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An obituary writer makes a grave error in John Kenney's 'I See You've Called in Dead'

2025/4/14
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Andrew Limbaugh: 撰写讣告是一项极具挑战性的工作,因为它要求在有限的篇幅内概括一个人的完整人生,这几乎是不可能的。 John Kenney的《我看到你已经死了》的创作灵感源于他大学时期撰写自己讣告的作业。 John Kenney: 小说主人公Bud是一个迷失自我却不自知的人,他撰写的荒谬讣告反映了他对人生意义的迷茫与困惑。他因为发布了自己的讣告而被公司解雇,但由于公司系统无法解雇‘死人’,他得以继续留任。Bud开始参加陌生人的葬礼,这彻底改变了他的生活。在参加前妻母亲的葬礼时,他遇到一位年轻女子,这让他开始重新思考人生的意义。 Bud与他的朋友Tim一起参加葬礼,开启了一段身心旅程。Tim是Bud的重要朋友,他为Bud提供了重要的支持和陪伴。 这部小说主要探讨的是男性友谊,以及男性朋友之间表达情感方式与女性之间的差异。 我从小就阅读波士顿环球报的讣告,并对其中蕴含的人生故事着迷。我弟弟的去世启发了这本书的创作,他在面对死亡时展现出的黑色幽默让我深受触动。死亡是一个严肃的话题,但它也带来了一种黑色幽默,我希望将这种幽默融入到我的作品中。 Scott Simon: (无核心论点,主要为访谈引导和评论)

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Hey, it's Empire's Book of the Day. I'm Andrew Limbaugh. As a reporter, I've written my fair share of obituaries, and it's a tough gig. You have to sum up the entirety of a person's life in a single article, which is impossible, but you do your best anyway.

The author on the pod today, John Kenny, majored in journalism and once had to write his own obituary. The exercise inspired his new novel, I See You've Called In Dead, about an obit writer who, yes, writes his own obituary, but then he takes it a step further and actually publishes it. And hilarity ensues from there. Kenny talked to NPR's Scott Simon about reading obituaries in the Boston Globe growing up and how thinking about death actually

Actually pushes him towards humor? That's after the break. Support for NPR and the following message come from Betterment, the automated investing and savings app. CEO Sarah Levy shares how Betterment utilizes tech tools powered by human advice. Betterment is here to help customers build wealth their way.

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One night he has a disaster of a blind date, gets bad news from his ex-wife, goes home, has too much to drink, and then writes too much. Bud Stanley, the first man to perform open-heart surgery on himself, died today in a hot air balloon accident. He was 44. His wife, Miss France, has confirmed the death. At the wire service where he works the next day, the security guard tells him...

I'm so sorry, Mr. Budd, but it appears you are maybe expired? Budd Stanley had written and posted his own obituary. I see you've called in Dead as the new novel from John Kenny, the longtime New Yorker contributor. He joins us now from our studios in New York. Thanks so much for being with us. Thank you for having me, Scott. Quite an inventive obit he writes for himself, isn't it?

It is. It's more wishful thinking than actual fact. It's one of those late night things that he shouldn't have done. Is it, in addition to being maybe a product of too much to drink, a kind of electronic Freudian slip? Is that what he's really feeling about himself? Yeah, I think that's fair to say. Bud is a guy who is lost but doesn't quite know it. As you said, he's two years into a divorce. His wife has left him.

He's lost the spirit of his job, and he's not quite sure what to do. So he's sitting there making up these absolutely ridiculous things about his own life, kind of wondering what the point of it all is. He's fired, but then he can't be fired. What happens? Well, they desperately want to fire him, but then after a few days, they realize that he is dead to the company's enormous system, and they cannot legally fire a dead person.

Since you can't quite stop living or working, Bud starts going to funerals of people who makes you wonder maybe you should have been going to them all the time before.

Yeah, the catalyst for that first wake he goes to is his ex-wife's mother passes away. And he was kind of close with her. And he goes, and that's a nightmare because he's seeing his ex-wife for the first time in two years. She's happily remarried to a far better looking and more interesting man with an English accent. As she tells him, too. Indeed. After the wake, he meets a young woman who...

Is there for no other reason than she wanted to come to the wake and funeral of a stranger and and but is stunned by this and says, well, why? And she said, well, it's it's the secret. And he says the secret to what? And she said, well, you have to find that out.

And she suggests a funeral to him, and he goes, and he keeps going. That's really the essence. It's this journey, physical and emotional journey, that Bud is making with his good friend Tim to these wakes and funerals. And tell us about Tim. He's an especially vital character and a lot going on in his life, doesn't he? Yeah. So after Bud is divorced, he finds a small apartment in Brooklyn, and it's owned by this sort of

It's a Gatsby-esque character, except he is a true Renaissance man. He's this remarkable guy. He was in a bad accident and is in a wheelchair. And yet his physical wound doesn't keep him from living and from...

Every few months having a Gertrude Stein-esque salon in Brooklyn for sort of ne'er-do-wells, part-time poets and cellists. And Bud finds a community with Tim and relies on Tim in a way that he desperately needs. You know, in a way, I think the bulk of this story is about

Male friendship. You know, my wife has many close friends and the intimacy with which they talk, whether it's on the phone or in person, is so radically different than myself with my very small group of guy friends. You know, I'll say, you know, how you doing? And they'll say, fine. What they really mean is I'm doing terrible. I wake up at 3 a.m. crying. I lost my job and I'm worried about money. What sparked your interest in obituaries?

I was journalism major in college, and as part of the many different assignments we had, one of them was to write our own obituary. And I did not remotely take it seriously, which I know will come as a surprise to you, Scott. And so it stuck with me, but I grew up in Boston, and my parents always read the Boston Globe obituaries. They called it the Irish sports page. I find them fascinating because there are

These whole lives in two, three, four hundred words, and when they're done well, and they often are, it's a hard thing to do to capture someone's life, the little nuances, not just where they went to school or their children's names. I find them really fascinating. I came across some words recently. Art Buchwald? Great man. Ostensibly a humorist like you? Absolutely. One said, I don't know what happens to us when we die. The question is, why are we here in the first place?

Yeah, and that's an individual question, and I know my answer, which is to try to be a decent friend and a great father and a semi-unannoying husband and to try to enjoy myself. You know, I did want to share...

It's an intense subject, death, but the flip side of it is this valve release of humor. And I very much wanted that to be part of the book. The catalyst for the book came in 2019. I'm one of five brothers, Boston Irish family, and one of my brothers passed away in 2019. Tom, and I dedicate the book to him, a really remarkable guy.

Like our father and grandfathers, he was a firefighter and just a big, handsome guy who loved life and loved his job. And he was on the Massachusetts FEMA team down at 9-11, and we think he contracted his illness, pancreatic cancer, during his time at 9-11. But during those five months, we would visit, my brothers and I. I'd come up from the Boston area sometimes.

And his wife called and said, you know, you really should get up. And I arrived first and Tom was in a lounge chair with a blanket on him, far thinner than his normal self, but still very much in there in that dark Irish humor. And we chatted and I heard a car pull into the driveway and I saw it was my other brothers. And I turned to Tom and I said, the others are here. And with this Buster Keaton-like stone face, but a little grin on his face, he dropped his head to one side and

dropped his arm off the chair and trying to hide a smile said, tell them they're too late. And I thought, absolutely, because I did too. And I thought, I want that in a book. I want to write a funny-ish book about death because it gave me chills to, in the face of the great unknown, he knew what was about to happen. He was able to find that dark, wonderful humor that makes life worth living.

John Kenny, his new novel, I See You Called In Dead. Thanks so much for being with us. Thank you, Scott.

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