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Hey, you a slut? Yeah. Okay. Let's talk about fucking. Hey, everybody, humans of the world. How are you today? Welcome to another episode of Guys, We... It's the Anti-Slut Shaming Podcast. I'm Corinne Fisher. I'm Christina Hutchinson. And guys, remember that you can still sign up to get all of our bonus episodes plus the regular episodes early today.

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slash GWF promo or again go to the top of the guys we fucked show page on Spotify and tap that exclusive benefits banner that's easier than half of y'all skincare routines I think welcome to the show as you know I'm running for mayor of New York City Christina Hutchinson is my campaign manager we have been spending literally every moment of our lives every every every moment our eyes are open we were working on this campaign

God bless everybody. I've never been to more Zooms in my life. Right. So many Zoom meetings. I go, is this what people want? Is this how you elect a public servant? Yeah. It's really when you know you got to go back to therapy for ADD where you just start like doing this during a meeting. You're like, I got to stop. What the fuck?

yeah so uh if you want to donate or volunteer again thank you to everyone who has donated we've seen every single one of your names yeah the the listeners uh of this show have been so wonderful and i appreciate it so much um you guys are now i like you more than um a lot of my friends well it's funny it's so disappointing when your friends don't like support you in this well like i

they feel like they don't like need to or I think like I think part of it is like people truly don't understand how dire like how important donations are to a political campaign. Yeah, you know and they're like, oh, well, she has all those listeners like she doesn't need my money. Yeah, and I'm like, but it's more than that. It's like a show of support. I will say this weekend a couple of my really close friends who I've been like

In like, I'm not talking to you again. Just been like, where's the donation have contributed? Good. Good. I just need to see their name. It wasn't the amount of money. It was just like I needed to see their name pop up. Yeah, that's all it was. I have a totally new appreciation for anybody asking for a donation to a political campaign.

Yeah. It's wild. You guys have been really incredible. I appreciate it so much. If you've been thinking about it or if like you want to, but you just didn't get around to it. Now is the time we're in the middle of petitioning. We need all the financial help we can get.

If you are a U.S. citizen only, because if you're not a U.S. resident. U.S. resident. You don't have to be a resident. Oh, that's great. So U.S. residents. Unfortunately. All my Canadian friends were able to donate because they're residents. Oh, good. Good, good, good. Okay. I'm glad. But yeah. And if you live in New York City and you're a registered Democrat, come volunteer with us. We have three more weeks to get, let's just say 7,000 signatures. That's a lot of signatures, but we're making it fun. And it's surprisingly really lovely to talk to the people on the streets. Yeah.

and get signatures. And it's like, it also is making me appreciate...

money in a different way because like every like some people are volunteering like I only got five signatures and it's like dude those five signatures are so important you have no idea like every single signature counts every single dollar counts yeah and um and also volunteering for a political campaign is a really good thing to put on your resume a mayoral New York City mayoral campaign come on like I there's so many jobs where that would look good on your resume so I there I think there's other ways to think of value like the the

internship and volunteer experience I have has always been the standout parts of my resume. And so if you're not going to do it for me and Christina, do it for you.

And that's what people want to hear. How is this going to help me? This is a really cool thing. There are so many members of my staff who just wanted to be involved in a New York City mayoral campaign. And that's why they're working for way under their rate. And also, I think they're excited because it's a different kind of campaign. So there's been a lot of attraction to the campaign because of that. Because they're like, I've just worked for the same type of candidate.

time in and time out. And I'm so excited to work on something that is going about this in a different way. And that's really why I'm running. I'm like, let's see if we can do this a different way because we can't just keep doing things the same way because we will, we will yield the same results. And the results, same results are bad. They're not, they're pretty bad. They're not great. But we're not going to lose hope because what we are going to do is channel our rage and frustration into Corinne Fisher's campaign for mayor of New York city so that we could actually make a difference in

We have the opportunity to make a pivot in the way politics is run in America. And I know that's a really big thing to say, but the mayor of New York City ain't

It ain't a tiny position. OK, so there is a real possibility here. Every dollar you donate, every hour you volunteer is being spent towards this pivot into leading with compassion and empathy and leading with what do people need that they're not getting and how can I help them get that? And just leading with heart. My God.

another dude who's power hungry, who grabs tits. Like, we don't need them anymore. You're done. You guys are done. Stop. Yeah, we talk about... Yeah, they're like, all these people, like, have so much political experience. I go...

Okay. And what have they done with it? Yeah. Bad. I was like, I was like, I have less political experience, so I don't know how to manipulate the system. Corinne Fisher for mayor. Yay. I think that's a positive. I think it's a positive. I go, I'm doing everything by the books because it's the only way I know how to do things. Yeah. Yeah. I'm an idiot over here reading all this stuff on the board of elections website and the campaign finance board. And then everyone's like, no, no one follows that. And I'm like, what? Right.

And I go, well, I thought that's what I was supposed to do. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I'm here complying legally like a fucking asshole. Oh, and also I guess because we're, well, let's just do the mayor thing now. Um, yeah, but I did, I did want to, so like there's a weekly update every, every week and I give an update here and I try to make it do a different update on without a country, obviously on without a country. I'm doing more of like the, like the legal and political minutiae. Um, but,

But for this weekend, my takeaway from this weekend is I just want to say thank you so much to the LGBTQIA plus community. You know, there was a time there when Roe v. Wade was overturned when you guys, we were in a little bit of a rift. Okay. Yeah. Maybe it was like one sided. You probably didn't know that I was there.

I'm sorry. I talked about it a little bit here. I do feel I did feel a bit abandoned by a community that I had always really liked.

stuck my neck out for um not that i deserve an award i mean you you gay people deserve human rights it's not like i deserve an award for saying like hey maybe we should treat people like humans um but i just felt like man this is a i just don't feel the gay community uh you know especially gay men really uh supporting uh women's reproductive rights and it upset me but i

Even though you weren't there for that time. Bygones be bygones. It's okay, girl. Yeah, let's let bygones be bygones because... It's okay, girl. I went to so many gay spaces, specifically drag shows this weekend to petition. And some really amazing queens. Shout out to Vicky DeVille and Nikki O and Izzy Uncut and Bojangles for...

me a couple minutes of your show time to talk to the people in your audience. You all have been amazing and your audiences have been amazing. And I, you know, cried in the darkness before I got signatures at both those shows because I was just overwhelmed with how supportive you were and how, and how much you understood that politics needs to change. And I think it's because these are communities that have really had a fight for their rights. Um,

and really understand the significance of having advocates in public office for you. And so that's why I felt that love and I felt that support. And I had people lining up to sign my petition. And I had a young man come up to me and he was like, my sister was raped in New York City and I would really like someone like you in charge. And he signed the petition and he donated. And I was like, what a lovely person.

brother to have. Um, and what a, and what a, you know, simple but powerful reason. Like it was like, there's like this one point reason why you want someone who's not a sexual predator, uh, to be in control and not just not a sexual predator, someone who is ready to fight sexual predators. Um,

Wouldn't that be nice? So, yeah, I just wanted to take time to say there have been a lot of negative parts about this experience, but there certainly have been a lot of positive parts to this experience as well. And it has really...

Yeah. It just reminded me how much I, I love the gay community and why I spent basically all of my twenties at drag shows and in, and in gay bars. And, and thank you so much. Yeah. Yeah. Well, I was there on Saturday. Who was the queen that you knew that was hosting? That's Izzy. That's Izzy. She was, they were amazing. Izzy and Cub was the drag queen, um, that was on, uh, without a country who talked about drag when there was all the drag bands happening. Um, we love Izzy. It reminded me when I went down, I went down to the, that drag show in between my spots on Saturday night. And, uh,

When I got there, it was just... I was re-reminded how...

beautiful of a space a drag show venue is. Like, it is just filled with people. It's so joyous. It's like a Beyonce concert every drag show. It's so fun. And funny. Yes. Well, I mean, drag queens, like you said, famously all the time on this podcast, some of the funniest motherfuckers you will ever meet in your life are drag queens. Yeah, anytime, like, in an interview when people have asked, like, who are your comedic influences, I'll be like, Kathy Griffin and drag queens? Yeah, yeah. And there's good reason for that. And it's like, man, drag shows are such an exciting environment. And I remember, like,

every time I break up with somebody, I go to drag shows and I'm like, this is a really safe space. And the, and the speech that Izzy had when she brought you up on stage was so like, I could, I almost cried. Cause I'm like, wow, you really get it. You really do get the importance of the moment that we're in now and how vital it is to be supporting leaders with a heart.

And yeah, I had great conversations with everybody who was lining up. So it was really cool. Yeah. And so and if you, you know, if you're in New York and you want to go to drag shows, highly recommend going. Nikki O does a show, multiple shows in Brooklyn. You can follow her on Instagram. And Izzy Uncut does a show every Saturday with Bojangles at Playhouse, which is in the West Village. Great venue. Really like exquisite performers. Truly. Yeah.

All right. So let's get to the the fucker mailbag. If you want to email us, it's sorry about last night's show at gmail.com. This subject line says teacher slash pro MMA fighter rooting for Corinne Fisher.

I feel, see, this is like this. I literally took a pivot from the entertainment business because I was so fucking sick of talking about myself. And I'm like, I, now I'm just like talking about myself so much more. And I'm like, I want to talk about like how we can help the people of New York City. Not me. I know you'll be able to do that soon. I'm like, when do I do that part? Like people need

Hi, Kurt and Christina. I'm so excited to be writing y'all for the first time. I've been listening since about 2019 when I first moved to Saigon at age 26. I was telling a friend about how I was struggling with monogamy and questioning traditional models of relationships. She recommended Guys We Fucked, the anti-slut-shaming podcast, and I've been listening and laughing with you fuckers ever since. A little about me...

I'm from a small town in Georgia, got my bachelor's in English and a master's in teaching. And I married a Greek guy. Let's call him Khan, who I met in London while studying abroad. We talked over Skype for about a year before he came to visit me in the States on a three month visa. Three months later, we confirmed every suspicion our family and friends had about us being young and dumb. We got married. I highly recommend never getting married for citizenship. Yeah, you get married for love. Come on.

I don't know why you get married. I don't know why you get married either. I'm not sure. Somebody tell us. Yeah. I don't know. Has it ever gone well? I don't know. Maybe. I think I just get married to someone who like you maybe like you're like you really like, you know, you really like them. Good buddy. Yeah.

The love might be too much. I think it might be. Anyway, Khan hated the U.S. and didn't want to live here, even after all the trouble we went through getting him a green card. Me, being the problem solver I am, thought, okay, you hate the U.S., let's move. So we did, straight to China. Uh-oh. Okay. We moved there? It's an interesting choice because it's the easiest place to get a teaching job with no experience or qualifications. China, get a teaching job, no experience, no qualifications. Yeah. Yeah.

I got him a TEFL certification online. And before we knew it, we're in China. Oh, no. And then we got scammed by our employer. Damn. Oh, no. Doggy. Because of China's complicated visa system, leaving that job wasn't simple. And it also turns out if someone is shitty in a good situation, they're going to be shitty in a bad one. Oh, no.

Interesting. That's a good point, though. That's when I realized I had married a fucking mama's boy with zero survival instinct. Khan offered nothing but complaints and no solutions 100% of the time. Damn. I broke up with him and soon after I had to leave the country due to visa issues. I had heard good things about Vietnam and thought I'd give it a shot.

So there I was in Vietnam with no money and no job. Hell yeah. Girl dinner. Girl life. Girl dinner is being in Vietnam with no money and no job. Yes. Delicious. Relying on the kindness of strangers. I made a Facebook post explaining

I landed a job in Saigon...

within two weeks and it's been smooth sailing ever since. It's really hard for me to say Saigon without like the entire score of Miss Saigon running through my head, which is such a good musical. Truly one of my favorites. Because every time I say it, I'm just like, the heat is on in Saigon. The girls are hotter than hell. It's so good, guys. See it. A few months after moving here, I picked up martial arts just for fun.

and to stay fit boxing first then muay thai then jujitsu oh shit now along with being a full-time teacher i'm a professional mma fighter and pro grappler yeah teaching gives me evenings weekends and summers off and i've made the most of that free time teaching is really good if you want to make a difference but also have like a cool hobby but you're this is not even a hobby you're professional yeah i mean i guess if you want to have two careers you know

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MMA is brand new in Vietnam. Its first national and legal MMA tournament was in 2022. I joined. I won. Yes, girl. Yeah, you did. Yeah, you did. I became the first ever women's band tam weight MMA champion in the history of Vietnam.

Okay, girl. Happy International Women's Month to you. I'm undefeated 4-0 and will defend my title for the second time this year. Now, why am I telling you all this? Because it's cool as shit. It is very cool. I'm impressed. That's honestly, if you ended the email there, I'd be like, hell yeah, man. Thanks for writing. Hell yeah. Because hearing that Corinne is running for mayor of New York City made me so fucking ecstatic. Yeah. Hell yeah.

Yeah, this, you know, this is why so many people have like this young woman who was like in her 20s came up to me at the drag show that you were at. I think maybe after you had to go do your spot. But she's like, she came up to me and she's like, I signed your petition. And I just want to say thank you so much for doing this. And I was like, you know, let's let's hope after it because my hair is going to start falling out soon. And I look at both. So I just think.

I'm like, I haven't seen my skull, but we'll see. I know you never know. It's a huge risk. So, and then I'm just like, these are the moments. Yeah. This is why we do this. Well, that's what I want to do. I just want to go just take, do try to do, take big risks, do big things. You know, um, I've, uh, made the best of my hand in life. My childhood was rough. My marriage was a joke. My career took an unexpected turn that left me broken, a foreign country. Oh,

but I figured it the fuck out. I love when I see people recognize something about their lives or the world they're dissatisfied with and decide to fight to make it better. I believe Corinne can and will do that for New York.

Corinne, you've made me want to believe in government again. Wait, make America want to believe in government again. It's hard. It doesn't have a ring, but I get the sentiment. It's hard because make America great again really does roll off the tongue. Yeah, that's why you stole it from Reagan. Yeah, and I was like, every time...

You know, you want to do a play on that. You're like, oh, that would be so good. I know. I know. That is no small feat. As a teacher, I am so fed up that I can't even work in my home country without fear of being shot or being criminally underpaid and undervalued. I'm so glad you brought that up because that's part of my platform. Thank you so much. Teachers will also be paid more to work in underperforming schools. Corinne Fisher for Mayer. Yeah.

Because if the work is harder, the pay should be higher. Isn't that crazy? This seems simple, guys. That's girl math. This seems simple. But a lot of times it's like the teacher's union getting in the way. They're like, everyone should be paid the same. And I'm like, well, if we're talking about- All right, Carol, stand up and tell me how your day is. And then we're going to have Susie from this underperforming district tell me how her day is. If we're talking about fairness, that's not fair. Right. God. God.

Gosh darn it, you guys. Decret Fisher for mayor. Gosh darn it. I really don't think so many things aren't fair. I know. Meanwhile, Vietnam, a country bombed to hell by America, welcomed me with open arms. Here, I earn a salary comparable to teachers in the U.S., but the cost of living is a fraction of what it is back home.

This is why I can afford to donate to your campaign. I have built a secure, happy life where I can invest in causes that matter to me and explore my passions. I want that for my fellow Americans, and I believe you will be one to start that process in the city that needs it most, New York. Keep shining, ladies. And I cannot wait to watch Corinne make all her fellow candidates squirm in their overpriced tailored suits. Just you watch, baby. I wish they were overpriced tailored suits. Honestly, I never met a worse dressed group of people than politicians.

But I get it now because you're so tired all the time that you're like, I can't steam that. Yeah. I can't get that. I don't have time. People always ask if I'd ever go full time with fighting. The answer, no, because I love being an example for my students. I probably would have stopped competing years ago if it weren't for them. They see me endure rigorous training, brutal weight cuts, constant dieting and balancing work with my hobbies. I keep going because I know how important it is for them, especially for my girls to see a woman knocking heads and

Thanks. We just got to unearth a lot of bad things about everyone else running. Don't worry. We're about to. Which did happen. Like I woke up today and there was something bad about the controller. Oh, really? Yeah. Yeah. Hell yeah.

the controller, which is, as we discussed on without a country, a lot of people say com controller. It's actually just controller. I say controller. That's who I'm. That's a, that's a different thing. Yeah, it is. Um, thanks for being a role model to me and to regular ass people everywhere. I'll be watching you crush it. They may not know you now, but I know you'll make them remember you all the love, uh, Chelsea. If you're interested, you can watch my fights on YouTube. Oh,

my god that's so exciting yeah look at these pictures she sent her instagram is chelsea but c-h-e-l-s-e-y she said dot machete okay yeah look at these fucking photos these are bad look at this chick look at that chick oh my goodness yo what the fuck whoa

That's so badass. That really is really cool. It's just, it's incredible. Really great photos too. I don't know that I could handle, like I have so much rage in me that I'm like, oh, I should try like a jujitsu MMA class or something. But then I'm like, if anybody hit me, I think my initial reaction would be violence in a way that's not allowed. Yeah. I don't like physical altercations. Yeah, I don't really either. I only like verbal ones. Oh.

I don't like those either. That's why I'm running for mayor. I just like crying. Oh, thanks for writing in. And guys, if you are a musician, if you are a musician, you have a band, you have songs, and you would enjoy if we played them on Guys We Fuck between the intro and the guest segment, please send them to sorryaboutlastnightshow at gmail.com. I want a streaming link and the subject line to say music GWF. Something about music so I know to forward it to Eric because otherwise I don't know to forward it to Eric.

Right. And I'm going to forward it to him and he's going to get in touch with you and then we'll include the credits. We'll include whatever social media you want on there in the description. But we need music submissions. So sorry about last night's show at gmail.com. And while we're here promoting, April 10th, 11th, and 12th, Baltimore, Maryland, where are you at?

Let's hang out. The Port Comedy Club. I will be headlining that Thursday, April 10th through Saturday, April 12th. Five shows total. Let's fucking go, baby. And then Naples, Florida, April 24th. One night only. I am headlining Off the Hook Comedy Club. All of these tickets, links for these can be found if you want to sign up for my Patreon. That's also there at the link in my Instagram bio at Christina Hutch.

All right. And then if you want to get keep up to date with not just mayoral politics, but also national and international politics, make sure to listen to Without a Country. We live stream on YouTube every Wednesday at 9 p.m. Eastern time. You can call in, talk about whatever it is on your mind. You can email me a headline that's bothering you or a local headline from where you live that I might have missed at withoutacountrypodcast at gmail.com.

It's just a lot of people have said that the show either made them want to vote for the first time ever or enabled them to have conversations with their family members who have different political and social beliefs than them and also enabled them to take in information with a more critical mind. That's all. I'm not trying to...

you know change your whole perspective I'm trying to just broaden your perspective right I think especially like a lot of left-leaning people listen to this show and I think sometimes we can get stuck in a bubble um and think and there's this like there's this like stench on on the on the left that is like we're always we're on the right side of history and like we're the good people and the other people are the bad people and I that doesn't work I just don't think that's

So like, yeah, I mean, yes, I think there are, you know, like MAGA people at the top, you know, like Elon Musk and Donald Trump, who are actually trying to become the kings of the United States. But I think overall, most people who participated in the 2024 election are just people who are really struggling and want things to be better.

And I think it really is that simple. And we really overcomplicated it. People want to be able to take care of their families and pay their rent and have access to education and healthcare. And once you handle all that stuff, you can expand your worldview and start caring about other people. So if like the world feels selfish and if the world feels angry, I think that's why, because if you can't make it past those initial steps of taking care of your, uh,

family that lives under your roof, there is no thinking about anyone else because you're not able to survive. And so that's kind of, you know, what we're talking about on without a country. And then what I've turned into a campaign for mayor, because I think the democratic party has left lost sight of that somewhere. Whereas the Republicans, uh,

Even though some of their messaging is possibly evil, I think that they have agreed on messaging. And so we need to start agreeing with each other if we want to see movement. Just a thought. Speaking of seeing some movement. Yeah. Speaking of talking out. Yeah. When the world's against you. What an episode. Guys, very excited. She was...

The first woman to publicly accuse disgraced Governor Andrew Cuomo of sexual harassment after working with him as a government aide. She's a lot of things, and I'm so excited to get to know her. Ladies and gentlemen, please welcome to the show, Lindsay Boylan.

Guys, we are here with Lindsay Boyland. So happy to have you here. Oh man, so much to talk about today. A lot to talk about. Oh my God. I love your style of just everything. I love how open you're being and how you're not taking this shit and how you're being very vocal about it. And I was watching a docuseries on Netflix about cyber sexual crimes and all the women ended up having to go to court and they had to watch.

their nude photos that this guy illegally shared. All the jury had to see them. The male judge had to see them. Coming forward with this shit is so not easy, but what you are doing is you are paving the way for so many people to not be afraid. So fucking thank you for that. Thank you. Thank you for bringing this conversation together because there's nothing more important to me right now. Oh, absolutely. We will not stop talking about it until sexual predators stop running for office. Thank you. He is so...

fucking creepy. It's disgusting. And I, like I, the amount of footage I've watched of him and just, just trying to research and get an understanding. I'm like, this guy, talk about getting the ick. Like, and the reports, Craig and I read all the reports, the Letitia James report. And then there was another one. There's like new ones. Like he's harassed a lot of people. Department of Justice did, the Biden Department of Justice did a report saying, yes, he actually harassed another unnamed victim that we don't know about. So. Ah,

Yeah. And this is Andrew Cuomo we're talking about just in case the intro gets separated from the interview. Andrew Cuomo is the man of the hour in a very bad way. Looks like a sandcastle that got hit by a hurricane. Yeah. He's very creepy. And I was reading, you know, more articles last night and there was another woman whose, I guess, husband worked for him and he hugged her with an erection twice. Oh my God. Oh my God. Yeah. You don't.

Men, you don't hug a woman if you have an erection. Or if she didn't say that you could hug her. That's true too. Like keep your dick in your pants, man. I just don't get why this is so hard for people. But there's this power hungry nature that all these motherfuckers have in common that is –

is disgusting. I would even say, you know, I don't know who said it, but in the last 24 hours, he would give people hugs and some of them were interpreted purely as a power play to say, I have, I have authority over you and I don't want to get into his fucked up mind to understand what he was trying to do, what he is trying to do when he's constantly being a predator. But no doubt there's an element of just power that's involved in that and subjugating particularly women.

yeah, man, he feels like he like has an ownership over women's bodies in a way that I'm like, we do not want this man running anything. Oh my God. I don't even want him running a PTA meeting. Well, it's certainly not a PTA meeting. I wouldn't think. Uh, so let's start at the beginning. You're working for Andrew Cuomo. Sure, sure, sure. So I spent my career mostly in urban planning, uh,

And then I eventually moved into government directly. I had been managing public spaces, public finance, and those types of things after business school. And I was so excited to work in government because I've always been interested in it. And I was particularly excited to join the Cuomo administration at the time because this was the group that was standing against supposedly Donald Trump. This was one of the big...

uh, places where people were saying not in our state, not in this time, not in this place. And so I was proud of that. Um, I worked for the administration for, I think a little over three years. I've kind of blocked out some of the timing and the dates, um, as we all do in difficult moments. But, um, I started working for the economic development agency. And over that time I got closer and closer to, uh, uh,

you know, the cesspool that is working directly for Andrew Cuomo. And I ultimately was his secretary for economic development and housing. So that means I was his, uh, in-house senior staffer dealing with job creation, economic development, housing, the department of state, um,

hurricane recovery, the like stuff like that. And so the substance of the job was incredible. It was like living this great dream that I felt like I had prepared for, for most of my career. And I think that was what made it so humiliating and hard and,

to be at the very same time having this abusive, predatory environment. And just to be clear, I'm talking with two beautiful women. I've been sexually harassed throughout my career. Every job I've ever had. That's two, girl. But what was different here is that I was constantly being fed to the predator. It was like this bully in my neighborhood growing up. He had this snake and they would feed him mice and they would knock...

the the mouse's head against the the tank until it was kind of basically disoriented and the snake would eat it and that is what it was like working for under cuomo i was a fucking mouse having my head jammed against the side of a tank and

until I was disoriented and be eaten alive by this man. And the women who worked for him participated in the harm. And I think that's what you see in a lot of the report. You see in some of his support now, some people hate women and some of those people are women is something that I've unfortunately learned. And so I worked for him.

I left working for him. Um, it had been a really toxic period in my life and I got out eventually. And, um, I started to figure out how am I going to do my own thing? Run for office. Didn't win. You got to keep doing until you, until you do, until you win. And so that's where I had thought of my path forward after leaving, working for that monster. Um, I,

about, I don't know, two years after I stopped, three years after I stopped working for him, whatever the timeline was, it wasn't in my first congressional race. It was during when I was running for Manhattan borough president. Um, someone on Twitter had said, what's the most toxic job you've ever had? And I love those things because you're like, Oh, it's

You know, you're just not even really thinking about it. And I said, working for Andrew Cuomo. It was less respectful than working in Friendly's as a teenager and, you know, scooping ice cream. Friendly's. And I just went into it. It was hostile. I didn't say anything about sexual harassment. And then a woman reached out to me. Oh, shit. And she's a woman in the report. I won't name her because she's not here. Yeah, yeah. But she said, this man harassed me. He sexually harassed me. And I hadn't said sexual harassment publicly. Oh, shit. She reached out to me. She DM'd me. We talked. We talked.

She's much younger than I. She could be my little sister. I believed every word she said because he's a fucking predator and he does the same thing to women. She kind of looks like me, another sign of a fucking predator with a type. And I felt terrible that I had –

And in not speaking up for years and not doing something about this man, I had made that – I felt like I had made that happen to her. Oh, I see. And that felt really shitty. And I'm sitting with this. I'm trying to figure out what do I do with this information. I've got to do something. And then –

His name is being floated for attorney general in the Biden administration. And that's one of the most powerful positions in the country. You decide who to prosecute. Our lawmaker. Yeah. Our national lawmaker. Yeah. You can't. Deciding what rights women have. Absolutely. And so those two things, this conversation with this woman and that floating of the name, and I'm in politics, so I know when a name is floated. It's literally so that we can, the people deciding who they appoint or try to appoint can

can see if there's baggage out there. And so I'm in politics, so I know that that's what that's for. And I just started tweeting. I didn't tell anyone I was doing this. I probably, if I would have, we wouldn't be talking here because that's fucking crazy to tweet something

The truth about a monster when he is the most popular governor in the country, perhaps the most popular person at a given time. And you, to be fair, man, I get why you didn't say anything at first. Like, because if you want a career in politics, you went to school for this. You saw. It's my dream. I saw the possibility of politics. Like local government is the, is such an incredible place where great change can happen. Yeah.

And I imagine that's going through your head before you said anything. It's like, well, I'm over if I say anything. Well, especially with the Cuomo family name. I mean, for people who aren't on the East Coast, they might not understand the power that this family has. You know, Andrew Cuomo, famously a Nepo baby. His brother. Like, the whole family. These are titans in...

New York politics. Yeah. And even when I left him before I spoke publicly, I would say things like people would ask me what it was like. I said, well, he's just like Donald Trump without the money. Yeah. And and that was my way of saying something. And I would make eye contact with the person. I gotcha. And it's been so interesting for me because I know a lot of people in New York City feel like they need someone who can stand up to Donald Trump. And I go, you don't him. And I go, you don't pick

the same type of... To me, it's so obvious that Andrew Cuomo is cut from the same cloth as Donald Trump. And we even saw it in one of the first interviews he gave after announcing that he's running for mayor. He said, and I posted it, he's like, well, you know, Donald Trump is a New Yorker, and I think we have to wait and see. I think he wants the best for New York. He has some good ideas. That's the tough guy that you want? By the way, he's not tough. We are in this situation right now because Eric Adams...

has a problem with legality. A lot of stuff. He has a potential corruption charge. Yeah. He has been potentially co-opted by the Trump administration because of these Turkish flights, these little adventures he liked to go on. Absolutely. Think about what it would be. First class. Yes. Think about

But what it would be if we had a mayor of New York City who has already been referred for criminal prosecution by the COVID select committee in the House, by the Republican-led select committee, but even the minority leadership and the Democrats said this guy did some bad shit. Cuomo is this guy. Yeah. This guy is going to be way more co-opted by Trump. One, he's not going to be independent. Two, these –

Two dicks grew up together. Yeah. As I have heard, the lore is that Trump was at Cuomo's bachelor party. Now, all these guys are swimming in the same drain. I'm hoping they all go down eventually. But this is not a guy who's any different. And then the two other pieces...

He's not a Republican. At some point, the Democrats are going to have to take responsibility for the fact that they have been spending all of their time, all of our time messaging that we fucking care about women. And you're going to let this guy come back into power after every senior Democrat, including the president, including his lieutenant governor, including both of our, of our senators in New York said, this guy's got to go. He's a piece of shit. Yeah. You're going to let the democratic party.

The party will go down before this man actually runs it ever again, in my view. And then thirdly, he's got fucking $5 to his name. He is not Donald Trump. Word? I mean, I don't know if it's $5. I'm saying, you know, pedantically. Right. Compared to that guy. Exactly. He does not have Donald Trump money. Yeah, yeah. So...

In addition to not being Republican, in addition to having a lot to be co-opted about, the reason why he's – what he's doing now, the $60 million he spent to harass me and the other woman he abused legally and to malign the nursing home victims' families in court, he's not paying for any of it. He doesn't have any money. That's taxpayer money. Exactly. And the only reason I want to bring this last point up is every time – it's such an obvious –

on women who come forward about their own harm to say, oh, they want the money. Bitch, I'm paying my own legal fees. Yeah. What money? And I'm not suing him. I did not want to sue him. It's been way too traumatic for my family. I've got a daughter who's watching me do this, have to deal with this stuff and this monster. Yeah.

And yet, as a potential witness, I have had to pay $1.5 million of my own money in order to simply defend myself from this man's attacks when he is paying none of his legal bills. Girl, what the fuck? And I don't think any of these women, they will, to be clear, there are three active cases that relate to his harm.

And he's going to – in my estimation, knowing the evidence that's there, knowing what has been asserted as true and what happened, he's going to be found guilty in all of them. But it's going to take years and he's banking on the amount of time it will take to fucking destroy all of the women, destroy anyone who can speak negatively about him. Yeah. Such a Trump thing. Before –

All of this accountability comes back. Right. And it's not going to happen. That is why you're seeing loud Lindsay Boylan every day because we cannot let this – I will not let him be your mayor.

You will not let him be your mayor. Yeah, no. I will not let him be my daughter's mayor. No, I don't want him near women. Disgusting. Yeah, he's disgusting. I wouldn't let him be my cashier at Duane Reade, which is the most work that you can do. Give me a milkshake at Shake Shack. And so do you think, knowing what you know about these cases and that he would probably be found guilty, but it would take some time? He absolutely will be found guilty. There's so much evidence in the Attorney General's report just from having known about that.

Do you think because of this timeline, that's why he feels like now is a good time to run for mayor? Like, let me just get in this extra piece of power. In that sense, he is using the Trump playbook. Let me just flood the zone with competing information and destroy these women and just make it about, oh, I'm going to regulate e-bikes. I'm going to do this. I'm going to do that. I'm going to take this on. I'm going to hire...

You know, whatever his new thing that he says each day, you watch. It comes right after some really shitty expose on the reality of what he has done. Absolutely. Right after. Anytime he announces something, just be like, oh, well, what just happened five minutes ago in the news before he announced this? Because that is the game he is playing. Yeah. And it's the only game this man has. Yeah. Is flooding the zone with information. He's evil Kris Jenner, basically. Yeah.

I mean, I thought about it that way. There you go. Just to translate it to anyone who might be missing this. So he announces – you had your experience with him. You didn't say anything. You have a woman coming forward to you and confiding in you. Then he announces he wants to be a Attorney General. Significantly younger than myself. Yeah. He didn't announce he wanted to be a Attorney General. His name was being floated as a potential pick in a Biden administration. So that is when people are trying to say like, well, we would –

how would americans yes right literally it's it's how paul's and you know people putting together administration float a balloon out there say is this do we need to know do we need to worry about this guy oh that's before we invest a ton of money energy into this i knew i knew that that is what that was for and i knew i had to say something and and eventually this guy will get

his karmic. Yeah. You know, punishment, but it needs to be sooner. Oh, I'm trying to escalate. He cannot be our mayor. This man, this one thing I try to always bring up is that unfortunately,

Unfortunately, too many people don't care about what happens to women in this country. Women don't care about what happens to women in this country. Correct. And we've seen that in a lot of people we've elected, right? But his abuse of power, his abuse of us, his abuse of his staff, his abuse of resources to write a fucking self-aggrandizing $5 million book about his success that actually killed off potentially 15,000 people in nursing homes in New York. Yeah, that nursing home death was bad. That is all the same thing. Exactly. Yeah. It's all abuse of power. Yeah.

And then it's all lying about that. Yeah. And then it's abusing power to destroy and harm the people who could hold him accountable. Right. So I really hate to say this because I went to women's college. I'm a girl's girl. I have a daughter. But people don't even have to care about women to take this seriously because it is the same fucking abuse of power. Right.

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Sexual harassment, and this goes not just for this monster, it goes for any other monster that you talk about on this show or that you unfortunately have to deal with in your lives. If they abuse women and they abuse their power over women, they're not stopping that in that realm. They're doing it

Every realm. And so I'll say that if that makes it relevant for people who don't care about women, for women who don't care about women. I wish like when we were reading the report, I kept going, like I just kept making like throw up noises. Like he reaches under women's shirts to grab their breasts during a hug. If a man or a woman grabbed my fucking tit while they were hugging me, I would. What? What? And he's done that.

To so many people. Having erections when he hugs you. Asking for, if you know anybody that could be his girlfriend. That one's just pathetic. Bonus if she can tolerate pain. What the fuck? You are a boy, Andrew Cuomo. The only thing about that that plays in my mind that, like, can you tolerate pain is I think he didn't get what he expected with that answer. Because I can fucking tolerate pain.

Yeah, you have. And I've had to go through a lot of shit because of this monster. And so has every other woman that he has harmed. Yeah. So I don't think he knew what he was asking for when he said he's looking for women who can tolerate pain. No, the women who can tolerate pain are the ones who are going to take him down. Yeah. Okay.

I just think it's – I mean he's disgusting. He's so – he's one of those guys that are so pathetically power hungry that you know his ego is the only thing that's important to him. And I'm like what do you tell yourself in the mirror before you go on your day that keeps you going because –

I can't find anything redeeming about this man. Well, I think he hates himself at the end of the day. I mean, you hear some of these commentaries, even, you know, things that I unfortunately had to learn about his sisters, his family, and how they were all participating in this harm. New York times did an expose on how his sister with his, um,

Support, as it has been conveyed, was spending her time smearing me and the other victims by saying we need to make LB and KH, Karen Hinton, another woman who came forward who was a former staffer, afraid into shutting up basically. So his sister said that and she had his support. But in all of these exchanges that I've unfortunately been forced to learn about, it's not a very happy man.

And he wasn't a very happy man to work around. Yeah. He does really hate himself. And I think we find that around people who cannot treat others right in any condition. Yeah. They fucking hate themselves. And the most dangerous person is somebody who hates themselves. Man or woman. Yes. But it just so happens that when you're a man who hates himself, you just do so much damage. He really does. So much damage. And at some point, the clock is going to stop. And I'm going to make sure it's now. Yeah. And...

I want to force, and I love what you're doing, and I love this conversation because I want to force everyone to say, okay,

you should stand up and say you like abusers because that's what you're doing well i know be honest and if and you know what i would have a little bit of respect for you if you could fucking be that honest with yourself i'm so sick of like it's happening in the federal government on so many like just it's happening in so many places where everybody's saying that like this dress is this dress is yellow when it's like no it's stop can we all stop thinking that what you're saying is actually true like it's this denial of reality is wild it's really gross yeah and i and

and by the way, he doesn't even want to be mayor. He just wants back. He just wants power back. And, and he helped design a system in Albany that makes the mayor of our country's biggest and most important city, uh,

asking for a lot of things when he or she has to go to Albany. This man does not want this job. It's just the one that came open quickly enough and has a big media market, a lot of interest. And he's either going after Kathy Hochul next or he's going after some other office next. So I think the saddest thing is to just go even with our lackluster leaders like Stamford

Senator Gillibrand who's built her entire career around protecting sexual assault and harassment survivors she was like well I guess he said he was sorry no fuck that shit none of that happened and she's not stupid right I know people who know her and she said basically why are

Why are they focused on me? Like, yes, lady, I am focused on you because you are a woman in power and you know better and you've actually built your entire career on knowing better. So I'm absolutely going to call your number. I'm absolutely going to call you out. And I'm not going to have someone in that.

position either. I'm going to be looking for a replacement amongst our community. Maybe someone listening to this call should replace her. And I'm going to make sure not just for myself and for all of us, my daughter, I'm not going to have her led by a person with no backbone.

bone yeah what is with the lack of lack of backbone for people who who we know believe that sexual predators shouldn't be in office in their hearts like what what what goes away of him yeah afraid of this man he is such a mock specifically the retaliation spent 60 million yeah and I and I I've said this but I

I guess it freaks people out when I say it, but it's true. His path to victory is to destroy the women he abused. And that's including me. So I'm trying to be as like distant from it as I can. Absolutely. But

The electeds have all built their careers having to deal in the same swamp as him, so to speak. They know exactly what he's like. Absolutely. And he is trying to make an example of me and the other women and anyone who's spoken out against him. Ron Kim, who he said he could destroy when Ron Kim spoke out about a loved one who had died in a nursing home. And this was an estate assemblyman. Absolutely. I'm familiar with this.

He makes examples of people every day. Ron Kim was simply trying to hold him accountable and make sure he and his senior staffers were telling the truth about what they did and did not do in terms of nursing home care.

policies in accepting COVID positive patients and the actual death counts in nursing homes or actual death counts attributed to nursing homes because they tried to... They almost scrubbed the data. They did because they didn't want themselves to look bad because they would look bad. Right. And he threatened Ron Kim.

And instead of backing down, Ron Kim spoke up. And as a result, he, I, and all these other people are daily being made, constantly being examples of this is what happens, Chuck Schumer, if you say something against Andrew Cuomo. This is what happens, Hakeem Jeffries, if you say something against Andrew Cuomo. Mm-hmm.

Kirsten Gillibrand, this is what happens if you say something against Andrew Cuomo. Oh, God. And the only thing I can say that is not the only positive thing. I've seen so much solidarity amongst not just women, but people like, okay.

this is terrible. And that has been really redeeming. But the other thing is we're never going to be able to change anything for the better if we don't actually know just how bad the system is. And this is, this is the party that supposedly protects women. Next time someone says they're protecting me, they're not getting my vote. I don't want to be protected. I want,

to have equal rights under this law. I don't want to have equal respect of my humanity. And we need to see how bad it is, even in our own party, if we're actually going to make it better. And it's really bad. Yeah. And that's one thing I've been discovering. I mean, I knew it to be true, but I'm discovering it more and more every day.

is that there is this energy that we're the party that's on the right side of history and we do all the right things and Republicans are evil and we're great. And I go, the same corruption is happening on this side. This was an open secret, quite obviously. There were so many people that knew this was happening. And no one was standing up for you. No one's supporting you. This is crazy. I had, and this is in the report, I won't name the people, but a very influential woman

who ran a real estate related community organization in the city before I went to work for him said, don't get too close to him. And I was like, that is a strange comment from a very senior woman who runs a real estate related community facing organization. This is an open secret. She's like, oh, that was the other piece. She said, I had to kill a New York Times story on him and women last week.

And this was, this was before I went to work for him before I even met him. Wow. So there's so many more women than those. Oh, no, no, no. I mean, when I say like when the 13, which is the DOJ number, um, Biden's DOJ, I just like to say this was not a hit job from Trump. Um, it's, uh,

I knew before the attorney general's report came out that it was going to be devastating for him. No one else thought that. I mean, not no one else, but people I talked to didn't necessarily think it would be. I knew because this man does not know how to be appropriate with women. Yeah. He doesn't know how to be appropriate with women.

with women. Yeah. I don't think he's ever understood how to be appropriate with women. And his first excuse of acting totally inappropriately was to show a bunch of pictures of him kissing people in public. Psycho. If that's your defense. Psycho. Yeah. Psychotic. And absolutely just thinks that he has access to women's

body in a way that's like... There's hundreds of women. He's done this too. I would say hundreds. Oh, and that 100%, 13 is just who we know about. I was on the phone with someone who was talking to me about possibly working on my campaign a week and a half ago. And she said, I'm also a victim of Andrew Cuomo. You know, add me to that number. I go, great. It just makes me, it makes me furious. And...

I hate going back to like, listen, you don't have to care about women. You don't have to care what happens to me. You don't have to, you don't even have to want women's lives to be better to know that this abuser isn't going to make anything you care about better in the city of New York because he doesn't know how to do anything but abuse and lie. And, and,

That's why – I mean I am just – just see the – like I'm drooling at the chance to watch you annihilate him into his face because I honestly think his only weakness is his ego like getting poked at in front of him where he can't say shit to it. Have you seen the retaliatory things he's tried to do to these other women and which ones –

gross you out the most. I mean, I think the two that are really shocking to me is the woman who had reached out to me originally that compelled me in part to come forward. Yeah. Significantly younger than I. This was basically her first job out of college. Oh my God. When she decided to take him on in court and sue him in civil court, he sought out gynecological records for her. Yeah. He sought out her college records. For what?

Just to smear her. That's a question. That is a question. I don't know. But he sexually harassed this young woman who was younger than I think at least two out of his three daughters. And yes. I didn't know he had daughters. This is the one who he said – he has three daughters. This is the one who he said he is interested in younger women.

who sang to her on the phone as she recorded because she knew that was fucking weird. Yes. Ew. All sorts of things. He sought gynecological records from her when she had the temerity to take him on in court. And by the way, her lawyers weren't being paid for by the state.

But his are. Yeah. His lawyer, Rita Glavin, who goes on TV and smears all of us regularly. Wow. Regularly. She is the one who sought gynecological records. And you know where she was on his campaign launch Sunday at the Carpenters? Answering this question and then smearing this victim again, saying, well, if this victim would just let us explain to the public why we need her gynecological records, what kind of fucking monster? Why don't you explain it, Rita? Yes. Yes. And what kind of

What kind of coward has a lawyer answer his question on the day of his in-person public launch of his campaign? What a fucking baby. So that's the one that I think that stands out a lot. And then the other one that stands out a lot because just the reality of this woman's position is the state trooper. Now, I don't know her. I've never met her. I've never talked to her. I don't know who she is. Um,

He plucked her out. That report was very interesting. He chose her, which is what he always does. He's a predator. So he makes it. That's the same cycle of abuse. He love bombs you a little bit of like, you're important. You should work for me. You should put. Yeah. I handpicked you to work on team Cuomo. Her job.

If you know state troopers, their job is to give their lives to their principal, give their lives for their principal if it requires. This is a law enforcement official who was willing to take a bullet for this man and he would get in elevators with her and run his hand down her back and, and,

ask her about why she wanted to get married and, and sex life around marriage and just a complete disgusting monster. All the while she's trying to protect him, asking her why she doesn't wear dresses. I mean, she's a fucking cop. What kind of a monster does stuff like that? I think those two stand out because they're really bad. Um, they just show what a completely unethical monster he is. But if you think about all the, all the cases, um,

These are women who worked for him largely, who dedicated their lives to something bigger than themselves. And he thought, well, this is another one of my play toys. I think for me it was so humiliating because maybe how I was a little different than most of the women except for maybe Karen Hinton is I was a little older, out to pasture, so to speak, and I was very senior. And for me that was very humiliating because –

I had worked so hard my whole career of student body president, Wellesley Columbia business school. I had all the right jobs, had all the, you know, did all the hard work to get in this room. And I was being treated like a little fucking doll half of the time. Yeah. And I didn't know which conversation I would be encountering either with him or his female support subordinates who would be abusive as well. Um, I didn't know if I would be getting an email about running, um, the state's recovery work in Puerto Rico, which I did, um,

Or an email saying, he says you look just like his ex-girlfriend, Lisa Shields. That's an email? Yes. From his secretary. From his secretary? A woman secretary? Yes. He said, well, he said, she said an email, something to the effect. He said, look up Lisa Shields. You look just like her, but her younger, attractive sister. And I'm like, what the fuck is this? What the fuck, dude? This is an inch. Because it had been a response to an email that I had substantively said about an announcement we just made in economic development. And that was the response I got. Yeah.

And then I was like, well, who is Lisa Shields? I don't even know who that is. So I Googled her. She was his ex-girlfriend. Oh, God. And then he would call me Lisa on several occasions. I don't know if that was intentional to humiliate me. Yeah, it was. It was. To make you feel small so he can get his claws in you. So then I worked so hard to get here. And then it's humiliating to be in that position after working so hard. Like it made me think, well, what –

what does this mean? Right. Cause when you come into a position that you're so excited for, that you educated yourself for, that you, you, you work 20 years, basically 20 years to get to. And then there's that, like, I think with every woman, whenever a woman works with a man ever in any situation, it's,

we're always kind of looking out for that pivot. Oh, is it going to pivot into bad territory? Do I have to worry about you or can I feel safe in front of you? And so often we're led to feel safe with a man only for him to sneak his claws. And you know what? I think the scariest thing about that, what you just said, I think will resonate with any woman listening because we all know that, that, that an unfortunate reality. I will tell you that I had some experience like that in every job, every situation I ever had, but,

This was a million times worse because the entire system, it would be almost like the entire Capitol building was built to feed this predator, particularly with women. Damn, this guy sucks. You know, like it was just, I don't even know how I would go back to Albany because it just, it triggers me. The building triggers me, the number of people who were silent about

his constant harassment of women for years. Yeah. Um, so it's just tough. And it makes me so sad that like what you said earlier about like, you don't even have to care about women. Yeah, I know that. Yeah.

yeah it's like if that doesn't interest you maybe we have something else that might like something else on the menu my hope is that maybe right like maybe it's not right now but maybe someone will get this podcast and be like can you fucking believe this woman and these women are having to have a conversation about maybe you don't care about women but you should care about something that affects you and these are connected yeah yeah we gotta we gotta add on some extras i hope that this is totally outdated this year yeah i

And it's like if this is how Andrew Cuomo treats the people who are on his side, imagine how he treats anyone who's not on his side. I mean, I so I have been so inspired by all the people who are like, no, Lindsay, we're not gonna let this happen. We're gonna show up. We're gonna protest his fucking women for Cuomo breakfast. Yeah.

Wait, what? So they had a women for coma practice, which is just a way for him to say women support me and half of the people are related to him and half of the people are related to the folks who helped abuse the women who worked for him, his senior staffers who helped in the abuse. They were there and I did show up and I wanted to say, I'm not going to disappear. You should be ashamed. And somehow-

uh, his commentary through his comms person, which has a party who he called a, an idiot constantly. When we worked together, he, he was so dismissive of this man. Somehow this man continues to Cape and dedicate his life to this monster is embarrassing for him, but he somehow made it out about, you know, and his team making it about me as if this was, yeah, this was Lindsay's of, I mean, how disgraceful, you know, that,

he did these things. Yeah. You know that you did these things, Amber Cuomo, and you are such a disgrace that you will go on record and try to, even in that moment, pretend like we don't all fucking know exactly what you did. There's this unspoken about contract when the cycle of abuse where these women that are working for him, I'm sure his sister as well. Yeah. Feel like,

like cancerously empowered by the fact that he likes them. Yes. Yes. And I don't know how the fuck to shake these women to understand, like, how do you not get that? You're part of the problem. You're getting a high from protecting this man. Yeah. That's psycho. I mean, he, he, I mean, unfortunately I knew how his, his corrupt machine worked, but,

I knew that when I came forward, he was going to use the Me Too movement that he had supposedly built a connection with to try and smear me. So he tried to get the women in Hollywood who had supported Me Too to sign on to letters, Time's Up, basically saying I was not a credible person. Like he literally went to the sexual harassment people and said, help me destroy this woman. And then he went to his former staffer who I worked with

the head of the Human Rights Council, the human rights, you know, organization at the time and said, you know, give me a smear file on Lindsay. And he did. And so he lost his job. And then he went to his brother and he said, I don't know what the conversation was, but his brother was empowered to say, use his job as a journalist to say, I've got I've got a lead on the wedding girl.

Basically using his – one of the women who spoke up about how inappropriate he was. Oh, okay. And he used all of these people to advance his abuse. Yeah. And a lot of them were women. Yeah. Including his family members and are now. Is he married and divorced? Like what – he's always asking for a girlfriend. I mean I try not to know any more than I have. Well, he parades his daughter's – I knew he was about to announce he was running for mayor because there was a lot of pictures with him and his daughter.

I mean, listen, when I came forward, people who thought they were being helpful wanted to talk about his daughters. But I didn't think that was appropriate because they didn't choose this. No, of course not. However, I have one addendum. You don't show up at your father's announcement as full adults and basically reputation wash him. And yet he, I guess, gave him the proceeds of his some significant amount of the proceeds of his book.

So I really think that it's very inappropriate. These are now adult women who are making this choice for their lives. And I think that they're going to if they have any humanity, they're going to regret it. We'll see. Yeah. Well, I mean, the word on the street was that he moved into one of his daughter's apartments and then she then moved to Brooklyn. So because he wasn't even living in New York City and therefore really shouldn't even be eligible to run for mayor. Yes. I mean, it's it's. Have you ever seen him lose a ship?

Oh, I mean, this is constant. Really? Yeah. I mean, like temper. The guy I mentioned to you, Rich has a party. He would lose his shit on that guy all the time. Wow. He would lose his shit on reporters. That was, I was in the car. He's so calm during comedy. Oh, he's not calm at all. He's got the worst temper.

It's just all poker face. Yeah, no, I mean, he's maniacal, but he's abusive in meetings. He'll yell. I mean, I've never heard anything like it from outside the hallway. Really? Yeah. I mean, I was waiting to meet with him at one point and he was screaming at a junior staffer who he was constantly making fun of for his weight.

and constantly making fun of in general. And it was so loud that the state troopers that have to guard him from outside the room came out to see what it was. And they looked at me, I looked at them and you're kind of in this moment like, well, is anyone going to do something? It almost sounds like someone's being abused in there. Yeah. That's this entire campaign is me looking around going, is anyone going to do something? Yes. That's the whole, that's the whole thing. And I, and I think the fact that you're doing something and that I'm doing something and that so many other women are doing something, um,

That's all we can do is just say, well, at some point the buck fucking stops here and I'm going to do what I can in the platform that I have to say what I can and to fight against this monster. It's all we can do. And I do think the majority of people know exactly who this monster is and they don't want him. Yeah. But there are people who are willing to fucking throw women under the bus, who are unable to accept the...

that they are part of a, an abusive system and are going to stick with them. So we've got to be louder and we've got to organize much better. Yeah. That's like the main thing I want to get across to people. I'm like, we don't have to keep putting up with this. We re we have been convinced, um, because perhaps the outcomes of elections aren't what we hope them to be, that we don't have power. We've been exhausted, but I'm like the one thing that this whole process has really reinforced for me is that we do have the power, but you have to show up and vote and,

You can't just post on Instagram or complain or say, I wish things were better. Turnout for elections is so low. It's not a reflection of the amount of people that live in a space. No, it's not. Just show up at the polls and we can stop this.

Well, and I think also just to that point, to get real brass tacks on it, you can't rank this man. Do not rank this man. We have a rank choice voting process. This last mayoral election was the first time we had it. And we have Eric Adams, who won in, I think, the sixth or seventh round. He only beat Catherine Garcia by, I think, six or seven thousand votes. Don't quote me on it, but it was a small number. It's very close. Very small number. So my plea to people is you cannot rank this man. I wouldn't rank Eric Adams either. And you can rank up to

five people you don't have to do all five i would suggest gaming this process out i would suggest you rank all five because let's just say let's just like you know throw it out there let's say you rank your three yeah right we know who we're ranking yeah um and then you don't rank the last two well let's say your three get kicked out then you have no say in the mayor's election right but if you rank all five and they're not up until that last ranking to be a part of

voting and who runs who becomes mayor and so i one of the educational things that i really want to get out there is because i was you know kind of like gaming this out do i just say for people to vote for their top three fill the ballot out absolutely fill the five ranks out do not rank andrew cuomo do not rank eric adams june 25th fill all five and people say well who are the other people i haven't heard of them well it's because these are yes these abusers are taking up so much

But pretty soon there's going to be this moment for the candidates to shine and, and, and there's going to be real effort to do that. And that is one of the few benefits of ranked choice voting. It's not a yes, no, a B test. Who can we support? And the public matching funds process means that all this money that this man, this monster, for example, has built up over his career in this war chest and these, this, this, this steady stream of money, um,

is going to be less powerful if we can organize around other people getting public matching funds because it's an eight to one match up to $250 per person who lives in New York City. So those two things, that's our game plan. We organize, we fight, we talk about what matters. We rank the five people and you do not rank Andrew Cuomo. You do not rank Eric Adams. Yep. June 24th. That is when the primary is a Democratic primary for mayor in New York City. And if you can always get a mail-in ballot, if you're not there, you do early voting for primaries as well.

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Yeah. And I think you brought up a good point just now. And this is something that I have a political podcast as well. And I talked about this because I, you know, reading city and state every day, moment of my damn life. And I mean, the amount of, I'm so angry at a lot of these journalists because journalists really have so much power. They have power with visibility and viability for candidates. And there's been some journalists who have been receptive to me, but again, they're kind of like, you know, I want to see a little more money. And I go, well, this is how people, I go. So,

We complain all day about capitalism, but then we only measure viability of a candidate based on how much money they have. When in reality, one of the things I'm most proud of with my campaign is in my rollout, I have more individual donors than all but one other candidate. I mean, that's a huge message. That's what I'm trying to do. If you have a lot of money and you want to give me $2,100, great. Thank you so much. I cried every time those donations came in. But I am so happy to receive...

thousands of $30 donations because that's just... I don't want you struggling because you donated to Corinne Fisher for mayor, but I have been so angry at these journalists because...

how many articles I've seen about Andrew Cuomo and Eric Adams when there are so many other candidates we could be highlighting. Yes. Well, and I think, and I, and I hate to go here, but, uh, it is one of my beats right now. One, all these journalists covering this mayor's race, no Andrew Cuomo. Oh, word. Yes. Pretty much. Especially when you talk about city and state politico, these people know all the stories. They know all the stories. And in fact, a lot of the women journalists, uh,

Have had these experiences with him. Were? Maybe not to the same extent as working for him. Absolutely. Ew. I mean, there's one video where he's asking a female journalist at an event he was running if she liked big sausages or some sausage sandwich thing. I don't even want to repeat it. So one, they know who this man is. This guy sucks. Two, they are many times practicing access journalism.

So they want to be the first to get some endorsement that he has so that they can get the benefit of the clicks for the paper and the advertising dollars, all that. For sure. It is a business. For sure. And in order to get that, they have to share positive information about this man. And so that is why there are certain publications, there are certain journalists who...

that I just don't trust because they practice access journalism. And one thing that I will be making part of my agenda moving forward after this election is how corruption has even seeped into our media landscape and journalism. And don't get me wrong, this has been the last, I think, two years has been perhaps the most unsafe time

years for journalists globally speaking, and we cannot malign this really important field, but we also need to call out bad actors and access journalism and media as a business, not as an ethical practice of finding the truth. And there's too much of that. And I think what you're experiencing feeds directly into that. Yeah. And as consumers of news, I think

we have to really ask ourselves, why are we so much more interested in reading about bad people than good people? It's, it's, it's, um, what is it? Pain porn. Um, I mean, I hate dealing with that. I hate talking about, listen, I would love if five years from now we're on this and we're all talking about, I don't know, um, bunnies and cats and my dog truffle, you know, or something like that. Um, but it, people, this doomer ism news. Yeah. It, it,

A lot of the news stories that I see coming out, first of all, he's very good at flooding the field like we were talking about. A bad story about him losing against the ethics agency basically at the state for his book money that is probably going to be taken back from him at some point because now the state's basic – the appellate court of the state, which is the highest court in the state, has said, no, you're not going to blow up New York State ethics because you don't like how they may rule on your book. Huh.

So he tried to do that. The next day, he had some major leak to the media changing the subject. It's just all so transparent and obvious for anyone spending their time on this. But one thing I'm going to do either way out in the outcome of this is to make it transparent and obvious to people who don't live their lives in this space because it's deeply corrupt. We talk about corruption in this country. And to your point earlier, Corinne, it pervades both parties. It's not a one-party corruption machine. Absolutely.

And unfortunately, media is a big part of that and it's a business. And I think we saw that with the some of the toppling of of staffers at CNN connected to this case and the corruption around that. But beyond that, and a lot of that ties back to a monster like Andrew Cuomo using what should be a field of integrity for his own personal benefit. We started this conversation that way, right? Abuse of power.

Look to the camera again. You don't have to care about women, but I hope you do. And if you don't, it's still all the same abuse of power. Yeah. He's abusing the system to deliver you the news that he thinks you should hear and nothing else. Mm-hmm.

It's absolute control. And I don't understand why I see a real big problem with people conflating being a bully with being powerful, right? We need, yeah, we all agree we need someone who can stand up to Donald Trump or you need a mayor of New York City, obviously needs to be a powerful person, someone who's not afraid to speak the truth. And I don't understand why people think

bullies are powerful when in reality we know we learn in grade school that bullies are people who lack self-confidence, who are most likely being bullied in some way themselves. This is the least, these are the weakest people. Donald Trump is going to steamroll this man. If he somehow becomes our mayor, he is going to be steamrolled faster than, you know, a pancake on a griddle. It's like, it's totally obvious the things already laying out there in Congress and the house, the select committee, uh,

All of the things that they can jam him on are so much more pervasive. The Department of Justice, remember, is the one that said he did these things. They had a settlement with the executive chamber in Albany, the governor's executive chamber, saying this man did these things. Do you think all of these admissions by the federal government that is now led by Donald Trump just go away when –

If Andrew Cuomo becomes mayor, no, they're salivating on him becoming mayor. Yeah. Wouldn't Donald Trump love to just steamroll this guy again? Yeah. So he has, Trump has incentive to get Cuomo elected. I mean, I don't, my, my, my thinking is he probably has other things going on and. But the mayor of New York City, he's got a lot of buildings here. Yes. He's kind of annoying. He, I would assume that, uh,

He'll enjoy it because it will be easy to bring Cuomo down. Sure. Yeah. That is my honest take on it. That makes sense. And then your times –

To their credit, they did an article I think maybe a week ago, Will He Really Stand Up to Trump? And it talked about how he had never really stood up to Trump that much. And I think they may have touched on this thing that I've mentioned that I'm trying to make sure people are aware of how co-optable he is. So they have done that, but not enough people are reading the New York Times. Not enough people are reading these deep dive stories. We need to have the reality of this abusive man and how co-optable he is

in the ether in every conversation. And that's why I'm even tired of seeing my face everywhere. And I'm tired because we cannot stop.

talking about this until everyone knows the same information about this monster there was a podcast interview you did in 2019 that i was listening to and you're no it's great it was just you're talking about running for the borough president of manhattan how it's one of the most unequal districts ever like in a such an interesting interview but you talked about your daughter who's five at the time so i guess you know she's 11 10 11 turning 11 on friday and you talked about how like she's becoming an activist in her own right on her own terms not because of you but i imagine inspired

by you how could she not be right she's amazing so she's 11 as a young well I remember being 11 it's a very it's a year where you realize oh shit I'm gonna be a woman soon like it's a very it's a very impressionable year it's a very you know as you grow up you realize men treat you differently when your body changes and you get heartache after heartache right

Have you let, does she know about this stuff? She does. So, you know, unfortunately when you grow up with a mom who's a politician, um, I think the best thing you can do is try and find safety even when things are not going well. So when I was running for office, I tried to give her context and share some things, but also share that she was always safe even when things weren't going well for me or something like that. Right. And the same was true when I came forward. Um, but.

But there was a moment in about a few weeks ago before he had definitely declared for mayor, and it's something I'll never forget. I had –

I had said, I said, well, you know, a lot of the women are suing him. They're going, they're going to hold him accountable at some point. I said, I decided not to sue him because he had, you know, harmed our family so much. And she said, yeah, he already did harm our family. Why didn't you sue him? And I just felt like, okay, well, I need to do this now, especially I need to find if, if,

We don't always find accountability in the same way. I think the best way that I can use my talents and the context and my privilege, because I have a lot of privilege, is to hold him accountable in this mayor's race. Yeah. Yes. And so I hope that someday she's going to be like, my mom was a little crazy. She's all energy, all running around over the place, always at her house, you know, but she did the thing. Yeah. And she paved the way. I hope that that's what we see. And I hope that she'd be like,

Well, now it doesn't even matter because it's so equal. Yeah. Wouldn't that be cool? Yeah. I mean, I think if she sees a privileged white woman like myself having a hard time, what can we expect for the next generation of women who don't have all the privileges I have? Yeah. Yeah. A hundred percent. Yeah. I mean, that's, yep. I think the same thing when I'm running, like exactly, like I'm coming into this race with privilege and part of what I wanted to do

see, discover, and show other people is I'm coming in with a following. Yeah.

with a large platform, with more money than everyday people, although nothing in terms of a lot of these other candidates. And I still knew it would be incredibly hard for me even to elbow my way in. This is an area that is completely gatekept. Oh, completely. Yeah. And it's brutal. People are brutal in gatekeeping. They are so mean. You're like, I'm trying to serve the public and you're here. I literally had

a woman shout at me when I mentioned a feminist leader from a different era. And she's like, you're nothing like her. And I, you know, I had a woman spit on me once. I'm like, this is so crazy on you. Yeah. It's just, you know, you're like,

And I think the only way we change that is by continuing and also holding a mirror to some of these hateful things. You're like, gosh, how sad that a woman hates herself and hates women so much that she is willing to gatekeep a woman who simply wants to try and help. Yeah. Wow, man. Like, you know it, right? It's been women. It's, you know, I obviously expected that people would say, well, what political experience do you have? Why, you know, why should we trust you as mayor? And it's really the one thing I wasn't surprised that I was asked that, but I was surprised that

99% of the time I'm asked that it's by other women. And I understand that, that it's because, you know, they feel these own boundaries in their lives and they're like, well, why is she doing something that I don't feel the power to do myself? And I get that, but we can't,

Nothing's ever going to get better if we just expect the same shit from every generation. Yeah, and I'm like, what do you mean by political experience? It's been the same people over and over again. Is political experience manipulating the public? Is political experience lying? Is political experience taking bribes? Because that's what we've seen as political experience. So you know what? How about we try someone who's just been living as a resident of New York City and

and can actually knows what's going on and is not spending all her time at caucuses. Seriously. And I also think, I mean, look who we're talking about vis-a-vis here. This is the person who was born into politics. Yes. And notoriously, uh,

Some say that he played a very maniacal role in one of his first campaigns saying – people say, I don't know because I wasn't around, that he was the one postering signs saying vote for Cuomo, not the homo when his father ran in New York City. So this person –

The background of nepotism is something that traditionally is only available predominantly to men. Is that really any better than having people who care about the city, who have levity in their conversations and are fighting to change things? If nepotism is what wins the day, then nothing is ever going to change. And you start to wonder if some of these women...

Really don't want anything to change. And that is the scariest idea. Yes, it is. If they're willing to admit that to themselves. Yeah. And I wonder what that is. It's like, you know, is there a fear that if they step into power that the result will not be better? I don't know. I don't know what it is.

Yeah. I mean, I think the number of women would be like, well, you know, I was sexually harassed. I'm like, yeah, me too. I'm glad we've shared that exchange, but I don't want to have it happen to me anymore. And I would like to not have my daughter be sexually harassed. How dare you, Lindsay? You cunt. Yeah. I know. It's crazy though that a woman would spit in your face. Yeah. How do you... By the way, I had not come forward at that point. This was... First of all, he's like, oh, she did this for political gain. I'm like,

I don't know anyone who would challenge the, this, the most popular governor. And first of all, he said she did it for a campaign. Um, no, I was running for Congress, never mentioned any of this stuff. And then it just so happened that I reached, this woman reached out to me when I was running for borough president. Why would I have done it? You know, it just doesn't make any sense. It's nonsensical. And what I've had to go through as a result of all that, no one woman ever would ever do this for any personal benefit. There is none. It just takes from you. Right. Um, but no, it's, it's,

it's so silly. The whole thing is so silly. How do you not, I mean, you don't seem like a rageful gal. I am. Well, I do channel that. Like I don't know how, I mean, you'll see sometimes like this monster and, and I do it. I, I like to swear. I'm, I don't know if it's like my pirate Irish kind of, but I like swearing. Um, probably more than anyone, you know, in my, me surrounding, uh, whatever. Jasmine Crockett's swearing now on the, I,

anyone who's AOC and Jasmine Crockett, I'm like, please multiply yourselves by a thousand. And that's the democratic party. I could sleep at night. Anyone who is telling you some version of like respectability politics, you can, you can just say that person is, is not interested in making life better. Like, like for,

I heard Al Green was reprimanded privately by leadership for standing up to Trump. When Marjorie Taylor Greene talked during Biden's update and was applauded for it. Yeah.

It's just the hypocrisy. It's like, you know, that's a thing. The human psyche is very delicate and you can only get chipped away at so much, so much, you know what I mean? And so, but I don't, I'm sure I, people like Cuomo, like sadistic, pathetic assholes like Andrew Cuomo, um,

it's like they shield themselves so bad that like, I'm like, how do you chip away at that man's ego? Cause that's the only way to hurt him and poke him. Like my, this, and this is not a healthy way to go. Everyone needs to abandon him. But like when, if I were to get hurt by somebody like that, like I worked my ass off to be in politics. I was so excited to work for you and you fucking did what to me. I would want to physically harm this man and, or, or have him be humiliated in front of people he respects. Yeah.

So that he could feel an iota of the pain that I felt. You know, it's odd. I wondered what I, I've not seen him in person since this happened, but I did, I have stood in protest at two things that, fundraisers that he was attending. Luckily, and I knew this, he'd be going to Fred Hendricks. I thought, ooh, I don't want to meet this. I don't even want to be in the same space as him. Yeah. So I wouldn't say I was afraid, but I was disgusted and I had no interest in being near him. Yeah. I, you know, it just, I don't know where I was going with this, but I think it's, I just want him to disappear. Yeah. I don't want to think about him anymore. Yeah.

I would love for all of our mental energy as women to not be having to focus so much on these pieces of shit. And just having to like be believed by people that don't believe us after we experienced the thing that we a hundred percent experienced. Like that is just a little mind numbing. It's, you know, the only, the only thing that I take solace in that is it's always someone who has self-hatred. Yeah. Um, if someone is saying something like, Oh, well it's,

you know, deal with it or it doesn't really matter. And as a woman, you're like, wow, that's really sad for you. That's very sad. And I feel bad for you. Yeah. Um, I think, and there's a lot of women who work for him, um, still, and they were actually actively part, you know, the woman who emailed me and said the compliment that I was supposedly liking. Yeah, he thinks you look like an ex. Yeah, I was a woman. But as hot as ex's hotter sister. It's disgusting. I mean, and then you're like, well, what am I, I don't, I don't want to make him mad. So what do I do?

I don't say this isn't a – like I don't – you're put in such a terrible – and I hate to use the term, but Sophie's choice. There's no way to react to this. And there was some study that I – and this is one thing I do like to bring up that I don't think is –

brought up enough. Um, and I'll have to find where it was, but how many women when confronted with sexual harassment, speak up and say, stop this vast majority of women don't because they know that the power structure won't benefit them. So this idea, you know, you hear, I hear sometimes in addition to being like, I don't care if this happens to me, which is sad. And that's the other argument is I would have said no. Okay. You're like, stop the vast majority of women and people. Cause it's not just women who experienced sexual harassment, um,

will not speak up and it's because of the power differential. It's just not, that's just not what happens. And you'll be labeled difficult and you'll be targeted in the office. Which is what happened. Yeah. And then no one wants to work with you because, you know, you're costing people money or time or they don't want to deal with the accusations. They don't want to go through a legal case, whatever it is. And by the way, just, you know, to show, show some love for the women who have spoken up and people have spoken to them about their own harm.

Nothing justifies being mistreated in this way. Yeah. So if they're going to try and smear you, okay, I'm the worst person you've ever met. You're standing next to the worst person in the world and I deserve sexual harassment? Come on. Yeah. That is purely deflection from the real problem here. Yeah.

Yeah. And I would love to, and maybe this is how it's going to go in life. It's like, we're all going to be talking about this so often. Our experience is so often and be vote. The amount of the women that have experienced this and our vocal is growing so exponentially, which is so exciting because then, you know, when something traumatic or a shocking or, um, something you didn't think was going to happen, um,

like a man that you had admired makes a sexual advance to you, says something predatory to you. It's so easy for your nervous system to absolutely shut down and do nothing. And that's what mine did for years. Yeah, of course. But that's scientific almost. Yeah, that's what mine did for years. So I think too, talking about this, it's like this is in our ear. It's a bug in our ear. It's in the zeitgeist that this is a thing that's happening too often so that hopefully when the day that it does happen to a woman listening to the show who's never happened to before, maybe we can say, what the fuck did you just say

to me say it louder I would say it louder I would love if my daughter did that and if it didn't take her generation getting there to do that yeah and I and I do say one thing that is nice is you know my mom had my sister at 16 single mother um I had to go through the whole system of welfare and all that and she she fought and I think what she always hoped for me was that I would be a fighter for women and defender and when I graduated from well she's like I kind of thought you'd be more

you know, forceful or, you know, like a fighter. And I definitely am there now. It just took me a long road that I did not expect to be on at all because I thought if I was perfect and I did everything right, then the world would just be better for women. And I realized that was like for me, and I speak for myself, is that was the height of white feminism is just to be like, well, if I'm perfect-

and I do everything that is expected of me and I stay in line and I don't say anything controversial or just in the narrow boundary, then the world will get better for women. But when has that ever worked? When has that ever worked? Yeah, totally. So the only good thing, you're going to see me, you know, people listening are going to see me. They're like, oh, there's that woman again, you know, fighting. Yeah.

Hopefully that means that things are going to change if we're all doing that. Yeah. In some way. Maybe if it just takes us, you know, with the Sally Field role when she's in that union. She's like, I'm mad as hell and I'm not going to take – like all of this stuff. You know, I start –

The longer we live, the more we find ourselves returning to things that seem so like basic. I'm like, Oh my God, I'm doing the thing now. And that is not what I expected at all. Yeah. That's amazing. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you for, thank you ladies. And then, yeah, I mean, I just want to end maybe on a positive hopeful note for women. So you've run for office multiple times. And one thing that I've been really trying to encourage people and perhaps why I'm running for mayor now myself is I really wanted to, you know, support younger, especially women, uh,

running for local office and no one seemed interested and I can tell why. And so I was like, I'll do it and I'll report back to you and then we'll start again. But do you have advice for young people or anyone really who wants to run for office? I think what you said about, you know, not needing someone else to certify you as, as acceptable to occupy the field is incredibly important. That's the foundational point. Like no one is going to say, Oh,

you deserve this, you're going to have to tell yourself. And you're going to have to tell yourself that you have the ability and the heart, frankly, because I know we don't talk about this a lot, but the heart to do these things. I do think that when people recognize your passion, they want to get on board with it. And I think the oddest thing for me was I did this whole polite thing where I kind of didn't talk about so much myself. And I was like, these other people had these bad things and that's why I want to fight for them.

I think it's a lot more real when people are like, there she is. She's out there again doing this. And so I'm not saying everyone has to do what I do because I wouldn't advise that. But authenticity really does matter. And I think the more authentic I have been able to be and real I have been able to be about my own experiences –

the people that I tried so hard to answer my calls and didn't, we're now on the same team. I'm not running. And I, I, I could not mentally be in the space to run right now. I, I, it's just not there emotionally or mentally, but yeah,

I have all the energy to build solidarity and work with, I'm talking to so many of the candidates, I'm talking to so many community organizations, people that didn't want to answer my call when I was just out there. The more authentic you can be about yourself. And I was always, I think, trying to protect myself. I was afraid, you know, maybe like, oh, I'll tell the story about someone close to me, but not me. And I think part of it was me, you know,

blowing up my whole life, which I wouldn't recommend that. But I think the more authentic you can be about your own experience and how it relates to that of people around you and how you want to serve the better. And, um,

You've got to keep running. So, I mean, I've stopped now, but I'm not stopping forever. And that was the third thing. So authenticity and don't wait for someone to tell you that it's your turn. And then don't stop if and when you don't win the first time because a big piece of this, the only reason why we're even talking about this monster, Andrew Cuomo, is name recognition. That's the only reason, really, on a consistent basis. You've got to get your name out there. And, boy, I would love to have –

incredible, cool women and people who support solidarity and want better labor conditions getting their name built and running again. So if you have, you know, you lose the first battle, get up and do it again when you can. And you've got to do that. That's, I'd say, the biggest thing because it is going to take a few tries probably. I mean...

The AOCs of the world, power to them. But the vast majority of stories are a little bit different. And I'm not undermining that, but I'm just saying if and when it doesn't happen that way for you, that is not your sign to stop. It is your sign to rest, recuperate,

uh, strategize and rise up a different day. Now, again, I'm not doing that right now. I have no capacity to do that right now, but in the future, you've already run multiple times. Exactly. Exactly. So, well, and now, and now you have a really good opportunity to be a voice for a loud person. Yes.

Seriously, fuck this shit. Thank you so much for being here and for... I love swearing. I feel a little bit like... Isn't it nice? It's like I'm in therapy. It's a cathartic podcast for sure. Very much so. When I texted, I was like, is it okay if I swear? Is there like some... We encourage it. ...SEC file in our... Fuck that shit. No way. We encourage it. Thank you so much for being here and for sharing all your knowledge, of course. Thank you for this conversation, this platform, and I think it's really badass and...

I really hope women continue to change the world for all of us. Let's do it. Absolutely. And do you want people to follow you as like a call to action or do something else? My call to action isn't about me right now. It's do not rank Andrew Cuomo. Do not rank Eric Adams. Rank five people in the race for mayor and make sure none of those five people are those two bad men, particularly the monster that is Andrew Cuomo.

The reason to rank five again is because if your first choice or your second choice or your third choice doesn't win, you still want to have a say and make sure it's not Andrew Cuomo in that race. So rank five people.

Support public matching funds if you can. Show up at an event for your candidate. Canvas for them. Those things matter. So it's not about me right now. I really need you to make sure this monster is not elected mayor of our city. And do you have anything for people who – there's a lot of people who are either don't live in New York City or who are international. They can still support. They can still – I mean, I will tell you, Andrew Cuomo, having worked for him, hates bad press.

And you know what? There are lots of ways to counter his bullshit media strategy of flooding the field. And frankly, we live in a world now where Twitter and I guess Blue Sky and some of these other social media platforms really are, and traditional media news, are carrying the messages. So even if you don't live in New York City, you can help us take down a monster. For sure. And you can take down a monster anytime.

day. And you can email this, these journalists and ask that you want to stop hearing about bad people. Stop. Their email address is usually at the end of the article. Yes. Tell these and their handles are, and their handles are, believe me, I, I drag journalists not in significant number of times when I feel like they're doing that access journalism and I've had to do it this week and you can do that too. And you can highlight, you can,

say as a citizen of this world that you care who leads the most powerful significant city in the United States. This is not a small thing. This is not a small reality. We're New Yorkers. We like to think of ourselves as the center of the universe, but in a lot of ways we do have a huge impact on the world. What happens here matters everywhere. And I think that a lot of people can have a say about that. You don't have to live in the city in order to be that way. Yeah. And that's what I want. I'm like, I want New York city to be setting a good example, not a bad example.

Oh, my God. Can you imagine if this happens in New York? Yeah. What is going to happen in other places? I know. It'll break my heart. If we elect a monster in this city, what can we be conveying to the rest of the country and the rest of the world? This is supposed to be a liberal bastion. This is supposed to be a place where you can make it if you try hard. Are you kidding me? And you can be yourself. Yeah. No, you cannot be yourself if a man is going to harass you in your job. Mm-hmm.

Yeah. Cuomo said in 2018 to cheapen or ridicule the pain of a woman suffering from a sexual attack is disgusting, sexist and disgusting. This was in, uh, related to Brett Kavanaugh's, uh, yeah, I guess we agree on something. Wow. Cuomo. Yeah, we do agree on something. Yes. You're lying. Fuck. Yep. Oh my God. Well, thank you so much. Thank you, Lindsay. I love that. Thank you. Yeah. Thank you, Andrew Cuomo with that performative quote. Um,

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