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week, January 10th and 11th. Come see me headline with Eric Freddie featuring. And the following week, January 17th and 18th, I'm going to be in Toronto at the Comedy Bar headlining. And tickets for that are available at the link in my bio on Instagram, at Christina Hutch. See you there. Welcome to Guys We Fuck, the anti-slut-shaming podcast. I'm Christina Hutchinson. I'm Corinne Smith. I'm your boyfriend. Slutty, you're horny, and you're

Hello, fuckers. How are you doing today? You okay? You good? Did you check in? Did you drink your water? Did you do stretches? Welcome to another episode of Guys We Fucked. It's the anti-slut-shaming podcast. I'm Corinne Fisher. I'm Christina Hutchinson. Nice. Good to be here. All right. If you want to send us an email, it's sorryaboutlastnightshow at gmail.com. Make that subject line interesting but honest, okay? Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm.

This subject line says, should I leave my husband for my ex that worships my nudes? Ooh, that's tough. Ooh, this feels... Feels like I'm... You know what? They always worship your nudes until they see you nude all the time. I know. I hate that. That's the problem. That's why if you live together, you can't be naked all the time. Men, that's...

Christina, that's an extremely good point. Yeah. I was just talking to someone not that long ago, and it was a really big source of contention in the relationship that the girlfriend was always nude, and the guy was like, I don't want to fuck her anymore. Yeah, because where's the surprise? Where's the body? I'm not familiar with it. Ooh, let me see that nipple. Yeah. Just one. Remember when we were all watching Girls, and we were annoyed that Lena Dunham was nude every episode? It's because we like new. Yes. Men especially like new, but as a culture, we like new. Yeah.

The Lena Dunham thing also had some body shaming and fat phobia, but that's a different thing. It's fun being a woman, huh? And it has gone on to plague Lena Dunham for life based on things I've read. We love you, girl. We love you, girl. Hi, C&K. I love y'all down.

Okay. I don't know what that means. I do too. Is that like dick you down? I hope so. I'm Sierra, 34 female, married to a man, 35 male for six years. Well, that's where you went wrong. Yeah. I'm having an emotional slash text slash video affair with my first love and long-term ex-girlfriend as of the last month. Oh, okay. So there's...

Elements here Yeah I'm bisexual Clear I'm sure From the context given My husband is Type A as fuck I'm type B This is mostly relevant In terms of Household maintenance And financial literacy Which one's type A? The one that

The one where things get done. So is you. I'm type B. Yeah, baby. I fully believe, but it can be overbearing, you know? I fully believe that I landed my husband because I'm more recently fairly conventionally attractive and have an ugly ass

Ex-girl An ex-ugly girl Sense of humor I chose him As a life partner Because he is handsome Financially stable Educated And literate Last month though I reached out To my ex-girlfriend From grad school That not only Is the only partner I've had That has connected With me on a deep Psychological level

mushroom level without the mushrooms level. Whoa. But also gave me the best sex of my life. Damn, dude. To give the best sex of your life without a penis going in is really impressive. Yes. Because I'm sorry. She's good. No matter how much I hate men, the feeling of the penis going inside you is kind of un-fucking-beatable. Yeah, it's pretty good. It's just so good. I know you can do extensions.

It's not. The real penis feels so good. One of my friends who is mostly straight but then dated a girl once, the girl had a glass dildo. Oh. And I saw it and I'm like, that actually looks pretty fun. Oh, interesting. I've never had, yeah, I've never had glass inside me. Me either. I know I'm in, except for the shards that are in tampons. Am I right, people? Okay. It's fun being a woman. Yeah.

I know I'm in the wrong. I'm in the wrong regardless. Trust me. But the impetus of my wandering was that my husband frequently threatens to break up with me whenever we have what I consider normal argument. That sucks. Then your safety in the relationship is completely. But isn't that like what's that anxious avoidance? Yeah, that's anxious avoidance. But you're married.

Yeah no no It's not good It's not great I don't love it Example He was on a week long Work trip An eight hour Time zone difference away And I complained That the only time That we planned A moment to FaceTime He was leaving A company basketball game And didn't want to Stay on the call More than five minutes Because he was so starving After playing Needed to eat And would call me When he got to the hotel I mean that's just Like kind of That's man behavior Yeah

I would be pissed too though But it's also just like It's a week You're married Maybe just like Enjoy the time alone Yeah At close to 3am My time Even though I wake up For work at 5am And had stayed up to work With his availability Uh uh Nope Yeah like it's a week away You can't just like

Be like have a good time. I don't know that that part is weird. Well, I may be mixed with the threatening to break up. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. When he threatens to leave me, he calls me clingy slash needy and frequently brings up his exertion towards our home maintenance as a reason why he feels threatened.

unreciprocated balances in our relationship. When he says these things, it makes me feel like inadequate, even though I have a job that pays the same as his and I pay half our bills. I also clean the house religiously. He's OCD when it comes to clutter and I'm almost irritatingly supportive of everything that he does.

Be less. Yeah, he ain't that for you. Yeah. Again, we've talked about this theory on the show a lot, but I think women's reaction to men being unhappy is giving more when I think the solution is actually giving less and pulling back. It doesn't feel realistic. It doesn't, but then they go, whoa, wait, what's up, what's up, what's up? That's the answer. It's science. It's kind of crazy.

Because I just give less to men naturally, but they really love it. They do love it. Yes. They love you. Wait, Eric, why is this? Why is this? We love space. You love space, but – We love space. This is more than space, I would say. This is like I don't really care that you're here. No, no. It's not even that. It's like seeing your partner naked all the time. It's like – Right. It ups the value of –

It ups the value. I think that's an interesting – it ups the value because – so like it's like scarcity. Right, right. So you know like how in consumerism, capitalism, so the cost of things go up when there's scarcity. So it's a scarcity mentality and it's like now men are more interested. Yeah, yeah. That makes sense. This makes sense. Especially type A people. They love space. Corinne, you know that. I know. Yeah, you do. I do. I love space. I hate it.

This situation or a similar one has happened about six different times within our six year marriage. That's awesome. That sucks. Okay. And I'm sure he has a reason why he's like that, but like that has to get figured out. I mean, that's only once a year.

That would fucking... I mean, look, I... Just like a guy needs a one-week break one time a year? That doesn't seem crazy to me. No, that's not crazy. No, oh, I... But I'm thinking the situation is like he threatens to break up with you. Oh, oh, oh. The threatening to break up all the time. Yeah, you can't do that in a marriage. Yeah. That's weird behavior. Where's the safety and stability there? Yeah. Even if you're like, this marriage has to work out. Like, I also don't think that's a good attitude to have. But like, don't... Yeah, threatening to break up when something...

that you don't like. To me, marriage, like the marriage is the agreement that like unless something is really bad, you're making a commitment to solve the issue. Yes. I mean, if you could, you know, because I'm like, I'm like, I love to break up in a boyfriend-girlfriend relationship, but I wouldn't do that in a marriage.

Yeah I wouldn't either I would be like I made a commitment I'm gonna work on this I feel neglected Lonely Horny I'm so in love With being in love I get you But also You know Pin that And I have the only thing Worse than the ick Resentment Oh girl That is a very Oh I just got goosebumps Resentment is bad Resentment is so much worse Than the ick Yeah And when it creeps in You have to knit that in the bud Get I mean We gotta read the rest of your email But I'm like Couples counselor Might be really good for this

Because then the couples counselor could set him straight and like, dude, you've got to stop doing this. Yeah. So a month ago, I reached out to my ex-girlfriend. Our conversations have been fun, hot, and incriminatingly exciting. I initiated our initial breakup eight years ago because I got a huge promotion making $200,000 a year that required me to move to California.

She wouldn't leave her hometown in North Carolina to move with me due to her own career and family obligation. I didn't want to do long distance and I felt a newfound air of young, wild, free, uh,

Example, I wanted to fuck other people, explore other relationships, and create a better life for myself. I 100% broke her heart, but the split was uncharacteristically amicable given the circumstances. To women, man. Until last month, we haven't spoken in eight years. That's why it feels electric, okay? Yeah. Please keep this in mind. But like, I think of my exes eight years ago, and I'm like, ugh.

No, no, no, no, no, no. Like I am so not attracted to an ex. So if I was, I'm like, there's something there. But it, but the problems that were there, I mean, just be careful. Like the problems were like, I, one of the only intelligent things about relationships that one of my guy friends, a straight guy friend said to me was literally like how electric it feels to like hang out with an ex again for like a small period of time.

Depending on who that ex is to you. I think you also are like not the norm. You really, when you're done with someone, you're really done with them. And I don't think most people are like that. Yeah. Yeah, that's true. A large additional problem. My ex-girlfriend is married. Okay. That is, you know what? That is a large additional problem. That is the first problem. So you're both married. You're both married.

That's what then that makes the energy more electric, which isn't good. Yeah. All right. So this now this whole thing has changed. I was informed by my ex-girlfriend's sorority sister last year at a mutual friend's wedding over way too much liquor that a large point

Point of contention in my ex-girlfriend and her wife's relationship has been that she found nude Polaroids of me wrapped in handwritten love letters from me within the first year of their marriage, which was 2022, in a locked box of my ex's personal things. Wait, how'd she find them? I don't know. They also have a two-year-old child conceived through IVF. Yeah, you can't ruin a family. Come on. I mean, you can, but does that work?

what you want to do come on I tell myself that I'm only looking for validation familiarity and honestly a motivator for my sex drive with my husband from this interaction yeah but I fantasize about taking the red pill and what would have happened if I'd never broken up with her due largely to career induced distance and lust for a life of sexual experiences with other partners you would have broken up with her if you never broke up if you didn't break up then you would have broken

Eventually yeah and it's also like again You can't have your cake and eat it too you made a decision To break up and now like you're Not super happy and so you're gonna go and Like fucking ruin Everything that she has because you know you have This power over her and you're not feeling That you're being appreciated in this Relationships but you know that you have power Over your ex come on this is not good behavior I've crossed several lines Respect for my marriage respect for My ex-girlfriend's relationship And just my luck in general

I don't know what love has to do with it. Given that I'm probably on a high alert list in my ex's wife's brain, given the history of the Polaroids, women are ridiculously good at sussing out bullshit, as you know. So I'm constantly running the risk of my ex's wife finding out my losing control of the situation. Yeah, exactly. You like it because you have control of the situation and you don't have control in your marriage. Are you a Pisces? You nailed it. Oh, I love control.

Yeah. Yeah.

Oh yeah, I know guys named that. I know guys named that but not spelled like that. Oh yeah? Should I divorce my husband because he's not meeting my emotional and communication needs even though he supports me logistically and financially? But does he support you financially? You make the same amount of money and you split the bills. Yeah. I think he's just better with money though.

Oh, because he's a type A. I thought she said she would, but maybe I read that wrong. Even though ultimately my life would be significantly harder logistically without him. Fuck logistics. Two, even in lesbian relationships, they never leave the Madonna for the whore. I'm a dumb bitch, but not that dumb. Three, if me and my ex's connection was the outlier and she left her wife to re-explore things with me, breaking up a family is wild. Yeah, there's a kid, man.

Plus stepmom isn't a thing I'm trying to do regardless. Okay. So this is purely about what this woman makes you feel. You're in a chaotic phase right now and you need to get the fuck out of it. You're not 22. You're 34. Did I fuck up the potential love of my life? Oh God. No. People really love throwing around love vows.

my life. I've seen it so often, so often in Instagram captions lately. Guys, no. I'm like, have you been thinking about this woman since you left her the whole time? She didn't talk to her for info.

I know. And I'm like, are you just, you're just calling her the love of your life because she, her energy is really exciting during a time that your current relationship is leaving you feeling like not like a woman. Yeah. You're calling her the love of your life because you feel bad about yourself right now. And she really likes you a lot. You don't feel the same though. She likes you more than you like her. Yeah. And that's fun. Yeah. When you, and when you're not getting attention from your partner, it's, it's, it can be very intoxicating. It's fun, but ultimately not satisfying longterm. Yeah. Yeah. Um,

Okay. So love you. Okay. So we, pics of my first husband. Her husband. That's her. Super cute. Did she say, oh, pics of my husband first. I thought it said first husband. And I was like, oh, okay. That's her and her husband. Super cute. And then that's the ex. I feel your, I do feel your ex's sexual energy through the photo, I gotta say. Like, I feel like she...

She fucks. Your husband's like actually very attractive though. Normally they, you, that people attach a picture of their husband. I'm like, Oh, I should hear that person to begin with. Yeah. Yeah. He's cute. Yeah. Um, uh, this is her. This is her ex girl. This is her ex girlfriend. And that's the new wife.

Oh, this is her ex-girlfriend. I thought that... Okay, okay. I was confused. Yeah. Because she's... The ex-girlfriend... Yeah, I get it. Well, there's all... Yeah, because I was just like, one has way more lesbian vibes than the other. Yeah, yeah, yeah. But obviously the ex likes femmes. Okay. I would say go to couples therapy with your husband. Like, because... And couples therapy is really cool. I'm currently in it. And it's a great space to like...

It's not even necessarily that... I can say things. I'm not comfortable talking to my boyfriend, but I feel like I have permission to say things out of nowhere that have to do with the relationship and it's completely appropriate and no one's like, well, where'd that come from? Because we're in couples therapy. So you can even...

Say – I don't know though. Your husband – I was going to say your current husband sounds like he's super sensitive if he threatens to break up over a small argument. But like I would say if I were you, I'm like couples therapy, if you establish a relationship with a therapist that you both trust, it's a nice way to say, hey, you threatening to leave me so often is –

guiding me towards other people like I'm and I found myself attracted to my ex-girlfriend and it was exciting and lustful just the idea of thinking about it and so that to me says that we're missing there's something a huge piece of trust that we're missing in this relationship um I say couples counseling for yeah you married each other so there's a reason why you married each other hopefully not just for logistics years and it's like also like you know I think every

you know, like this. So they talk about the seven year itch. You guys are six years. So you're close to like, you know what, what's known as the seven year itch when you probably have to like really put some extra work into the relationship. If it's going to, you can't just like get married and then go, Oh, we're, we're married. And like, why does this feel good? You know, you have to put work into it. So maybe there's, maybe you're feeling a disconnect because the work isn't in, in there. And like, also I would just sit down and have a conversation with him about why he,

Does this thing Where when you get into What you consider To be a normal argument He Like have you ever Asked him Like where is that Coming from Is that Because it's coming From a place of fear Yes I would assess There's history To his reaction And so just like Sit down and ask him Directly Like so many times People come to us With asking advice And I'm like Did you ever like Sit down and have

This conversation With your partner Like maintenance Has to be done Within the Within the Structure of the relationship And it seems like Maybe it's not being done And so instead of Having the conversation With your partner You ran to an ex Because you know That would be an easier You know In quote solution It's not a solution At all It's actually Causing an accident

another additional problem. Way more problems for two people, two couples now. Right. And I mean, I also think like being bisexual must be interesting because like, yeah, ultimately if you want to get married, you do have to decide if you want to spend the rest of your life with a man or a woman. And that's not a choice I've had to make. So I think maybe you have to do a little bit of self exploration, like,

Do you feel like maybe you're actually a lesbian? I don't know. I know sometimes people have that kind of awakening further down the road. That's something I can't personally help you with, though. Yeah. But I mean, I would put some thought into that. Like, think of your relationships with women and your relationships with men. Also, like, maybe, you know, you want to explore...

Your bisexuality a little more You could talk to your husband About that Yeah I wouldn't go back To your ex though I would maybe try Dating women Maybe I don't know

have a threesome. I never suggest that, but maybe because you're bisexual. Right. And also, maybe your husband will like that. I don't know. If you cut contact with your ex-girlfriend, that's going to free you up so that you have the motivation to figure out if you can and want to fix it with your husband. As so long as you're still talking to her, you're going to be so wrapped up in that hurricane of energy that you're, but if you stop talking to her, one, you're going to feel better about it in terms of your integrity and your discernment because it's the right thing to do. It's not on it. It's not an honest move. So,

cutting contact with her is an honest move. And then you're going to be so frustrated that it's going to motivate you to figure this out. Yeah. And it's like your ex right now is like a drug. Like you're using a drug and it's going to end very badly. Yeah. Just like you broke up. Just, just walk away from that. Yeah. There's a reason why your ex girlfriend married her wife. Yeah. There's a reason why you married your husband. Yeah. Yeah. Remind yourselves of that. Yeah. Okay. Thanks for writing.

And if you're in Tulsa, Oklahoma, where are you at, guys? January 10th and 11th, I will be headlining in Tulsa, Oklahoma, Toronto, January 17th and 18th. And then, as always, I have my solo podcast, The Voices in Our Heads. We are getting woo-woo's hell over there. By we, I mean me. I'm interviewing a bunch of people. And this coming Friday, so this will already be out by the time you hear this, I'm interviewing Alan Steinfeld, who wrote the book Making Contact, one of the most

incredible books on aliens UAPs life on other planets with 10 guest authors that used to work for the government and so I'm just so excited and I've been seeing shit in the sky and I've been putting on my Instagram and I sent a video to Alan and he goes holy shit next time you see that call me because I live by the Empire State Building I want to come out and see it because that looks like a UFO I've seen and I go did I just fucking capture one on film and

I'm so excited. I saw the video, you guys. It's so cool. It's so cool. So Voices in Our Heads. And then I have a Patreon where once a week I do group Zoom share-a-pee over the internet. And it's a really cool space. I just had it yesterday and it was amazing. There's just... You could talk about...

wanting to die you could talk about your parents not understanding you and how that's created a huge rift in your self-confidence you could talk about talking to your grandmother who's already passed away you can talk about uh a vitamin you just went on that's really working for you that was one of the things we talked about yesterday it's a great space it's the only space that it's energizing which is not something I expected out of that but I think sharing how you're doing and cutting all the bullshit and just saying hey this is where I'm at

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Having an okay time. The presidential election is coming up and well, wait, I'm doing this here and I'm like, it's not when when is this episode going to air? Well, we can make it air before then. All right. Well, I'll do a promo at the beginning of some other episodes, too. But Tuesday, November 5th is Election Day in America, and I will be live streaming all

All night In New York City On the Upper West Side So if you live In the New York City Area And you want A place to Uh See if we Get You know Our first Female president Or another Four years of Trump I feel like it's a time When you're gonna Want to be around Other people And you're Probably gonna Want to have A cocktail Yeah Um

so head up to the Upper West Side location of New York Comedy Club. That felt like, it felt like the smartest location. That's why I wanted to put it there. Yeah, that's a good one. I asked for that location. Um, and, uh, I don't know the exact start time. It'll be seven or eight start time. We're going to do a little standup comedy to begin the show just to, you know, ease our tensions. And then we will be like live streaming podcast style. Again, if you guys remember the show from, from four years ago, it was super fun. There was T will there be TVs in the

Room yeah we're gonna so We're live streaming with a With a TV that will be Broadcasting like CNN or Whatever network we choose And then comics will be Rotating every hour so Like mini panels so it'll Be like you know like

podcast slash Mystery Science Theater 3000, like political commentary. Definitely being in a room, if Kamala does win, being in a room full of people like that, like that's so special. We might not know. It's so close that I honestly doubt the official, official. I think it's going to be another...

Joe Biden thing where we might not know for several days who won. The channelers are saying. The who? The channelers on Instagram or on YouTube. Oh, okay. All the like spiritual people. Yeah. And so I think, but I think it's going to be like a really fun night. And it's just like, I don't know, a presidential election. I do find like,

Maybe that's like nerdy of me, but I think it's going to be a really fun night. And so there's not that many places where you can organize. I think there should be more, especially in a city like New York, but I wanted to create an additional space to do that. And so I'll post all the info on my Instagram, but yeah, Upper West Side, New York Comedy Club, Tuesday, November 5th, like 7 or 8 p.m. And obviously they'll be going for four hours, but you can come go like you're not we're not locking you in.

So it'll be a reasonable price and we'll have a good time. So do that. And of course, if you want to check out Without a Country, we live stream, except for Election Day week, Wednesdays at 9 p.m. Eastern time. And you can join the Patreon for an additional live, an additional video news story, not live news story every week. It's patreon.com slash without a country. Thank you. And Eric. Sorry.

And then on election night, if you're not in New York, I'll be in Chicago headlining the laugh factory. Um, and then the next day I will be headlining the Vixen in McHenry, Illinois. So come to one of those and you can find the tickets after you vote. Yes. You can vote as early as six in the morning in most places. I checked mail, mail, and you vote if you want to vote or you can vote early. Oh my God. I already voted. I voted the last week. Yeah. Awesome. Please vote. Um,

Christina's so excited to show me something I don't know what it is. If you've seen this article, I'll be like, ah, fuck. But if you haven't,

Okay, because it's from last year. But my friend told me about it, my friend Chris. Shout out at Heel Chris if you want stunning skin. She works in Brooklyn. So the headline is Bride Stunned After Discovering Groom Being Breastfed by Mom Before Wedding. Okay, I actually do vaguely remember this, but it's still... I had no idea. And this is like, they confirmed this to be true? Yeah.

So, okay. A wedding is one of the most stressful times in a person's life. Are you really meant to be? What will the best man speech be like? Will the dress fit? One question you probably wouldn't expect to be asking yourself on your big day though is, did I really just see my husband to be being breastfed by his mom?

apologies if you're just about to tuck in tea but there's no sugar coating this one I'm afraid speaking on the unfiltered bride podcast Georgie Mitchell told co-host Beth a story she had heard about quite literally the mother of all disaster weddings on two occasions I've been told this story I was not at this wedding but on two occasions I've been told this both by makeup artists Georgie explains building the suspense we'll call her Jenny Jenny says to me I did the wedding the other day and you'll never guess what happened

She said the bride needed to go to the toilet just before the ceremony. This is like pre-ceremony. And she walked into the toilet, and what she saw is enough to end a wedding. Now, immediately, her mind is raising what she could have seen that was so catastrophic, it was enough to call the whole thing off.

Reeling off a few scenarios, Beth suggests he was with someone else, maybe having a wank or perhaps, this is so British, or perhaps he was being wanked or doing drugs. Oh, if it were only those things, there had been room for some kind of reconciliation maybe. Sadly, this was, this poor bride was,

saw that what this poor bride saw that day is not something a couple can come back from. Georgia reveals he was being breastfed by his mom. How is his mom lactating if she's old enough to have a son who's getting married? Because they keep sucking on the titty. They keep sucking on the titty. And then I looked it up and I'm like, is this a thing that happens? And there have been recorded cases of

child abuse, but of adult men being breastfed by their mom. But is it child abuse if you're grown up then? Well, no, it's not. It's not, but it stems from a very abusive childhood. And understandably surprised, Bess then says, sorry, what? Why would you marry a man who still breastfeeds? So yeah, so I was watching a bunch of videos on this too. Yeah. Imagine if you think your fiancé is cheating on you and then worse, he's sucking on his mom's tit. Yeah.

That's the worst thing I could ever think of. I would rather have him be cheating on me with all my friends. Me too. I'd rather him fuck everyone that's ever existed than being best friends. Men, women. Anyone. Not kids though. No, not kids. That might be the worst one. That would be the worst. That's really bad though, so come on. Right. Yeah. I was just... When I first read this article, I was like, holy shit. And then I just can't stop thinking about how you pay for a whole day and then...

And it's so expensive and people fly in and then that happens. Like how? And then also how embarrassing because like you have to explain why. Did she cancel the wedding? Yeah.

That's the main thing I need to know. Did she go forward with the wedding? We can only assume they didn't patch things up in the next five minutes and decided to go through the wedding after all. The first clip went viral in late 2019, which seems like a different, more innocent time than those days. According to one groom accidentally caught his bride to be... Oh, this is like other stories. Bride to be cheating on him while he was testing out a camera he had installed in their house. Yes.

Ew. Um, okay. Yeah. Then it just goes into other couples, um, finding out they were cheated on. Um, this fucking website sucks. You really, I, you really have to marry a man look and like one of the most important things is really looking into the relationship that your husband to be or anyone you're dating has with their,

both their parents, but especially the opposite sex parent. Yeah, yeah, that's true. You really got to analyze that. I don't think I've ever dated a mama's boy. I am always, I am constantly, I like to look at every behavior. I wonder if guys care about if the girl's a daddy's girl.

I mean, that's not as gross, though. I mean, it could be. It can be gross. Do you care about that, Eric? Wait, you're saying you've dated a gross daddy's girl, Eric? Yes. I mean, not dated. What did that look like? But it picked, it just, it wasn't like where it was like I was being called daddy or anything. I hate that. That's different. I hate that. That's gross. Yeah, because you're a child. You're a little young for it to be called daddy, Eric. You've got to be bald to be called daddy, I feel like. Yeah.

No, it was just the... I saw them interacting and it felt like... Sexual? Not sexual, but it was too close. It just felt too close. It's hard to explain. Too close. Yeah, how do you mean too... But not sexual, but too close? No, it felt like...

She was like early 20s, but he was still treating her like she was maybe five years old. Oh, like infantilizing kind of thing. Yes, yes. But in a non-sexual way. And then she was acting like the part of a young... Oh, she was acting like the baby. Yes. Oh, God. Ugh. That's weird. Oh, I see. Okay, now I have a clear picture. That is weird. That is weird. I've seen brothers and sisters that act like they fuck. Interesting. That's really weird. Yeah. But I've not met...

well, I mean, I know friends who have dated guys. I'm like, I think him and his mom fucked. I think they had sex. Yeah, I really do. Oh yeah. Yeah. Have you ever dated a mama's boy? Like it didn't get where it wouldn't have gotten that far. I kind of can't tell. Yeah. I've dated mama's boys because the problem is I've dated several people whose parents were divorced. And so they're, they were like single mom, uh, sons. It's really hard not to be a mama's boy when you're, your mom's a single parent. Yeah, that's true. Um,

But it wasn't like none of them grossed me out. You know, like, yeah, one definitely had his mom on a pedestal. But I it wasn't I understood why it wasn't out of hand. But I mean, ultimately, I think like if there was a fire in the home, he would save her before me. So we could never ultimately get married. Absolutely not. That's not acceptable. Yeah. Unacceptable. So I feel like children divorce are less likely to have that than marriage.

that people who keep their parents stay together yeah exactly like a daddy's girl mama's boy kind of thing there is something though when you grew up with a single mother like the boys I know who grew up with a single mother really idolize her because they recognize how much work she had to put in to raise them I respect that yeah I respect it too I respect that yeah but like I feel like I tried to be a daddy's girl it didn't work I'm like oh I want to see what this feels like and my dad was like hi

I'm like, okay, see ya. I'm like daddy's girl, but not, it wasn't like extreme. Like I was still, I like, I would still, I still treated my dad very often the way I treat most men, like bossing him around, you know. But that also, you know, mirrors the dynamic that was, you know, my mom, you know, is obviously the, the,

The alpha. Yeah, the alpha. Yeah. In the family. So, but, you know, and then a lot of times you go on in your relationships and then I'll be the alpha in my relationships. And a lot of times the men I date, when I meet their mom, I go, oh, this really shows me why they like me because they had very strong mothers. A man who didn't have a strong mother most likely is not going to like me. Correct. Pretty much every boyfriend I've had has a very, like, strong...

smart, independent mom. Nice. And so I'm like, I go, this is why you like me. Because I'm just kind of like your mom. Yeah. It's really hard to get away from it. I think it's just the way humans work. People say like you date the person that's like your opposite sex parent. Like, which you have said to me, like that checks out with your dating. Yeah, I mean, that's why I like funny guys. I like, yeah, I mean, like I like quirky guys. Yeah, I mean, there's elements of

James didn't have any elements of my dad, but like Frank definitely did. Guy I'm dating now does. Yeah, the one before that did. Like the ones I like a lot do tend to, except for James, have elements of my dad for sure. Yeah, I've never dated anybody like my dad. I wouldn't, yeah. Not that my dad was bad. I'm just like, no, not my type. My dad's not my type. Sorry. Do you think it's because of the biological parent thing? Oh, yeah. I forgot that. Sorry.

My biological dad. I wonder how it does work, though. Because it's still the person that you acknowledge as your parent. And I think this might be more nurture than nature. It makes sense. Maybe. I mean, I saw a picture of my biological dad. That's it. He's passed since when I found out. And you didn't think he was hot? Didn't think he was hot. No offense. But I also, like, but I will say he seemed through his picture.

Very sensitive and sweet, but I don't know. Oh, so maybe it is more nature than nurture then. Yeah, that's why I wanted to ask his daughter if we could hang out and I could ask her questions, but I don't think she... She's not interested in that right now, which I totally understand. But I'm like, yeah, I have an inkling that he's a sensitive, sweet guy. Yeah, I think it's more personality than looks. Although, I do have a theory that, I mean, because I grew up with a dad with long hair, I love guys with long hair. Yeah. I mean...

Or it's just kind of my personality. I love guys with long hair. Rock and roll, you know? Yeah. Yeah, no, I mean, I don't think my... I wasn't, like, walking around like, ooh, who's this hot guy in my house? But pictures of my dad when he was younger... Hey, baby, you single? Very good-looking man. Yeah, yeah. Very good-looking man. My dad who raised me was very handsome when he was younger. So...

you know, how are you? Uh, I'm good. Things are very, I love, I love fall in New York. I've had a lot of trips lately. I mean, not Las Vegas, but Skank Fest is lovely, but I fucking hate Las Vegas. LA was great. I spent a lot of time with my brother, went to Knott's Berry Farms, uh, which is guys. I know the low, I know like it's more like locals of like, uh, whatever is it like Buena Vista, Buena, Buena Park, wherever it is. Uh,

But you gotta... You're sleeping... You're sleeping on Knott's Berry Farms if you live on the West Coast and you're not going. That place fucking rules. We went on a Tuesday. We had to park to ourselves. Didn't even have to buy a fast pass. It was like 65 bucks. Deal of a lifetime. The name wouldn't suggest that it's like a fun coaster park, but...

Yeah. That's great to know that it is. So good. I mean, I went, you know when you're going on roller coasters so fast because there's so little line that you're getting sick? Yeah. That's what was happening. That's the best. I mean, towards the end, I left with a migraine. Yeah, no, my ex's boyfriend, my ex-boyfriend's dad was in a wheelchair, so we would go to Six Flags all the time, and we would leave, we would get there at like noon. Yep. We would leave by three. Oh, yeah. Like, we rode all of them thrice. We stayed in like, for like,

Five hours I think Because we wanted to Get there earlier But we were Doing too much And like I was eating churros It was great Churros It was great They have the Elvira experience there Because everyone was like Obsessed with Universal Horror nights And it was just like I heard it was too busy It's like $800 To get the Fastpass experience For two people At Universal I had just gone I was like no Let's go here I'm so glad I did Um

what else? Yeah. I did a bunch of fun shows at the comedy store. Dash, I think was the best gas ever. You guys fucking ruled. That was so fun. Um, yeah. And then the only thing I was, I was like in the shower today and I was like, man, I was like, this is, we're in a, I'm in a groove. I'm in a groove right now. This is great. This is my favorite time of the year. Yeah. Yeah. Um, I feel good. I feel like I, you know, I feel like myself again. I loved being a blonde, but I do feel like myself again with like the weirder hair. Nice. I, uh, I,

I got to model for my favorite horror clothing company, Eye Candy. Like, yeah. And I just feel like some good career stuff is happening, personal stuff. You know, good, good, good. Yeah. I do have to probably get in a fight with my co-op this week about renovations. But that's a different thing. And then I was like, yeah, I was like lathering up. And like, I've been using this body wash. And I'm like, it wasn't lathering. And I was like, well, I guess this is why I was at Marshalls. Oh. And then I'm like, what? And then I'm like, no.

Hurting my pussy a little bit and then I Look at it and I'm like oh it's fucking Lotion so if I smelled for the past week And a half guys it's because I have Been bathing with lotion and I and I'm Not all your reaper yeah and so I've Been putting fucking strawberry milkshake Oat milk flavored not flavored but like Scented lotion because I was like it's Really not getting a lather I

And it feels slippery under my feet in the tub. I really understand why this is on discount. It was in the body wash section, which is different from the lotion section. But it wasn't clear then. It wasn't like a gel. No, but lots of them are creams.

Are creamy And I always buy A creamy one In the winter Because I need Extra hydration Living in New York And it was also In a milk carton Shaped thing Which to me Speaks like Oh liquidy Right Like milk carton To me Does not say lotion It says body wash Yeah yeah yeah And it was in The body wash section And yes It's on me ultimately For not more carefully Reading the label Busy gal That's stuff to do You can't read But I

Now I have lotion in my pussy And then I tried to Then I tried to like Get Douch it out But Douching it with a Just in the shower A hand douche Oh

And I have my periods There's a lot going on up there But so So guys If you've been around me You'd be like Wow this bitch smells It's because I've been Bathing with a lotion And then I didn't have Any body wash left Left So then I just Did what I had to do Which was Bathe I used I used dog shampoo I had to

It was Burt's Bees. I said, if it's good enough for Alfred's penis, it's good enough for my pussy. And so this is where we are now. I bathed on purpose with dog shampoo. Because there was nothing else. The only kind of shampoo I had was purple shampoo. And you don't want to... I didn't want like... It really does have dye in it. So I didn't want to wash my whole body in purple shampoo. Yeah, yeah, yeah. John Frieda? It's the only thing. I don't think it was... I don't think it was John Frieda. But I was... Yeah, I mean, it was...

So that's what we did. Wow. You probably don't have tics now. It's not tic shampoo. That's hilarious. That's amazing. I also was feeling like, I feel like in a good zone too. Like just feel good. That's really all I care about. I just want to feel good. Like even if stuff's falling apart around me, I'm like, if I can handle it, then I'm fine. That's how I was for a while. I was feeling good, but things actually weren't going well. Yeah, yeah. I feel like things, you know, knock on wood. Okay.

we're yeah are actually maybe starting to go well I want to do something crazy with my hair but I don't know what to do oh yeah you talked about that I just need I need to feel you can get a keratin straightening but I know you worked so hard to get the curl you probably didn't work hard to get the curl which is fine I don't mind that I mean if anything like I would do like a short haircut and then just straighten it like I it's super my hair straightens super oh it is because I was like really keratin treatment you

You wouldn't have to straighten it every day. I want to do like a color or something. Because curly with a color, no. Like a pink or a blue or whatever the fuck. You could do highlights of it. Yeah. I wouldn't do the whole thing because I think. They do make curly extensions, which I didn't realize. Oh.

Oh, yeah. Which I'm like, that feels complicated because I have eight different type, like eight different curls on one fucking head. It's like pick one, God. And it's changed over the years. Yeah, because I was like, it's really just to add. I mean, for me, it's length and a little volume. But I'm like, you probably don't need more volume.

No, no. I mean, I love huge like Diana Ross hair. But yeah, I want to. Diana Ross hair. Actually, that's sick. Yeah, it's pretty good. Yeah. Yeah, I want to do something different. But we'll see. It'll come to me. It'll come to me. You just got to trust the universe. Speaking of the universe, our guest is a member of it. She's. No, it's okay. You can come in. You can come in.

You can come in. We just can't talk to you yet. Yeah. She has been taking the Ireland's comedy scene by storm. I had the absolute privilege when I was in Ireland doing a gig with Vonda Carlo, one of my good friends and an amazing stand-up comedian and a Kamala Harris lookalike, by the way. You should follow her on Instagram, Vonda Carlo. Anyway, we were there and we saw the promoter was like, oh, you should also see this woman's show. And I was like,

Oh, I would love to. The venue was gigantic. It sold the fuck out. And like, our shows are amazing and the energy is gorgeous. But this woman, the show that I saw, I was just, one, impressed by how pumped everybody was, how gigantic the crowd was. And then her stand-up was just, it blew me away. So she's a stand-up comedian and she is the host of a very popular podcast called My Therapist Goes to Me. Ladies and gentlemen, please welcome to the show, Joanne McNally. ♪♪

Guys, we are here with legendary Irish comedian, Joanne McNally. I'm so excited to have you on. You are... Hey, girls. You are so fucking funny, but there's something that I realized from dating an Irish man. Yes. Irish women are in a league of their own compared to all the women of all the countries. You guys...

Have a no-nonsense, not-tolerating-this-shit – not like in all areas of life. And I've never –

I've never encountered a country where the women are just like they know what they want they know who they are and they know what they don't like and they're very very quick to say it on behalf of all Irish women I'm going to say thank you yeah does that resonate for you actually correct well I think Ireland like it's it's kind of a stereotype but I think often there's truth in stereotypes that's where the stereotypes yeah Ireland in general it's a very irreverent country we like laughing we don't take ourselves too seriously and so the women are the same like I

I wasn't a comedy fan growing up I wasn't not a comedy fan Sure yeah But I just wasn't Right It wasn't on my radar Yeah As such And

So when people say like, who are your comedic influences? It's actually just Irish people. You guys are the funniest fuckers I've ever met. It's embarrassing that they're weightier and faster than I am. I've just managed to wangle a career out of them. But I'm not just saying that. I swear to God, they are so fucking funny. And it's also interesting to me too because like we've had Irish listeners since we started the podcast and along the way they've been informing us about like how behind women's rights are in Ireland. Very interesting.

very recently was abortion made legal. And there's just so many cases of just women dying from illegal abortion because if a woman wants an abortion, she's going to get one. So that's an interesting dynamic to have a population where the women are just so strong, but then the laws are fucked. That's Catholicism.

That's it And like to be fair So the Catholic Church Ran the state of Ireland So we've actually For a country that's only Just kicked out the church We're moving along Quite quickly Like we are progressing Quite quickly I will say In defence of Ireland I know it sounds Kind of medieval But now I mean it is a medieval You go there and you're like My boyfriend was like Oh yeah this is the castle I played soccer in front of I'm like Jesus Christ It's a castle He lives in Malahide The Malahide castle Of course Malahide castle Yeah The castle in Malahide Of course

So I met you in Vicar Street You came into one of my shows Yes You were just hanging around You were doing a show in Dublin Yes And you came in and you were hanging out with the new You weren't with them that long at that stage No We just started We hooked up like a year or two prior And then it was just like It was just on and off and on and off And a lot of off But then we've like dated dated for the last like We were calculating the other day Because everybody asks us how long we've been together And we both say we don't know But I would say three years Yeah It's a nice Two and a half Two and a half amount of time Yeah Irish guys man

I remember, do you remember Simon? Do I remember Simon? Yeah. Of Simon? I know of Simon. I don't remember him. Yeah, I freaked out at him because, yeah. Who's Simon? An Irish guy that I dated who my boyfriend knows. They all kind of know each other in a way. But like I've always, and the first man I was madly in love with was my teacher when I was in seventh grade, but he was Irish. He was American, but like I think maybe first generation. But like there's something about Irish men that,

That really does it for me. What are your thoughts on that? Great question. I'm wrangling with it at the moment because I'm from Dublin, but I live in London. So I'm dealing with English men a lot. They're different. Very buttoned up. Very...

They have like a cockiness You would know it more than I do Yeah But they're very attractive Yeah But they're kind of like skittish or something It's weird It's strange Because you wonder Like in a world that isn't as big as it used to be And everyone's online How there are still cultural differences It kind of blows my mind Yeah So when I And I think I'm a bit spoiled to Irish lads Because I kind of took them for granted Because they're mine

I own them because I'm from Ireland. So I own all of them. So then when I went away...

You know yourself, if you're on holidays, are you both from New York? She's from Jersey, I'm from Philly. Yeah. Okay. But we lived here a while. So if you're away on a holiday and you meet someone else from New York, you're naturally drawn to that person. That's how I feel about people from New Jersey, actually. East coast. Anytime I'm loving someone, I ultimately find out they're from New Jersey pretty much every time. There's a tribalism, there's a shared experience, all that stuff. So Ireland has that. Yeah.

Particularly New Jersey It's smaller Because Ireland's smaller There's a bigger Shared experience Ireland's so small It's small You can drive from One end of Ireland To the other in a day What a big culture But a tiny language That's it I know It's like we're on speed I don't know how we do it Yeah my first trip to Ireland Which is when I met you I did all these tours Vonna and I did all these tours And they were saying There are more people Irish people not in Ireland Than in Ireland There's a lot of Irish people In New York City And all throughout the states We ride like maggots It's great

I love it though More of you I want more of you I don't know what it is We're just a very fertile Fertile country But So when I moved away then I didn't realise How Look How well I had it with Irish ads Because I English guys I found a little dryer Now I have Little dryer Yeah

Like with their humor. Yeah. Yeah. And then but I've kind of I've managed to lubricate some of them to my will. Yeah. Yeah. They probably get a kick out of you. I feel like a British guy would get a kick out of an Irish woman. Yeah they do. They think yeah they. But not in a sexy hot way. I don't. Sometimes it's it's hard. I'm

I'm sure you folks know being a woman who works in comedy it can be difficult it's not a selling point nope it's a deterrent it's a handicap it's a deterrent that's why everyone's like why do you constantly date comedians and I'm like because they appreciate the thing that I appreciate most about myself which is my humor and I'm not gonna like settle for anything

else. And Irish guys love a female comedian. They can handle it. British guys, I don't have experience with it, but like, I can't see them loving the comedy part. It's a harder sell. Have you had direct experience with this, I assume? Yeah, yeah, yeah. So what has gone down in the past to give you this impression? Just because, like,

As we all know It's a power play It just is Even if you Even if you consciously decide It's not going to be It is It's just power It's dynamics It's all that stuff Energy So when you're A female performer And you're on stage And you're selling tickets And you're touring Your own shows There's power to that Yeah of course So men There's different types of men There's men who will come in And try and undermine you Because they're not Comfortable with the power They'll try and kind of

Rebalance the power By nagging you Or pretending They don't care about your career Or pretending They're not impressed By anything that you do Yeah Or coming to shows And kind of like Sitting there with their arms Filled and staring at the wall Which I've also had Oh Jesus Like they're bored by it They're bored by your show Yeah Sitting in the box With my mother In the Yeah yeah yeah Bored bored Bored Oh Jesus Christ Or then there's men Who are like all about it But they're almost too about it Oh wait Tell me more about that Christina

That's my second I'm going to masturbate As in would you like that Yeah Yeah I don't know I mean maybe not though What is that experience Like for you Like what does it look like I think I want to be Gently respectfully ignored Not I see Not

Not adored I don't want to be adored I don't want to Okay Well that's interesting Because that's like That means like You're bringing a lot Of masculine energy Because like the feminine role Is to be adored But it's hard to Kind of flip flop to that Yeah When your career Is so powerful It's It's

It's an absolute melt trying to find the balance. As a woman, like, having a career in stand-up, like, commanding the stage is one of the most badass things you can do, especially by yourself. There's no instruments. There's no cues. It's just you and your voice. It's your energy commanding the stage. I feel like I'm swinging my dick around when I do it. I love it. But, like, yeah, and you come back. Like, when you go offstage and your boo's there, you soften, but you want them to do their thing then. Yeah, exactly.

Swing their dick And it is hard Because then you get into the car And you're back to just Boyfriend and girlfriend Yeah But you've been working The green Like the backstage Because there's promoters there And agents there And all that stuff And it's just I have found it difficult I would say Yeah Difficult I haven't figured it out yet Or haven't met the person Who can figure it out with me It's like Goldilocks It's always one of It's too much of one of the things That's it And there has to be Some middle ground But then again I don't know Because I want them to respect me

Me and what I do because I've worked very hard to get where I am but I also want to sometimes just be like a girlfriend. Yeah. Yeah. It's like a nice vacation like a mental vacation from like the stress of your career. Yeah. So and so shifting in between those two versions of yourself in front of a guy it's confusing for both of you.

Interesting It's confusing for him And it's confusing for me Because it's a dance Yeah It's a dance It's a dance you both do While you're on stage And while you're off stage That's why I think Someone I've gone out with comics before And Sorry They're fun They're fun And I get it They're so funny They're so funny It's so hard To go back To regular funny When you've experienced Professional funny It's very difficult Yeah I went out with a comic once Gone out with a couple of comics Dated a couple of comics I'd say And

I have never laughed as much with anyone as I have with him. And the laughter is very annoying because with good, with laughing comes good sex and all that stuff. It's all tied up. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. But they are mental. Yeah. Yeah. Also that they should be sectioned. Irish guys are like stand up comedians without the stand up comedian. Like they're as funny as a state. Like Colin's the funniest boyfriend I've ever had.

Yeah He's so fucking And he entertains me In the relationship And I'm like thank god I don't want to be The entertaining one Yeah yeah yeah I'm entertaining everywhere else Like you I want to be wooed By your funniness Yeah Yeah That's why it's so nice After shows You know I don't really go out After shows Because I've kind of Expelled

My social energy And I'm happy to just sit In a dark room And drink a bottle of wine But when I go out with friends Before I was in stand up At parties and stuff I'd be trying to hold court And I'd be telling stories And stuff Because I didn't get it Anywhere else Whereas now Because I'm so lucky That I have it at parties I'm mute I don't say anything I'm happy to I'm just so entertained By whoever is telling Funny stories and all So it's the same With your boyfriend It's so nice to have It's so nice Now I'm curious So Irish women

are, the Catholicism, out of all of the religions, I mean, religion, any extreme religion is going to fuck somebody up, sexually especially. But Catholicism, I have never seen a religion do so much damage to people, Irish or not. And a lot of it's... It's not our fault. It was a global issue. For sure. I used to do this gag about how Ireland invented pedophilia, but...

No that was the archdiocese That was the archdiocese Yeah it's like we unionised And we gave them little uniforms And everything Dog collars But yeah no It's yeah I mean what can you say about it Like it's disgusting Well when you were When you were beginning Your sexual career It was with Irish guys Right I assume Because you were like And so because you were up there Did you notice that like They had something That felt like they were holding back No Because my generation We were probably the last generation And again I'm not great on facts I'm a more kind of Sweeping statement kind of person With no data to back myself up

But so my generation wouldn't have been religious. Okay. So my mother's generation would have been religious. Yeah. So she's 70 odd now. I'm 41. So I don't know what the 50 year olds are like. But by the time it got to us, we kind of knew it was a bit of a cut. Do you know what I mean? And your parents were like, yeah, it's okay. Like they weren't so disappointed. Well, no, of course they weren't. Of course they weren't like, it's okay. Are you insane? I remember I was seeing this guy. Sorry, Eric. I just ate them right there. I was seeing this guy.

whose name I will not say. I was just about to say his name. I realized I can't do that. And we were dating and he was very rich. So my mother was obsessed with it working. How rich was he? He was pretty rich. It was all family money, but he was rich. That's the richest ones. Yeah. And, uh,

Say his name is Pat Okay I'd ring my mum And I don't ring my mum that much So usually she senses If my name pops up There is some sort of emergency Okay And she'd answer Is everything okay with Pat? Is everything okay with Pat? Like I could be on dialysis In a hospital It wouldn't matter One thing's still working with Pat Anyway Me and Pat broke up It wasn't working We were on different pages All the usual stuff Blah blah blah Nothing bad And I was like Look it's not happening with Pat And my mother was Like I'd Like I'd

him at the altar. She was like, what? Why? And I was like, well, I just, he didn't really make me laugh. And she was like, oh, and you're so funny, are you? You're so entertaining. Mother McNally.

Anyway, that's, you know, they're like, get over yourself. Yeah. Get over yourself. He's got money. You don't have any money. He has money. So logistical. Yeah, you can laugh with your friends, Joanne. The other thing about Irish culture that I find so interesting, and I say to Colin all the time, I'm like, God, you're so Irish. Like, the shy, and you don't have this, but like, and maybe it's an older generation, because he's 50s, or he's almost 50, so he's older, but like,

like shy to promote and like, Oh, who am I to deserve the spotlight? Like just so undeserving of the spotlight. And which is so interesting to me because you guys are the most talented motherfuckers, like writing poetry. It's all there. I don't know what we, I don't know what we are. We're weird. There's like a shyness with self promotion. It's that we know that Irish people don't, don't,

don't enjoy vanity of any like truly not which is appealing as a people like as a fucking American which we would never know what that's like I look at that I'm like I respect that we like humility we like an underdog yeah we like people who don't

Don't get above their station Etc And you've all agreed on that Like every Irish person There was an invisible memo Went around You're just When you're born You just have that in your DNA You just know To not get ahead of yourself Yeah But sorry I should have finished So your man Pat So we were together For a couple of months Three months I'd say So when mum heard it was over She was obviously devastated And then she said Well you can hold your head High Joanne And I said Why? And she goes Well it's only three months I assume it wasn't physical

There's the Catholicism. Yeah. So that's to show you the difference in our generation. I was like, it was physical within 30 minutes. Wow. And like, how old were you at that time? 30, late 20s. Oh, yeah. Yeah.

She's the thing You did not have sex She's a little girl That's crazy She's a little girl Does she think you have sex now Nah she She's no choice She got the memo It wasn't invisible Oh okay So she's softened Yeah Well she just says things like Sure I couldn't hear a thing When I know full well She heard every single word Well she's probably excited Because she looks at the crowd And the size of it And she's probably like Now you're patched She's patched

She's like, there's money in the room. You're my pet. There's money in the room. Yeah. And what about your dad? Like, is your dad like that? He's dead. He's dead. Okay. How long ago did he die? He's 20 years dead. I know that your dad died recently. I'm sorry. Thanks. Yeah. Bummer. My dad's dead a long time. To the point where it's like, it's not a, you know. Were you close with him? Well, he was very unwell. So I'm adopted. Not that that is a reason. That didn't kill him off. So that's why he liked it. No, he didn't. The first one did. But he...

My mum and dad He was actually English Originally he's from Lancashire And then my mum Was a nurse She's retired now And my dad Had a real Fetish for Irish women He had a real thing For Irish women Oh So when my mum was training As a nurse in London My dad would go to All the Irish dances Uh huh In the hope of trying to meet Well he really was committed to this Oh wow I respect that He wanted an Irish woman He wanted an Irish woman Wow

Wow Interesting So then they couldn't have kids And then she said I'd like to adopt And my dad said I'm not sure about that And she was like Tough shit They're in the car Irish women baby She's like You don't really No one cares about your opinion Yeah It's happening Wow Yeah And now did your parents Tell you from the job? Oh yeah From day one Like I think Because I never The moment you were born The moment they met you You're adopted Just FYI Yeah

You're a plan C Okay No but she It was We were never I was never sat down and told What they did was They made it into a bedtime story Oh that's so sweet Yeah So every night we were told We were loved so much That everyone was like panicking About how much they loved us And no one Everyone No one thought they were up to the job That was kind of how it was sold to us Oh that's so sweet Yeah

Well, also, too, like, I found out it was a sperm donor baby, like, a couple years ago. So my parents kept it from me. But, like, it does, and it's totally different from adoption. But there is this thing of, like, your parents went through great lengths to get you specifically. And I'm like, you're so special. I know. That was how it was sold to us. Yeah. Were you adopted as a baby? As a baby, yeah. So I think it's, like, six months or something. Have you ever tried to find...

Yeah no I found them both Oh how is that Yeah So I'm not allowed To speak about My biological mother Okay no worries Yeah yeah yeah I found them both Wow Yeah and I'm still in contact With my birth father Wow Not so much my birth mother We didn't really There was some stuff there Going on Yeah From both our sides But my father I am He's in Australia now Oh wow Yeah he's got an earring He's really cool

Oh cool Did you look like him? That's what I would be so interested in Oh my god The spits Really? Oh really? Yeah So when I found my birth mother I looked nothing like her And one of the things I really missed growing up But I can't say I missed it Because I never had it to miss But one thing that really I think affected me growing up

was not looking like anyone which you've obviously you have no my brother told me I was the mailman's baby my whole life but my parents didn't tell me that I was the mailman's baby until I was until I found out I did 23andme and got dms from people that were like hey sister and I'm like huh and then I asked my mom and she goes oh yeah oops the casualness of that yeah I filmed it because I thought it was a joke and so I had a sick video of it oh my god of me going uh

What? You did that? No. Yeah, because I thought it was a joke. I thought I did. I was like, there's no way. Maybe my uncle donated sperm or something. There's no way. And I told myself, it's so stupid, but like in the winter, my hands will peel and my dad's hands who raised me peel. And I'm like, he has to be my real dad. His hands peel. I was just trying to like, you know, make it logical. But it was your mom's egg. Yes. Okay. Yes.

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It's so disappointing when that happens. I know. I'm like, I don't know what it is about looking like one of your parents, but it just feels good. It's context for yourself. Yeah. Yeah. It's like anchoring yourself to somebody. Something. Yeah. And Corinne was with me when I met the daughter that my biological dad had raised. And I hugged her. And I mean, it was emotional for so many reasons, but I...

I felt, I don't know, maybe I'm making this up, but I don't know. I really did feel like, I felt that we were DNA related. Like, it was weird. I had to go outside and like, I have a little panic attack and come back. It's a lot. It's a lot. It's a lot. Yeah. And some people feel very connected to their sexuality.

Siblings when they meet them and some people don't and there's just no template for it. Yeah. Yeah. Did you have siblings? Biological siblings? Yeah, loads of them. Loads? Well, they're all halves. Oh, okay. I say that, that's terrible. They're like, obviously they're not. Irish families do have a lot of kids though, right? Well, I have a brother who was also adopted, like as in the brother I was raised with. Okay, got it. And then my birth mother has three kids and my birth father has four kids. Okay. So when I saw his, he's got all boys. Yeah.

Oh wow And em They're all just basically Me Wow Yeah Weird In overalls It's very strange Weird Because they're Electricians Yeah It was crazy It was so bizarre To see They're probably making good money I know My mum would be delighted She's like Hook up with her then Ha ha ha

Apparently that can happen, you know. Yeah, well, yeah. There was a... We interviewed a woman here named Laura who is like... Found out... She was always told she was donor conceived. But like she thought this is her passion. She's in stand-up but she's passionate about this. And she's told us stories about how siblings have had sex. They have, you know, been in relationships. Because you kind of... Like a lot of couples do look alike. Like it's just...

It's weird. Like doing stand-up, you know, you're like, oh, you're a couple? You're a brother and sister. So yeah, it makes sense that you would be attracted to somebody that looks kind of like you. And that you have this. Feels like home. Exactly. There's a connection there. And you don't... Ooh. Home. It's what's for dinner. Home. Oh my God.

Your kids are going to be glasses It's so common that when I was Going about doing my thing I was given a whole pamphlet on it Like particular pamphlet on Like don't ride your family Don't ride your family Don't get overexcited

Wow. I would love to see this pamphlet. I fucking love Irish people. You just say things and I'm like, that's great. That's really good. I go to Ireland for my holidays now, like Christmas and stuff, and I'm like, this is so much better. You feel like the sense of humor of the people at large is just relaxing to be around. The grass is always greener. It's so green in Ireland, too.

The grass is very green. Very green. Very green. But like, well, I'm buzzing around New York at the moment and I'm like, God, I'd love to. Would I live here? Maybe I'll live here. Christmas in New York is special. New York is one of the most, it's one of the most incredible places in the world. And I've not been to everywhere, so, but I gotta say, living here for, what, almost 18, 20 years? I've lived here over 20 years, yeah. Yeah, it's like, man, you really, you know you love a place if like you still miss coming home to it. But there's just, it's like, so,

Sometimes it's like a film set for me anyway because I was raised watching American TV and films and stuff. So like I'm still the one I'm taking film I'm taking photos of the school buses and everything like really embarrassing. No that's true. That's what you think is interesting. Yeah that's very iconic. All that stuff. In Ireland I was taking pictures of every sheep and everyone was just like

So it's the same thing Clovers Yeah All that stuff I'm walking here And the traffic lights And everything But there's so many Characters in New York The other day I was getting the subway And this guy Walked down There's obviously all the Lads dancing with the speakers And stuff Yep Pushing trolleys around And then This lad comes down He's got no top on He's absolutely jacked Yeah He's wearing a shower cap Hell yeah Hell yeah Showtime Showtime I was like Oh my god Oh my god

So New York, so New York. And then he drops down in front of me and starts doing press-ups.

Yep. And I was like, I'd love to take a photo of that, but I can't. I can't. GDPR, GDPR. But like, just like that, it's just character upon character. It's like a sitcom. Nothing is weird here. Oh, sorry, exactly. But it's all weird. It's all weird. You can be bawling your eyes out and everyone's like, yeah, you'll be okay. Like, it's just kind of, and also like we're rude, but we're also like, if you fall, we'll fucking help you. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yours are very helpful. Like very like, yeah, it's a good vibe. Some of my interactions with weight and stuff, I'm like, oh my God, they hate.

Like they're going to stab me Oh really? Yeah They just want the next table And then someone else They're like I'm insanely friendly I'm being gaslit by the city I don't know what's happening What have I done? Yeah It's a crazy city I think I'd love to I'd love to do like a year here Or something maybe Yeah Well you're single right? Yeah Okay Very much so Yeah so you could date a little bit While you're here Do you do dating apps? So yeah So this was where this started I was saying I downloaded the apps I thought I'd be drowning In Ladstown

Which app did you download? Oh, that's a good one. I'm on Ray. I was going to say Ray. Like, no. Yeah, I was like, did you write your comedian on Ray? Because you're not going to get any hits. You have to say something else. Yeah. Say you're an entertainer. Say you're a writer.

Yeah. A writer. Or an actress. Yeah, they don't like us. We had a little experiment where I think you had writer on your... I had comedian on mine. And I stand up comedian. And Chrissy was like... Zero hits. The hottest... I was like, these photos are so hot. You're like, I'm like a model. Yeah. But also we're competing with literal models. Yeah, I know. And in New York, which is the city of models. The hottest women in the world live in New York City. So it's like... All right. All right. That's tough. And it's naturally pretty.

Yeah Whereas LA Like LA is like You could go to the doctor And get that pretty And New York is the worst Kind of pretty Which is just You were born pretty Zero makeup It looks like the light's Always hitting you perfectly And you're like Fuck you bitch You're beautiful I was walking behind A woman A young woman In her 20s The other day And she was wearing This very short skirt And I was trying to see An inch of cellulite Like you could see her Cheeks kind of popping out From by the side Yeah I love that She was stunning

God bless. She's like six foot something. But I was looking, I was like, no, it's not fucking. Yeah. No. It's like she's like a mannequin that someone's brought to life. Yes. Yes. That's all here. Yeah. That's why I'm not moving here when we travel. Well, but it's still great. It's still good. I got to say, and that's like, that's also like when I go to other places and you're like, you're like on the hotter scale, you're higher on the hotter scale in other places. You're like, oh, thank God. Okay.

It is nice but as somebody who's like sensitive to that I don't mind it still And personality goes further in New York Than it does in LA 100% I'd like to get two dates before I go home So you've had none What's your job say? It says comedian? Hinge says comedian Raya probably says comedian as well What's your On Hinge what is the age bracket That you have for men Oh quite young

I do that too But I mean I think like also You wrote your real age And most people are lying And once you start the profile I did I made that mistake too I was honest about my age And you have to lie By like five years younger You get one change Because all the men are lying Everyone's lying I know So you have to lie To keep up I tried to change my So I set up my hinges Going so long And then I delete it If I'm with someone And so So my When I set up my original age I was young Yeah

Do you know what I mean? That's hilarious. I was young. I'd been swimming around that thing for 10 years. So I tried to change it recently. You get into North Korea easier. Yeah, yeah. You don't want your fucking passport and all. No, no, I agree. Well, the thing is, because men,

here so I like to date guys in their 20s too and they are very willing to date people our age but not it not in writing you have to meet them in real life yeah on the app they're not gonna go for 41 but in real life a 25 year old you both look young what age are you on yours I mean I'm not on anymore because I have a boyfriend but when I was I my bracket was like I think 25 to I

39 I think was the bracket that I was but I was my real age I mean I'm 39 and on my apps it says that I'm a 30 I don't I'm not a big apps person but like I do feel like I know for a fact that guys in their 20s will date you honestly just walk around the East Village and make hard eye contact but the thing is you're gonna have to hit on them they won't hit on you that's the only downside I

How are you with that? Go to like Phoebe's. Go to Phoebe's in the East Village. I'm not great at it. Like I... It's so funny because we're both so like in your face, but like I also don't like hitting on guys, but they're into it, but they're not going to make the move because they're afraid of the rejection. And we're on the street guys in their 20s can... I mean, I get straight up catcalled by young guys in the East Village. Like...

Like I've never Like I've never been Cat called by someone I was interested in fucking Until I was Until I was over 35 In the East Village Wow And it's all guys In their 20s It's insane Do you know what You've just reminded me So there Soho House You've saw a house In New York Yeah we have a house A couple locations Yeah well there's A couple of them in London I was in one of them And I was Half clutch Which is obviously Pissed And I went up to some guy I didn't I was just on one I was I'd

Put tan on my legs And I was really feeling myself Yeah yeah yeah My legs were out So I was being A cocky little bitch And I went up to this lad And I just went like Pointed to my eyes And pointed to his eyes I love this I love this for you Joanne Just went like that And I had no bra on me right So I just went Nice Nice And then I tatted off And then I forgot about it And I came out of the bathroom And I was like

And he was standing there And he's like hey And I was like Yeah Oh Oh you're still here That worked That was so easy Is that all it took Anyway he was only 20 something Brought him back to the flat Nothing actually happened One of the girls came back as well And cock blocked me Completely Damn Oh

But I was saying to him I was like He was 25 I'd say Yeah And I was like I'm 40 I'm in my 40s And he was like Well firstly I didn't know that When you did the eye thing Yeah It's like but now I do know it And I don't care And I was like Why don't you care It's just interesting to hear Yeah He said because I think it's attractive Because he

he was like you don't need anything from me he's like I could be sitting on this couch or not sitting on this couch you don't give a shit he's like I find that attractive I love when women don't give a shit in terms of that way and then also that story yeah that's one of the things I love about younger guys you can you can do the power move you want to do because like I the energy in me I want to be John Cusack with the boombox that's who I am but that's people don't when you do that as a woman it's crazy yes it is but that's who I am

In my heart And so you can do The boombox move And get a younger guy And they don't think You're crazy An older guy would be like Lock this lady up What is that about? Because I think They think you want to Have babies right away Well I also think These men You know Men in their 20s They grew up in a time Where women Were allowed to be More confident More front and center And sexual So you're dealing With a different generation Who views women In totality In a different way And I think it's

great yeah and I mean they're you know across the board they're still kind of all assholes so just get a younger guy get a guy who can fuck I was watching Woman of the Hour last night me too I just watched that it's good isn't it yeah

That's Anna Kendrick. Yeah, I saw the thumbnail. And when she does the dating show and the makeup woman leans in and she's like, what I've learned is she's trying to decide which man to choose. And she's like, you're just choosing which one's going to hurt you. Yeah. That was the line of the film. That was the line of the film. Ouch. Yeah. Yeah, that was haunting. Have you had epic breakups before? No.

I only do epic breakups. Go big or go home, baby. No, seriously though, I love hard and I break up hard. What was your most epic one? I wonder if I'm, I wonder, I hope, I would hope because it took me, I think I would say from start to finish.

Five years To really shake it To not give a shit About it Like About Him Oh this one person Yeah Okay Wow Like to not have any anger To not have any resentment It was a solid five I would say Yeah Is this your last relationship No Oh okay This is the most epic one Oh How'd you break up Like what was that breakup like Ugh He hates me

Why? That's fine. He's a cunt. Yeah. Sounds like a cunt. It was very bad. It was very toxic. There was cheating happening. Mm-hmm.

I wasn't cheating on him. He just was one of those guys who cannot be tamed. And that's fine. I just didn't understand. I was too naive at the time. And I was... It wasn't an equal relationship. I was besotted by him. I was obsessed with him. I thought he was God. Which is never healthy. It's not healthy for him or me. No, it's not. And that's a cracked foundation to build anything on. 100%. I think that's...

Immaturity on my part as well I don't think I have that in me again I don't think that would ever happen to me again Yeah But because it was my whole life I thought I genuinely thought We would Yeah Die together Right right right So when that doesn't happen I was Yeah it was just It was wild How long were you together? Oh like a week A week

No we weren't We were together for two or three years I'd say Oh okay That's significant Well it always It's always pretty bad Like when you Kind of worship the guy Or like put him on a pedestal And the relationship ends That's a way tough breakup to get over Because I was like If he's not looking at me I do not exist It was one of those Oh shit I am only real Through this man's eyes I am only interesting Through this man's eyes I am only attractive To this man Like it was I mean And he might have been That type of personality That was orchestrating that Well he

definitely you know a very charismatic man who gets a lot of female attention yeah and I yeah that's also interesting I I've never dated a guy I have this bit that I do on stage about my current boyfriend that I'm like I never thought I was a jealous girlfriend but that's because I've never dated a guy other women wanted to fuck yeah when you do date a guy other women want to fuck like he's a singer and he's like women come up to him afterwards I'm like I don't like that yeah I'll push bitches

I push. Yeah. Oopsies. Yeah. I don't fit. I say this thing. I'm like, it's a little, it's not really. I'm like, yeah, this one woman was hitting on him with his turtleneck. You're so good. And I'm like, I pushed her and she's like, did you just push me? And I said, no, but I did. I did. I did. It is very difficult. But I've never had that, but I've never dated a guy that was wanted by women. I'm like, well,

That's a whole other stress level That you just have to get over It's really And it's really hard Because we're You kind of Believe that jealousy Is an immature Reaction to something But it's not It's actually quite An actual reaction Like I'd love to be That evolved That I don't care If my boyfriend's like Dry humping some woman In the corner I do I mean that

I mean, that's... Yeah. I do a little bit. But the thing is, though, I'm a cuck. So, like, the idea of my partner... For the last couple of relationships I've had, the idea of my partner having sex with somebody in front of me, I have to kind of, you know, be there for it, not him cheating, turns me on, but only when it's orchestrated. I love your cuck. Oh, yeah. I love it. What? It's what I masturbate to almost exclusively. But when it happens in the wild, it's not something like...

We're not at a sex club. We're at like, you know, a concert or whatever. Like, absolutely not. Yeah, because you're not in control. Yeah, yeah. You're like, I didn't die. This isn't... You're doing this... This is happening to me. I'm not orchestrating this. And it's also tough because, you know, a male singer has a sexier... Like, they can express their sexuality in their career. A female stand-up comedian...

It's not... I'm not expressing my sexual nature. I'm not making people horny. I mean, if you are, but it's like... Yeah. You know? Like, no one really likes that. We're going the opposite way. As you have shown on stage. It's true. In your work. My stand-up is not hot. I don't know anything about comedy and stuff. I lose my absolute mind. I'm like a farm animal on stage. Yeah, you're clowning. That's what you're supposed to be doing. That's funny. Yeah, and that's what's enjoyable. The male comic that I dated, oh my God, like, women...

coming out of eyeballs yeah and that like did that make you want him more like did it it made it difficult because like that I was jealous yeah and I and you who do you go with to with that that's it and like you can't stop him and he definitely indulged it and enjoyed it but who was I to tell him that he couldn't do that like he's like I'm not acting on you know it's a it's a mind field I would say it is it's tricky mind field it's tricky yeah because I was

be like if I was you I would just be like I'm fucking Joanne McNally I don't like who like okay have your little fans like that's fine well thank you but this was before I'd really popped oh okay okay okay but now I thought you look back at him and you're like I'd like to think but then I was in this kind of situation with this other guy recently and he was doing a very good job of making sure that I didn't think that he thought anything about my job in any way

And he Like that he was intimidated Or He was like He was like I don't want to say too much Because I'll probably be back With him in a week But I just have to be Rinsed up Yeah I'm like take me back I've been there girl Oh boy It was a funny one Like I would have thought That I was above feeling Being made feel

Yeah. And I'm not. Yeah. And he did that. It happened again. But he didn't do it. I did it to myself in that situation. Yeah. Blah, blah, blah. But there was, it was the same situation again where you, some lads are just gamey and those gamey men, I'm just not suited to gamey men. Yeah. It's exhausting. It's stupid. It's not going anywhere. I don't want a gamey man. I don't want a man who's like following 10 women a day on Instagram. Oh God, yeah. I don't want any of that stuff. I just don't. I want my fucking people.

When you look at his followers And they're all just like Titties titties titties Yeah No no no Oh another Pilates instructor That's nice Yeah yeah You probably like her for her huh Yeah yeah yeah And then when you're And it makes you feel like Such a personality hire Because I don't look like those women That's hilarious And I'm like Oh I'm the personality hire I'm the one he can Haha bit of crack with over dinner He's like You're like one of the lads I'm like well That's really what I I'm so ash thanks Yeah

Yeah that's the least So I don't know I think I'll just be alone It is easier Get a dog It's easier Get a dog regardless Get a dog anyway Yeah I'm just not up for Having my head racked anymore Of course No head racking Yeah yeah yeah Peace But like I could see you Doing well with a sensitive man Like a sensitive Like artistic Until she calls him The F word A restaurateur Yeah

yeah yeah but then maybe he goes ah it's hilarious find someone who likes that you need some but the older i got the more in awe i am of people who do make it work with people because i think it's really hard yeah it takes work it takes a lot of work it takes work like you have to like choose to be there not every day but like you know it feels good when you choose it every day yeah yeah yeah how do you feel about getting really into astrology

Well I really want to believe in something Good start So boy do we have this thing for you I know you girls are into your tarot cards and stuff I At one stage I did think that astrology was a sign of mental illness I am weakening to that I'd love to believe in it Yeah so download the Download the pattern app

If you haven't. I thought you were more on CoStar now. I am on CoStar, but the pattern, the pattern just, I'm like, fuck. I cried the first time I read the pattern description of myself because I said, no one's ever gotten me like this app and I stand by it. So that one's ever understood me the way the patterns. Most 2024 thing I've ever heard. No, but like the pattern

The pattern app will make you go. Don't get me like this AI robot. The pattern app will make you think there's a camera in your home because you're like, what the fuck? Yes. It's crazy. And I don't want to piss on your spiritual parade. You can piss all over it. No, it's fine. I read this book called Paranormality. Okay. Which was basically, I can't remember your man's name. He offered up a million pounds reward to anyone who could prove paranormal activity. Now, I know astrology is different. I have three ghost detectors.

I have divining rods. No, I can. How much money? Fuck, is he still doing that? A million, yes. Wait, he's still doing it? No one ever took it. No one ever got us. What? All right, all right. Christina has some work to do. All right. You have what rods? I'm about to be rich. Okay, go ahead. You have what rods? Divining rods. Divining rods?

Well, and it's also like proven like the U.S. government very famously like hires people who know how to use dividing rods to find water underground. It's like the only thing you can do. This isn't extraterrestrial. This is like paranormal stuff. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Like ghosts, like people who passed away. Yeah, yeah, yeah. That works for that. I love this. Oh, this is my obsession is the afterlife and aliens. Well, so I read this book and I'm quite cynical.

As you should be Yeah yeah yeah totally But Ireland's also very haunted Yeah But okay Vogue who I do a podcast with Maybe I think that Because I'm not from there I do a podcast with A woman called Vogue Williams And she would be like you She'd be big into the ghosts And all that jazz Yeah

I am it But so anyway They were talking about The skill to having Your cards read And they say Like they'll tell you everything So they'll say You're really Good at people They'll be like Corinne you're really Good at people But you're also Not good at people Right But you've got Really shiny hair But also at times You've got really dull hair Yeah And then you just hear Oh my god

You hear what you want to hear. Exactly. It's all the confirmation bias, and then that's what you take home, and that's kind of how it all works. Yeah, that's horseshit. That's absolutely horseshit. I mean, honestly, though, I don't... Yeah, when you just go and get your cards read, I don't understand how people can read tarot if they don't know what's going on in your life. That is still a mystery to me. I read my own tarot. And I have one person who I allow to read my tarot other than that, and that's it. I don't cold go to people. And also, like...

The term psychic I really don't like But all the time That people Most times when people Are calling themselves a psychic They're just using tarot cards I do believe in tarot cards But it I mean You have to be very careful You can get obsessed with them And I mean like Carl Jung I always bring up He was very into tarot cards Great Yes he was Yeah I mean his colleagues All made fun of him But

Well he went wrong He's an epic person In the field of psychology Yeah he is And he believed in Paranormal stuff too I do like the idea Of a bit of guidance Whether it's real or not There's something nice There's something kind of Reassuring about Someone just saying Here's the car Everything's gonna be okay And you'll do this And that's nice It's kind of a bit Terrifying at times When you realise We're all just out here Raw dogging it For sure So it's lovely having that That's why I think

that's why religion was such a loss to people because that it kind of gave them that like pretend guidance yeah well I think religion at its core it can be a really beautiful thing because it could be actual community and actual guidance and actual like be kind to people and if you're struggling let's talk about it like what a beautiful thing and killing people yeah don't do that don't do that don't kill don't kill a gal because she's pregnant you don't want to get an abortion yeah but so what's the draw for tarot for you

I mean, yeah. I mean, I think it's just like giving guidance and making it seem like your world isn't so small. Like you have access to like a larger world outside of yourself. I've always – see, for me it stems – I'm not super into like the spirituality of like crystals. And astrology I only kind of got into recently. I'm very much coming from like a Wiccan perspective. Yeah.

I've been doing Wicca since I was like 12 years old because you know I was a I was in middle school when like the craft came out and so all my girlies we attached to that life is a fight it's tape is a board yeah all day all day at these sleepovers speaking of community like I I go to coven meetings every month like I am in a coven it's on zoom but I'm in a coven I love that because that's like a

That's communal. It's also very feminine. So it's very powerful feminine. So that's what I'm attracted to. I mean, yes. Did I get into very into tarot while my dad was dying? Yes. And I acknowledge that. So you're like at a vulnerable spot and that's when they fucking get you. But, and I have taken long breaks from it. I thought I literally,

The only reason I bought a tarot deck was because Rachel True, who's one of the witches from the craft, released it and I wanted to support her. I never thought that I would. And then I was like, just one day I picked it up and I and I was like, oh, they're not claiming like that. It's like psychic ability to predict their future. You're using the cards to kind of be like more introspective is how I would explain it. And when you pull one for yourself, I'm also not into I think that's BS.

you know? Yeah. And I think pulling a tarot card for yourself with a deck that you kind of love and have, you just, it's familiar to you when it resonates with you hard. You're like looking up like someone watching me like that wild. But like we've had a, we've both had a, um, uh, an experience with the same psychic, uh,

A psychic is not That feels like a cheaper word for this woman She's a woman with a gift is how I explain this particular person She's a person reader Well the first time I ever had a reading with her was 2014 It was ages ago Or no maybe like 2013 And I remember I knew her through a girl that was my friend And she was her family friend And so I was like so honored for her to come into my home and give me a reading And one of the first things she said Was like your dad is dead And I was like ugh And in my head I'm like fuck she's not real

But he was. But I didn't know my dad wasn't my dad. And I'm like, oh, shit. And so the second I the sperm donor thing, like one of my first thoughts was she was right. She also knew like I was on text with her when my dad was dying. She literally like within like 10 minutes of my of me getting the call that my dad died. So at that time, only hospice me, my mom and my brother would have known my dad was dead. She texted me. How the fuck did she know that?

How did she know? She can communicate. It wasn't anywhere. It wasn't online. It wasn't... I mean, unless she's tapped into the... She didn't know the hospice he was staying at. I mean, also, like, if she... And then we were also... You know, my mom was like, well, you're paying her. I'm like, no, actually, she was doing it for free and we were just gifting her money when we felt like it. It wasn't like there was a specific...

like energetically so I'm like there was just some things that happened that were truly unexplainable I don't know who is this woman yeah we'll tell you off tell you off Mike I haven't spoken to her in a while though she's very powerful I have an itch in two bow that's why I be careful anytime I start feeling like the spirituality like becomes an addiction or I need it I don't I purposely don't access it

Like this isn't a man I do like I've often thought about Getting a life coach And I don't know why I just I would love to have someone That you can check in with Who will Kind of put you back On track a bit Yeah sure Like be on the therapist And you're on your own A lot for work It'd be nice to have someone Who you can check in with But I don't need a therapist At the moment I'm actually Grant Right right I'm actually Grant Yeah

Why are you frothing at the moment? Your bottle of wine tipped over. I'm actually Graham. No, such a good name. Life Coach is an awesome thing. I worked with this woman who we had on the podcast, Anne-Marie, who was like a life's coach, but she was also like very spiritually oriented. And it is nice because you're like, you look at all the areas in your life and you look at where you want to change that. Like, what do you want to change? But then like, it's so overwhelming for me at least. I'm like, I can't,

thinking of the first step and taking it day by day is tough, but like they help you go, oh, if you just do this, like if you, like it's the equivalent of if you write one paragraph a day, by the end of two years, you'll have a whole book. Yeah. And like, look how easy that was. Yeah. So it's like they kind of reframe things. They're like, oh, this isn't as tough.

Yeah Reframing is everything Reframing is everything Sometimes you just need A mental reboot Yeah That's what I'm in the mood for I'm in the mood for a mental reboot Yeah yeah Have you ever been to a psychic before? No Oh okay Well sorry I went to one years ago And she was like Everyone's pregnant And I was like This doesn't make sense She said everyone's pregnant All your friends are pregnant

It was in Sydney in Australia And the Australian women They actually They get They seem to have kids younger Than the Irish women So I guess She just sort of sweeping But none of my friends Were even near pregnant So she was full of shit Yeah She gave me the cassette tape And everything though Wow I'd love to take that out But no I haven't been to But funnily enough Even when I was coming in here To the studio Because it's on my mind A lot at the moment Because

I think there's some women who listen to our pod who are recommending psychics to me. And I always take recommendations. Recommendations I listen to. Yeah. I would enjoy just a kind of a check-in. It's really cool. I mean, I've gotten a lot of readings. Some of them, I'm like, I didn't resonate with any of that. And then some of them, I didn't resonate. But then later, I'm like, fuck, they were right. Yeah. And some of, you know, it is kind of hit or miss. Yeah. Yeah. Like, I have a friend who he's straight. Like...

I know I shouldn't say that It's so bad But I just Don't expect to get Don't expect Straight men To be huge Into tarot cards I wouldn't either And I would assume They were gay as well Exactly Just because it's shocking Yeah it's just I mean I'd invite it Like the fish Yeah But he lives and dies By them Really That's amazing He has a regular psychic That he goes to Yeah Oh my god I love this And he's He's like an ex-rugby player Like it's just What? Yeah I know Hubba hubba Wait date him Oh rugby players I know

That's crazy, man. No one told me about them until recently. I'm like, what the fuck? What was happening this whole time? Wall-to-wall masks. They just pull up each other's pants and then put their faces in the ass. And it's not sexual. Like, they're doing it for the sport, but I'm watching, like,

This is the hottest thing I've ever seen. I know a lad who played Rogue before and they used to haze each other really badly. Like how? He said they were forced to eat strawberries out of each other's arses and stuff. I'm sorry, what? Eat a what? Forced to eat strawberries out of each other's arses. That's not a lot of leeway. No, out of each other's arses. That's rude. That's abuse. Isn't it? I said that. Yeah. I was like,

well rugby's pretty gay but like in a way that I like that's sexual trauma yeah yeah that is sexual trauma yeah if he's listening I told you yeah

See? He's in denial about that. I told you. Yeah, sometimes you hear a story and you go, maybe in the moment that felt okay. Right. But in retrospect, it seems not good. Yeah. It was cheering. Can you imagine having to join a book, if you joined your book club, you had to eat strawberries and be sure there's RSS. Imagine you're a coven. That's sad. You know, I can't. No, of course. And I wouldn't. Exactly. Yeah. I'd log off. That's like,

That's like even like more crude than the sex show I saw in Amsterdam where a guy, people ate a bite of a cucumber out of a woman's pussy. But like, cucumber has leeway. Strawberry, you just eat your ass. You have to lick it. You have to lick it out. You have to lick it. You have to tongue it out. Yeah. And these are all like, you know, inverted commas, straight men who were just trying to play sport together and whoever was in charge of the team just wanted to completely humiliate them. Wow, that's fun. But the Thai show that I saw, the ping pong show in Bangkok,

That's next level Next level But also Kind of cute But also stupid And this woman One of the performers She Took a coke bottle Now this is From my memory Okay Like I was I'd had a couple of drinks I wasn't like On mushrooms or anything This is what I saw Yeah I can only say what I saw She had a coke bottle With clear liquid in it And she Leaned back

and she poured it into herself okay fine yeah nothing wrong there yeah normal normal and then she leaned back she kind of like wiggled it around a little bit and then she when she she kind of relieved it back into the bottle and there was a coca-cola bottle and when it came back out it was like the color of coca-cola so it was like a brown liquid whoa and then she handed it to a guy in the front row and he drank it drank it oh boy he

He drank it. Was there hesitation on his part? Her pussy's a soda stream? Like, what is happening here? She put, maybe she put the syrup up her pussy? I was going to say, she must have had like the syrup kind of tablet is in the pussy and then it literally is a soda stream in your pussy. You know, I like, when I was in Amsterdam with the sex shows, I'm like, I was expecting to see sex.

I want to see sex. I want to see a P and V. Is it not? None of it. It's just chicks doing tricks, which it's cool. It's just like insertion tricks. Yeah. I'm like, oh, it's a scarf. And I'm like, okay. What about sex? Have sex. Is there not rooms in Amsterdam where you...

You can look in through Little peepholes And it's people riding Inside the box Oh there was I did not see those But there was There are ladies of the night Like there are sex workers That literally just stand In windows Like floor to ceiling windows And they're like Yeah yeah yeah And I'm like what That's crazy I know They're gorgeous I've seen them They're like just They're like mannequins Yeah It feels like you're In a music video It's real Yeah it's real I haven't been in a very long time What was What's like the most Sexually adventurous thing You've done Oh god

Jesus I'm going to sound really frigid now when I was do you know what when I was younger but it was just lack of resources really I used to ride outside a lot because we'd know where to go oh yeah yeah you know riding in someone's bin kind of and the light would be coming on and off in the garage that kind of stuff

Like I'm kind of normal Yeah I'm just a normal ride Yeah Which is good I feel like Yeah You know we're so abnormal In our careers A lot of people like Do freaky stuff Just for the sake of it And it's like Oh come on If you don't really like that Then fuck it No Like don't do it No no no Like I mean My big thing is I have to be really into them Yes So that's why I like that that's your big thing That you have to really like the guy You have to like them Yeah It's crazy It's crazy

I can't fuck someone I don't like I can't Yeah I don't have that My kid's in my ear If you're not chatting And having If you're not I can't Like So one night stands Are kind of a waste of time For me Right you want high stakes I don't like And if you like them There's high stakes I need there to be Like some sort of

That's the power play too. Sure. Like the, or like the power, not power play, but more power dynamics of like, well, when you like somebody, you're drawn to them. Okay. There's some, there's some electricity there. Yeah. Yeah. And so the best sex I've had is with men that I've been absolutely mad about. Sure. Right. Yeah, totally. I hear you. Have you had sex with men? You've had sex with men in Ireland. Have you had a sexual relations with a British man?

I've slapped a couple of British I've taken a couple of British men down An American? An American have you? Yeah I've had a couple of American Out of the three who wins? Of the four of the world Well I think I've only hooked up with

Two American men Okay And From a numbers game Yeah As in I would say The Americans actually Yeah Were freaks Yeah they were Yeah they were better rides Sorry Americans are freaky Wow And I'm sorry Because I have to go home now And go back to riding The Irish and the English lads So I apologise Well maybe they want to do better And then ask for tips The American guys were Yeah they were more attentive Isn't that funny More attentive More attentive Oh wow Huh Yeah It was kind of a sexier vibe And they were both Kind of hookups

Were they in New York or where were they from? Oh okay Somewhere Somewhere in America A small The states are big I know Yeah But I don't know Yeah I'm just curious They weren't in New York I like attentive I like attentive Yeah Like there was a lot of There was a lot of Yeah Kind of chemistry there for guys that I didn't know that well Yeah Right Whereas I think British lads can be a bit like pump and dumpy

Yeah Sorry Britain Yeah I mean that's your experience They obviously just don't fancy me But that is my experience Yeah Whereas the American men Were more like It was sexier Okay Yeah That makes sense But now But I'm saying that because Because I've Hooked up with so few American men And they were both Very good experiences Yes I mean give me another week In New York You don't know I could go back With a completely different result Sure I think you should go on Tinder

And say Download Tinder Lie about your age Say you're a raider Have some dick Yeah you're so right Yeah I would say Because I was like You're too famous to do that In Ireland But I feel like here While you still can Before you blow the fuck up And you're on everything Yeah Someone actually Some lad in Ireland God loving me Messaged me I was back in Ireland Visiting my mum For a couple of days And I never delete him Just sitting there Yeah You know Just fucking clocking up Yeah

Clocking up now. Clocking up now. More rejection. I'm like, I don't even log on. And some guy DM'd me on Insta and he's like, Joanne, I hate to bother you, but I'm just letting you know someone's using your photos on Hinge. Yeah, that happens a lot. No, it was me. Oh. Oh. Because I was living in London at the time. That's so funny. And he was like, just going to flag it. And I was like, thank you so much. Oh, I'm so glad you saw that. I'll contact customer service.

God damn God damn Do you know there was a girl And it was one of the Funniest stories I've heard Because I was giving out Somewhere I'm always giving out About dating and all And em I wouldn't even know What to do with a good date At this stage I'm just so used to Giving out about them And this woman Messaged saying She wasn't getting As many likes As she'd thought She deserved Right Interesting I love that self esteem She contacted Customer service In Hinge And was like

What the fuck? This is broken. I'm hotter than this. What? I love her. And they basically rebooted her from the motherboard and she got loads of likes and interaction. Well, there was just an Instagram reel going around that basically saying that they save that all the hot people are behind a paywall on Hinge. I saw that. That's fucked up. Yeah. I mean, or a genius. They have a standout section.

Wow. Yeah. And you have to pay to get access. But then also how bad you feel if you get so many matches and you go, oh no, I'm in the free version. That means I'm in the ugly zone. Well, I know I'm in the free version because I dated a guy who was one of the, he was a, he was like, I'm a standout. He said that? He was taking the piss in fairness because we were slagging each other. He's like, I'm a standout. And I was like, am I a standout? And he's like, no. And he's like, you'll never be a standout. And he's like,

You won't be a standout Because my profile Like I'm fully clothed In all my photos I might have a bit of leg On show But like in Hinchman That's practically Victoria Do you know what I mean Yeah He's like the female standout It's like they're quite sexy It's like there's a lot Of bikini photos And I just That's just not my vibe You don't want to lead with that

Because then you're just Then you're just Luring hookups If I had the body I'd fucking definitely leave it No that's a joke I'm like I could put a bikini photo up And then I still wouldn't Be in the stand down I'm the same Damn You're in the stand downs Stand down Put your clothes on Stand down Please So funny I know It's great Yeah it's a minefield But it's also go crack Yeah

It really is That's the one Like plus side To being a comedian Dating is like If anything You're going to get Some bits out of it Like it doesn't feel Like a total waste of time No and I've never really Like even because Because it's so We're so lucky That we get to spin It all into material So it never feels Like a waste of time Yeah And the weirder they are The more interesting And I love telling stories Same as you love Telling stories So like Sometimes you're just Doing it for the girls Yeah And if a guy Fucks you over You're like Yeah

Can't wait to talk about this Dipshit I know I know Yeah That's why I always change their Names and stuff But I had one guy Go mad About a story That I did in the pod It wasn't even about him Oh Oh that isn't the best When they think it's about them Yeah it's like Dude What's not even about you Yeah Wow

Did he accept that Or was he like Okay Jonah It was true He never said We were not in We were Everyone's blocked There's about 60 walls Between anyone Being able to contact Each other at this stage So But he It was passed back to me Via a friend A friend A friend Man when you When you cut it off You cut it off With flamethrowers Well no There was the two of us in it Oh okay You're blocked on this one You're

Yeah it's like that Yeah Now we need like A hand grenade To get it through To one another It's Everything's blocked Better off You're better off Sometimes blocking is Yeah and you gotta put Guardrails around yourself Because you know yourself And sometimes it's just Because with social media Things don't get Full

A full stop The way they used to Because you can see so much So I think sometimes It's really good for the mind To be like That's a full stop I don't mean it to be aggressive Yeah And I know it can feel Really aggressive It's healthy for you But yeah you're like I just need to know That this is done And dusted And that there's no Coming back for anyone here Yeah Yeah That's nice Have you ever had a stalker? No it was not really

Me either, girl. I just saw a girl who you felt bad about. How do you? No, I'm like, every time she gets a new one, I'm like, what the fuck, you guys? Give us your old ones. We'll take them. Just, you know, it's fun to be adored. Well, I think it goes back to like when you were telling the story about how you really liked your boyfriend. I was like, I wish I could have something to add to this conversation. I like your boyfriend.

I like my boyfriend, but I've never idolized a boyfriend. I went through all of them in my head and I was like, I've never, I really liked some of them, but not more than they liked me. Yeah, but you're not an idiot. I was an idiot. Right.

An idiot Yeah I mean With no self esteem And I was like This man is This man's gonna carry me through This is my ticket Yeah This is my ticket to myself Yes Yeah Oh that's the worst one That was all it was Yeah yeah Tell us about Tell me about a stalker Oh Having a I mean Male or female

Male. I've had multiple. I mean, even before I was in the entertainment business, I had a stalker in high school. I had a stalker in middle school. Some gals just don't have it, I guess. My stalker in middle school really pissed me off because I really liked the Spice...

I really like the Spice Girls still. And he handed me a piece of loose leaf and he said, I got the Spice Girls signatures for you. And like, first of all, no, you didn't. I obviously, I have them memorized. I'm a super fan. And then second of all, like my family is in the collectibles business. So I have real Spice Girls signatures. And I was just, I was so angered by him, by him trying to say that he got fake Spice Girls signatures. That's rude. That's rude. I believe, I like looked at it and I said, no,

these aren't real I was like you know how hard it is to get all five of them to sign one thing and they're not signing loosely I think the funniest part about house tour is when you threw in my family's in the collectible business yeah

Because I have a level of expertise. So my dad had gotten me like a beautifully like, you know, Victoria Beckham signature. But you have to get these things verified. Yeah. This is not, this is just not, I was like, I have an authenticated one. My dad's in the biz. Thank you so much. Can you have that?

um no I mean I don't remember if he stopped stalking me and like the thing is like the more you don't want it the more the stalking happens yeah I think like that that's why I haven't gotten stalked yeah because I'm very I'm very cold and distant so a perfect perfect prey for stalking through you yeah they like you know the same way women think like oh I can change this man who never has been uh who's cheated on every girlfriend he's had that's how stalking kind of works with like a cold distant woman I think

Yeah Yeah that makes sense So like I can melt her Right We're not ego really We're too friendly to stop Exactly Oh darn You're too kind You're too kind and You're too kind and loving to stop You're too charitable Exactly That's it Exactly No but joking aside I mean I've heard absolute horror stories And especially Like

It's so easy to find out where we are at any time. I know. Oh, that's why sometimes I just write, come kill me. Yeah. Yeah. I mean, yeah. Like, I'll be here between this time and this time. Because I've had stalkers, but I also had a very serious death threat where the FBI had to get involved. Very much. So, yeah, no, this guy was threatening to kill me with a guillotine. A guillotine, no. Because he knows I'm kind of a vintage girl.

so that was a little fairs yeah a guillotine yeah and um so i yeah i showed up at uh our home comedy club and there was eight squad cars and i was like rough night at the office and everyone's like they're here for you you have to talk to the police officer right now yeah oh my the threat online yeah and because i'm a public person they took it seriously and like play to them he but he the thing but the fucked up part was he had been uh you know that threatening other women in the business but they just didn't have enough instagram followers and i was

Oh darn. Get some special. This is fucked on so many levels. This sounds like it's just a guy who bought a guillotine off Etsy and just really wants to use it. He got WD-40 for the wheels so he can't hear him coming. I just see this guy just dragging a guillotine up the road. Like, we can see you, Derek. We can see you. Yep, yep, yep, yep, yep. He's like the raccoon like in those videos where they're completely still and they think you can't see them because they're still. What a psychopath. Yeah. And do they catch him? I...

I'm a polarizing figure I really rub some people The wrong way So anytime someone Threatens to kill me I'm not surprised Yeah Neither really Since I was a child I've expected To be assassinated So That's true This is fine Did they catch the guy With the guillotine They banned him From every I don't think they found him With the item Um

But I don't know if he had one, if it was kind of on order. Yeah, they banned him from every club. I don't know what actually happened. Because there was a dedicated FBI agent. I know what he looked like, but yeah. And I had to go around to comedy clubs with like, you know,

Little handmade posters Like don't let this guy in And then I had an armed guard For a week for shows And an FBI An FBI agent Who was like On the case Like parked outside His house Like keeping an eye on him Wow That's so cool Who then tried to fuck me Which I was like Classic FBI Yeah But like honestly

you know, fair play to the FBI. That's a lot. That's more than Donald Trump got me. No, he got shot. He tried to assassinate him. Yeah, no. It's so much protection. Yeah, it was. Well, and when I had, I initially filed the report with a female officer. I was living in Harlem at the time and I specifically asked for a female officer and she didn't give a shit. And because like she, like you're not like submitting your Instagram profile with the report. So she didn't, by the way.

She just thought I was like a crazy bitch and but it really was the public eye thing. So they don't care about women but they do care about people in the public eye. Because that that's then bad press for them. Right. You know. Right. Right. Right. That's I think that's what it's all about. I'm listening to a podcast with a man called The Kill List. Okay. And it's about this BBC journalist who was sent there's a

On the dark web There is An assassination Site where you can Pay To have someone Assassinated But obviously it's the dark web So you can't Like it's between Seven and ten grand That's not a lot I'm not selling it Yeah no you can get Someone killed if you Want them killed Yeah I'm not selling it I'm here to do a collab Right

Bye girl This show is sponsored by Bye bye now That's so funny But so They were saying That it's actually a scam So the people Who are running the website They don't kill anyone They just take the money And you can't tell on them Because you can't be like People are all anonymous That's genius This is a great business idea That's genius But someone has But the list of people That they've Those people really Someone wants those people dead So Right So this BBC journalist Is going around Telling these people That someone wants them dead Oh

That's an act of service. Yeah, it's a really good podcast. It's only on episode three. What do you do with that? Yeah, so this is the whole thing. The first couple of people they rang, they were like, we don't believe you. And now they have a woman who they've figured out how to deliver the news properly. They have like psychologists and stuff. But this woman, they're like, you're on a hit list and she's German. She goes, yeah, that makes sense. Boss bitch. And she's like, yeah, I'm going through a pretty messy divorce.

whoa so she knew who it was right away yeah she's like that makes sense yeah so so most of these are they they don't they can't do they have the information of who submitted the kill because that's what i would want to know no because there could be a lot of people i would start listing off names i'd be like is it this is this how long do you have

I'd be like So many people I believe Because there was a woman Who They found The police Because a lot of the police Have like cyber security Yeah Departments and stuff But Because I did a podcast In the UK For BBC Sounds Called Did Furbies Spy on us Because Furbies I loved

I didn't have When they were too expensive Okay They were banned In the White House And on airplanes Because the American government At the time Thought that Furbies Were listening to them Because they were basically The first Alexa But they did respond to you Yeah they were the first Alexa And they didn't understand The programming And the Technology Wow They were freaked about them So they weren't allowed In the White House And stuff

Anyway So I did the documentaries But the documentaries About surveillance and stuff And I had So this guy came around And he downloaded the dark web Onto my laptop Oh He works in cyber security I know I don't know how to get into it It's all cryptic I guess you're not going to get flagged Because you have a pro helping you Right You can't They will flag He was like They will flag You will be flagged That you have it But once you're in there They can't follow anything That's the whole point of the dark web It is untraceable A secure

Wow. So all they know is you have entered the dark web and they don't know why. I'm just looking for styles. But no one knows if they're good. I'm like...

Like literally though, you're the only type of situation of like for research. Yeah, yeah, yeah. But a lot of people are like, yeah, it's for research. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. And his wife's dad. Yeah. But so he was talking about it. But this guy was saying he's like, the police are quite far behind. Like if someone's really good at cybersecurity, they go to private companies or they go. Yeah. You know, so the police are kind of always on the back foot. But anyway, so one woman that they found originally on this kill list was

Was killed Like They found out They told her She knew that someone Was trying to assassinate her They didn't know who That it was all paid in cryptos They can't trace anything Jesus And they Found her She was killed And it was Guess who it was

Her husband Oh yeah It's always the husband Even when it's not the husband It's always the husband Domestic violence yeah Yeah that's a That's a true Just fucking divorce them I know This German woman Sometimes they'll kill you for that They were She was unflappable She was like yeah That makes sense I don't know who that is Yeah that's Gary That's Gary That'll be Gary That's old Gary Trying to kill me again They were like why And she's like there's a lot of money At stake He doesn't want to pay it to me

Wait so that's the one Who ended up dead No Oh okay thank god She's the one She's the one The episode I'm listening to At the moment Okay okay She feels like She's gonna survive Wait did you have Somebody download The dark web On your computer though Personally What does it look like For the Furbies podcast It looks like A normal search engine But you can't just Type in www It doesn't come up It's all very cryptic And I

And when I say I can't even work my Fitbit It's completely wasted on me Okay Okay so it's all like Code words for shit Exactly It's all scrambled And weird And strange Weird Yeah So there's no point in me having it I just want it Yeah I'd just be curious Like what is on there Put it on a laptop

But that's how you get like, you know, that's how you buy like organs, get people killed. Yeah. You see, you can like see videos of like, like Mexican forest deaths. That's like, I remember when I was working at the spa, people knew how to access it. And there was like, you can see videos of people being murdered online.

Yeah And that's the kind of stuff You don't need to see it You don't need to see it No That's the kind of That's the kind of stuff You're like oh hold on I'll watch it through one eye And then you regret it For the rest of your life Yeah yeah yeah I'm too sensitive Yeah no I've seen I saw some things When I had too much Free time at work That I can't unsee And I wish I could Yeah Pretty bad I had a friend Who worked for One of the big search engines And the whole His whole job Was trying to Take like Pornography down Or child pornography

Yeah. Oh, fuck. He lasted six months and he's like, I'm not well. Yeah. I mean, thank you for your service, but also you can't be in that job for two. Like that's, that's gotta be the most heartbreaking bleakest thing you've ever done. Yeah. We're not equipped to see that stuff. No, no. But I also like, I would love to talk to a guy who's like super into like the cybersecurity thing or like not even necessarily cybersecurity. Cause like I've always wondered like in hotel rooms or where I'm staying, like if there's a hidden camera,

How would I know? Well I went As part of that Furbies podcast Went to a spy shop Right So And it just said spy shop Written at the front Yeah There's some here Yeah we've seen those Yeah I was like I was expecting something A little more covert Yeah Nope Nope Spy shop And we went in Best hiding places Out in the open baby Yeah totally And it was all this Surveillance equipment And it was like

That Like so A car key Yeah And it's like There's a recording device in it Wow Or a plug Like recording devices in it Yeah you can put a camera And a plug I know Yeah But I'm like Is there a device That like detects a camera Yeah There is You can go in And you can

Hold on. I don't know. Say I'm staying in a hotel room and I don't know. If I'm like, is there a camera in here? Why would I think that? I don't know. Christina, our security is that we're in our late 30s. We don't need to check anymore. No, people still want to see us naked. Do you know how I feel though? I walk in and I go, ah, another night of being 39. I'm resting easy tonight. So many predators. You just hear someone remove the camera. Yeah.

The camera's all down What happened to Wally Old machinery taken out Bob she's over 28 Nevermind Let's not waste the battery That's life insurance for a gal My take on it is If I didn't know Like I know that's a terrible thing But as part of that Furbies podcast again We interviewed this woman who She bought a nanny cam And someone hacked it

And they'd been watching her Breastfeed her kids They'd been watching her Have sex with her husband Oh my god The camera was kind of Moving around and all Yeah And then it turned out That that brand of camera Had been hacked loads of times And she was taken off the market Wow Any weapon you have It can be used against you So annoying Power Movie 101 baby Yeah I know So annoying Damn I know But like you say I'm kind of like Whatever Yeah If you don't watch me Thanks Thank you Oh my god Just put a Paris filter on it You know what I mean Yeah

It's so funny. You know, just as long as I look good. Oh, that's great. Well, this has been amazing. Is there anything else you want to add? Any subjects you want to, or things you want to say? What would you like to promote? Where can we get more of you? Oh, it's so annoying. I've just finished my American dates. Okay, okay. But I'll be back.

Okay good I still have Nashville and Texas We have a very international audience too So if you're going to other countries So I'm writing a new show at the moment I'll be back on tour next spring Nice JoanneMcNally.com is the website And JoanneMcNally is my Insta handle That's kind of where I live I just live on Insta Yeah me too Perfect Millennials baby I know We love it Yeah Well thank you so much

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