefully. Well, yeah. Everybody who visits donates usually. And then also it's just a good checks and balances because like I hear what I hear from the people who I'm giving the money to. But it's nice to hear from third parties. Yeah, absolutely. Amazing. Oh, my gosh. That's really that's one of the most impressive things that anyone's ever talked about on this show. Thank you. Yeah, truly. Thank you. It's very nice. That's so cool. Proud of you, man. Thanks. Yeah. Yeah.
Um, and now, yeah, where can people promote your special? Oh yeah. My special is called on the map. That's on YouTube. Um, I talk about a lot of this stuff in there. Um, so yeah, if you just look up Julia Velarati on the map, uh, it should pop up. My social is not Julio. All the links are in the bios also.
Um, and then all the travel videos are on that channel as well. So check it out. Thank you so much for being here. This has been guys. We fucked the anti slut chiming podcast. We'll talk to you next Friday. Guys. We fucked is presented by luminary created and hosted by Corinne Fisher and Christina Hutchinson editing and music coordination by Eric Freddie theme song by Rob Patterson and Jake. Yeah.