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Rory: 我认为减少塑料使用的一个好方法是转向替代材料,比如纸和纸板,它们相对无害且可生物降解。当然,在某些情况下,塑料制品是不可避免的,例如笔记本电脑的硬塑料外壳。人们使用塑料制品,很多时候不是因为喜欢,而是因为缺乏可行的替代方案,而且塑料通常比较便宜和轻便。我认为,如果能够开发出效果好且易于大规模生产的替代品,未来我们完全可以摆脱塑料。政府在减少塑料污染方面可以发挥作用,例如鼓励对替代产品的投资,并启动激励人们使用替代品的项目。当然,最终人们是否会减少塑料垃圾,取决于他们自己的选择和需求。虽然现在人们越来越意识到塑料对环境的危害,但我对未来塑料垃圾是否会减少并不确定,因为改变总是很困难的。 Maria: 我认为我们可以通过改用替代材料来减少塑料垃圾,例如纸和纸板,它们是可生物降解的。人们应该避免使用一次性塑料制品,比如塑料袋、保鲜膜、吸管和塑料咖啡杯,也应该停止购买瓶装水,多做饭,减少外卖。购买二手物品、进行回收利用,并购买环保包装的产品也是很好的选择。当然,有时我们无法避免塑料包装的使用,而且塑料无处不在,甚至已经进入了我们的身体。可行的替代品是指能够发挥作用的其他选择。政府可以鼓励无纸化趋势,投资于废物管理,并采取措施来减少塑料污染。

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This chapter explores the difficulties in reducing plastic waste, covering individual actions, governmental policies, and the lack of viable alternatives to plastic. It also touches upon the complexities of public behavior change and the environmental impact of microplastics.
  • Difficulties in switching to alternative materials
  • Ineffectiveness of government regulations without viable replacements
  • Challenges in changing individual behaviors
  • Environmental impact of microplastics

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Offers end June 30th, 2025. Hello, hello, hello, dear listener, and welcome into IELTS Speaking Part 3. Plastic use and pollution. Mmm, yes, exciting topics. If you have zero knowledge...

of plastic use and pollution in your region and the world, it's a good idea to just go online and read a couple of articles in your mother tongue or in English about, you know, like, what's the situation in 2025 with this plastics pollution and plastic waste.

Rory here is the authority. Rory, you are an educated native speaker with a band 9 for IELTS speaking. Yes, but I didn't talk about plastic. No, you didn't, but you do know stuff about plastic pollution, right? Well, based on what I said in part 2, yes, I have first-hand experience with this. If you have first-hand experience, it just means that you have

the knowledge of it based on your or yes based on your own life yeah we see plastic waste um every day right dear listener yeah let's talk about plastic

How can we reduce our use of plastic? Well, switching to alternative materials would be a good start. Paper and cardboard are relatively harmless and biodegradable, so using them as packaging as much as possible would be good. And indeed, they do this now for lots of products which used to be in plastic packaging. Do you think we should use plastic products?

I mean, in some circumstances, it's unavoidable, isn't it? For example, the hardened plastic casing on laptop computers couldn't be easily substituted by something else, or at least not without turning the laptop into a fire hazard.

Why do people like to use plastic products? Well, I'm not so sure they do like using them. It's just a lack of viable alternatives. Like I said before, sometimes using various plastic products is just unavoidable. They might like the products because they're cheap and lightweight. That would make sense. But that's less about the material and more about what it does for people or what it allows them to do. What kinds of plastic waste are often seen in your country?

Oh wow, it would be easier to talk about what isn't seen, frankly speaking. It's a western country, so there's a huge amount of plastic products and packaging that gets used on a regular basis. Much of it is like the wrappers and food packets for food that get thrown away after the food inside of it has been eaten.

Do you think we can do without plastic altogether in the future? Well, if alternatives that work well and can be easily mass-produced become available, then I don't see why not. We would definitely need a replacement, though. It's not like we can just abandon it overnight. Too many industries rely on the use of plastics for that to be viable.

What can the government do to reduce plastic pollution? I'm not sure there is much the government can do, really. It's tempting to think they can enact laws and legislate the problem away, but that wouldn't be very effective if there's nothing to replace them with. With that in mind, I suppose they could encourage investment in the development of alternative products and launch programs to incentivize their use. That might be more effective.

Do you think that people could reduce their plastic waste? I think they could. Whether they will or not is entirely up to them, because different people have different needs. So if it's someone like me, then I could do without a great deal of plastic. But maybe someone with a more hectic lifestyle that doesn't have the time to make these sorts of decisions couldn't do that.

But what do you think in the future? Will plastic waste be reduced? Well, I want to say yes, because people are more conscious of the fact that plastic can do damage to the environment. So, for example, things like microplastics leaching into water supplies can be a problem. So now that we're aware of this and the consequences it has as they start to saturate our cells, we should be seeing less, but people don't always make the right decisions and sometimes change can be hard. So the jury's out.

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See you soon. A very specific topic, dear listener, plastic. Yeah, let's get into it. So we reduce our use of plastic or we reduce plastic waste. Waste is just waste. We don't say wastes. Well, you can, but you wouldn't be talking about... Yeah, wastes, I think, refers to areas of land, if I'm right. I think also... Yes, here we go. Um...

large area of barren and uninhabited lands. Yeah. Like the icy wastes of the Antarctic, according to Google. Yeah. But here we talk about rubbish. So in this context, we use just waste. Plastic waste. People throw away their waste. Yeah.

Okay, so just like waste. Careful. And this is why it's important to be aware of this. Not just because it looks good for the examiner, because you didn't make a mistake, but because the potential for the mistake to cause a miscommunication is there. We reduce our plastic waste by switching to alternative materials. So we use alternative materials, not plastic. For example, paper and cardboard.

are harmless, so they don't do any harm. So instead of plastic people can use paper or cardboard because they are bio... bio what? Biodegradable. That just means when you leave them out in the open they just decompose and go into the soil or wherever they're going. I should say that's relatively harmless and biodegradable. For example,

Some of the chemicals which are used to treat cardboard in order for it to be used in this way could also be quite harmful to your health and could also leach into the soil. So it's not like this is a solution that solves all of our problems. It's a relatively less harmful solution, I think at least.

Biodegradable, something that is able to decay naturally, so it disappears naturally and usually is not so harmful as other chemicals. So biodegradable packaging, for example. And people could start using biodegradable packaging.

Also, dear listener, so people can avoid using single-use plastics. And here we can say plastics, meaning different kinds of plastics. People could avoid using grocery bags, like plastic bags or plastic wrap, straws, coffee cups, plastic coffee cups, so just like stop using them. People could stop buying bottled water, okay?

So just use glass, don't buy plastic bottles. People could cook more, alright? No, no they could not. Yes, they could. Just cook more. No take-out containers, Rory. You see, food take-out containers, they are made from plastic normally. So carry-out bags are plastic. So cook more.

Purchase items secondhand. So, just secondhand items. Recycle. Yeah, and just buy eco-friendly packaging. So, pretty much what, Rory? Like non-plastic packaging. There is. Yeah, there you go. So, biodegradable packaging or non-plastic packaging. Sometimes it's unavoidable. So, we can't avoid plastic packaging.

Plastic is everywhere actually. It's even inside you now, thanks to microplastics. Amazing! Viable alternatives. So alternatives is like some other options.

like paper and cardboard, but viable – if something is viable, it's able to work. C2 level word, yay, banal. Really? Yeah, viable. Why is it always these words that are just so random? Yeah, but it's quite difficult to use viable in the accurate context. You see, viable… No, it's not. Give me a question. Pick a random question. Alright, there we go. Alright, okay, there we go. A random question. Alright, Rory.

Is there life on Mars? Well, I don't actually think it's viable because the atmosphere is so toxic and thin that it's just impossible for life to exist there. Maybe in the past, but certainly not now.

See? It's not viable. Nice. Nice. Use the word viable. It won't work, right? Usually we say like it's not a viable plan, the plan won't work. You can say that we don't have alternatives to plastic or we don't have viable alternatives to plastic.

And people use plastic because it's cheap and lightweight. So it's light. That was a strange question, though. Why do people like plastic? Yeah, like. Like? Like, oh yeah, plastic. I like the smell of plastic. Like, I like plastic inside my body. They like what plastic can do for them. I don't think they like the plastic itself. Unless you have some bizarre fascination with materials.

And Rory told us that there's a huge amount of... Rory, amount of plastic products? What? Amount of plastic waste, but not products. Grammatically, maybe. It's wrong! If I say the word amount, it's because I say it's like they're an amorphous mass of things as opposed to just individual parts.

That's my explanation and I'm going with it. This is kind of a slip, a native speaker's slip, which is okay for Band 9. And normally these days people say there's a huge amount of people, there's a huge amount of books, of products. But it's grammatically, still, it's grammatically incorrect. But it's okay because it's only once and for Band 9 it's okay.

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So, you can say that there's a huge amount of plastic packaging. Alright? And to be on the safe side, say there's a huge number of plastic products. And you can name some of them, for example, wrappers.

Wrappers is something that we wrap a product in, so packaging, or packets for food, so containers for food, bottles. And also, dear listener, to be even more specific, for Band 9, you can say that we have micro and nano plastics. Right?

Roy, do you know what they are? Micro and nanoplastics. I'm going to guess that nanoplastics exist at the atomic or subatomic level and bind to things there and that causes problems. Maybe. If we talk about nanoscale technology, then that's usually at extremely small levels, below microscopic.

And, dear listener, you can learn just one word. Polyethylene. Dear listener, can you pronounce this? No?

Well, then you can say just "Pet plastics". And here when we talk about different kinds of plastics, you can say "plastics", because "pet"

Poly... oh, I can't pronounce it. Rory, say it again. Polyethylene. At least, I think that's what you're saying. Polyethylene is a type of plastic. But there's another one. Poly... polyurethane, I think, is used to create plastic bags. Yeah, so polyethylene is used in bottles and food packaging. Polyethylene is used in food packaging.

Or, dear listener, PET plastics, you can say. Yay. What's that? Oh, is that polyethylene? Yeah, it's the same. And another one is... Oh, my God. Polypropylene. So, a type of plastic used for many purposes, such as food packaging and artificial fabrics. Of course. So, dear listener, yeah, for Ben 9, like, you can say, like, polypropylene or PP. Ha!

Or just... No, you won't be able to say that because you'll have to explain what it is for the examiner. Yeah, yeah, because the examiner might not know what this PP and PET mean.

Or you just can stick to microplastics and nanoplastics. And microplastics are tiny plastic particles, little plastic thingies. Yeah, that I used to somewhere. Maria is just absolutely giving up. No, it's just so difficult. I won't remember all this like polypropylene. Polypropylene. Yeah, I might remember polypropylene. Yeah, so micro and nanoplastics. There you go, dear listener. Yay.

We can live without plastic or we can't do without plastic. Like, we can't live our life without plastic like we can't do without plastic. So alternatives could work.

And there is a replacement. Plastic products could be substituted with something or they could be replaced with something. And a noun is "there are replacements". And I don't think that we can abandon plastic altogether overnight.

Abandon, like stop using plastic. Oh, can you imagine? Just McDonald's. Think about McDonald's. How much plastic do they use? McDonald's, hello, if you just want to sponsor our podcast, go ahead. Yeah, but only if we're saying nice things about them. As far as I'm aware...

McDonald's packaging is actually mostly paper-based. So they've done at least one thing, right? Really? So they don't use any plastic? Well, I think mostly. In this country, for example, the straws are paper-based. And then on top of that, the packaging that things come in is cardboard as well. Oh, oh, oh, oh.

McDonald's uses a variety of packaging materials, including paper and plastic. Oh, I can imagine so. But, like, what I'm saying is that it's not a huge amount. There are things that are definitely not plastic. I think it would be too expensive. Yeah. McDonalds.com, we are working to accelerate solutions that help reduce waste. Go.

while also transitioning to sustainable packaging. Yeah, so they kind of... They want to use more ecologically friendly packaging. Interesting.

Yum-yum-yum. Okay, dear listener, where were we? Plastic. And then Rory used viable again. He says: Too many industries rely on the use of plastics for that to be viable. And Rory, here you mean like industries should be viable. Like industries use plastics to be viable, to work, right?

What do you mean viable in this sentence? Well, for that to be viable would be for some sort of ban on plastics to work. That refers to the legislation that would do that, or the removal of plastic overnight. It's important to point out that overnight does not mean in one night. It means in a very short space of time, which makes it an idiomatic expression. Probably C2. C5. C5.

Doesn't go that high. The government can do something to reduce plastic pollution and people, so individuals can do something.

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regulations to reduce plastic. They could encourage investment in the development of alternative products. So, the government could encourage, like, make people invest, investment in the development of non-plastic products or alternative products. The government can launch programs

to reduce plastic, like launch programs, start programs. And a very nice word is incentivize.

To incentivize something just means to make people want to do it or to find ways of encouraging people to do it. So, for example, the government incentivizes various charities by giving them tax cuts. So lots of charities are started and they receive their tax breaks because they know they won't have to pay tax. They're more likely to work.

Also, you can say that the government can encourage the paperization trend. Paperization is like everything should kind of be packaged with paper. So paper is a substitute for plastic packaging.

A substitute for, like a replacement for. So the paperization trend. Everything is in paper, not in plastic. So one of the trends in 2025. Yay. Yes, and also the government could invest into waste management. So just how we manage our waste.

And, Rory, here I have some information about plastic waste statistics 2025. Okay? Are you ready, dear listener? You should know. So it's like a welcome to Maria's School of Important Facts.

from the Internet. I have a feeling since we're about to talk about plastic waste, this is probably not going to be good news, is it? No, no, no, no. So 91% of plastic waste globally remains unrecycled. Oh, God. Oh, my God.

And most of it ends up in landfills or the ocean. So most of our plastic, dear listener, ends up in landfills. Landfills? What are landfills? Giant holes in the ground that you throw things in and cover them over to hide the fact that they were ever there. Or the ocean, dear listener. The ocean is polluted with plastic. By 2025, global plastic waste is projected to reach

460 million tons annually. Oh wow. So, dear listener, every year, like in 2025, the population of the world will produce 460 million tons of plastic. I can't imagine this. Can you imagine, Rory? I don't understand. These are just figures.

And plastic accounts for 10% of all waste generated worldwide. Wow, only 10% of waste? What's the rest of it? What's the rest of it, yeah. Probably, you think about things like food waste, if we are including sewage, then obviously people are generating that on a daily basis. Waste generated worldwide.

T-Listner, have you ever thought of how much waste you generate? And like, how does plastic waste harm the environment? So first of all, ocean pollution. So plastic is in the ocean. We have this The Great Pacific Garbage Patch. It's just plastic. A patch of plastic is in the ocean. It's called The Great Pacific Garbage Patch.

So threats to wildlife: animals eat plastic, then they die, birds, animals. soil contamination: soil is polluted with chemicals. air pollution: burning plastic waste releases harmful gases. And how can we reduce our plastic usage is avoid using single-use plastics like bottles.

Improve recycling rates, support sustainable alternatives, so go for eco-friendly alternatives, non-plastic materials. Interesting, hm? It's terrifying! I know, I know. But I wonder, like, what kinds of waste are there in the world? Do you have a list? Oh, yeah, there you go.

Food and green waste, paper waste, plastic waste, glass waste. And food is pretty much like 44%. It's nuts. And on that positive note, hopefully this episode has not been a waste of your time. Well, now you know, okay? So Maria's School of Education is over. And we'll see you in our next episode, okay? Bye! Maria's School of Education. Rory, how do you like this? School of Education, okay?

That's crazy. Bye.

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How can we reduce our use of plastic? Well, switching to alternative materials would be a good start. Paper and cardboard are relatively harmless and biodegradable, so using them as packaging as much as possible would be good. And indeed, they do this now for lots of products which used to be in plastic packaging. Do you think we should use plastic products?

I mean, in some circumstances, it's unavoidable, isn't it? For example, the hardened plastic casing on laptop computers couldn't be easily substituted by something else, or at least not without turning the laptop into a fire hazard.

Why do people like to use plastic products? Well, I'm not so sure they do like using them. It's just a lack of viable alternatives. Like I said before, sometimes using various plastic products is just unavoidable. They might like the products because they're cheap and lightweight. That would make sense. But that's less about the material and more about what it does for people or what it allows them to do. What kinds of plastic waste are often seen in your country?

Oh wow, it would be easier to talk about what isn't seen, frankly speaking. It's a western country, so there's a huge amount of plastic products and packaging that gets used on a regular basis. Much of it is like the wrappers and food packets for food that get thrown away after the food inside of it has been eaten.

Do you think we can do without plastic altogether in the future? Well, if alternatives that work well and can be easily mass-produced become available, then I don't see why not. We would definitely need a replacement, though. It's not like we can just abandon it overnight. Too many industries rely on the use of plastics for that to be viable. What can the government do to reduce plastic pollution?

I'm not sure there is much the government can do, really. It's tempting to think they can enact laws and legislate the problem away, but that wouldn't be very effective if there's nothing to replace them with. With that in mind, I suppose they could encourage investment in the development of alternative products and launch programs to incentivize their use. That might be more effective.

Do you think that people could reduce their plastic waste? I think they could. Whether they will or not is entirely up to them, because different people have different needs. So if it's someone like me, then I could do without a great deal of plastic. But maybe someone with a more hectic lifestyle that doesn't have the time to make these sorts of decisions couldn't do that.

But what do you think in the future? Will plastic waste be reduced? Well, I want to say yes, because people are more conscious of the fact that plastic can do damage to the environment. So, for example, things like microplastics leaching into water supplies can be a problem.

So now that we're aware of this and the consequences it has as they start to saturate ourselves, we should be seeing less, but people don't always make the right decisions and sometimes change can be hard. So the jury's out. Thank you, Roy, for your answers. No worries.