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Unscripted: What Happened After the Mic Went Off with Douwe Kiela

2025/4/18
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John Turow: 我与许多企业CTO和创始人交流过,我发现即使技术本身是通用的,但市场营销策略应该垂直细分。与其专注于解释技术细节,不如通过讲述与目标客户相关的具体案例,用他们能够理解的语言和视角来呈现技术价值。这种垂直化的叙事方式,能够更有效地引起客户共鸣,并最终促成交易。 我观察到,即使精明的客户最终会意识到技术的通用性,但一开始,他们更关注的是技术如何解决他们自身面临的具体问题。因此,在市场营销中,要善于挖掘和提炼能够引起客户共鸣的案例,并将其转化为引人入胜的故事。 在当前市场机遇遍地的环境下,这种垂直化的叙事策略显得尤为重要,它能够成为企业的一大优势。 Douwe Kiela: 我认为构建平台的关键不在于直接的市场推广,而在于展示平台的可能性。与其试图成为某个特定领域的专家,不如通过展示平台如何帮助其他公司(例如Hebbia或Harvey)构建他们的产品或服务,来证明平台的价值。 在DynamoDB的早期推广中,我们成功地运用了这种策略。我们没有试图将DynamoDB定位为一个通用的数据库解决方案,而是重点展示其在广告技术、游戏和金融领域的具体应用案例。这种策略帮助我们成功地打开了市场,并跨越了技术推广的鸿沟。 相反,在AWS re:Invent上推广边缘AI时,我犯了一个错误。我选择了一个具体的案例(力拓矿业的自动驾驶矿车),虽然这个案例很吸引人,但它只覆盖了一个非常小的市场。尽管如此,这个案例却意外地吸引了其他大型矿业公司的关注,这说明了精准的垂直化故事讲述的重要性,即使目标市场很小,但如果故事足够精准,也能产生意想不到的效果。 在Meta工作期间,我和Amon一起参与了多模态内容审核项目。我们通过构建能够同时处理文本和图像的模型,解决了当时困扰行业的多模态内容审核难题。这证明了技术创新和精准的市场定位同样重要。

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This chapter explores the importance of vertical storytelling in technology marketing. It highlights how tailoring narratives to specific industries resonates more effectively than focusing on purely technical aspects. The discussion uses examples from the speaker's experience to illustrate successful and unsuccessful approaches.
  • Vertical storytelling in technology marketing is more effective than focusing on technology alone.
  • Tailoring narratives to specific industries improves customer engagement.
  • Successful storytelling requires understanding customer needs and speaking their language.

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This bonus episode of Founded & Funded is a follow-up to Madrona Partner Jon Turow's conversation with Douwe Kiela, CEO of Contextual AI and co-inventor of RAG.

In this quick chat, they dive into:

  1. Why storytelling—not just GTM—needs to be vertical2) How to build a platform by showing what’s possible3) The tension between “doing one thing well” vs. building the whole stack 4) Multimodal content moderation at Meta & what it taught Douwe

This 10-minute post-show chat is a must-listen for founders thinking deeply about where to plant your flag — and when to break the rules.