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Emma Pattee's 'Tilt' imagines the aftermath of a life-changing earthquake

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Andrew Limbaugh: 我妻子看完《Tilt》后强烈推荐我阅读这本书,因为它讲述了一个孕妇在地震后经历的故事,探讨了大型灾难如何改变生活,即使你毫发无损,也会促使你做出改变。 Emma Pattee: 小说灵感来源于我怀孕时在宜家购物时经历的一次地震,虽然只是虚惊一场,但这激发了我创作小说的想法。小说主人公Annie代表着千禧一代的迷茫和对生活现状的失望,这种感觉并非千禧一代独有,她的经历反映了现实生活中许多人面临的困境,例如经济衰退、房价上涨等,这种普遍性超越了年龄代沟。小说结构借鉴了史诗的叙事模式,主人公的经历如同一次史诗般的旅程,最终改变了她的人生轨迹。小说旨在展现生活中的“冲击点”时刻,这些时刻能让人看清现实,并做出改变。我创作这本书是为了缓解自己对太平洋西北地区即将发生大地震的焦虑,在创作中力求科学准确,对地震及其影响进行了深入研究,甚至参考了宜家建筑图纸。我选择写小说而不是非虚构作品,是因为小说可以想象未来,探讨人们对未来巨大灾难的准备和应对。在创作过程中逐渐理解了人们对巨大灾难的无力感和恐惧感,并对其产生同情。 Mary Louise Kelly: 在访谈中,我与作者探讨了小说的创作灵感、主人公的形象、小说的结构以及作者对科学准确性的追求等方面。 Andrew Limbaugh: 这本书探讨了大型灾难如何改变生活,即使你毫发无损,也会促使你做出改变。

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Hey, it's Empire's Book of the Day. I'm Andrew Limbaugh. I got an early copy of today's book in the mail a few months ago. My wife happened to get her hands on it first, and in between taking care of our toddler, she crushed the book and pretty much grabbed me by the collar and said, you have to read this. The book is called Tilt by Emma Patti. It's her debut novel about an extremely pregnant woman in the aftermath of an earthquake.

And in this interview with NPR's Mary Louise Kelly, Patti talks about being inspired by how giant disasters can change your life, even if you and your family come out unscathed, right? How things occurring outside of your control can push you to make changes to the things you can. That's coming up.

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The opening chapters of Emma Patti's debut novel introduce us to Annie. Now, Annie is massively pregnant, 37 weeks. She's shopping at Ikea in Portland, Oregon, trying to wrestle a baby crib off the rack when everything starts to shake. It's an earthquake, the big one. The lights go out, phone lines go down, her car keys are lost, and so...

she starts to walk. The novel is titled Tilt, and Emma Patti is here now. Hey. Hi, it's great to be here. I gather the initial inspiration, at least, was you, that when you were very pregnant, you went shopping for a crib at the Portland Ikea and the ground started to shake? Yeah, I, you know, I was so scared of the earthquake at that point that as soon as the building started to shake, I thought,

Oh, it's the big one. It was not the big one. It was a large truck coming by. But as soon as I realized that it wasn't, the idea for the book was almost fully formed in my mind. It was all like, well, what if and what would you do? Absolutely. And the idea of the walk home, that I would have no choice but to walk, even massively pregnant. Yeah.

Just to reiterate your protagonist, Annie, she is crib shopping at 37 weeks, and even she concedes that this is an errand she should have gotten done a lot earlier. Introduce us a little bit more fully to Annie, your main character, because she is deeply ambivalent about a lot of things, including the fact that she's pregnant.

Yeah, you know, Annie, I think is very stuck. And I think she's also having what I consider to be sort of a millennial experience of I thought that my 30s would look different than this. I thought my life was going to turn out different than it did. And I feel a sense of disappointment and missed potential that I cannot shake. And that is sort of getting in the way of me being able to even appreciate what I do have or what is still possible.

Do you think that's really unique to millennials? I'm a Gen Xer, and I felt that, and I'm not sure it's unique to my 30s either. You know, the more people who read this book, the more it becomes clear that it is not unique to millennials. You know, I think what I wanted to show was kind of the ways in which Annie's sort of artistic ambition ran into some really real roadblocks, like

the recession, like what has happened in Portland with changing prices and the tech boom. You know, Annie's life has been really impacted by the pandemic, and her life is once again being impacted by a force completely outside of her control. But I definitely appreciate the pushback because it has become clear to me that I think everyone has a little bit of this feeling and that there's a universality to Annie's story.

I had in my head as I read this, I kept thinking of the classics, of ancient Greek epics. On the one hand, you couldn't be farther removed. This is set in modern day. You're on the west coast of the United States. You're at an Ikea, for God's sake. On the other hand, you have this epic odyssey and this fight for survival. And without giving anything away, Annie pulls off feats of superhuman strength as the plot unfolds.

Yes, I was very interested sort of structurally in the idea of an epic quest and a journey. At one point early on writing this was sort of looking at the way that Don Quixote is structured, somebody who is on a journey and they don't exactly know what they're going to encounter, but they end up somewhere geographically different than where they started, but also changed in a way that can never be undone. That's interesting. Explain that a little bit more fully, changing in a way that can never be undone. Yeah.

Well, I think I started to become really interested in this idea of shock points, like these moments in your life where everything gets rattled and you all of a sudden can see things clearly. And I became really interested in stories people would tell about after 9-11. You know, a lot of people on 9-11 were not maybe in life or death situations, but felt

completely rattled and still had to walk home. And it took hours. And I have met many people who told me, oh, on that walk, I realized I was going to get divorced.

On that walk, I decided I was done working that job. It gave this moment where you can make a different decision. And that's what I wanted to give to Annie. She is so disappointed in her life. She's disappointed by her ambitions. She feels completely isolated and has kind of lost the awe, the incredible kind of beauty of being alive. And I wanted to give her the chance to change her life.

So at the center of the book, again, is an earthquake. And I read that you wanted to be absolutely as scientifically accurate about how you wrote it as possible, about the severity of the shaking and what the exact impact on the failure of the power grid might be. I'm curious why. It's fiction. You could just make it all up. Yeah.

Well, so yeah, here in the Pacific Northwest, we're waiting on this massive earthquake. And scientists predict that there's a 37% chance it will happen in the next 50 years. And that when it does, it'll be one of the worst natural disasters in the recorded history of North America. So at night, when I'm lying in bed, you know, that plays out. That plays out in my mind. And I wrote this book because I...

was starting to crack living with the fear of this. And I think I wanted to know, well, what would really happen? I wanted to resolve my own anxiety and in doing so have now made many, many other people very anxious. But...

Sorry for that. No, and truly, actually, I hear from a lot of people that the book has relieved their earthquake anxiety and has really grounded their fears in a reality. So it was very important to me that the book be scientifically accurate. And I did research sort of every element, not only of the earthquake, but also of how it would impact the city of Portland, of the bridges. Even I pulled the building plans for the IKEA building. So I tried to make every element of this book as much

like a nonfiction book as I could, having said that it is a fiction book, and this is an earthquake that has not yet happened. And why on that? Because you're a climate journalist. Why not write a nonfiction book about the big one? Why write a novel? Well, there's been an incredible nonfiction book already written about the earthquake and one that I relied on heavily. It's called Rip 9.0 by Sandy Doughton. But a nonfiction book cannot imagine the future.

You really do need fiction for that. And because I am a climate journalist, I was so interested in the idea of what it feels like to live under the shadow of something coming that is so big you can't even imagine it. And everyone keeps telling you to get prepared. But how do you prepare for that? And we have these busy lives. We have kids to pick up. We have groceries. We have, you know, political disasters unfolding everywhere.

what does it really mean to prepare? That's a great point. Like what was Annie supposed to do other than walk around with, I don't know, a backpack on every day with bottled water and backup cell phone? Never leave her house. Exactly. Like when I started writing this book, I think I had so much anger about the people in my life and the people I was meeting who didn't care about climate change and who weren't mobilizing around climate change. And writing this book and getting to really understand Annie

I really found compassion for the parts of our brain that just cannot grapple with things that are this large and this terrifying. Emma Patsy, her utterly gripping new novel is Tilt. Thank you. Thank you so much. I really appreciate it. Thank you.

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