129. Confessions of a CEO: Loneliness, Risk, and Building a Business with No Experience, with Harry Cramer
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Welcome back to Truth, Lies & Work, the award-winning psychology podcast brought to you by the HubSpot Podcast Network.

Today, we’re diving deep into the story of Harry Cramer, founder and Managing Director of Smart Clinic, a specialist occupational health provider. Harry didn’t begin his career in healthcare—he actually started out in marketing and made the bold leap into the occupational health industry in 2015. Now, nearly a decade later, Smart Clinic has grown to 43 employees, helping businesses across the UK reduce staff absences and support employee well-being.

Harry’s journey is more than just about business growth; he also runs Smart Clinic alongside his wife, Chloe. Today, we’ll discuss what it’s like to build a business with your partner, how to succeed in an unfamiliar industry, and why Harry believes that growth isn’t just about scaling—it’s about improving the quality of what you do.

Key Talking Points:

- From Marketing to Occupational Health: How Harry transitioned from a marketing background into building Smart Clinic, a thriving occupational health business.

- Building a Business with Your Partner: The unique challenges and rewards of running a company alongside your spouse, and how to balance personal and professional life.

- The Importance of Speed and Technology in Occupational Health: Harry shares how Smart Clinic has disrupted the industry by providing fast, tech-driven services in a sector often known for slow responses.

- Occupational Health vs. Occupational Psychology: Understanding the difference between these two fields and how they work together to improve employee well-being.

- Empathy and Culture in High-Growth Companies: How Smart Clinic fosters a mission-driven, empathetic workplace culture as it scales.

Connect with Harry Cramer and Smart Clinic:

- Smart Clinic Website: smartclinic.com)

- **LinkedIn: **https://www.linkedin.com/in/harry-cramer-%F0%9F%A7%AC-ba5b3833/

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If you’ve been affected by any of the themes in this episode or are struggling with your mental health, the following resources may be helpful:

- UK: Mind) offers mental health support and information. If you are in distress or despair, including thoughts of suicide, call Samaritans for free on 116 123 or email [email protected].

- US: Contact the National Suicide Prevention Lifeline at 1-800-273-TALK (1-800-273-8255) or text HOME to 741741 to connect with a trained crisis counselor.

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