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Hi, everyone. Welcome to another episode of Good Hang with me, Amy Poehler. Very excited about our guests today, Paige DeSorbo and Hannah Berner, two great women who make up the podcast Giggly Squad. You may have listened to them on there. You may have seen them all over your social media. You might have met them in the Bravo reality show Summer House episode.

which is great, and one of them is still on it, and the other one is long gone. But we are going to talk about really fun things today. We're going to talk about stand-up comedy. We're going to talk about female friendship. We're going to talk about pimple patches. We're going to decide what is the best medication for anxiety.

So keep listening. Check it out. And we always want to start every episode with people that know our guests or is a fan of our guests or has an idea of what they think I should ask our guests. And who better to talk about two young, wonderful women than the mothers of these wonderful women? So we've got Lenore and Kimberly.

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check in with people who know the guest or who are fans of the guest or who want to tell me questions they think I should ask the guest. And we thought there was no better people to talk about Paige and Hannah than their moms. I would say that's probably true. They played at Radio City. What is it like to see your kids playing Radio City? I still don't believe it. No, it was unreal. It really, I just...

We pinched ourselves. I'm like, this can't be happening. I remember when they booked it, I just thought, I couldn't believe that was happening. And then they sold out the first show and added a second show. And then I thought, oh no, they're never going to sell tickets to a second show. And then they sold out the second show and I thought-

what is happening? And we get nervous for them, but we don't tell them like when Nora is exactly right. When I'm like, you're adding a second show for radio city. What are you nuts? Like, no way. Are you going to sell that out? What was it like being on tour? Kimberly, you went on tour with the girls. Where did you go? How long were you there? And what was it like? I love it. I mean, it's just, you know, I stay in, I don't go out on stage or anything. Our husbands have gone out on stage, but, um,

I just stay in the background and I'm just really there if she needs something, you know, and it's nice to be with the girls and I love watching. I always say the best part of their show is when they're first together whether it's in the green room or they're getting their hair and makeup done because

When Hannah and Paige are together, it's like no one else exists. And they're just, it's a show. I like always say to my sister, oh, you have to come when they're getting their hair and makeup done because that's the best part. Right, Lenore? I mean, it's the warm up act. I think their bond is just incredible and so needed in today's environment, really. I agree. I feel like their genuine friendship is really nice to be around. I think that's

what you like so much about them is how genuine they are as people, but then their friendship and bond with each other is why you keep coming back. Yeah. You know, and, and Lenore, what was it like to have your daughter be on reality TV? Oh, yeah.

Honestly, I don't know how Paige has hung in there so long. Let's just say it wasn't a good fit. Right. It was not a good fit for Hannah. Yeah, stressful. She jokes about how she's an athlete. She's very coachable. And so you put a producer in her ear and tells her, oh, do this. It'll be great. Do that. And she's like, tell me how high to jump. I'll do it. And then she doesn't realize she's

making a disaster for herself in the edit. To Hannah's credit, I always say this. If Paige went through what Hannah did on the reality part of it, Paige would have moved back home and you would have never seen her again. Yeah.

And really, I say that to Paige all the time. Like, I am so impressed with Hannah's perseverance. And I mean, she blew everyone out of the water. You know, just having a Netflix special, like, come on, you know, I'm

She's a fighter and she's very competitive. So that you couldn't take away from her. I'm wondering if there's a question that either one of you think I should ask them. Anything you want to know doesn't have to be big or deep. It can be, is there anything you think I should ask them today?

Are you pregnant? I'm kidding. Okay, I'll start the podcast by asking them both that. I think, though, a great question is, like, are they enjoying themselves? Right? You know...

What do they enjoy about it? Well, I am so thankful that you guys gave time today. I think they're going to be thrilled that we got to talk today. I mean, now you're making me think I should always talk to everybody's mom. Because you really do get a sense, really get a sense really fast. I'm sure you feel this way too. When you meet somebody's parents, they're

And the only you get when you meet somebody's parents, you're like, oh, now I get it. And it's either a now I get it. I understand why they're so great. Or sometimes it's a now I get it why they're so fucked up. Well, right. Maybe you should have the dads on.

No, it really means a lot that you both gave time and I'm excited to talk to them. I think they're so great. And the stuff that they've built together, I think, is an indication of the strength of female friendship. I think it's

you know, it's a natural resource, female friendship and the way it drives the world and the way they talk about it and model it is really, really cool and special. So thank you both. It's really nice to meet you both. Really. It was an honor. I never was this on my bingo card pages. I'm like, what?

Huge fan, Amy. We love you, Amy. Aw, thanks, you guys. And you both sound exactly like your daughters, and you look like they're older sisters. Look, Gen X all the way, babe. You're definitely our favorite. They're the mom giggly squad. Thank you so much. Thanks, Amy. Bye. Bye.

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Good to have you guys here. We're thumbing through your book, How to Giggle, which we're going to talk about. We have to say thumbing. That's a good, we should bring that back. We're thumbing through it. Yeah, we're thumbing. You know, I have so many things I want to talk to you about today. I am huge fans of both of you and I love your podcast and I love your friendship and I love you individually and together as a unit. Oh my God, thanks.

Thank you. That's actually the only credit we need. Yeah. Once I heard she listens to the pod, I was like, we can retire. Yeah, we're done. What is there to do? It's only downhill from here. That's for sure. I'm here to tell you it is. I'm going to talk about that, about how life goes downhill. No, but I talk to your moms. And, you know, so we have this thing on Good Hang where we talk kind of about people behind their back in a good way.

I, I. Oh, that's very different for us. She's like, your moms had shit to say. But they are so great. They, of course, love you so much. What if they were like, the girls are monsters? This is an intervention. They changed a lot recently. And they had questions that I wanted to start our interview with because I thought they were really important pertinent questions for the both of you.

Hannah, Lenore wanted to know, are you pregnant? And Paige. That's a wild question. And Paige, Kim wanted to know, are you enjoying yourself? Oh, that's such a her question. Two extremely difficult questions. We can get to them later, but they're hilarious questions. No. No.

easy done not pregnant and not having fun not having a good time no but i i will say yes i'm having a great time like in the past year hannah and i i feel like our careers have kind of taken a turn but i would not be having this much fun if i wasn't doing it with hannah like i don't know if it would be the same experience at all i mean i know it's a

Okay, so for people listening, like my mom, who might not know Giggly Squad, can you guys quickly tell us how you came together? You're doing your podcast, Giggly Squad, but how did you first meet, and how are you a team? Do you want to go, or do you want me to go? Okay, I'll begin. Also, by the way, we are in a non-sexual marriage, so if we have that kind of interaction... Like half of America. We're in a partnership. Yes, the most of America. So we... And let me know if I'm overstepping, Paige. Oh, no, no, no.

We're like, we'll talk about this later. You embarrassed me in front of Amy. You embarrassed me in front of Amy. So anyway, we're just trying to not explain what Giggly Squad is. People like they don't know what their own podcast is. No, Giggly Squad. It stemmed from Paige and I both got casted on a reality TV show, which was crazy. It was never what Paige wanted to be an entertainment reporter. I wanted to be a stand up comedian. And we found ourselves on reality TV scared, scared.

alone, worried. But we had this trauma bond from it. And people liked our friendship, which is weird. It's weird for anyone to comment on you when they don't really know you. Totally. But for some reason, in the reality TV zeitgeist, they were like, Ann and Paige are entertaining and relatable, I guess. Yeah, and I think we...

Obviously, we didn't know anything about reality TV. So we would watch it back and we would be like, oh, we feel like we were funnier while we were filming. Or we feel like people aren't really getting our friendship. They definitely cut the best punchlines, but that's fine. Because we'd be in the bathroom and we'd be like to the camera guy, like, hey, why don't you come with us? We're going to really run a bit in the bathroom. And they're like, we don't.

care. We didn't realize that there's a basic storyline and they have to cut down to 42 minutes and Paige and I are going on these callbacks. There's no

And we're like, oh, that's definitely going to be in the show. That was hilarious. And like, of course, it's not in there. And then all my interviews, they'd be like, we need you to be angrier. And I was like, I don't even remember. I was drunk, so I don't know why I'd be mad. But fast forward, COVID hits. Yeah. And we're FaceTiming. Everyone's depressed. Everyone's scared. Again, more trauma. And we're both home in our parents' houses. With Lenore and Kimberly. Yeah, and we're like 28 years old. And we're like, so what's going to happen?

happen to us? Are we going to get married? Are we going to start a business? What's going to happen? All the COVID thoughts. Are we going to live? We would FaceTime for four hours a day and we'd be like,

we're funny like this is funny people would think we're funny and so then we were like okay let's just go on instagram live it was like the time that was a thing i feel like that was a thing well i'm i'm a weird like i have weird blind spots about all that stuff because i just started doing social media like a couple years ago because i was on i know it's no it sounds so beautiful i'm so old amy we are so envious of you what is instagram when i saw you on instagram i was like oh no

I know. Say goodbye to your innocence. It's so true. Like, I really, and, but I know about Instagram Live. I think I've done a few, but I never, but. It was a weird time. Yeah. It was very weird. I remember the first time we went live, Justin Bieber also went live. Yeah, and John Mayer. John Mayer. So then we created a beef. We were like, they don't support women in the arts. And they knew we were going live at this time. And then they went live. It was such a weird time. It was so weird. And so we went live every single night. For three months.

months. 10 p.m. 10 p.m. for an hour. That's how Giggly Squad started. It was just the two of you just talking. We were diligent. 10 p.m. We were going on and sometimes we'd mix a cocktail like and so it started where we'd have like 500 people watching. Then the next night was like 2000. Then the next it was like 5000. We were like, wait,

Like, what's going on? And we had no, like, segment. Yeah, no structure. Right. And then... Nothing was happening every day. What were we possibly talking about? But the comments were so funny. It was, like, this community of women and gays that, like, wanted... And just, like, curious straight men who...

Which is the most dangerous kind of straight man. Yeah, we don't want straight men who are bored. No, no, no. That's when bad things happen. No, no, no. Why are you bored? Go answer an email. So they would comment all these funny things, and we were like, what is this community of girls who are so funny and silly? And it was this light. And then we...

had to go film Summer House. And we had to stop doing the lives because we were locked in a house. And then the world kind of opened up and we were like, okay, I guess we'll make it a podcast. But we had no... Going into it, we were like, we should start a podcast together. So it just kind of naturally happened. We actually had to debate. I was like, because I'd been podcasting for a bit. And I was like, Paige, you should podcast. And she's like, I don't have a face for radio. You can do that. That sounds like something you would do. We're going to have to film it. She goes, I'm not made for...

I was like, have you seen my bone structure? That's such an insult to me. I remember having to explain to her what podcasting is. Well, it's funny. When I started this podcast, I'm like, oh, we have to shoot it now? Like, now? Yeah. I just had somebody come up the other day and say, oh, I just watched your podcast. Which is like, what's crazy how that's taken over. It's different. Your clips are everywhere right now. And you've got to have those clips. You've got to have clips. That's why we're not allowed to have too long conversations. We've got to stop a clip. You're right. You're right. Let's keep moving. For 45 seconds. You're right. I'm not.

I'm just going to throw out a bunch of words. These are not my glasses, by the way. I forgot my glasses. She just stole it from a random person outside. But when you went back on Summer House after all that talk, you must have felt psyched that you knew each other so well. Like you had gone from...

You know, you had had a season, right? And then you shut down because of COVID. Two seasons. Two seasons. Two seasons. Then you shut down. And then during that time, your friendship grew. So you came back in knowing like, oh, I'm with my friend. We kind of always were like that. Like, oh, I have a friend. Because we were both new at the same time. So we already had that bond like that first day. And Hannah and I truly are so different in so many ways. But our humor is the exact same.

same. So from the day we met, it was like, this is my best friend. Look at me getting dark. I keep going, I'm starting to get dark. But I think you might understand this.

In any kind of trauma you're going through, the only thing I've ever been able to control is laughter. So like in reality TV, there's multiple scenes where I'm sobbing about something and then I'll try to crack a joke because it's the only thing that I can control. And that's something that I think Giggly Squad is about, is about taking your life less seriously in spite all of... You can't control your relationships, your job, any of it. But we can choose to laugh instead of cry.

And I think it's the elevator. To me, that takes you from the basement. It's the fastest. If you can find a way to go from crying to laughing, it's hard. But it's a huge... It feels kind of like the fastest way to remember that life is a dream and that nothing matters. If you can get there. And it's with people that... You can do it with people that you trust. Yeah.

And it's kind of what we've been talking about in this podcast is it's so dark right now. Everything is really tough. And I just want...

to do for my own mental health and for others to do what I do in my personal life, which is to talk to my friends and laugh. And have a good hang. And have a good hang. Everyone needs that one person in their life where it's like you can call them and they make you feel better about anything. It's like a spouse or like in my case, it's Hannah. Like truly if anything happens to me like online that I'm like deep in and like everyone hated my outfits.

Like, you know, something like stupid. She's like, this is the worst thing that's ever happened to me. No, I'm like, I'll never financially recover from this. It was a sparkly boa. I'm like, they don't get it. I'm like, they don't get it. No pants is actually really in.

Like, I can call Hannah and say anything, and she really does, like, bring me back down to earth. And, like, I will then, like, laugh at something, and then I'll be on to the next thing. So, like, I really feel like everyone needs that one person where you can just call them. We also were going through very unique things. Yeah. Like, something would happen with reality TV that you can't talk to, like, your mom necessarily. I mean, you can, and my mom's like, why'd you do it? Yeah.

But Paige would be like, yeah, I did that last week and this is how I got through it. So we've just had unique experiences. But Giggly Squad has become us talking about just the mundane, I think, and girls have connected with it. I bet you get asked a question like Tina and I used to get asked this all the time, which is what do you two fight about? Yeah. No.

Nothing. We've literally never... And we work together, too. Like, the podcast is obviously a business. So, like, will we have, like, business phone calls? Yeah, like, kind of. It's not like we have, like, a set time where we're like, let's talk business. We've had, like, other people definitely try to get in the way of our friendship, which...

leads me to the Akon song. Nobody wanna see us together, but I don't matter, no. The fact that you had to break out into song is so crazy. I can't believe I just did that in front of you. That was so embarrassing. Also, that was definitely a copyright issue. No. Also, I don't know this song. Ha ha ha!

I'm so sorry. I'll send it to you after. It's going to change your life. I do know Akon. I know who they are. But there's this kind of level of, there have been moments where people have tried to kind of turn us against each other, which has made us stronger in a way. Yeah. The only thing we've ever fought about is she has to stand on a certain side, and it's so diva that it's...

I can't. Because we literally did the Vanity Fair Oscar party and my dress had like a side. And I was like, Hannah, I have to stand on this side, like my dress. And she looked at me in the eye and she goes, I'll literally die if I have to stand on it. That was the first time I ever stood up for myself. And I said, sorry. Okay, she was a limited to model. Yeah, she's got all good sides. She has all the sides. And all I wanted was to feel confident on my day. And one of my sides happens to be deformed. Yeah.

You're seeing it right now. I disagree. Yeah. Thank you, Amy. I disagree. There's a little dysmorphia going on there. There is a little dysmorphia. But I know what you mean, though. A woman knows what her side is. And I wasn't going to solve the dysmorphia in that 10 minutes. I was like, you know what? It's so funny you brought that up because it means you still haven't moved forward from it. Because that was weeks ago. Yeah. Well, that's the thing about comedy is you have to decide how much you're going to care. Mm-hmm.

Yeah, all the time. When it comes to performing, because I was a tennis player, tennis was really like, you're a winner or you're a fucking loser. Like, you can't walk off the court. You can be like, I played well. It's an intense competition. But tennis, like, I really dealt with, like, like,

very result oriented. So when I started doing comedy, I was like, oh, this is art. Like I can, I could be authentic and raw. And if people don't like it, I'm like, it's subjective. It's subjective. That's you're projecting onto me. And, and I'm so lucky I'm getting paid to be goofy where tennis, I really felt like every day was judgment day. Yeah. So comedy, I've kind of retrained my brain to be like, you don't have to be mean to yourself like you were with tennis. So I, cause I feel like I've lived a couple of lives before comedy with comedy. I've been,

I've been really nice to myself. That's great. I hope other people can do the same if they're being mean to themselves with how they're doing in their careers. I think that what you're saying is really important because so much of being funny is being relaxed. And it's less about content. Well, I...

not to shit on comedians, but I, I don't like when comedians take it so seriously. I'm like, if the audience laughs, you did a great job. I can make myself like this. Let's be, let's be serious. Like, it's like when you're in a comic club and all of them, she's like, okay, get out of here.

I'm mortified. But when you go backstage and all the men, it's usually men, sometimes women, but it's like with their headphones on, like pacing, going over their set, and it's like, I saw your set. It's okay. It's not that great. It's okay. They're like pre-gaming to M&S. It's pretty tough to talk to stand-ups in general. Oh, yeah, because we have the improv world. Because they are just always performing at you, and they're also either having...

done a set or about to do a set and they're just trying to figure out what went wrong and so they're just staring at like right past you doing their bit and it's tough every now and then I practice my bits on Paige without her knowing which is super annoying that's a very stand up you know she knows I start I get a microphone because my thing is if Paige laughs I'm like you make me light you in five minutes what are you talking about but I have become aware that like

It's really annoying to constantly just be wanting to take laughter from people. And there has to be this vulnerability. It's annoying. Yeah. It feels like, you know, you have to be aware that sometimes people feel like your audience rather than, you know. But what is your relationship to being funny? Because you're very funny. Okay. Okay.

My whole personality has been built out of spite because when I was younger, my brother is so funny. His timing is great. He's so smart. He just like knows when something's going to hit. So my dad would always be laughing at my brother and he's like five years older than me. And I started to get so frustrated. I was just like, dad, I'm also funny. And my dad was like, well, you haven't made me laugh. Yeah.

You're beautiful. Yeah, like, you're beautiful, you can't read, stay in your lane. And I, so I would get so annoyed. He's older and smarter. Older and smarter, but my brother always loved comedy, so, like, I would always watch stand-ups. I always knew who, like, famous comedians were. And so then just, like, over time, I think just hanging out with my brother and my dad, like, I got

certain timing. Yeah. But I was never like outwardly funny. Like I don't think in high school anyone would have described me as like oh she was like so funny in class. It really wasn't until I met Hannah that I feel like I

Was more open about being funny. Yeah, like my friends would say yeah, like she's funny sometimes we're now I'm like if you don't think I'm funny I hate you Like then you don't get me then you don't get like right now how people can be mirrors to you like yeah You surround yourself with people that I mean your dad now is like page. You're hilarious How do we not know but a lot of friends I'd be with like they don't want you to be funny or that's not how they see But I could never do stand-up you could I think I think she can I think you could

I just have to say, I don't think women should say anymore, I could never do anything. Because I think, you can do, I could do it, I don't want to. She doesn't want to stand. I don't want to stand up there. She doesn't want to stand for more than 20 minutes ever. With no chair? Get a grip. That's her. In this economy? You could Dave Chappelle it and sit with a cigarette the whole time. I would love that.

That's exactly right. A jewel. A mango jewel. Just get an IV while you do it and sit there and just get other things done. You get your nails done for three hours a week and you can't stand once a week? Actually, that would be amazing if you got your nails done. That would be amazing. That is stand-up. I'm like, I have to fit it in. It takes a while. I really relate because Tina and I are on tour and I want to talk about your tour. And I pushed her. I was like, let's do stand-up. And Tina was like,

we don't really... And I was like, but we do. And also we can. And also let's just keep trying it and try new material and use this section to try new stuff. Well, with us, with our tour, we do a lot of improv. But then whenever a joke really hits, we keep it. So it's basically like you doing improv, but then being able to save everything that works and doing it again. Yeah. It's just...

such a different, it's a different form of comedy, but the hard part's done. You're funny. I'm always so suspicious of when people start gatekeeping stuff as being really hard. I mean, with the exception of like science and like real hard stuff. Like real hard stuff, like math. Things that you have to go to school for more than five years. Are we respecting science on this pod? Yeah.

We believe in science. We believe in science, and I said it for the first time today. Like, I would have never even thought to go on a tour or even been, or said, like, yeah, I want to do this if it wasn't for Hannah being like, Paige, you can go out on a stage and, like, be funny. What do you like and not like about being on tour? I always say, like, the beginning, like, before we go out on stage when we're in the green room is my favorite part because that's when we're just, like, waiting to, like, go do something. It's so funny you say that. Your mom's brought that up. Really? That, like...

Like Kim being on tour, she was saying the best part, I always tell people the best part is before you are on stage and it's just the two of you getting hair and makeup, just like getting ready. It's like we're waiting to like...

Go to a party or something. Except every now and then Paige started this thing. She likes to show up in like her sweats. I'm an athlete. She used to look like she was practicing. She's like, let's not get dressed up until right before. But I'm not organized. So I show up in my sweats and then I take out my backpack and I'm like, I left my left heel in the hotel. This is really, really, really. And I forget clothes all the time where Paige has a perfect outfit. This describes Tori.

We were in Denver. We had just started our tour. Talking about Denver? I know. We're about to go out on stage in like 15 minutes. And I'm like, no, I think I'm having a panic attack. My hands are numb. I'm crying. I'm throwing up. I'm like, yeah, no, I'm having a panic attack. Hannah's trying to play spa music in the background. I found on YouTube spa music and I just put it at her face. She's like, hey, is this helping? I'm like, not at all.

I'm literally in the midst of crying. Tears are running down my face. I realize that Hannah has forgotten her shirt that she's wearing out on stage. So she's going to wear like this silk pajama shirt that like the venue had given us like this merch.

I can't even speak. And the only words I can get out is, you can't wear that shirt on stage. And she looks over at me and she's like, you're having a panic attack and you're going to tell me what I'm going to wear. Luckily, I had like a T-shirt in my bag that was like extra whatever. And I was like, put this on. She put that on. Her outfit was fine. And then I got out of my panic attack. Great example.

example of like you're she got you so after a lot of beta blockers and damage she facetimes her mom because she's like henna this isn't working on facetiming kim so i'm just listening supporting and all i hear is page stop page stop it you're fine yeah you're fine she hangs up we start dying laughing we were like your mom just told you to stop panic attacks aren't

And that's two generations of women. She's like, back in my day, we sucked it up. Well, that is true. We never even had the word anxiety. And you did SNL. I had a high school boyfriend who used to get stomach aches. And we were like, huh, I wonder why. And he would just be up all night. Now you realize it was because of you. The second you broke up, he's like, my stomach feels great. He's like, it totally went away. I was like, okay. I wonder what it was.

to be up all night worried about the future. Yeah. Get stomach aches. And everyone was just like, huh. Shoot. I guess. Drink some Pepto. I hope you fix that. There was no discussion. You bring up relaxation a lot in this episode. I was wondering, because you've dealt with some of the most high pressure live performances in entertainment period. Do you have any advice for us when you feel like your career is hanging by a thread?

Do you ever take a beta blocker? To give something funny. I've never taken a beta blocker and a lot of people have told me about this. I would be worried it would slow me down. Yeah. Okay, so here's the thing why I like it. It's not for anxiety. It's for blood pressure. Sure.

So like it doesn't do anything to your brain. She's a drug pusher. No, I'm a drug pusher. She pushes people. Because I am very against Xanax. I don't like the way Xanax makes me feel. You have to really, really be careful. Yeah, I didn't like that. Where when I took a beta blocker before I went out on stage, it just like took away my hand sweating. So that's why I like it. It's good with physical reactions. You know when you're so overprepared for a performance, but you know your body's going to turn on you right beforehand. You're going to get the shakes and your lips quivering. Yeah.

Beta Blocker for me, I've taken, it just calms your heart rate, so I feel more normal, but not your brain. It depends on the person. I took it, did I take it? I didn't take it for Fallon. I took it for my Netflix special. Great special, by the way. Thank you. I was having a lot of panic. Nerves, yeah. Because I felt like it was a make or break career moment for me, and I blew it out of proportion in my head. But I've never experienced that level of performance before, and stand-up's never recorded. Yeah.

So I just went to a dark place in my head. I'm like, what if I blink? Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.

I feel like my anxiety tends to come after I do something. I get a little kind of zony before, and then after I get very fluttery and nervous, and it's a little bit like, was I good? Did I do good? I kind of check out. I disassociate, which our Jen is really good at. Healthy. It's really healthy. You know, like just float above your body and get out of your body. And then when I'm like sucked back into my body, that's when I get shaky after something. Interesting.

more than before something it's almost like i i get the the after your adrenaline comes down yeah did i say that right did i totally everyone was it good do yeah did i even do it like did it even happen we're dark really just don't be there i don't even remember the 90s you're trying to be too present like you're trying to be too in the moment

Be out of the moment. Be out of the room. I do think because our generation is so aware of mental health, we're always trying to be like, okay, this is anxiety and this is PTSD and this is OCD. And a lot of it is true, but then there's a moment where it's like, and now how do we cope to not let it beat us and not let it suppress who we want to be? Well, I think, and I'm sure from your athlete days, there is a thing about your brain, and everyone has different capacities for this, so I realize that, but there is something about your brain where you...

If you start to tell your brain something, you can trick your brain for a short amount of time to get the thing done. And yes, if you start labeling the different, like anxiety, OCD, this is this, this is this, it's happening again, you're starting to tell your brain, like, we have it. We're doing it. We're doing it again. We're here. We're doing it again. 100%. There is a little trick, sometimes it works for me, where being excited and being anxious are the same physical symptoms, physical feelings. Yeah.

So if you say, look at how excited I am rather than how anxious I am, it doesn't help when you're like at the dentist or something. And you're like, I'm so excited to be at the dentist. They say a little bit of anxiety, especially in sports, is good. And it helps you actually perform at a more focused level. So a little anxiety is important.

Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.

Yes. She'd also push me out on stage in a panic attack. I would literally launch her, like, bunt kick her onto the stage. She'd be like, your adrenaline will kick in. We hope so. Here you go.

ahead honey you got it and also doesn't it help you because taking care of somebody is a great distraction oh I was I wasn't the problem for like the first time ever so but I was like forgetting my shirt because I was so obsessed with like is Paige okay well you might have a little ADHD because you said you forget your shoes yeah I wish you didn't say that because I could talk about this forever but it's all she says to me she's like well I suffer from ADHD and I'm like I've never seen a doctor I wouldn't

suffer. I would say I thrive. You live with it. I'm like, you've never seen a doctor. You've only been given TikToks about this. And so I really need you to stop bringing it up. You're right. Everyone on TikTok tells me that I have it or that they have it or we all have it. Yeah, it is. I mean, but that is how I diagnose most things. Yeah. I'm like, no, you just want to sleep an extra hour. You don't have ADHD. You literally just press snooze.

No, I told my other friend. I was like, I think I have ADHD. And she was like, yeah, everyone knows that about you. And I was like, no one told me? Told me this whole time? You know, Kim from Paper Kite, she had a really, one of our producers, she had a really great thing where she said, you can tell you have ADHD if someone says, we have to leave in five minutes or we're going to miss the flight. And someone says, all right, let me just take a shower. That's her. That's the only time I start cleaning. I'm like, this is crazy.

We have to leave in five minutes. It's like, great, let me take a shower. It's like, what? That's a good indication that maybe time is more of a concept. That is so true. You always have to go to the bathroom when we have to leave. Yes. I also will leave the shower just shaving one leg and find out two days later. But these are all things that make me beautiful. Absolutely. Absolutely special and beautiful.

And then is there anything that you have, Paige, like when I make a mistake? Yeah. I feel like for me, I think maybe this is because of reality TV. I'm very quick to want to like defend myself of like, oh, no, I didn't make a mistake. You're just not seeing it from my perspective. And like what I meant to do was this or what I meant to say was this. And I feel like in my 30s, I've not mastered at all, but I've worked harder to be like,

And not everyone is going to like me. And I don't need everyone to like me. I don't like everyone. I thought you were going to say, I don't like me. Yeah, well, that too. I'm like, imagine hating on me. And I'm at home hating on me. So I feel like I've had to overcome that of not everyone is going to like you. And not everyone is going to think you're funny. And not everyone is going to love your outfit. And that's OK. Because you think you're funny. And you like what you're wearing. And so that's been a struggle for me.

I think reality TV like brought that up because really like the human brain, I'm not supposed to see 200 people commenting how much they hate me. Like I'm not seen. That has no. Yeah. Like I'm not supposed as a human. I'm not supposed to be able to read that. No. And there's like this new thing on TikTok where it's like we were never meant to see ourselves like mirrors were like invented. Like we were never supposed to see what we look like. Yeah.

And I feel like that with being so public and like social media, we really weren't supposed to see how people feel about us. And so I think that's...

Have you heard that saying what other people think of you is none of your business? I was about to say our new thing is saying it's none of my business. It's a fantastic way. But when you're on a show, like you're still on Summer House, that's hard because you have to talk about people in real time. You have to hear. And then for a year after, like you don't get to move on until a year after because everyone else is seeing it. And it's hard not to take it personally because people are talking about who you are as a person.

Yeah, and I'm like, no, no, no, let me explain that one moment. And it's like, no, no, I don't need to explain that one moment. No one cares. Yeah, but being misunderstood is painful. It's painful. But I really feel like people who want to misunderstand you will. Yeah. And people who want to understand you will. And that's like how you get a little peace with it. Do you ever talk about, do you ever clarify things about the show on your podcast? Never. Never.

I've never said what actually happened in my last season. We've never spoken about Summer House. We've never...

We don't. Honestly, because when we started, we were like one of the first podcasts to come out of Bravo. I think maybe there was like one or two others. And they were really adamant of like, this is not a Bravo podcast. Do not speak about Bravo. And we were like, totally fine with us. Like we weren't going to anyway. We wanted it to be more pop culture. And so now people are kind of surprised if they find us from Bravo because they're like, they never talk about Bravo. And it's like, well, we weren't allowed to in the beginning. And now like, yeah, it doesn't really go with...

who we are and like what we talk about. So it's actually better that way. Yeah. I mean, it definitely does. You're practicing what you're saying, which is just kind of letting go of things that you can't have control over. Because then it would be too in the we. It's too much. Also, it's funny you brought up mistakes because I feel like, I don't know, I'm going to speak for you, but like I really have just failed upwards. Exactly.

Does that make sense? You've been fired so many times. Every time. And I love sports quotes. And I'm sorry to say this, but we're going to ask you to leave. We need to ask you to leave right now. I manifested it accidentally. But not to do like a Jordan quote, but like they say like of all the shots. Why? Timmy does a Jordan. Timmy wants to be like Jordan. Timmy Chalamet. You're like Jordan. Timmy Chalamet. Okay, so he... I need to stop. So I have ADHD. So he...

He missed a ton of the shots to win the game. But people don't remember those. They remember the ones he made. Well, you know what? You can't worry about doing a Jordan quote because you didn't. You didn't do a Jordan quote. As I was saying, Amy Poole looked me in the eye and went, You missed 100% of the shots you don't take was Wayne Gretzky and not Jordan. But I bet Jordan did say something about shots. But I'm sure they're friends and they like each other, so it's all fine. Yeah!

see it quote again. With that said. And Obama actually said. Grab your hockey sticks, kids. Marilyn Monroe, you miss 100 shots. Marilyn Monroe used to say. Audrey Hepburn. Audrey Hepburn said, you miss 100% of the shots you don't take. Wait, can we also tell them, we misquoted Amy Poehler in our book. We also didn't ask permission, did a

With Amy Poehler. Said it wrong. Wait, that's actually so funny because my brother literally saw the back and was like, you didn't ask my permission. And I was like, what are you going to sue me? Oh, because your brother has a quote on the back of the book. Yeah, but I like wrote it like for him. We got some fun quotes in the back of our book. Gary, my sister isn't that funny. That's his quote. I wrote that. I wrote it. Did you not think it? Yes.

Did you not think it? Okay, you talk about pop culture on your podcast. Yes. Because of that, I want to just throw things out to you. Yes. Speed round. Yes. Tell me your thoughts and opinions. Okay. There's no wrong answers here. Okay. Like the last thing I did. She got that wrong, but hopefully do better this time. Incredible. Okay. Veneers. Veneers.

I don't think they ever look good. Never? I think maybe there's like two people in Hollywood where I'm like, wait, they have really good veneers. But like a normal person who can't afford it. I do have a veneer. Do you? Oh, they look great. Well, I...

No, you wouldn't know. But, because you obviously have access to a great doctor. The normies out here shouldn't get them. Too big. Too white. Too big. When did you get them? Well, I guess they're considered veneers. I had a chipped tooth. Okay. And when I went, when I got. That's a story you're going with. Okay.

She goes, I was in a bar fight. I broke my nose in a car accident. And I have a sinus infection. I had a tear. Yeah, and a sinus infection. So you have a chipped tooth. I had a chipped tooth when I got on SNL. And I thought, no big deal. Whatever. That's hilarious. Yeah, exactly. Like, who cares? And then I saw myself on camera and I gasped. I was like, oh, no. Like, I look. And so I got my teeth fixed. I got veneers when I was on SNL. You would never know. Just two. But I have them. If you didn't get into Hollywood, do you think you would have gotten veneers?

Wow, that's a good question. Maybe not. I don't think so. I think like, you know, where I came from in Massachusetts and like, I don't know if I think I would just wouldn't mind my chip. But seeing yourself on camera is a different. You know how like people hate hearing their own voice, like even in a voicemail. I'm like, imagine watching yourself on TV. You're like, that's what I present to the world.

It's really, really crazy. It's a real mindfuck. Okay, so you've got to be careful with veneers. I get nervous when people shave it down and they have little nubs. Yeah. That makes me nervous. I think that that doesn't happen as much anymore. I think they've really taken it back. They don't go such a shit. We don't know the science behind that. We don't know anything about veneers. Okay, look into it. We don't know anything about it, but we hate them. And I also have to say, both of you, if I may, you both have great teeth. I thought you were going to say you both need them. So that is true.

I have a doctor. I'd like to talk to somebody who does. Dr. Keene, Beverly Hills. You both have great teeth, so talking about veneers with great teeth isn't really fair. Yeah. True. Okay? Because some of us don't have great teeth. Gel nails. Yes. Yeah. Okay. Yes. You love them. We love them. But you're taking off of them. That's the thing. You just let them grow out. I was just going to say we never take them off. We never take it off. We just re-go. Okay. Okay. Okay. How do you feel about running?

From what? What problems are you running from? Who are you running from? We can do Pilates. That's a workout laying down with BDSM equipment. We're not running. The only time I run is to get away from a man. How do you feel about people who love dogs?

Okay, you did that. You did... No, that was mean. Are you doing this on purpose? You did it on purpose. No, why? Do I know... Because we're cat people and people are... It's very controversial. Oh, okay. Right, right, right. We're huge cat people. Okay, people who love dogs. I love dogs. Yeah. I foster senior pets all the time. Get that on. Mm-hmm. Click that. People who love dogs, I love. People who say they hate cats... Yeah. I hate cats.

I don't like that. That's not nice. They've never had a cat. They don't know. It's always the dog people. They're like, I love dogs. But then Scruffy scratched me when I was four. I hate cats. I hate cats. And it's like cats just want your consent. Yeah, you're right. People think it's okay to say they hate cats. That's not nice. It's horrible. I love cats PR though. Like I love that they're hated publicly because like that's their vibe. Like they like that. If you hate cats, you hate women. And now we've said it.

I wasn't going to say it. I said it. And now we've gone there on the pod. We went there. When you're talking about traveling, how early do you like to get to the airport for a flight? Okay, that's another reason why I think we're pretty compatible. We have the same flight time. We're very big on boarding time. We like to know the boarding time, and we like to be there an hour before it boarded.

I also am very lucky where I live in New York. I'm 20 minutes from LaGuardia. So I kind of roll out of bed. That's great. The world's best airport. And I'm besties with the clear people. I get high fives from them. They're like, Hannah, good luck this weekend. They're paid to bring you in. You don't think they care. You don't think they care. Those clear people are passionate. They are your name. They do want to know people. They look at my soul. The screen says your name. That's how they know it. They didn't remember it, but...

They get paid for every person that goes through. They go, Minneapolis? They go, you know everything about me. They're like, I'm looking at your flight information, ma'am. So yeah, we're the same. We keep each other. Yeah, we're pretty similar travelers. Oh, that's really important. It's really important. That's really important. Okay, what about avocado toast? I think avocado ruins a lot of really good things.

Really? This is Paige's hot take. People are going to be so mad. I know. I think that... I don't know what year we were like, let's throw avocado on every sandwich, but I wish I paid attention more and stopped it because I don't need avocado on my turkey sandwich. It was gorgeous. Right.

Years prior, it's been a turkey sandwich forever. I don't need it now to be turkey and avocado. You don't have a mature palate. Just say it. Do you have like a baby palate? Like a little kid palate? No, don't listen to her. I'm so sorry. I will try way more things than her.

What do you do? I feel like I eat way more things than you. Like, try way more things. Not true. You eat Mexican food, and that's it. I do get hyperfixated on a meal. And if I like it, I'll eat it for a couple weeks. A couple years. Then I'll change. You've been having chili chilies for seven years. Look, I don't recommend it before a show. That's all I'm going to say. What is your favorite kind of sandwich? If you can have a perfect sandwich. Bacon, egg, and cheese. I'm so New York.

On what? Ooh, good question. Anything, but like everything bagel, roll, just bacon and cheese. My perfect sandwich would be like prosciutto, mozzarella cheese, a little olive oil and vinegar on like a hard, like good baguette. Spoken like a person has their real teeth. Yeah.

I can bite into that. Can you not bite into stuff? Well, you have to be careful when you have an ear. You have to cut. You have to go a little slower. Like, you don't want to get... You don't want to come up on an apple too fast. Got it. Because they do... They...

Yeah, they can pop up anywhere. Okay, and the last one is women who ask men to marry them. Picking your partner is the most important thing you do in your life. I'm not just willy-nilly waiting for a guy to spring it on me. I'm sitting down and having a serious discussion if you want to spend the rest of your life with me. Yes, and the bigger thing of, like, what do we expect? Like,

expecting to be chosen and waiting to be chosen rather than choosing. It's complicated. But also, I do think there's a thing sometimes where

I mean, and, you know, straight cis marriage is a whole other conversation. Like, who cares? But... Boring. No, it's very boring. It is. It's not cool. It's choogy. Getting married is choogy now. Yeah. Are we still saying choogy? No. That was choogy of me. I just want to know. We also talk on the pod, like, obviously Hannah's married, and so, like... We don't like to talk about it, though. It's very off-brand. It's so off-brand for her. It's so crazy. Don't bring it up.

Why don't you just expose me? Even when she says my husband, I'm like, what? You have a husband? We say boyfriend. But, like, we talk about how, like, people expect you to look the best you've ever looked on your wedding day. And then, like, you'll never be that skinny or pretty ever again. Like, this is your one day. Or, like, it's the best day of your life. And I remember Hannah's wedding. She was like, this is a great day. But, like, I've had better. Like, you know, like, I've had a day. Like, when she filmed her Netflix special, she was like, this is truly the best day of my life.

I was high on beta blockers, but it was an amazing day. I think we're in a generation where it is like a little, it's shifting a little bit where it's like, okay, your wedding day and your marriage isn't the best thing you're ever going to do your whole life. And that's really put on women. Yes. Where it's like, this is the best you're ever going to look. This is the best weekend you're ever going to have. Everyone's here for you. This is the last time that's ever going to happen. Yeah. So like the whole proposal thing and like a girl doing it to a guy, it's,

He hasn't said that he likes you then. That's why you're doing it, I feel like. Well, I do feel like what you two speak about a lot, and I feel like that's kind of what I mean about the freedom that comes from the women that are coming up behind me, is that the discussion about how gaslit we are all the time. That's it. The discussion in real time about how we get these crazy mixed messages all the time. Mm-hmm.

and it's like push and pull back and be this way but say what you want but it's like being a female comedian is a fuck you to the system they don't want you to call people out say things that are out of line make people uncomfortable that's what we do as comics make you think take up space that's why I love being a female comedian and yeah we get pushed back a lot but that's like what

our choices. This is the life I want to live. And I also think it's so cool you talked to our moms before because generationally

They only had so many options. I joke that ics are popular now because like back then you barely had a credit card. You couldn't have an ic with your husband. You literally couldn't divorce your husband. It was illegal. Yeah, he starts singing happy birthday at a restaurant. You're like, la, la, la, la, la. Nowadays, if a guy gets like a little baby spoon, like let me do my stand up, a little baby spoon eating an ice cream, you're like, yeah, divorce? I'm taking all the money that I made. Yeah, like get out of my house. And I'm taking the money that we never share. Yeah.

Period. Okay, speaking of laugh, before you leave, I'm asking people what they're laughing at these days. What do you look at, read, go see? I mean, I know you make each other laugh, Hannah. Hannah's text messages. When Hannah really goes off, here's the thing. Can you share a text message with us? This is when I know. No, she's smart. She does voice notes. This is when I know. You do voice notes? I thought that was a boomer thing. Oh, we love a voice note.

But they disappear. And then you can never love a voice note. No, we love that. We would be in jail. Yeah. This is when I know Hannah's husband isn't in the city. Hannah's voice noting me like crazy. She's like, and then I figured this out. And then I saw this. And oh, my God, I haven't brought this up to you. My mom will be like, you've been voice noting Paige for two hours. Pick up the phone. Yeah. But that's invasive. I don't like the phone. I don't like to talk on the phone. No. And I don't like when people FaceTime me out of the blue.

Yeah, that's aggressive. But I think you guys don't mind it as much. We don't, but we are respectful of each other's boundaries. We're respectful, but if one of us does FaceTime each other out of the blue, it is the first thing we say when we answer the phone. Like, oh, okay. What's going on? Someone must be dead. But that's why there's not more female pilots, because we don't like a dispatcher in our ear. Yeah.

We don't want to hear it. Text me. Yeah, I know where I'm going. Thanks, I know where we're going. Stop mansplaining how to land the plane. We also started doing this thing because we stay in hotels all the time with each other. Anytime one of us has to go to the other one's room, we think of a line we're going to say when we open the door. We have to have a bit going into it.

Totally. I was wearing a tie. I think it was before we met you, and we opened the door, and I was like, I'm selling you insurance. And she was like, I just puked. No, I was like, I think I'm pregnant. Life is sad. So if you don't have a friend making you laugh, what are you here for? Yeah, 100%. So what do you... Okay, so Paige gets Hannah's text to make her laugh. What makes you laugh? Paige doesn't really make me laugh that much, but...

Imagine this is where she finds out. I actually don't really enjoy the pod with her. No, Paige 100% makes me laugh so much. Okay, you guys make each other laugh, but what else? Okay, like what TV are we watching? Yes, like what do you do at night? I just watched Detroiters. I thought it was the funniest thing ever. So funny. Sam Richardson. I love comics who are really different from me. I get more like...

it's more admirable because I'm like, I could never do that. So then I think it's really funny. I love watching stand-ups. Who did I, I just watched two stand-ups this week. I watched Chelsea Handler's. I watched Burt Kreishner's. Um,

Honestly, anything on TikTok. Like TikTok is funny. Really funny. Like TikTok is the only social media app where when I log on to it, I never click my own profile and I never click my notifications. You're not rewatching your videos to be like, was that funny? No, I'm never rewatching. Where on Instagram, I'm obsessed with myself.

I'm like, my story is so aesthetic today. My grid has never looked better. I'm commenting on everyone. Where TikTok, I really go to it to just laugh. Same. I said this many times, but especially in the pandemic, wrapping back around in the pandemic, like that really saved me because there was lots of good comedy on TikTok. You've been on TikTok. Oh, yeah. She's been on TikTok. I, um...

Oh, I see you commenting gassing up the girls. You're doing great. Also, it was that hilarious moment where it was like everyone was leaving. You know,

we leave i'm gonna just tell a couple people that i think they're so cute but there's so many funny people no there's so many funny people so many funny people i also as the creativity i'm like how did you even think of that that's hilarious women are particularly so funny because i say that for female stand-ups it's hard to be in the clubs at night but that tiktok is like a safe open mic

where girls can just like put their material out there. I think there's more funny women on TikTok than there are men because I do feel like

Women are competitive with each other, but there is a sense of like we feel safe with each other. So it's like I know that my TikTok is majority girls. Yeah. So like when I put something out, I'm like, oh, it's the girls will think this is funny. So I think that's like we're guys. I don't know. They don't have that relationship with other guys. Do you like making TikToks? Yeah, I love it. Yeah, I love it. And I feel like.

I just was on it for so long and really liked it that I feel like there's a way. I mean, my biggest fear was to come on as some, like,

old lady being like the thing that drives me nuts are like people that are like I guess I should be doing this and you're like beat it it is actually like a culture of people that work really hard it's a lot of creators and it's all just comedy in a different form and having your stamp of approval legitimizes it well I don't know about that but I love it I do love it and it is like it is choogy and it is cringy

if I get it wrong, but whatever. Who cares? Amy, you've never made a mistake in your life. Also, I can't wait to see you and Tina doing some TikToks on tour, continuing. Well, she doesn't love to do them. Really? No. So I always have to kind of convince her a little bit. I feel like I'm the Tina. I didn't want to ask. Yeah. You think so? I think so. Because there's always a TikTok that Hannah's like, this is going to be so funny. And I'm like, ugh.

Get away from me. Yeah, and whoever is the quieter one, right? Yeah. Because, yeah. Yeah. I also just have to say, shout out to animals. Animals are the most effortlessly, like, I'll never be funnier than, like, a baby goat. Yeah. I've been trying to tell you that. You may look like one, but you're not one. I go, I'm not following a baby goat. I'm not following them. They're effortless. They don't care. They're everything we want to be.

the Vanity Fair red carpet. We were the first to get our picture taken because we were literally there first. And so like me and Hannah are standing next to each other and we just notice all the cameras go immediately off of us. And we're already having imposter syndrome. And we're like, shoot, someone really famous must have walked in. They literally don't give a shit about us. It was Amy Poehler. It was a dog. It was a dog. It was a dog. I go, I've waited my whole life for this moment and I'm losing to a dog? Was it a famous dog?

We don't know. We stopped asking questions. And then I saw the dog and I was like, I get it. It's a beautiful dog. It was a lab. Grew up in a nice home. We were like, that tail blowout is better than ours. I'm like, how did the lab get a Dyson Airwrap? Yeah.

And then it stood on the right side and it looked gorgeous. It took my job. It took your job. Thank you guys so much for doing this. This was so, so fun. Thank you for hanging with us, Amy. We love you. You know, I love you back. And I just, I can't wait for all the big things ahead for both of you in all different areas of the business that you're working. And we feel the same about you. It sounds weird, but we feel like, are you just getting started? Yeah.

Flip that. That would be such a great fake title for this podcast. Like, just getting started. Just getting started? Question mark? Amy Poehler, just getting started? Wait, why? Your face has to be like that for the joke. Just getting started. And then I'm like at Scales of Justice and I'm holding like a baby bottle and like a tiny little gravestone and I'm like, just getting started.

I'm hooked up to an IV. I'm like, just getting started. One of those sand clocks that just slowly goes away in time. There's a guy. I'm going like this. I'm in a baby doll dress. And I'm going, just getting started. And behind me is the Grim Reaper just waiting for me. And Botox getting injected into you. And I'm wearing pigtails and I'm in like overalls. And I'm like, just getting started. Wait for a second.

All right, we renamed the podcast. We have fun here. All right, thank you guys so much.

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That was an awesome, super fun episode of Good Hang. I loved having the ladies here. It was a blast. And we talked a lot about a lot of things. And I love stand-up comedy, despite maybe some of the things I said. Podcasts know, but I have great respect for it. And it made me think about the people that I'm watching. And I would—

encourage everybody to check out Jordan Jensen if they haven't seen her work she's a touring comedian right now and really specific funny voice just great with crowds improvises all the time deeply interesting funny woman who yeah I just wanted to give a shout out to because I think she's great so that's all I never know how to finish these things I never know how to end the podcast so okay bye

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