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Andrew Bosworth on AI, wearables, and mixed reality

2025/3/26
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Andrew Bosworth: 我相信可穿戴设备将成为一种强大的平等化技术,赋予每个人超人的视觉、听觉、记忆力和认知能力。这将弥补人类能力的先天差异,带来社会平等。我的农场成长经历教会我工具必须易于使用且高效,才能被人们广泛接受。我们构建的工具必须易于使用,即使最终价值巨大,也要确保人们能够轻松获得。在农场长大的经历让我明白,工具必须高效实用,因为人们没有时间学习新的使用方法。元宇宙的概念是将数字世界和物理世界融合在一起,而农业领域已经率先在这一方面取得了进展。互联网和软件已经发展到极限,可穿戴设备等物理载体将成为软件进一步发展的新平台。Meta对人工智能的理念包含三个层面:构建强大的模型、认识到信息论的局限性以及追求人工智能的具身化。我将我们正在构建的人工智能比作“文字计算器”,它将显著提升人类的能力。我们正在接近人工智能的信息论极限,需要突破到具有常识和因果关系理解的世界模型。我认为我们需要构建能够理解因果关系的世界模型,并将人工智能从终端解放出来。Orion项目旨在通过结合眼动追踪和腕带神经接口技术,实现一种更自然、更直观的交互方式。Orion眼镜在关机状态下必须能够满足普通眼镜的功能。可穿戴设备将会像新闻推送一样,起初可能不被人们接受,但最终会成为人们生活中不可或缺的一部分。可穿戴设备的愿景是赋予每个人超人的能力,从而实现社会平等。可穿戴设备将弥补人类能力的先天差异,带来社会平等。未来三年内,人们将能够与人工智能进行日常对话,并获得认知和记忆方面的帮助。未来,可穿戴设备将作为一个整体系统协同工作,而不是单个设备独立运行。Meta将继续专注于开源人工智能,并致力于确保人工智能创新能够造福人类。开源人工智能既有益处也有风险,需要谨慎地平衡两者。Meta改变事实核查政策,转向社区评论,这是一种更有效率且更符合时代精神的方法。大型科技公司和初创公司将在人工智能领域共同发展,两者之间存在互补关系。虽然大型科技公司在人工智能领域具有优势,但初创公司仍然有潜力带来颠覆性创新。如果一切顺利,未来15年内,数字世界和物理世界将深度融合,人们将能够在虚拟和现实之间无缝切换。 Reid Hoffman: Aria Finger:

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The evolution of AI is changing the way we interact with the physical world, not just in how we use this technology, but also where and how we access it.

In this episode, Reid and Aria sit down with Meta’s Chief Technology Officer, Andrew “Boz” Bosworth, who is pioneering wearables for the company. Boz’s journey in the tech sector has taken him from working on Microsoft Visio to founding Reality Labs, Meta’s AR and VR division. Now, he’s focused on the next frontier in mixed realities with his latest project, Orion, a pair of AR glasses. Boz offers an Orion demo and shares his vision for wearables as an equalizing technology that can unlock superpowers for every person. Plus, they check-in on the state of AI as it relates to open source software, safety, hyperscalers, and startups.  

For more info on the podcast and transcripts of all the episodes, visit https://www.possible.fm/podcast/

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1:03 - Episode introduction

3:36 - How Boz’s farm upbringing influenced his career and perspective on the digital world 

7:02 - How will wearables influence how we navigate the physical and digital worlds? 

9:46 - Meta's AI philosophy

11:27 - Pi explains Norbert Wiener's construct of information theory

14:28 - What would it take to build AI world models?

15:09 - What are the most significant use cases for Orion?

19:01 - Can Orion accommodate monocular vision?

20:00 - Boz's response to Orion skeptics

22:29 - Boz gives predictions on our AI future

25:09 - What would it look like to have a compatible system of wearables? 

27:30 - Unexpected discoveries from Orion testing

29:33 - What is Meta's focus in the AI space for the years to come?

30:48 - How do we ensure that AI innovation is used for good?

35:28 - Boz responds to Meta's changes in fact checking policy

37:11 - How will hyperscalers and start-ups flourish in the AI game?

40:06 - Boz shares his review on “The Wild Robot”

42:24 - Rapid-fire questions

Select mentions: 

The Martian) by Andy Weir

Project Hail Mary) by Andy Weir

I Am a Strange Loop) by Douglas Hofstadter

J. C. R. Licklider, psychologist and computer scientist

Douglas Engelbart, engineer and computer science pioneer

Norbert Wiener, computer scientist and mathematician

Yann LeCun, computer scientist and Chief AI Scientist at Meta 

Michael Abrash, Chief Scientist, Reality Labs, Meta

Garry Kasparov, Russian chess grandmaster

4-H, a youth development program from the USDA)

The Biometric Information Privacy Act)) (BIPA)

Qualified Business Income Deduction) (QBI)

Possible is an award-winning podcast that sketches out the brightest version of the future—and what it will take to get there. Most of all, it asks: what if, in the future, everything breaks humanity's way? Tune in for grounded and speculative takes on how technology—and, in particular, AI—is inspiring change and transforming the future. Hosted by Reid Hoffman and Aria Finger, each episode features an interview with an ambitious builder or deep thinker on a topic, from art to geopolitics and from healthcare to education. These conversations also showcase another kind of guest: AI. Whether it's Inflection’s Pi, OpenAI’s ChatGPT or other AI tools, each episode will use AI to enhance and advance our discussion about what humanity could possibly get right if we leverage technology—and our collective effort—effectively.