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Okay. Let's talk about fucking. Hello, bonus luminary fuckers. We love you more than the other people. How you doing? Welcome to the show. It's the anti-slut-shaming bonus podcast. I'm Corinne Fisher. I'm Christina Hutchinson. It's guys, we fucked, and we can say that because you're a luminary and you're special. Very freeing. Yes, it's very exciting. One thing, though, before we get to the emails really quick, is that I'm looking for your advice, Corinne, frankly, because I was...
I only want to talk about this on the bonus episode, but I told you a little bit about my friend who I love. Woo! Woo!
I keep crying all day. I need to go back to therapy for anger management. I don't know if anybody got any tips, but I, my friend who I talked about on these episodes before, who was in a relationship with somebody who was extremely emotionally and physically abusive. I'm talking choking her during sex. And after she passes out, raping her, I'm talking pushing her when she's pregnant. I'm talking all these things.
one of the worst people I've ever heard of. And it's, and it's, I don't, it's for some reason, like I've never been in an, in a physically abusive relationship. I don't know. I could say, predict how I would act, but I, you don't fucking know until it happens, right? When something is happens to your friend, I, it's easier for me to go and to grow claws and horns. And she told me a new update in her case where this person is trying to get ownership over her and her kid. And, uh,
And says things like in the event of your death, you will still owe me money for this kid. And I had to take a walk in the freezing cold with no coat for 50 minutes to start beginning to calm down. I don't know how – I don't even know. I'm so mad. Like I am – it's like in the back of my head. It's like right there. Like the second I have stillness in my brain, I just keep going.
And I think it's a – it's also a combination of like the women that are dying because of these abortion laws and I just feel like in my head it's just like everything is caving in on itself. Yeah.
And I don't know. I don't know how to function. Well, I mean, I think it's also probably like, you know, anger kind of like keeps boiling when we can't release it through doing something to help solve the situation. Right. Yeah. So it's like, you know, ideally you would be able to, you know, channel that anger into some kind of call to action. Yeah.
Yeah. But because you're not her lawyer, you know, she has a good one. Thank God. You know, there's there's nothing that you can kind of do in the moment. I mean, besides be there and support her. So, oh, yeah. Visiting her, holding her baby. Yeah. That there was no anger in sight. There was no anger from Miles. Oh, my God. It was like I forgot about the situation. Yeah. Ironically, it was half him. So, yeah. So I think, you know, anytime you're angry, you know, it's like instead of, you know,
you'd be for whatever the 50 minutes you took a walk around the block, you know, just like let it, let it go and then be there for her. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Which I, yeah. That's the only thing that you can do right now. I mean, talk to her and, and, and hear what, what she needs from you. Yeah. And when someone tells you what they need from you, I think like the best thing to do is actually respond to that immediate real
Right. Not to then alter it and interpret it as what you think that they need in the moment. I think a lot of people make that mistake. Well, I caught myself making my response to her giving me this news –
about my own anger, which I'm not even fucking involved in the situation. So I was like, okay, we take a step right on back because you got to make space for her anger. If she has it, if that's what she wants to talk about. Um, it's so funny though, cause I heard about this and then the next day or two days later, I drove up to see her with my other friend. We've all been, the three of us have been friends for, for a long time. And, uh, I had the most hilarious road rage incident happened to me. I was driving on 34th street and,
And you girls still got her temper and still it has to be. It takes a lot to get activated, but it's there. And driving is the easiest way for it to get activated. And it was the light was I was trying to go on 34th Street and it was really backed up and the light was about to turn yellow and then and then red. So I just went into the bus lane so I could so I can make the light. And then I waited for a gap to
happen in the cars, like a natural gap of somebody like waiting to accelerate. And I just slid back into the row of cars because if you know 34th Street, there's one lane for cars and there's one lane for buses. That's it. So you're not supposed to be in the bus lane. You get honked at. And so I got back into the apparently the person I cut in front of, but I don't even want to say that because she didn't even have to break.
got very angry with me and all this honking and like incessant honking. And I felt, I felt the anger from the car behind me that not only in the honky, but I just, I was like, Oh my God. I'm like, how's this person really that I didn't even do anything like that's crazy, but whatever. I don't know what her day was like. Then we're at the next stoplight and, uh, she keeps honking at me and I was like, okay. So then I decide to, um, you know, fan the flames of the fire and I just start driving very slow. Um,
Like I'm talking three miles an hour slow. I'm talking just foot off the brake and inching. And then every time she would try to get around me, I would block the lane. And I knew what I was doing. And then the next stoplight, we're stopped and we're waiting for the light to turn. I'm talking to my friend and all of a sudden I see this woman in front of my car with a giant halal plate and she smears it all over my windshield. So it's like rice and sauce and all that. And I was like, whoa.
Oh, what? I'm like, is this from the – no fucking way. And I was – one, I was like – I was glad it was a chick driving. So I was like, yeah, okay, girl. Get that Mercedes. Because it was a Mercedes. But I got – I was in between realms in that moment of like this is so whimsical and hilarious. And then the other realm I was in between was like, oh, it's on, bitch. And so I took – I got out of my car.
And I took some of the rice and I just chucked it all over her car. And then the next stoplight, I took the takeout plate and I shoved it under her hood because I was trying to fuck with her engine. And then she said something about my mom. I mean she doesn't know me, so I couldn't – I didn't take it personal because I know she didn't know me. But I lied and I was like, my mom's dead. And she's like, good. I'm glad, bitch. And I'm like, honestly, me too. She was pretty difficult. And I watched her laugh and then get mad.
that I made her laugh because she wanted to keep his armor up. You're going to end up dying, Christina, in a road rage incident. I know. I know. Someone's going to shoot you. 100%. I don't want that to happen. No, I don't either. That's why I'm mentioning it. It is a demon, man. It's a demon. It's a demon. I'm not saying that as an excuse because I can control it. I just don't know how. I need to figure out the tools. Usually, trying to make myself laugh during it
But I don't know, man. I got to go back into therapy because I don't want that. I don't want to be like taken over by my anger. Because you were so close. You were so close when you're like, when you're like, I don't know the kind of day that she was having. I was like, oh, I hope this is a story about how Christina doesn't have road rage anymore. That's so sweet. Thanks for trying to believe in me. Cut to a halal plate.
that was on her but yeah i can't i i yeah so i need to like now my rage i've gotten my rage to a place where i don't do shit like that to somebody but now for my next trick yeah yeah i'm not going to react when someone does that shit to me that that feels way far in the future but it doesn't have to be i just need to figure it out i need to figure it out anyway therapy it's what's for dinner yeah because like to me i'm like oh i mean it's not it's it's i'm like
it's tier one is what's going, what kind of a day is she having? Tier two is what kind of a life is she having? Sure. You know? Yeah. That's what I think. I think, Jesus Christ, what is going on in this woman's life? In what areas does she feel so out of control that this is what she needs to do? And I wish,
Have that empathy too, but it's like eight miles away in those situations. It's like eight miles away in those situations. It's I don't even know. It's on an island that I don't have access to. Like, I don't know how to get a bridge to the empathy island in my head somewhere. And then to my heart, it needs faster. It needs to be faster. Yeah. I mean, also, you know, you can you can express empathy for people, but also just be like, this person's a fucking piece of shit. Yeah. Yeah.
I do that all the time. It's not like I'm some great person who I'm just like, oh, feeling, I'm not walking around feeling, you know, multitudes of empathy for everyone. I think most people are fucking jackasses, but I think there's a reason that they're jackasses. I don't think they're jackasses specifically to make my life harder. Yeah. And I think, I think the times in my life that I need to employ some curiosity as to why somebody is the way they are, are in moments like that. So that I do not take that rage from zero to a hundred and get myself in a sticky situation.
Yeah, I mean, more so even if you just go about it and think be like, I can't react like this, because I, because I think that I, you know, I think sometimes when we have anger inside us, we believe that we must be the angriest person on the on the planet right now. But that's a challenge you don't want to present to the universe, because you can always find someone angrier who will act out in a way that is more violent, scarier or more detrimental to your mortality. Yeah.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah, word, word, word. Yeah, and then the next stoplight, I gave a bunch of money to a homeless guy because I was like, I got to undo this karma. Why did I throw the rice back on her car? Like, just don't do that, Christina. And I had a friend – usually when there's a person in the car, the odds of me getting anger are very low because that other person's energy is –
It's just calming. It doesn't even matter if they're a calm person or not. And so, yeah. But I've never had – well, no, that's a lie. I have had food. The guy threw a milkshake on my car once. Wow.
Wow. Yeah, yeah. People get pissed on the road in New York City. People get real pissed. They certainly do. I feel like of all the cities I've driven in, Philly included, New Yorkers are angry. Angry enough because of that congestion fee. Yeah, yeah. Well, I will say I am pro-congestion fee.
I am pro-congestion. I know a lot of people are. I wasn't at first because I'm like, another thing is going up. But then you see all the little amount of cars that are on the road and the fact that I can drive across town to get to the podcast studio when the subway doesn't work in 20 minutes. That's a miracle. Thanks, congestion pricing. I think people will be less angry if the money from the congestion fee that's going to the MTA really improves the service. Yes.
That's what I was saying. Subways and buses. My initial rage towards the congestion fee pricing was a reaction to every like Netflix is going up. Spotify is going up. My rent's going up. My my health care. Everything's going up. And so every time one thing goes up, even by a dollar, let alone 13. Of course, you're like, what? But then as a driver, I have less frivolous trips into the city because of congestion pricing. It's good for your life.
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All right, let's get into your emails. If you want to email us, please do. It's sorryaboutlastnightshow at gmail.com. Today's first subject line, my mom has cancer and my friend sexually assaulted me. Help. Okay, okay, okay.
Anyways, I'll cut to the point.
That's so exciting. Congratulations. Evolution is tough.
The problems revolve around me and started about a month ago, and I'm having a hard time deciding if it's fair to my partner. Problem one. Early September, I had plans to go up north to a mountain town to see a band, me and my guy friends, and I like. One of my friends, let's call him Paul, has a huge vacation cabin that we all occasionally stay in. The concert was on a Thursday, so we planned to stay away through Saturday. I drove up to the cabin with my two other friends. We'll call them Dan and Blake.
There were also two other male-female couples I know and am friends with there. I've always tended to have close guy friends, not in an I only have guy friends way. I always invited my boyfriend to come but he couldn't make it with his work schedule, which is understandable. He encouraged me to go as he met all these guys and knows I've been friends with them for four plus years.
I want to preface this by saying nothing sexual has happened with any of this friend group in that time or has ever been implied. We went to the concert, took a small amount of mushrooms. I had a few drinks and I had a great time. When we all got back, we got into the hot tub for a little bit and I went to bed along with the two other couples around 1230. I had my own room that was in the basement and there is also a separate bunk room in the basement that Dan and Blake were sleeping in."
I'm assuming Blake is a guy. I took a rinse-off shower and got into bed naked, listened to a little music to decompress, and went to bed. In hindsight, I should have put clothes on considering the situation. I – OK. Don't blame yourself, please. But again, I've known these guys for years and have been on multiple trips with them and didn't think much of it. I woke up around 4 a.m. to Dan fingering me in my bed. What?
It took me a second to come to it and realize what was happening. And I was horrified. Yeah. Yeah. And please let me just remind you. And I'll probably remind you again. It had nothing to do with you going to bed naked whatsoever. Okay. Dan is a piece of shit person who violated you. That has nothing to do. I don't care if your pussy was out and you didn't have any blankets on.
He can't do that. I immediately kicked him out of the room. I tried to wake up Paul and Blake, but I think they had all been up drinking and neither of them were coherent enough to have a meaningful conversation. Yeah, that's tough. I wanted to leave immediately, but I also knew I had been drinking the night before and didn't want to risk getting a DUI on top of what had already happened. Wait, is Dan one of the friends? He's one of the friends, but he's not one of the friends that was downstairs. Oh.
Yeah, he's just one of the friends. Other two friends. Oh, wait. I drove up to my cabin with my two friends, Dan and Blake. Okay, so he was one of the two friends. Once Blake and Paul were up, I told them both and they took it seriously and handled it well. I hope they fucking...
Punch Dan in the face. I ended up packing up my stuff and leaving. Blake offered to drive back with me, but at that point, I just wanted to be alone. Yeah, girl. I had a brief conversation with Dan, attached text messages. We will get to those. He essentially blamed me and said I came on to him. Honestly, that may be true. Mushrooms in particular... I don't like these excuses you're making. In particular, make me horny. Doesn't matter. I'm also... Yeah, but I think what she might be implying is that, like,
Are she implying, like that, like that you don't remember something that happened and that you were like, so, so like she could have been doing things that she doesn't remember. Like, sure. You know, like that, that perhaps is the conversation here. Maybe in which case it is a good person though. Well,
well, I think it's like you could, they could have started doing something that seemed consensual in the moment. You fall asleep and then you wake up. Oh, Oh, Oh, Oh, Oh, Oh, Oh, Oh, Oh, Oh, Oh, Oh, Oh, Oh, Oh, Oh, Oh, Oh, Oh, Oh, Oh, Oh, Oh, Oh, Oh, Oh, Oh, Oh, Oh, Oh, Oh, Oh, Oh, Oh, Oh, Oh, Oh, Oh, Oh, Oh, Oh, Oh, Oh, Oh, Oh, Oh, Oh, Oh, Oh, Oh, Oh, Oh, Oh, Oh, Oh, Oh, Oh, Oh, Oh, Oh, Oh, Oh, Oh, Oh, Oh, Oh, Oh, Oh, Oh, Oh, Oh, Oh, Oh, Oh, Oh, Oh, Oh, Oh, Oh, Oh, Oh, Oh, Oh, Oh, Oh, Oh, Oh, Oh, Oh, Oh, Oh, Oh, Oh, Oh, Oh, Oh, Oh, Oh, Oh, Oh, Oh, Oh, Oh, Oh, Oh, Oh, Oh, Oh, Oh, Oh, Oh, Oh, Oh, Oh, Oh, Oh, Oh, Oh, Oh, Oh, Oh, Oh, Oh, Oh, Oh, Oh, Oh, Oh, Oh, Oh, Oh, Oh, Oh, Oh, Oh, Oh, Oh, Oh, Oh, Oh, Oh, Oh, Oh, Oh, Oh, Oh, Oh, Oh, Oh, Oh, Oh, Oh, Oh, Oh, Oh, Oh, Oh, Oh, Oh, Oh, Oh, Oh, Oh, Oh, Oh, Oh, Oh, Oh, Oh, Oh, Oh, Oh, Oh, Oh, Oh, Oh, Oh, Oh, Oh, Oh, Oh, Oh, Oh, Oh, Oh, Oh, Oh, Oh, Oh, Oh, Oh, Oh, Oh, Oh, Oh, Oh, Oh, Oh, Oh, Oh, Oh, Oh, Oh, Oh, Oh, Oh, Oh,
I'm also a known cuddler while sleeping, even to my friends. To me, that doesn't excuse him coming in. Okay. Yeah. He came into the bedroom when he wasn't there. I just want to make sure she remembers everything that was going on. Yeah. And it wasn't like, you know, something where she's like knocking on the door, you know. Sure.
Um, to me that doesn't excuse him coming in there or anything. That's fucking psychotic. I also know for a fact that I was asleep because I specifically remember the moment I woke up after that conversation is when I blocked him on everything. I called my boyfriend and told him on the way back. He handled it really well and didn't shame me. I mean, I fucking hope he didn't. My God. Um, you can consider this shade thrown because he deserves it. But if you saw Dan, you wouldn't be worried about your girlfriend cheating on you, uh, on you with him. Oh,
Oh, yeah. He's ugly. Oh, okay.
I see. I see. Just say that. I've, I've since completely blocked and cut all contact with Dan. It really hurts because I was the closest with him out of the group. Well, it's, you know, he was trying to probably get in your good graces for a reason and be manipulative about it. That's the thing. It's like, unfortunately, you know, this is why no grown man wants to be your friend exists. And I, and I hate, and I hate to say it, but it's like, okay, this is, he was the closest with you because the whole time he was hoping that you would think of him as more.
I know it's really upsetting. That is really upsetting. I know his mom and his sister really well, and I'm still in shock that he did that. That friend group was mostly has mostly cut ties with Dan by their own decision, which I've appreciated. But it sucks to mourn a sexual assault and the loss of a close friend. Yeah, I imagine. Well, he was also never a close friend that you're finding out. Right. So you're grieving what you thought you had. He was he was always someone who was trying to get something more and being your friend is some type of a, you know, an honorable mention.
That's a very good way to put that. Problem two, four days after the incident, my mom was diagnosed with pancreatic cancer out of the random blue. So sorry. She was having a pain in her side and went to the doctor thinking it was minor. I'm extremely close to my mom. I live over a 12-hour drive from her. In all the ways my father failed me, my mom was my rock and did both.
She's 65 and completely healthy otherwise, so to say it was a shock would be an understatement. They caught it early, which is rare with pancreatic cancer, and her diagnosis doesn't seem to be all doom and gloom, so I'm feeling hopeful. However, it's still extremely hard to come to terms with. I love my job, but it is stressful and I travel about 75% of the time. When you're going through things like this, it's hard to wake up every day and be a cheery salesperson or even to concentrate complete tasks."
The question, obviously, I've told my boyfriend about my mom and he's been very supportive. After this all went down, I had a talk with him and told him that I'm not sure what the next year will look like or how I will emotionally handle it. I gave him a choice to gracefully exit. No. And that we could leave the door open to see what happens. No, no, no, no, no. You're making a decision for him that he needs to make himself. He looked at me like I was crazy. Good. I'm glad. That's a good sign. And said, absolutely not. Good, good, good.
He's been nothing but understanding and supportive, but I cannot feeling like I'm bringing him down or dump or dumping a lot on him. This is what a relationship is. Yes. You are there for each other. Life is not like good things happen. Then real bad things happen. Good thing. That is, that is how life goes. That's how life goes. I do my best to keep him updated and tell him how I'm feeling.
If I'm having a bad day, but not overly put it on him. Yes, but it's your partner. He's been there for you. He wants to be there for you. Allow him to be there for you, please. Right now, the emotions come in waves. There is good days and bad days and even good moments and bad moments throughout the day. If we had been in a relationship longer, I don't think I would feel this way. But we officially started dating in July. That's a while ago. That's a while ago, girl.
That's more than six months. Uh, this seems like a lot to take on with a girl. You just started dating. That's not just started dating. Just started dating is like a month. Yeah. I think I would feel that way if it were reversed. I went back to therapy and I know I'm handling it all better than I would have even a couple years ago. Corinne has talked a lot about her breakup and feeling like she wasn't contributing to the relationship in the way that she needed to. Uh,
uh, and the way that he needed. And I don't want to do that. My boyfriend, there's a, there's a lot of updates on that, but yeah, my boyfriend is a few years older than me. And so I feel we're somewhat in the same place in our lives and ready to potentially be more serious if it's right. Any advice on how to share with your partner, but not dump and how to cope with a sick parent you love deeply is much appreciated. I've talked to my therapist about it, but she isn't as brutally honest as you two. One last note.
That's cool.
been able to lean on so I thought so he's been he's been there for me through a lot and I have for him around all around it makes me sad I appreciate any advice and feedback I've attached pics my mom and I my niece why not and me and my boyfriend also attached pictures of Dan for the hell of it I know it's a long one but I apologize for and try to keep it as concise as possible and we don't need I mean that I guess is his and then that that is Dan
Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm. Yeah. Gross. I'm so sorry that happened to you. I'm going to – oh, God. Yeah, these are the text messages of him blaming it on her. That's cute. That's cute. Okay. So I have a lot of answers for this. First of all, I mean, yes, your mom is going through something, but that doesn't mean that you stop existing. So I actually –
And you're going to need to, you're not, you're going to need to have a lot of energy to be there for her. Right. And so if you have this secret, it will create distance and heaviness in your heart. Uh,
I say you can tell her. I think you should. I think you should tell her. There actually might be some relief in her that she's able to grieve for someone else in this moment and not just herself. It might actually, in a way, be comforting that she can think of someone else and not just have to think about herself and what's happening to her. I know that's weird, but I think there's a possibility there. Yeah.
Number two, with the boyfriend thing. I mean, I was thinking this before you even got close to the last paragraph where you're explaining it. But yeah, you start the thing because...
You wanted to know if it's fair to your partner, like that's the wording you use at the beginning of the letter. Only your partner can decide what's fair for them. Right. So even in the in the relationship that I was in when my right after my my dad died, ultimately, if.
My boyfriend at the time felt that he wasn't getting enough attention. He should have just left the relationship instead of adding that extra burden to me in a time when I was already going through so much. And I had to dump him on top of that. Right. I didn't need that shit. So and also like part of that was like just an age gap thing. So it's just like he just didn't hadn't gone through that.
types of things in his life. But this is different. Like when you're an adult, it's expected like that your parents will get sick. It's expected that you'll experience death. It's expected that someone, you know, will lose their job or go through something really difficult. Like that's what a relationship is. It's not just the good parts. And perhaps there's a part of you that because you've never really been in like a healthy relationship, as you stated before yourself, you're like, OK, well, I don't want to...
I don't want to ruffle feathers. I'm just going to leave before I have the opportunity for this to go south. But why would it go south now when it hasn't been going south? It's been going well. So this to me seems like a great opportunity to see if this is someone who you could go the distance with. Again, don't make decisions for other people in a relationship. They are adults. And even if you end up hurting them, they have the there.
always have their own free will. They always have the decision whether to stay or whether to go. And if they don't make that decision for themselves, that's their fault, not your fault. That's their lesson to learn. They have to figure that out for themselves. Um, I would also say, I know it seems like you, you're like a traveling salesperson for your job. Uh, I would say, I know you live a 12 hour, uh, drive from your mom, uh,
I don't know what you can do financially or whatever, but like make sure that you enable yourself and give yourself time to spend as much time with your mom as possible during this time. You won't you won't regret that. Like, you know, just go out of your way to spend a lot of time with her, especially if, you know, she's your best friend. Yeah. And I think don't feel afraid to tell her what's going on in your in your life.
People want to hear what's going on in your life. Yeah, I mean, don't make the whole thing about you. She has pancreatic cancer. But like, yeah, you could tell her. That's fine.
And let your boyfriend support you. You're saying, oh, I miss Dan because Dan would have been here supporting you. There's a guy who really wants to support you. You don't need a fucking predator in your life. That guy is facts. And just you have to come to terms somehow. And I know it's difficult with the fact that that guy was never your friend. And that's really hard. And that's really shitty. But he was never your friend. Yeah. So you're mourning the loss of your friend. Do that. No, he was never your friend at all. Yep. And of this end of story. And I'm glad that your your other friends advocated for you. Yes. Fuck that, dude.
This is, yeah. This says, women don't know how hot they are. Hi, ladies. Long time listener. Love the podcast. Keep doing what you do. Please and thank you. I'm not sure if it's needed. Just in case for context, I am British and that could be affecting my perspective. So thought I'd mention it up top. I'm writing in today because I recently had a revelation that both stunned and devastated me at the same time about women and their perceived hotness.
I was listening to your latest episode talking to Jason Salmon and Christina said something along the lines of women know exactly how hot they are. And I actually found out not long ago that this isn't true at all. Oh, so I have, I have a, I'll edit. So a man wrote in to mansplain our own perception of ourselves to us. Also, I, I, I have to listen back to that episode, but I'm pretty sure what I was alluding to is the fact that
Like women know what to do to look hot and we know what to do. Like when we don't give a shit, we are aware of that. Like, but if I want to look good at an event, I know exactly what to do. Look very sexy. And every woman likely does too. Yeah. Possibly this applies more to women who are in the industry where they are in the public eye and constantly criticized out loud by everyone with all kinds of unrequested feedback.
But in fact, so let me give you some more unrequested feedback. But in fact, all the women I know seem to devastatingly undervalue themselves in terms of their aesthetic beauty. This all came about in a conversation with my friend who not to ascribe to what society tells us is valuable about women. But despite being 50 looks, I
I love the language of despite being 50, 50. I was laughing so hard because I was watching SNL, you know, 50 and in Molly Shannon's character, Sally O'Malley, who's 50 and like, where's depends. I'm like, that's so funny to me now being so much closer to 50 because that's such an inaccurate representation of what six, uh, 50 is like, she's more like 70. Like that character to me comes off as like 70 years old. Yeah. 50 is not old at all. Um, um,
But despite being 50, looks fantastic for her age and actually gets regularly mistaken for being in her 30s. Okay. Can we just normalize saying she's hot? She's hot, but she's hot. And I guess what? It's not just because of what you're seeing. It's also the vibe you're picking up on that is hot about this woman. Yeah. I am 31 and regularly make jokes about how she looks hot.
uh my age better than people my age yeah she probably does i have attached pics of us this is from a woman uh as i know you like visuals she is the blonde and i am the other one oh interesting was written it was like written as it felt like a man yeah oh that's not good um wait where are we uh here we go yeah um
So she's a blonde. So we were having a conversation and she made a comment about how she is a three out of 10. And I was absolutely floored that she genuinely believes this about herself. Obviously the whole rating yourself out of a 10 thing is a massively flawed concept anyway. But,
But that is what she said. So I am rolling with it. Well, I mean, that's a three is a low rating and she's very pretty. Yeah. I also think perhaps sometimes when speaking to other women, we give ourselves a lower rating than we really feel in our hearts because there's so much competition between women because of society. Sure. Um,
It would be one thing to rate yourself as a five and say I'm average, but a fucking three when she looks as good as she does and really puts in all the effort to take care of herself physically. That is insane to me. I am someone who, despite society often trying to convince me otherwise, has always had the unearned confidence of a man. Nice. Which, again, is why I thought you were a man in the right. And you truly do. Yeah, we thought you were a dude.
And even during my turbulent teenage years have always had what I believe to be a realistic idea of how attractive I am. So for me, this was a really hard pill to swallow that led to me discussing with all my close female friends the importance of valuing yourself. As a bisexual, I think women are way more attractive than men in general. They put more effort into looking good every single day and take better care of themselves for the most part. And it really shows. Sorry, Eric. I know you take really good care of yourself. No, he does. He's got great skin. Except for not sleeping. And eating candy.
Yeah. After this horrible discovery, I sent every close female friend of mine a message saying that it genuinely breaks my heart that I'm surrounded by all these amazing, badass, beautiful women who can't see their own worth. It has just been another painful reminder of how damaging this patriarchal society is and how effectively they keep women down by not only placing value on our aesthetics, but also downplaying that value itself to sincerely a loyal fucker.
Yeah. I mean, again, yeah, I think perhaps she was giving herself a lower rating so that it didn't feel like a competition between you two. And also because we are, I mean, you hear it on the show all the time. You look on, look on my comments, people calling me narcissistic. Does it, I have personality disorder all the time because people hate to see a woman like herself. They really hate it. And so women pretend that they don't. And if you pretend that you don't like yourself long enough, pretty soon me thinks you actually won't like yourself.
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Let's do it because we have a little running on time crunch. Next email. The internet fucked up my – Okay. I canceled the spot. Okay. The internet fucked up my sexuality. A 21-year-old listener's experience. Hi, Corinne and Christina. My name is Mars. You can use that if you read this. I'm a 21-year-old woman from rural Iowa. Why does it have a question mark after woman? I don't know.
I don't know. In parentheses, there's a question. Yeah, so that wasn't an accident. And I've been listening to your show since I was way too young. I think between 12 and 14. Oh, I think she's making a joke like, is 21 a woman? Got it. I thought it was some kind of like a gender fluidity thing. Right, right, right. Anyway, I would say y'all basically raised me. But as we're about to delve into, there are a lot of things out there that impacted my sexuality in different ways.
I subscribed to Luminary when I went off to college because I finally caught up on all my free episodes and won't go back. I pay for my expensive ass private school, so you know I love your content if I'm spending money on it. Thanks. We appreciate that. Thank you. In short, I love the conversations you two have about being – having on the show about the sexual habits of the younger generation. Hopefully me and my entire email about myself shamelessly can add to that some extra talking points.
So I guess let's start with the likely important fact that I was groomed online for many years by people who presented themselves as boys between the ages of 13 and 17. They most likely were not actually teenage boys. We know now. From the time I was almost 13 until I had turned 18, I was just messaging people on the internet. Girl, same. I was doing that too. And having explicit conversations.
The sort of things parents had nightmares of their kids doing. Once I had sent nude images to someone I had thought was my age, but they ended up taking the images, my IP address, full name, and address, and posted them on hookup sites. Holy fuck. Yeah, that's next level. I didn't have that.
I only found out once my email became flooded with requests from creepy adults asking me to hook up at my local hotel. This is even scarier when you remember that I am from a very rural town. I was in eighth grade and I panicked, went to the guidance counselor and she called my mom. Well, I'm glad you went to somebody. That's good because that's very scary. That was the worst day ever in my teenage eyes. My mom was crying because she was so disappointed in my actions. You didn't fucking know you
were 13 you need a guidance Jesus Christ I mean you might have known that you're 13 your brain is so far from being fully developed
She told me that the situation was my fault. Oh, that sucks, girl. I'm sorry. And then to my internet addicted horror, I was banned from the internet for an entire year. That was probably good. That was probably good. That was a good one. Yeah. All your fault. I think when you're sending nudes on the internet at 13, you actually do need to be banned. And to be honest, if I had the ability to send nudes, would I have? Maybe. Maybe. Sure. You know? Sure. I'm not putting it past me because I just wanted acceptance. And clearly, yeah, that sucks. It was not your fault, though.
That is just one of the many stories from being an underage girl on the internet in the 2010s. But imagine that sort of stuff on top of almost nightly negotiations with an internet friend to convince them not to kill themselves. Oh, Jesus Christ. Boom, you've got the recipe for creating an older Gen Z kid's fucked up mentality. I'm pretty sure said internet friends were also creepy old men in their basements, but potato, potato, potato.
The whole reason I got into sending not at all age-appropriate messages to people who portrayed themselves to be my age was because I had this really funny mission like a few months prior when I was like 12 years old where my best friend and I would go on Instagram and search for porn accounts to report them and get them banned. My bad, y'all. I was a snitch.
I think it was honestly just me being really little and seeing things that made me feel a new way. But I knew everyone around me said it was wrong. So I'd seek – again, you were fucking 13. You were 12. Like this is the shit kids do.
So I'd seek out the bad content, in quotes, take a shameless look, and then hit the report button. Anyway, after I entered high school, I had my first relationship, and we started exploring. I was 14 and a half in Iowa, and you can get a school permit to drive to school and back at that age. What? 14? Wow.
After taking a driver's ed, lots and lots of kids here do farm work, having to drive themselves to school. And even several of my friends worked in high school to help pay off their parents' debts. A whole other beast of an issue around here on top of the incessant alcoholism and methamphetamine usage. It's always good to drive at 14 when there's also incessant alcoholism in the area. Right. It was a lesbian relationship and we meet up.
about an hour before school began to have sex in the parking lot. She refused to be on the receiving end and identified as more dominant. Even in the back of my parents' minivan, we were experimenting with restraints and choking. Honestly, what we were doing in our sex life didn't seem to have much to do with impacting my later relationship with sex than the circumstances surrounding it. She was two years older than me and had several struggles with mental, severe struggles with mental health.
She was in and out of mental hospitals and even broke into my locker during the school day to try an OD on ibuprofen. In parentheses, dumbass. Oh, that's sad. The bottom line was I'd learned quickly that I'd either have an orgasm in the morning before geometry or I'd have to call my girlfriend's parents in panic because she might be actively harming – self-harming or in the middle of a suicide attempt.
Interesting.
For disclosure, I have struggled with self-harm in the form of cutting. Several years clean now. I'm too old for that shit. I realized recently I'd been using risky sex as a replacement for cutting. That makes sense. This habit has led to me having experiences more extreme – experiencing more extreme forms of rough sex for my age and experience like knife play. Fucking loser-ass ex used a parring knife because he couldn't even get his hands on a pocket knife.
Also, I'm thinking of the article, Corinne, that you read a while back about the choking thing. I was molested after my grandfather had a stroke in early 2020. So holy shit, that was something that still affects me. Yep.
Soon after that, I broke up with the aforementioned loser ex who I thought, Corinna Christina would be so disappointed in me about the whole time I was with him. Then I began having reckless self-harm sex to deal, in quotes, with all of the above and subsequently was raped. From then on –
Stuff you don't want to read, which I didn't realize until now. So I'll go – I'll skip ahead. From then on, I've been looking at my own sexual history and horror. I've been going to therapy since I was 18 and worked through – we've worked through a lot of the more recent stuff. I'm in a relationship with a non-binary person and I go to school in western New York. So I've managed to get out of my oppressive hometown. Yeah.
That's amazing because that really does make a difference. And statistically, you are in the rare. So what's the moral of my entirely too long email? The kids aren't all right. Amen.
But the conversations you have every week, Kurt and Christina, will hopefully help us see past our own bullshit. I see sex as self-harm, as a root of a lot of these issues of younger people having more extreme sex. And now that I have begun working on it in therapy and on my own, I really don't have much interest in as extreme sex habits. That's great because you're working through these major feelings and I think –
Sexist self-harm was a way for you to deal with these feelings. What I know about the kink community too is there's a lot of healing going on or can go on in that.
I still love watching BDSM and gangbang and sort of more extreme porn, but I know the difference between fantasy and the real sex I actually find pleasurable. I like when my partner hits me or chokes me on the occasion, but right now I need them to ask first. I would like to be more spontaneous in that aspect in the future, but right now it's simply not possible for me, and that's okay.
My advice for listeners my age and younger is to really take the time to think about the key moments in your sexual history, but also to really listen to the stories of women who have lived more life than us. Stories like Corinne's, Christina's, and the people that you bring on the podcast and give the mic to, along with a really dope-ass therapist.
are what I consider to be the main influence that has helped me come to see these many realizations. Without you and our conversations, these cycles will only continue. Thank you for making our cycles apparent to us as your listeners. Sincerely, Mars. Oh, what a nice email. Thank you so much for sending that. That was really nice. And I so fucking feel for young people right now because my...
I was just searching and searching as a teenager for somewhere to belong because I didn't belong. My mom bullied me. Kids at school bullied me. And I just – I would have fell into the arms of anybody who had their arms open. So I'm very thankful that I did not grow up at a time where I had a camera with a phone on it and access to the internet because lord fucking knows the kind of trouble I would have. Yeah. Yeah.
All right. This one says, Corinne, help me be a fuck boy, please. Long time listener. Obviously love what you do, et cetera. I am writing to you because I came out of a relationship last summer and
And all I wanted to do was embrace a ho phase and fuck around. However, I genuinely struggled and I am curious to get your opinions on why that is. I am a successful, confident, attractive enough 32-year-old female in the UK and I live in a smallish seaside town in the southeast. Ooh, that sounds nice. I don't have a job through which I get to meet new people, so my main option for dating is, unfortunately, to use the apps. I am really not a fan of this but needs...
Damn.
Secondly, I am upfront and honest in my approach, letting people know straight away I am looking for something casual. Yeah, men don't like that. You would think they would. They like that. That usually doesn't go well. Men really like the chase and they don't...
Yeah, they need to feel like they're winning you over somehow, right? And so while I don't really agree with lying to make men feel more comfortable or masculine or whatever it is, I think...
you have to think of this a little bit more transactionally because you need to get what you want. So to do that, you need to approach it in a different way. As a result of this leading to nothing, I am beginning to suspect that even though guys say all the time that they would love to be hit on, actually when you do, they don't like it as they either run away scared or shut down and lose interest. Well, you're less hitting on, like I think they want to be hit on the same way often
oddly enough that women want to be hit on like we don't like when we're just being treated like a piece of meat so actually flip that and they don't want to think that they're just being offered up a body to fuck I think they want you to to actually feel like you're attracted to something a little bit deeper about them yeah that's my hot take yeah which gives me the impression that guys love the chase and the whole wearing women down thing way more than they think no I mean I don't even think that's a secret men do love the chase
They 100% love the chase. I love the chase. Yeah. It's not good. I mean, it's just like, yeah, I mean, it's human psychology. Yeah. And it's also like if we're especially if we're just talking about sex, like it's much it's much hornier than
Like it's not a conjugal visit. You're not going to just like shake hands and be like, hey, you want to fuck? You want to fuck? Exactly. Like you're not just going to show a guy you're gaping asshole like in a porn video. Like that's unappealing in every way. Like you want to have some flirtiness and you want to eventually maybe possibly lead to sex. But like you don't just go zero to 100.
Yeah. And especially in a, in a smaller town, there's just going to be a different mentality. So like part of this are the constraints of the area in which you live a little bit easier to be kind of this fuck boy that you, that you want to be in a, in a large city. Uh, so yeah, like if this is like a small, you know, this is a point seaside town, unfortunately. Yeah. You do have to approach sex a little bit differently. So my question is this for Corinne, how do you successfully be a fuck boy as a woman? Um,
I also like, so this is a different, a little bit different than I thought it was going to be when the subject line, when the subject line was presented to me, I thought it would be more like, you know, I'm emotionally not there and, or, you know, to be a fuck boy, but I want, I feel like I want to be, and I would never try to recommend that to someone to go against your, like your, your own innate nature. But this is different though. I mean, yeah, I think just stop putting it all on the table and,
so out there right like be a little bit coy make the guy be able to chase you a little bit it doesn't have to be much all you have to do is just not have your energy like have your antennas pointed inward and not outward yeah you know this shouldn't be that hard so you're like yeah it is annoying like you kind of just want to fuck you're probably going to have to go on a date but the same way that guys have to take us on dates when they really just want to fuck us like you're going through the same annoyances that these men have to go through to be fuck boys right
Everything in life is a bit transactional. Sure. Because I feel like trying to approach it honestly has gotten my nowhere, me nowhere. Correct. That's not the, that's just not going to work on. I mean, you know.
Maybe men will evolve, but not if we just want to get sex like this is not the time to be doing these experiments. Should I lie or remain vague about my intentions and desires? Yeah, don't lie. You just remain vague about your intentions and desires. Vague is exactly it. The same way men remain vague about their intentions and desires and then we fall in love with them and they go, I just wanted something casual.
Isn't that fun? Is it important to make the guy – but also while doing this, if you sense in the date that the guy really is looking for a relationship, the same way you would want someone to be delicate with your feelings, be delicate with his feelings, right? Even if it's just sex. It's still – that's how you build an attraction towards each other too. Is it important to make the guy feel like he is still the one doing the chasing or
I think a little bit. If so, I mean, the only thing is like if you if you're interested in having sex with men with feminine energy, you can do the chasing. But it seems like you're not right. And that's true of many heterosexual women. So that's where you're getting that dynamic from. If so, how do I show interest without making the first move?
I mean, just be flirt, like casually touch him with your hand when you're talking, stare at him across the room, touch your hair, let your, your leg accidentally hit his when you're talking to each other at a bar. I mean, this is,
Just tuck your hair behind your ears as you, you know, look at them with little doe eyes. Yeah. I mean, just like that, that kind of a stuff. I know I've targeted this at Korean, but I would of course love to know all your thoughts on this. I mean, look, I, when I am single and I see a guy that is attractive, uh, usually I know my body and my brain. I go, yeah,
Depending on what I'm, you know, you could be in a phase where you're looking for this in your life and then something completely different shows up and then you enjoy that too. So kind of thinking ahead in that, you know, you might just want casual sex. Yes. So that's, that's what you're leading with. But like, you know, maybe it'll turn into something. So just treat it, treat it.
Treat it as an art. Flirting is an art. It's very fun. It's very fun. But I've hit on guys before because I was very attracted to them observing them in the wild. That's kind of my favorite thing to do is I want to observe the guy and then ask myself if I'm attracted to him. And yeah, I've asked guys out on dates and then the dates have been atrocious and then I'm like, well, I thought it was hot and now I don't. So you just kind of got to move on with it. But I just think it's fun to be a little mysterious sometimes.
it's fun and it's flirty and there's like an art to it and everybody has their own way of flirting which i think is amazing so like find your flirt yeah this transactional stuff only kind of works with either people who are actually like usually like bad guys who are probably a little bit dangerous to be around like if the transactional thing works too easily on them or if you have a pre-existing uh
friendship with a man who you are attracted to. Oh, that's the best. You can have this kind of sex with them because if you have like, because you're able to have an open conversation and agreement, but outside of those two options, this is very difficult to have. And also kind of an unneeded space because if men just wanted transactional sex, they could just hire a sex worker and that would be easier and probably could get the exact aesthetic look.
you know, that they wanted quite, quite frankly. Yeah. You know, on demand on delivery. But like, yeah, if you're going to like, my theory is, I think we have a little bit of a loophole with dating because we're standing at committee, you know, doing standup comedy. It's like, well, if the state's bad, I'm going to get a great bit out of it. And I, I honestly genuinely think that. And so I'm also curious about humans. So like, I like getting to know people and if they suck, I'm, I'm interested in, in, in just knowing why they suck, but then not, you know, having sex with them or dating them. Um,
But I think like you need to make this fun for you. It needs to be fun for you. Okay. And there's that still might mean you're going to feel nerves and get nervous or not sure what to do. But like, have fun. Don't take it too seriously. Have fun.
All right, last email. Tinder hates bisexuals? Hello, my queens. Love you both. Talked to you in person and on livestream multiple times. Fan from two to three years after you started. Regrettable to me that I wasn't a full OG fan. Well, that's all right. We'll take you when we can get you. I recently made a Tinder profile for a bi female. I was given mainly only male profiles and some scattered trans or female. Also annoyed you can't yet list as pan, sexual, or other on Tinder. Separate problem. Dumb.
I then disclosed with my younger sister that is also bi. She stated that it was some fucked up algorithm and they weren't showing 50 out of 50. They weren't showing 50-50 and were pushing you towards male encounters. I love my sister and she's smart, so I immediately switched my profile to only women. There were hundreds of thousands of women I didn't see because I was listed as bi. And to Tinder, that's straight.
that needs guidance and to Tinder that's straight that needs guidance. I'm very upset. Can you look into if Tinder fucks over the bi community? I mean, I think you just answered that question for yourself by your experience, especially worn women. I also wonder too if men are more likely to spend money on Tinder if they're just catering to whoever's paying money.
So if the men are paying money and you're listing yourself as bisexual, interested in male and female, maybe they're going to give a preference in the algorithm to the person – to the user paying money to be on the website.
the app, especially worn women. They deserve to be seen. And until then, I'll have to be a lesbian on Tinder as I as I still see some male profiles for me to watch with. Yes, I still only see probably one male profile for every 15 of the women, even as with only preferring women now to no men, you know, in case those lesbians maybe decide they want dick.
Tinder is not LGBTQIA+. Fuck you. Nobody wants that D that bad. Sorry. Update after switching to only preferring females and still receiving male profiles. I promise not trans. Full male. I also got denied swiping on female profiles. This never did work.
Never did when I swiped a male. Asking to sign up for more than five swipes and to pay for this. So being a lesbian should cost, according to Tinder. This is crazy. Please read my email. I need to know if the bi community slash LGBTQ plus community is seeing this also and why.
I feel like this might be one of these instances where you feel like you're being attacked for being bi and it's really just the algorithm responding to what previous bisexual women have done. Oh, maybe. I'm guessing... That's my first thought is that a lot of times when...
uh, people choose by, they are old. So they, they end up interacting more with male profiles because like they are open to women, but they're more engaged and still more interested, um, in men because we just see that a lot. I mean, you know, I know, I don't, you know, I know it's can be like a dangerous trope, but most bisexual women I know are, um,
when they're in relationships a lot more times, it's with a man than a woman. And so I think this might just be the algorithm or even the people who have, you know, curated Tinder responding to that, which is also unfair for people who are like you, you know, truly 50, 50 and truly want this selection of men and women. And then also I'm sure there's like Christina said, I'm sure there's something that has to do with money. Yeah. Cause they're always, I mean, it's business talks.
It's a business. It's the one thing I know for sure. I don't actually feel like it's something anti-bisexual or like they're trying to tell you, we know what you need. But I think they are going off of perhaps what the majority has positively responded to, I'm guessing. Yeah. So don't get mad at them just yet. Yeah. But give me more data and maybe we can get mad at them. Yeah, absolutely.
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