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We fucked. Welcome. This is the Anti-Slut Shaming Bonus Podcast. I'm Corinne Fisher. I'm Christina Hutchinson. Welcome to the show. If you're listening to this the day it comes out or the next day possibly, well, guess what? Are you in Naples, Florida? I freaking hope so because I don't know if I draw there. We'll see. We'll see what happens. I am headlining Off the Hook Comedy Club Thursday, April 24th.
Naples, Florida. Get there. Tell your friends and family. The link for tickets can be found in my link tree link in my Instagram bio at Christina Hutch. So tell everybody you've ever met that lives in Naples. Also, if you're in New York City, we have a very exciting show slash event slash fundraiser happening Sunday, May 4th at 7 p.m. at the East Village location of New York Comedy Club. Politics doesn't have to be a drag, man. It's a drag.
It is a drag and stand-up comedy show to benefit Corinne Fisher for mayor. Thank you. She's going to be mayor of New York City. Thank you, everybody. And she's New York City's first female mayor. Isn't that exciting? Yeah. And just if you're listening and you're interested in coming and buying that, I'm guessing you probably live in New York City. If so, then be a doll and buy those tickets before April 28th, even though the show is on May 4th, because then it can count towards our public matching funds. Oh, yes.
Again, the time constraint only goes for people who are New York City residents. Everyone else, you know. I mean, I would appreciate if you would buy the tickets earlier, but if not, it's a great, great lineup. Christina Hutchinson is going to be performing. Emma Willman. Mm-hmm.
Vicky DeVille will be doing drag, who you know from Guys We Fest and from the show in general. Izzy Uncut, who was a guest on Without a Country and also just an incredible drag performer. Jacqueline Hyde. Izzy and Jacqueline are going to be hosting. So it'll be a drag hosted show, which is just I'm sorry. You've just never seen it. You've never seen a show hosted by drag queens. You've never seen a show, quite frankly. Yeah.
And then we have one special guest who's really exciting who we are hoping to get, but that's TBD right now. But it's going to be a great night. It's only $30. This is like the cheapest political benefit of all time. It's basically like at cost.
So you have to buy it via the Corinne Fisher for Mayor contribute page. And so there is an other option. Do not click it unless you need to buy multiple tickets, right? Each ticket is $30. That is the minimum donation required. Please do not try to donate anything less. We really let it slide last time. And it just like, it just like fucks us over basically. Yeah. So if you want to, you're hurting, if you want to,
hurt the campaign do that don't do that no no we're not letting you in anyway we're not we're not letting you in anyway we're i i would have uh laura our accountant reimburse you yeah um but we were we were kind of chill about it last time and we just can't be chilling about it this time and the first fundraiser event was really cool it was very special and uh yeah so if you want to buy two tickets put sixty dollars in that donation link if you want to buy three
you know, 90. Yeah. Or, or more, you know, if you want to give the campaign more money, we really appreciate it. Or you can have each member of your party buy the tickets separately, like whatever works best for you, but it has, and it has to, you know, we can't sell tickets any other way. Uh, and the normal like two item minimum still applies, but that has nothing to do with the campaign that goes to the club. Uh, some people have been asking about age, uh, New York comedy club. You can be, um, you know, 16, but you have to have a parent unless you're, if you're under 21, of course.
And, you know, the content, we cannot, you know, it's going to be R-rated content. I can't really... Yeah, please don't come if you're... You know, it's not going to be X-rated content, but I would say it's R-rated content. If you're a Republican, you might say it's X-rated. Yeah. These drag kids are trying to make my kids trans. All the drag performers are adults. If that bothers you, I don't know what to say. But yeah, I mean, it's... Don't live here.
it's a, it's a, it's going to be a really fun event and $30. Honestly, it's a steal. It is a steal. It's a steal for the event of the century. It's a steal. It's a steal for any, I mean, even at that club, normally tickets are more expensive, so I really can't make it any less expensive, but yeah, it's going to be super fun. And then obviously I'm not performing comedy. Um, uh,
well, although some would say me running for mayor in general would be a comedic, but I'm going to, I'll be talking, you know, politics at the end or the beginning or whenever, whenever we decide is the best time to talk about it. It's going to be a good night. A little bit, a little bit of both. Yeah. Before we get to our emails, I wanted to talk about my mushroom journey. Oh yes. I had it. It's so funny because I was listening to, when I was listening to the microphone noise episode for clips and,
uh i i there was that moment where he was telling me about this journey that he did with this woman and on the show i was like give me your info and then so but incidentally the day that his episode went live was the day i did the journey oh with that lady yeah oh okay perfect like that's cool there's a lot of like weird synchronicities around like me going there but um yeah i did uh she's like you know like a like a like a medicine woman kind of you know um
Dr. Quinn. Yeah. And all, you know, when you do psychedelics in like this therapeutic setting, they're, they're, they're referred to as medicine and I totally get why. Um, it was really interesting. So I did a combo of stuff cause we had a conversation beforehand and I told her about like I did ayahuasca and nothing really happened. I was just like chilling and having a good time, but nothing like crazy, no clicks or anything. Um, but I, I enjoyed it.
And so after talking a bunch, we decided to do – she has these chocolates that she's done herself that she gets from this guy. That's a mix between a little bit of ayahuasca and mushrooms. And we also did a little MDMA beforehand or I did. She didn't do any, which I know is like that's already approved to be legal in New York where they're just like waiting on all these clinics. Anyway, so I was like, OK.
Let's do it. Whatever you think. You've been doing this for decades. Wait, had you not done MDMA before? I've done it before. Oh, okay. That's what I thought. Yeah, and it's very – it's enjoyable. It's very cool. It feels like a hug. And there's a lot of studies of – I actually have an article up about a couple police precincts that did therapeutic doses of MDMA for all the officers in that precinct. And the number of times they fired their gun went down astronomically.
which was cool. So yeah, I, a lot of cool things came up. I had like weird memory. I don't know if it was other people's memories or have visions. I don't know what you want to call it, but some realizations came to me that were pretty cool. I'm sure I'm not the first person to ever say these words or think these thoughts, but I've, I personally have never read this that I recall. Love and nature are the same thing. It's such a, it's such a you. Yeah. Yeah.
Love and nature. Same thing. I need to – one of the emotions I want to prioritize is neutrality but joy from a neutral place.
So I have this pattern of either like everything's really great or this is the worst ever. No, you want to be neutral. You want to be in the middle. You want to be in the middle of that pendulum. And so like experiencing joy from this more neutral place instead of like joy that's kind of hooked to a certain outcome or just like my addiction to hope kind of thing. It's great. My therapist describes that as being content. Yeah. Yes. Yes. A hundred percent. I think there's a lot of value in being content. I think being content is a pretty great goal.
And I mean, this one, this is a concept that a lot of people are talking about, but it was like, I don't know, just make clear to me. Things really do, they have to crumble to rebuild and the crumbling can be like terrifying and painful. But, and this more on a national scale, more on like America, you endanger girl kind of scale. And a way to preserve my energy.
for me personally is to like reduce the amount I talk every day to like 50% by 50%, meaning like using word economy in my everyday life and on like this podcast and on stage, you know, try that out. And I had visions of random people in my life.
parents didn't come up at all which i loved honestly worth the whole trip on it that was my favorite part that's very i'm very excited for you i was so happy i'm like i can't wait to tell corinne this that's excellent good for you fucking once good for you nice what a nice mental vacation such a nice yes so nice um but i had you came up and i had this vision and it was so sweet
And I wanted to talk to you about this. Like, I don't know if this is a memory you have or maybe I just pictured it because I know you. Who knows? But it was you as a little girl. Oh, fuck.
five, six, seven. You were in a yellow sundress and you were playing with your dad's hand. You were kind of like, and I don't know if your dad was doing that. I don't know if he ever did that with you where he swung you by his hand. Yeah. Cause he was so tall. So definitely. So he was like, you were playing in a park on the grass and you were in a yellow sundress and you were so happy. You had bangs. So you, yeah, you were a kid. I definitely had bangs. Yes, I did. And my mom cut them and they were crooked. Oh,
I was an old girl. When I was, when I was, by the time I was six, uh, I don't remember if I was seven, if I still had bangs when I'm six, I'm pretty sure I like, cause I have an, a pretty vivid, uh, picture of my school picture from when I was six. Cause it was a good one. Nice. Um, I think they were straight by them because when I was real little, she did them. Um, and then she was like, sorry, I'll take you to the salon. Yeah.
Sorry, girl. She's like, my bad. Yeah, I think you were... Bangs are very hard to cut. They're tough. You were like, I would say four or five. Like, you were young. Yeah. And yeah, and you were in this like...
halter top sundress. It was yellow. And you, yeah, you were just like playing with your dad's hand. And it was just like a really, I mean, I was crying during the whole thing, but, um, because of, it was just very beautiful. But, um, that was just a really like, yeah, it was like I was a little fly on the wall for you and your dad at a park when you were a child.
it is undress. Yeah. I'm like, it's not a, like a, it's not a memory that I have, but it's not a memory that could not be true. Cause I mean, I definitely had a yellow dress. I mean, I've had multiple yellow dresses, you know, I did have bangs. Um, and, and you were so laughing, like you were laughing at my dad. Yeah. You were laughing a lot. It was very sweet. Oh yeah. I was much more joyful as a child. The world ripped it from me.
This is true. I was actually thinking about that concept the other day about how I was like, I was because I like my personality, like at its core is very much the same as it always was. Like, so when people talk about like honoring their inner child, like,
It doesn't really connect for me because to me, I'm that's, I'm the same girl. Yeah. I'm not a different girl. So I don't need to honor her cause she's always with me. If that makes sense. I'm just like, it's always been me. I don't, I like, obviously things have changed, but I never like my core does not feel like it ever changed or like I left or anybody or anything. Um,
But, yeah, no, I was so friendly and, like, outgoing. Yeah. And would wave to everyone in the supermarket until they would say hello. My mom said that I would just say, like, if I was in, like, you know, the front part of where your legs can dangle in the shopping cart, I would just, like, say, hi. Hi.
Hi, you were one of those kids. Hi, until someone said hi back to me. That's so sweet. So, I mean, obviously, still highly motivated to get the results I want. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Well, that, and I would describe that as like very, like, and I don't, I don't even mean it in relation to your mayoral run, but like very mayoral energy. Like, like,
The woman that led, she had a dog that I said, she had two really cute poodles. I'm like, this one dog has mare energy because he's like, who are you? Hello. I hope you're having fun. Who are you? Just kind of went around and checked on everybody. And so, but like, yeah, that's the energy you're describing as a kid is very like marital energy, like a little mare energy.
But yeah, I think, and I was like, why did that image come up? I wonder why. But as you talk, I'm like, oh, maybe one thing that did stick out is like how joyful you were. You were just like very like the opposite of shy.
Yeah. Um, well that's the thing I was like, Oh, that's interesting. Yeah. I'm a lot more shy now, which is weird. I know like no one would be like listen to this podcast and think of me as shy, but like I'm pretty shy in real life. And then, uh, yeah. And then definitely a lot more, uh, joyful.
As a kid. Yeah. Yeah. Well, because I mean, I was so I was not that I was I don't want to say I was surrounded by joy. That's like I'm not an accurate reading of my like, you know, I wasn't like wasn't like that. But yeah, no, I mean, like, you know, this is kind of like feeds into what I talk about all the time. It's just like the more time that I spent in the world amongst people who were not safe people, a.k.a. not my mom, dad and brother. Yeah. You know, the more.
Well, that's why I am shy now. Right. Because I learned that other people are not safe to be around. And so I cannot allow myself to be, to let them in. Yeah. Yeah, totally. Um, so yeah, that came up. That was really lovely. Kevin was with me and he was, she was physically with you. Yeah. So I had this, uh, she like laid out like a giant like mattress on the floor and she was on the couch. She's like, I can, you can talk to me. You can not talk to me. I can go fuck off. Like whatever you want. Like, I'm like, well, I don't,
I probably don't want to talk to you during it, but I mean, we'll see. However, I don't know you. Yeah. Who are you? Like, however I act is how I act. But there was like a safety of like, I was super excited to do it and very open minded because there was someone there that I'm like,
if for some reason a bad memory or something pops up that's scary like i have support so like that that was really cool i've never had that right um because even when i did the ketamine infusions as a nurse she's not there to talk to you she's there to check your pulse like oh she's not there for any mental health you can do uh ketamine infusions with a therapist but i i went to fucking drip club where everybody gets their botox so that that girl wasn't trying to help me through drama oh i didn't need anything you know there was at first like am i gonna
going to die. Whatever. If I am, it's fine. Like during the ketamine the first time. But it's that that's a very gentle drug. Anyway, that was really interesting. A family friend popped up who's going through something tough.
her husband has a brain tumor that potentially fatal and he popped up and I was just started like, I was like, I'm a shrink. Your brain tumor. Who fucking knows? I just, that's just what I said and thought. Right. Kevin was there and there was a moment where he was laying like a purse. He sometimes he, he lays like a person in a bed. Yeah. He puts his head on the pillow. Yeah.
So he gets the sheets so they're like up against his chest. Like he looks like a toddler. It's so cute. And I looked over at him and he was just staring at me with like the eyes of a horse. You know how gentle a horse's eyes are? And I was just –
but it was because I'm just like, you're so beautiful. Remember when we did shrooms at the tool concert and we went back to Justin's house? No one will ever let me forget it. No, but like that moment you had with his dog before he passed, like you were, you were feeling like that dog was ready to go. Oh yes. I was fully in a dog bed with a dying dog. Everybody. Yeah. But you were, you were really, I could tell like she's so connected to that dog. Like she's talking to that dog. Highly upset about that dog. Yeah.
I wasn't upset, but it was just like I'm somebody who gets moved to tears over the beauty of life anyway, but I feel like I got better acquainted. Like that got like dust off, dusted off a little. So I have more access to it. And I also realized I told Colin this yesterday. I'm like –
I'm more sense. I know I appear to be very sensitive and I am, but I'm much more sensitive than that. Like I hide so much of it. And he goes, yeah, I know. I'm like, oh fuck. Really? Jesus Christ. Um, can't hide nothing from you people. But, um, the people closest to you. Yeah, I know. Um, but it's like, I got like this message of like, you're,
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And then this morning I had an Akashic records reading, which was very interesting. Busy week. I know they just kind of happened to fall. Like I scheduled these all like months in advance and they just kind of happened to fall on the same time. Uh, and, and she clarified something about, um, just the general future that I'm like, I fucking know it. Um, shit's going to get bleak. Uh,
uh, it already is. She's like, we're going to pay. And I, and I, please, I do not mean to fear monger it. That is the last, if you fight, if you feel yourself getting scared, skip this part then. Cause that is so not the fucking point of me sharing this. It's like having a heads up and being able to be like the most grounded version of yourself when shit goes awry. That's it. That's it. Cause shit goes awry. Hurricane ruins a city. Authoritarianism happens. All right, well, we're going to figure this out. And, um,
And, oh, another thing that came is like just the last thing for the mushroom trip is people that are politically active and that are like really upset about the annihilation of Palestinians and just so, so many fucked up things happening, the way Trump's behaving in Israel.
The bullying nature of the leaders, especially in America, like it's really bleak. But like – and it's important to fight. It's important to show up. It's important to protest. It's important to all of that. But it's just as important to have moments in your life where you're not reading the news and you are having fun with your friends. That is like almost just as important for the balance because you can't go out there and fight and stand up and be there and show up for yourself and for others if you don't have that recruit time. So anyway, this –
The Sakashic Records reading, I learned a lot about myself, which that stuff's just mostly interesting to me. But I think something that was interesting for the collective –
is that, yeah, I think we're going to slip into authoritarianism pretty quickly and it's going to like not be good, which we already see the signs of it. We're already kind of there. I mean, I'm fully waiting for third term Trump for sure. Yeah, something like that's going to happen or if Trump goes bye-bye for whatever reason, Vance feels worse than him, but that's just my like feeling. No one told me that. He's younger, so he just has a little bit more energy and equally bad ideas. Yes. And I think he might be dumber.
I hope he's dumber, but I don't know that Trump had his like Easter message that he read to people. Oh, I didn't even see that. It was it wasn't his words because he speaks dumber than that. And he's always spoke dumb when he was on Apprentice. He spoke like a like a like a dummy. But, you know, before we knew how shitty of a person he was or how much of a puppet he is, he's like, ah, he's harmless dummy. Like he's just a harmless dummy who came into money and is a twat.
You know, that's what I thought of him before he ran. But yeah, so there's going to be another like pandemic level thing and where we're going to be shut down, but like for longer in a more severe way. And like she said, access to money, access to financial systems, access to it's all crumbling. All your financial systems are going to crumble your butt. And should I take my money in my seat out of like why I in stocks, but they're in like, yeah, I, I, I, yeah, I, I have, um,
to put in like a safe or something. Um, and just, you know, I got a generator and I got backup water, just whatever. And she said, but she said, you got a generator in New York city. Yeah. Oh, like a power. Oh, it was, it wasn't that expensive. It was a solar powered generator. It's tiny. Oh, okay. It's like, uh, yeah. And it gives you like, I don't know, 12 hours of charge or whatever. Um, but you know, and if I never need it and that's absolute horseshit, yay, that's fine. Um, and,
And then she told me, she goes, listen to – she goes, there's this podcast, Next Level Soul. I'm like, I love that podcast. James Von Praag. He's a medium. He's a psychic guy. I'm like, I know that guy. Like I knew everything she was telling me already. And she's like, yeah, listen to this latest episode of his about an hour in. Like he pretty much describes it. Every time I do these Akashic readings for people, I'll see like everybody's immediate future in America is kind of similar. So that means there's going to be like all these shifts.
And he kind of breaks it down in a way that's exactly what I saw. I'm like, okay. So I went to listen to that. He said April is a month of assassinations. I mean, we're already towards the end of April and I don't think anybody's gotten assassinated. So that's good. But yeah, he, and he said something, there's this fungus that's growing. That's like deadly. That I think is going to cause, he said he thinks it's going to cause the next pandemic.
Sick. And a lot of, right? Fungus is pretty severe. Yeah. And it spreads quickly. My brother's old grammar school got shut down in my hometown because of that. From like a deadly strain? Yeah. I mean, after he was out. But we go, well, how long was it there? Yeah. Probably a while. Probably a while. Like with that, right next to that asbestos. Yeah.
It was my favorite thing because the school's not, what's the name of a mascot? The school's mascot in Union, New Jersey, a dolphin. What? Whoa. What does that have to do with anything? Nothing to do with Union. I think dolphins do come up this high, though. Not to Union, New Jersey. Union, New Jersey is not near. It's not a beach town. It's not beachy. Truly the dumbest thing I've ever heard of in my life.
It's fucking great. But yeah, so those are the main things that I got and that I thought were very interesting that I wanted to share. Mm.
So it's cool. Well, and again, just if, you know, just if any, not to cross American hysteria, it's not just America where these things are happening. This is, this is, you know, pretty much worldwide. I mean, you know, they just had a ruling in the UK that trans women aren't women. And, oh yeah. So like, I just want to clear up that this is not just happening in America. This is, which is,
Actually makes it worse because it's a global issue. A global right word movement is happening right now. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. It's not great. It's not great. Got to show up.
But I just don't, you know, I don't want everyone in, you know, UK and Canada thinking that they're in the clear because you're not. Yeah. So yeah. All hands on deck. All hands on deck. And then make sure you get like a good balance of like resting, play and action. You know, calling, calling your senator or congressperson is not nothing like flooding the phone lines of your local congressperson is actually very impactful and very helpful. So that's exciting. Yeah.
All right. How are you? Did you want to share anything? Did you go on a psychedelic journey? I did not. I have not done drugs in quite some time. I think my days of drugs are over, quite frankly. Yeah. But I did go to Easter with my boyfriend's family, though, which is... I go...
I go, I know this doesn't mean anything to you, sir. It's huge for you. I go, wait till Christina hears about this and the guys we fucked audience. Yeah, how you doing? You okay? Yeah, no, it's fine. Actually, they were very nice. He's got good energy, so I would assume his parents got good energy, but hey, I know that's not always the case. His parents remind me a lot of my parents. It's actually very freaky. It's like sitting with my own parents.
Really? Cool. Yeah. Weird. Yeah. Very weird. I mean, especially his mom. But also like there was a point when I was just like looking at him. I was like, this kind of looks like my dad. Like this is. Wow. Fucking straight. Like if my dad had a more like my dad had like long hair and like big beard and stuff and like kind of like a cool guy look. But like if my dad had a more buttoned up look.
Oh, interesting. Yeah. Did they like you? Oh, I had already met them. Oh, I met him. I met, I met his parents literally like the first weekend we were dating because they have like other weird, they have like a house, um, uh, upstate. And he, he, he described the house, um,
the layout of the house in a deceptive way. Do tell to get me to go there. So like, he made it seem like it was like a, like basically like almost like we would be in a guest house and I would basically like could say hello to them while he already knew you well. And then, well, I mean, also it's like, who the hell, I don't want to meet your parents. The first week we've been dating. I don't even want to meet your parents first week. Weird. Yes. And,
But I was like, I do want to go away to a cool lake house with my dog. So it's literally on, it's like Dawson's Creek. It's like literally on the lake. That's great. It's a lake front house. And so I was, yeah, we get there and then immediately I assess the situation and I go, this is just a house. Yeah.
There's three bedrooms upstairs and they're all together. Oh my God. And it's his brother and his brother's boyfriend and his parents. And I go, I mean, they're all there. All there. Oh Jesus. The brother was fine. I actually know the brother is in comedy to not stand up, but improv. But I knew I had worked with the brother before.
like years ago. I don't know him well, but I, you know, I showed up and he was like, he was like, I think, you know, my brother and like we had worked on something. He's like a friend of a friend and stuff. But yeah, so we had worked together years ago on something just coincidentally. But yeah, no, I went to, yeah, I went to Easter dinner. Um,
And like, like I showed up late because it was like clear that my boyfriend, like as, as Easter got closer and closer, it was like kind of clear that he wanted me to come, but he kept asking me in a way that I,
was trying to like sell it to me in a way that would be good for me so deceptive yeah and so I said and I so I just cut right to it I said babe I'm there's nothing you're gonna say because he was like trying to sell me on dessert and stuff and I was like I'm not meeting your family is not worth a piece of cake yeah you know or hanging out with your family so I yeah I was like
I feel like you want me to be there for you, which is a completely acceptable ask. Yeah. I was like, you have to ask me that way. Yeah. Yeah. I was like, you cannot stop trying to reframe this. Yeah. And so leading breadcrumbs so that there's something in it for me. I go, there will never be anything in it for me. The only thing that's in it for me is I'm happy to go to support you if you want me to be there because I care about you. Right. Yeah. And that's a completely acceptable reason to do something. But I go, I go, this angle that you're trying to play of me of getting to organically make
me want to go, I go, that's never going to happen. Yeah. Stop barking up that tree. I go, that tree got cut down. I go, this is not going to happen. I mean, also like, I just like say crazy things, like not on purpose, like his mom was like, so Corinne, if you were, when you, when you sit down for a, you know, a holiday with your family, like how many people would it be? My response? No shit. I wasn't even trying to be funny. I just go, well, I'm the oldest. So this is a little bit macabre, but not many. Cause they're all dead. Well,
That's true, though. Facts is facts. But that was the honest response. I have a tiny family, and it gets tinier by the year because everyone... That's it, yeah. But yeah. I mean, also, but then they told some crazy story about, like, slaughtering lambs for dinner in the old country. Whoa. I mean, it seemed like we were all aligned on what kind of stories we were telling. Yeah.
Ooh, I bet they have ghost experiences. And then me and then the brother's boyfriend is a vegan. And then I'm sitting there, you know, pescetarian. And we're just like, we're with the animal killing. So we're just like, Oh yeah, that's tough. We're like, Oh, glad I missed dinner because he showed me a picture of it. It was two hunks of veal. He goes, he goes, he goes, Corinne. It was like, actually like,
over the top how much, like how meaty the meat was. Cause it was like, yeah, it was veal. And I go, it's literally the worst meat. Yes. Yes. Yes. I go, agreed. Tell me what, like the most heinous, the most heinous. Oh, oh, that's tough. I was like, what was it? Veal and foie gras. Oh, that's tough. And so I was like, glad I missed that. But yeah, no, everyone, everyone was nice. You know, obviously at the end I had to, you know, talk about the campaign, but that was fine. Like they've all like, they've been, um,
especially his parents have been like very supportive of it, which is very kind. Um, so yeah, that's great. That's lovely. But I did it. Good for you. I, I, I have, I have to parent hang twice. Yeah. I had some really big, and I flew to a wedding in, in Palm Springs, right? I had to have some really big talks with myself. Good.
Good for you. I'm proud of you. Over the past year. Immerse yourself in new experiences. Yeah, I mean, they're not good, but they're not... You know, it's just... I just go, okay. And it also just helps if I have someone who knows that I don't want to do it. And there's nothing wrong with any of these people. They're all perfectly nice. I don't like doing stuff like this with my own family. It's just... I don't know. It just doesn't... It makes me feel uncomfortable. But yeah, he...
I was like, as long as I can be honest that like, I don't want to like, this is not something that I find joyful. Yeah. Right. As long as I can be honest. And then, you know, that I'm just doing it because I care. Like, but not like, like, I'm just doing this because I care about you. Just like that. That's why I'm doing it. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Totally. So as long as I can be open about that, then I'm fine. Right. So I just can't be pretending that I'm like loving it.
Yeah, nor should you. And that recalibrates his expectations, which is very wise. And again, it was fine. The dinner was totally fine. There was nothing – I actually didn't even feel uncomfortable at all. It was fine. I mean –
I guess the thing that made me feel most uncomfortable was the house of the people that we were in who are not... Who are like a little more distant relatives. Like, they were just so wealthy that it actually made me feel uncomfortable. Oh, really? Yeah. Wow, he doesn't wreak wealth family. Well, his family is not. Oh, okay. That's why it was like a distant... Jesus. Yeah. Whoa. Yeah. So I was like...
That just, I don't know. Yeah. Extreme wealth is, there's something creepy about it. It just made me feel, it just like, I just go, oh, this is like, I don't know. It also made me think like, I'm like, I think a lot of people think like all white people live like this. Really? Yeah. I think there is like a, like there sometimes, and I go, oh, I like, I was like, oh, I completely get like the disconnect. I go, but I also feel disconnected from this. Yeah.
Right. Right. This is not this feels so foreign to me. Yeah. The more I see people who are wealthy, like the more I'm exposed to it, I go like I was like laying in bed last night and I was like, did I grow up poor? You just grew up middle class compared to this seems more middle class than other people's middle class.
What do you mean? My middle class seems like less than. Oh, I see. I see. I see. I see. So maybe it was low, which is fine. Like, is it fine? But like, it's like, you know, it took me till 39 to even notice. So obviously it did not affect me. Also, our parents grew up in a generation that could afford to have one job to buy a house. Yeah. That was a unique time. Both my parents had jobs, but yeah. Yeah. Like they could buy a house with their money. Like that's, that's a little like, it's, that's a tougher goal. Yeah. I think there's just like so much,
like so many parts of life. And I think politics has also really opened, like exposed me to this more that like,
That I just didn't even know was going on. Like the amount of wealth, the amount of education, the amount of experience, the amount of travel. The educated elites are fucking up a lot of things. But even like their points of view, I'm just like, I am so far removed from this world. Thank God. I just have no... Again, they're nice people. I'm like, wow. There are so many levels of...
Yeah, that I have just never been exposed to. Yeah, yeah. That type of wealth makes me, frankly, uncomfortable. But I don't know why. Maybe it's because I've never been exposed to it until I moved to New York. And I'm just thinking, no wonder there's a class war brewing. Yeah. But I also find, too, that those ultra-wealthy people...
They're not fucking happy. Not a lot of them are happy. If you're able to get an education and you enjoyed your education, I think your odds of being happier are higher. But like, I don't know, man. You go to like... Whenever I go to Mexico, I fucking love Mexico. I love Mexico so much. I love the people of Mexico. They're just the shit. I've traveled so many different places in Mexico. And...
And every tour I go on, they're like, yeah, like we don't Americans. Y'all have this weird idea of happiness where it's like material things. And it's like, that's just not our vibe at all. Like, and their graveyards are really celebratory and like they celebrate color and beauty and art and, you know, things that matter. I feel like when you're ultra rich, like your relationship to art is so fucked. Cause you're like, I bought a Banksy. Fuck you. Like Banksy would poop on your grave. If he knew, if he knew baby.
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Okay, let's get into some emails. How long have we been going? I didn't, I forgot it's time. We're at 33. 33. Okay. Corolla. All right. If you want to email us, you know, sorry about last night show at gmail.com today. This first subject line, he's holding my dog hostage.
Good morning, ladies. I'm a 29-year-old female. I've been listening to y'all for a few years now. I love the constructive criticism y'all give. I'll get to the point. My ex I was with for four years is holding my dog hostage. From the very beginning, he was cheating, lying, and abusive. Cute.
I should have ran then. Yes, I know. I put up with it for far too long. Fast forward to about three years ago. It was a cold Tuesday evening. I received a call that no one wants to get. Oh, my little cousin slash best friend had passed away. I didn't believe it. I ran into our bedroom completely frantic, told him what happened, and he said it was about time.
Okay.
and just be my friend. I found this perfect little pup at my local shelter. He was perfect in every way. We did everything together. He brought the light back into my life. About four months later, I had a coworker that I was very close with pass away. My ex then decided to break up with me because I was too sad for him to deal with. Thank you, Colorado, for being so dang expensive. Sadly, my ex and I ended up living together broken up for two years.
Because it was too expensive for either of us to live on our own. Get another roommate. Yeah, I was like, switch out and get a roommate. Find another couple that broke up and live with the girl. The mental and physical abuse continues. My dog got to the point where he'd sleep on top of me and growl at my ex anytime he'd even pass by the room. Good boy.
This past November, I was offered a job down south making life-changing money. There was no way I could pass up this opportunity. Sadly, it meant I had to leave my furry friend with my ex for the time being until I had a proper living arrangement. Fuck, really? Now that I have everything set up, my ex is refusing to let me take back my dog. Yes, he sends me pictures every day, but that's not enough. My pup and I should be together. He is registered as my ESA. Oh, then fuck it. What? What?
You go to the cops, girl. I tried to go retrieve my dog and my ex called the police on me. Okay. Okay. Okay. Okay. And they took my dog from me. Since we are by common law married. What? Really? That shit still exists? They are saying I have to go to court to legally get my dog from my ex since we got him together.
I'm trying to look for ways to get him without having to go to court and missing time from work for court. My question to you guys, should I just let him have my dog and just move on? What? No! No! What? Although if you're asking that question, maybe. I know. I'm like, I kind of question you as a dog parent, but yeah. No, this is your dog. This is your dog. What? What?
Should I go take him while my ex isn't home? No, you can't do that. The cops have already been called. She's just going to call them again. I know, but.
Yeah, but you can, but then you're going to end up going, then you're going to have to, you're going to end up in court anyway. And for, and for the wrong reason. True. Or what should I do? I'm at a loss. Pictures of my dog are attached. I mean, you're at a loss. Go to court. You have the solution, right? You're making good money. Say it's an emergency. It's your dog, baby. What? What? Yo, if hell no, I wouldn't put up with that for two seconds. You're going to court. You're going to court and you're getting that dog back.
Because you're not going to take him while your ex isn't home, even though I would probably do that. Well, it's just it's not like an ethical issue. It's just like it's not going to work in your favor. You're going to get the cops called and you're going to have a bigger problem. Which is going to be down south.
He has... This is not a person who doesn't have her information. Then she'll have a warrant out for her fucking arrest in the new place where she lives. Yeah, that's probably not good. Yeah, okay. Go to court. You don't need that headache. Go to court. Go to court. That's crazy. I would lose my mind. That's crazy. Go to court. But also...
But also, what's going on here? Because you left the dog with your ex who you said was abusive in the first place. Surely there was no one else who could have taken the dog. Also, if it's a ESD dog. And then secondly, now you're asking us if you should just let your ex have the dog. No. Those two questions weirded me out a little bit, quite frankly. It makes me question...
your love for the dog a little bit? Like, did you have, did you just, did you want a dog or did you just want a dog to make you feel better from all the grief that you went through? And the dog did its emotional job and now you don't want to put, deal with it anymore. Ask yourself that question. Yeah. Be honest with yourself. Keep that to yourself, but be honest.
and then move accordingly uh all right so this is all of my friends are ghosting me hi ladies long time listener and loyal bonus fucker i couldn't think of anyone better to go for to for advice besides my therapist but i'm currently waiting for my insurance to kick in so thank you in advance uh just let's clarify we are not licensed to therapy no we are not uh i'm a 30 year old straight female single usa at the beginning of last month i lost my job that i had been at for three years i'm
and was very passionate about. I was absolutely devastated, extremely depressed, and scared of the lack of control I had. I immediately started applying and interviewing for jobs, doing Instacart for an income in the meanwhile. I also was working heavily with my therapist. I am really locked into my self-care and workout routine.
I'm now at a new job and I feel very at peace with myself and my life. What happened was awful, but overall is the perfect journey for me at this time in my life. I have four girls that I have been friends with for years that I would consider my best friends, but this month has really opened my eyes to some things that bother me. Only one of the other four girls ever reached out to me
after learning I lost my job, three of them never sent a, how are you text or anything? How'd they learn you lost your job? Did they talk to you or was it an Instagram post? Cause if it was that, don't assume they saw it. Yeah. Meanwhile, I reached out and also like maybe they were offended, you know, who knows? People have like a lot of things going on in their minds. True. Uh,
Meanwhile, I reached out to each one at least once a week to see if they would like to get together. I was either told they were busy or they simply would never respond. Two of them are bartenders and I went to visit them multiple times. I brought one flowers on Valentine's Day. I treat my friends the way I would want to be treated. And I know that means I go beyond what others can or will. I've always been that way.
But don't do it so that you get that in return. Sign up. You know, you've signed yourself up for a life of disappointment, ma'am. I've confronted two out of the three of them with no improvement. I told them that I'm tired of being the only one that makes an effort, but I've had this conversation with them before. A few times over the years and nothing ever changes or improved. If I didn't reach out, we would never speak. Okay. I mean, you're answering your own question here. These aren't your friends. If I didn't go to the bar they work at, we wouldn't see each other. Okay.
Okay. At this point, I know if I stop reaching out, I'm going to lose these friendships. They don't exist. Right. It's one-sided. And I'm tired of hanging on to people so tightly that I leave claw marks. Is this normal for your 30s? Are my friends trying to break up with me? Am I being ghosted? Any and all advice is welcome. Thank you.
I mean, is it normal for your 30s? I mean, I think it's normal for life in general. But I mean, as you get older, yes, it's harder to maintain friendships because people have things, you know, different priorities. And a lot of times it's like more familial priorities or career priorities. So, yes, friendship often does get pushed aside as you get older. That does suck.
Yeah, it does suck. And some people rely on the friend – the other friend being the reacher-outer. And it doesn't necessarily mean like they're annoyed with you and they don't reach out. I don't know. Everybody handles responding to texts, reaching out, all of that, all of those like friendship hygiene things. I'm learning as I go. People just handle that very differently and I've had friends –
my past tell me like you don't respond to tech this is like years ago I'm thinking and I don't know maybe it was because I was a little younger but I like I I appreciate when someone's like hey this behavior of yours like gives me anxiety and like you might not mean it this way but this how it makes me feel so I just want to like inform you so that when you do this just please know like this is how it's making me feel okay fuck yeah sorry didn't know that really good information to know but then other times when friend like my one friend that I don't talk to anymore not because exactly of this
But she would always like, you never respond to me. You never respond. I'm like, I'm busy. And if I'm overwhelmed mentally, I don't look at texts. The only two people to this day that I respond to immediately, Corinne and my brother. That's it. That is it. That's it. Sorry. You know? But also I hate like, like I get it.
I don't know. I don't know. Sometimes there's people like – this is a family thing. Families do this a lot. They're like, you never call. You never call. It's like, you could call me. Yeah. What? That's a generational thing, I think. Yeah. But yeah, I mean, it also seems like at the end of this email, you're kind of like – it feels like you're having a little bit of like a –
like a reckoning moment like this, this seems to be a pattern in your life. I doubt it's just these friends who you feel like you've put a lot into and you have received little in return. Like based on how this is making you feel, it seems like this is, I'm guessing, a pattern in your life for other relationships, whether they be romantic, friendship, family, whatever it is.
Um, so yeah, I think Christina's right. I think really like evaluate why you put so much in relate into relationships. Do you think that you need to put that much in to be deserving of those relationships, you know, uh, or like, do you put a lot in because you want a lot more?
Because then you're going to have to find a different set of friends. There are friends who, you know, if you give a lot, you will get a lot. But that's obviously not this friend group. Right. But so like look – do you truly find joy in overgiving or are you overgiving out of anxiety that –
you know, you feel like you, you need to, or you need to like outshine everybody in the friendship department. Again, like I'm not saying you're like, I'm not trying to be like, it shouldn't be like a negative thing. Just like really evaluate why you're, you're doing that. Um,
And if you think it's a worthwhile pursuit, but those people in particular that you're talking about right now, these are not your friends. Like there's nothing to maintain here. They've already told you with their actions that they are not interested in the, in the friendship. So like, there's nothing to maintain here.
It's done. Yeah. And that happens. But like good news is your 30s is not death. You can certainly find more friends. And like the laws of the universe are such that like when you kind of stop these friendships, you make room for better ones that serve you.
So, and that are more fulfilling and enjoyable. Yeah. And like, not that I don't want to make a sweeping statement about bartenders. I mean, like I certainly love, you know, drinking days and bars and stuff, but like, are these like drinking friends? I feel like when you transition from twenties to thirties, like,
Like there are friends that you will realize we're really just drinking friends or party friends. And so maybe you're also at that stage where you need friends who have like more, like are going at traveling a similar pathway in their life or have similar interests or are pursuing similar things. Like try, you might want to try that. Yeah. All right. Next subject line, homophobic MAGA parents who pretend I'm not gay.
Hi, Corinne and Christina. Thank you for all you do. He pretends I'm not gay. You go, la, la, la, la, la, la, la. That's wild. Thank you for all you do. You've made an impact in my life. And Corinne, thank you for running for public office. I'm from Miami, and I wish we had a copy of you to save us from this living mag of hell down here. I'm 28, female, came out to my very religious, very conservative parents about six months ago. Fun. I bet that was fun. The first thing my mother said was, why? Why?
Followed by, you know trans women aren't women, right? Jesus Christ. Did you come out as trans? She probably came out as gay. She just threw the trans. What the fuck, man? This is wild. Anyway, aside from that very problematic statement, it has nothing to do with me as I am a woman dating other women.
You can guess how the rest of that convo went. Turned into a political rant. This was right before the election and my mother is extremely susceptible to propaganda. That sucks, man. That's sad. If any cult leaders are out there, she's your perfect target. My father was equally disgusted. Over the next few months, I took their silence on the subject and their seemingly normal behavior towards me as them trying to come to terms with this, only to discover they were pretending I didn't tell them at all.
When confronted about this, my father told me things like, I don't think you're actually gay.
I think you don't have God in your life, and this has allowed you to act on an urge that you wouldn't if you walked with God. Girl, God's walking me down to the lesbian bar, so riddle me that, bitch. And my personal favorite, quote, I don't want your brother and sister's kids to grow up thinking being gay is okay. Okay. Oh, God. He also compared it to pedophilia, saying those people have urges too. It doesn't mean we should let them out.
act on it oh now we're fucking goats we're gonna get into fucking goats in just one sentence i'm sure your parents are hack homophobes yeah i said all of the right things i was diplomatic and sensible but it's like talking to a wall if walls could be homophobic my mother on the other hand after asking her for just some basic acceptance and to treat my partner with basic human decency and try to get to know her accused me of extorting her you cunt what
So do these MAGA parents and ask somebody with MAGA parents. They're so fucking afraid and they're so dramatic that they go to these. They go to these sweeping statements. That's like, how do you not find this funny, dude?
Saying I only wanted to have a relationship on my terms, forcing her to go against her faith for my own comfort. In that conversation, she also shared with me that she had feelings for women. Oh, when she was growing up. There we go. There's the juice. There's the pussy lesbian juice. I love it. She wanted her to she wanted to be a boy.
Wow, your mom's straight up trans. Oh, my heart goes out to her. I know. My heart really does. I also am like anyone who is that susceptible to like joining a cult, I do have empathy or sympathy for because like
That's not a great way to walk around life. No, ma'am. No. And your mom's in a religious cult. That blows. She wanted to be a boy, but she didn't act on them. See, that's the thing with this. I don't know if you're a millennial or not. How old did you say you were? There's 28. So yeah. Are you a millennial, 28? Yeah. Younger side? Well, I think that's like the youngest one. Yeah, I think 28 is the youngest millennial, I believe. Millennial kids with baby boomer parents, please.
The gap of communication and what we're willing to accept and tolerate and talk about and understand and accept is just wild. My initial reaction was pity for her not being able to explore this part of herself, to which she said she's glad for it. No, she's not. She's happy with the life she has now. Is she? Mind you, she's the most miserable person I know. There's the truth. It's clear these people would rather live a comfortable lie than know their daughter. Yeah, girl, it sucks.
I have confronted them three times about this issue, and each time I feel that once the conversation ends, they go back to pretending. And that – I got to be honest. I don't know that that will ever change. My parents are both emotionally stunted individuals. They think me being gay is harmful to them and frankly seem to be offended I even told them. They have also villainized my girlfriend, blaming my gayness on her. Jesus. Jesus.
I'm not here asking for advice because I want to be close with them. I respect them. Why? And their opinion, again,
Ask yourself that. That's an ingrain. No, so little. That's an ingrain. Read the sentence. I respect them and their opinions so little. Good call. At this point, that all of this effort is to keep a relationship alive for their sakes, not mine. Good. I'm glad you realize that. I am very content with the life I live. I don't center my life around my family. I center it around my well-being, and those two things do not coexist clearly. But each time I go to a family dinner event, I feel like this part of myself has to be left at the door. Yeah, so stop going.
How many family events do you have? You're 28. You can start going to less. My question to you is, is this a pointless endeavor? At what point do I stop trying to salvage this relationship? Today. How do I communicate with adults who have the emotional intelligence of a rock? They don't believe in evolution. Just to give you some insight into the shit show, that is their psyche. My dad thinks the world is around 2,000 years old. This is rough.
This is, Oh shit. Any advice is appreciated. Thanks for everything. Honestly. I mean, I would just stop talking about being gay with them as give them some books because this is actually, that's wild. That's a bummer, man. Honestly, I know you don't want to hear this, but like they're victims too. Yeah. Yeah. No, totally. They're victims of Fox. I feel really bad for them. This, they have,
they have been stunted by their, you know, and I'm sure that, you know, this goes back to how they were raised religiously. Like they have just been cut off from information. This is like a tragedy. It is. Um, there's like infected with this virus. That is awful. I would try to make, I would leave some books around or like a pamphlet. Uh, this is, and also to like take a bit of natural history museum. Um,
Yeah, I mean, this is... Show them a fossil that's over 2,000 years old. Yeah, I mean, something. Like, just as much as you are a victim of their behavior, like, they're a victim of whatever environment they grew up in. So I would approach this with some empathy. Yeah. They just do not have a lot of information, you know? And they're very quick to believe the dumbest shit. And it really breaks my heart that your mom is either gay or a trans man. Like, that sucks. Like, that's...
Yeah. This generational thing too is like, well, a lot of parents – our parents' age, a lot of them have this attitude of, well, I suffered and I didn't live up to my – I didn't indulge in these beliefs, so you can't either. Like –
That sucks that they think that that sucks that they still continue to hold their own happy unhappiness. And good for you, man. You made you made a big leap from where you where you came from to where you are now, like a little cycle mentally, like very impressive. Yeah.
Yeah. So I'm curious, like what kind of toll does this take on you? Because if it takes a really huge toll, that's okay. And that's understandable. And I think your interactions with your family should be very minimal. Dan Savage always says, you know, my gift to you is my presence in your life. And especially in relation to like, you know, he had when he came out to his
Catholic parents, he talks a lot about how it took his mom a really long time to accept it because she was really like, oh no, you're going to hell. Like she did, his mom ended up doing like a 180, which is possible, but not as common. And he was like beautifully patient with her. And then at times like didn't talk to her because she just would harp on it. So I'm curious the effect that it has on you because I,
If you can look at it from this perspective of, dude, this sucks that you're like this in terms of like I feel bad, which you say you do. Yeah, if it doesn't chip away at your soul to be around them and kind of like sneak in these educational moments by way of book like Corinne suggested, I think that would be really – that would certainly be the kind thing to do. But I don't think you owe them that if it takes too much of a toll on you.
Yeah, this is like a pretty extreme because it's like it's like not even like they hate gay people. It's just like that they they they think it's like like wrong, but in a way that has also personally affected them and stunted them. It's extremely it's extremely extreme. Like so and then also like, you know, I know you want your family to know your girlfriend, but don't don't try.
Don't drag your girlfriend around. I know. Like this is, don't torture her like that. Enjoy your girlfriend. Yeah. But also don't, don't drag another person through this. It's bad enough. You got to put up with this. I hate when, I don't, like this is my own, you know, bias and shit. But like, I hate when I'm like, just because you have a bad family does not mean that I got to be dragged through this shit too. That's not true. That's not true.
Mad true. It's really unfair to her. Do your girlfriend a favor. Unless she, like, really wants to and she, like, she has something in her, like, I really want to support you, you know? Yeah, that's true. But go be gay and have fun. Don't force her to be there. Yeah. You deserve to enjoy your life. And if your parents being in your life really puts a fire blanket over that enjoyment, you can...
Barely talk to them or not talk to them. That's very possible. So you've got a lot of options. I would say follow your heart, baby. Follow your heart, you little cycle breaker. Yes, Eric? When I hear about people like this who are this cut off from information, it reminds me of when Julio was here and he was talking about the Taliban and how –
Oh, yeah. How they just didn't have information. They'd be like, well, what if you thought about it like this? And they're like, oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. It was very impressionable. Yeah, and that's a really – when you take away information and you take away knowledge from people, you leave them in a very vulnerable place. Like that's like the language of the oppressor is like let's take the education away from this person. Let's take actual truth and facts and reality away from this person so that they can be my fucking little consumerist little puppet. Yeah.
And that's really, that's a bummer, man. That's a bummer. I'm sorry for your situation, but you seem really happy with your girlfriend and that's awesome. So protect her from your shit parents. Do we have time for one more or shall we? I mean, I think it's 55. Okay. Yeah. It's two 30. We have our guests come in too. Okay.
Well, this is a lovely episode, guys. Thank you so much. And I'll see you in Naples, Florida tomorrow. If you're listening to this today, it comes out and we'll see you on May 4th at New York comedy club for the Corinne Fisher for mayor benefit. Absolutely. Thank you so much for joining us. Thanks for being a luminary subscriber. We appreciate you. Eric, do you have anything that you need to say? Oh,
Oh, well, come and see me in Vancouver May 1st through 4th. Okay. Do that, guys. Thanks so much for being here. This has been Guys We Fucked, the anti-slut shaming bonus podcast. We'll talk to you when we talk to you. Bye. Guys We Fucked is presented by Luminary. Created and hosted by Corinne Fisher and Christina Hutchinson. Editing and music coordination by Eric Freddie. Theme song by Rob Patterson and Jake Kozen.
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