Monday Apr. 28, 2025 - Important update on current earnings season.
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And welcome to the Monday edition of the Best Stocks Now show with professional money manager Bill Gunderson, president of Gunderson Capital Management. I'm here with Barry Kite, our chartered financial analyst, on this April the 28th, 2025. The futures were down last night, but we are at least mixed here in the market so far today. The Dow was up 251 points yesterday.

After a very good week last week, the Dow to 40,365. The NASDAQ is down 16, however. A little weakness in NVIDIA today. We'll get to that in a bit. NASDAQ's at 17,367. The S&P 500 is up 11, 5,536 on the S&P 500.

Interest rates about the same. They're up a couple of basis points this morning with the 10-year at 4.28%. Gold is up a little bit, not at its all-time high, just slightly under it. Gold is at $3,311. Oil, $63.14. I noticed $2.49 gas here in South Carolina.

Over the weekend, gas prices have come down since the Trump inauguration. And so has the market. Bitcoin is up $749 right now.

Bit clear up to $94,746 and has been in rally mode. So welcome to today's Best Stocks Now show with professional money manager Bill Gunderson, president of Gunderson Capital Management. I'm here with Barry Kite, our chartered financial analyst. By the numbers, Barry.

Since I wrote that article on the market's going to be fine, the S&P, that was the day the S&P bottomed, and it's up 14% since then. So another pretty good gutsy call from Gunderson out there. I don't hear a lot of other guys making those calls in the landscape. I listen to the Kramers. Well, I don't listen, but I know what they're saying.

and other market gurus, UBS, Merrill Lynch, Bank of America, Goldman Sachs, Morgan Stanley. I didn't hear any of them making that call. Now, the Wall Street week last week, that was the second best weekly gain of the year.

And keep in mind that we started the week with a 1,000-point drop when Trump went into a public feud with Jerome Powell. That's how we started our week last week, with the Dow down 1,000 points. But we had a 5% advance last week in the market, which is pretty good. It was led by big tech.

Information technology, you know, the Palantirs of the world, the Meta, CrowdStrike, etc. That technology, information technology, was up 7.9% last week. Consumer discretionary was up 7.4% and communication services up 6.4%. I would say it was pretty much about earnings, earnings, earnings last week.

And the headline of my newsletter was, Earnings Trump Trump. Trump can say what he wants and upset the markets, but at the end of the day, the next four days were all about earnings. And the earnings were good. Now, brace yourself. We have 120 S&P 500 companies listed.

reporting this week. And I'm going to give you an update on this earnings season, which is surprisingly good. And I think that's why you saw the 5% gain in the market. That's the biggest reason, which included a 1,000-point drop on Monday. I think we maybe had Barry drop. I don't hear Barry out there.

We'll have to pick him back up, but that's okay. We'll soldier on here. European markets rise on signs of easing trade tensions. Are there easing trade tensions? I guess. It seems like the market eventually gets used to things. Unemployment in Spain, 10.6%. That's pretty high. I don't know what's going on in Spain, but that's been one of the leading indexes.

in the world. The Canadians go to the polls in economy and trade. And of course, you know, it'd be interesting to see what happens after Justin Trudeau finally stepped down. And I don't think a lot of Canadians were real happy with him that he took the country in.

It's going to be very interesting, very interesting. A federal election day is underway in Canada amid a worsening economic outlook for the country. The cost of living has been noted as one of the most important issues for voters. Slow productivity growth. A lot of things on the ballot there. Conservative Party head Pierre Pallivar had a big lead going into the end of 2024 in

But given the chaos surrounding the exit of leader Justin Trudeau and his minority government, since then the heir to Trudeau's liberal party, Mark Carney, I heard him speaking yesterday, has closed the polls due to his haired mind stance against U.S. threats and economic nationalists. He's pretty much running on a platform of anti-Trump.

We're not going to let the U.S. screw us. We're not going to let the U.S. take us over, blah, blah, blah, all this and that. But anyways, he's more of the liberal agenda with the climate change and things like this, the green economy. So we'll see which way Canada goes next.

That is Election Day in Canada. Pretty high stakes there, I would say. Big Tech faces high-tech earnings week amid tariff jitters. Wow. I mean, we've got a lot of companies that are going to be checking in this week, including Microsoft, Apple, Meta, Amazon.

We heard from Google last week. I think we might get NVIDIA. I have to check on that this week. Yeah, I don't know if NVIDIA is this week, Bill. I think it's four out of the seven, quote-unquote, magnificent seven. Yeah, Meta and Microsoft on Wednesday. We've got Amazon and Apple on Thursday. And then we also have, you know,

A couple of things called the ADP Employment Report, right, on Wednesday. And then we get the Employment Report on Friday, which is on foreign payrolls, which should be a pretty interesting number. We'll see what it does. And the election in Canada. We've got a big week coming up here.

And don't forget the Kentucky Derby on Saturday. I'm going to need to get some picks from you at some point this week. I was going to go this year, and my wife has a church assignment downtown Charleston about this time of year, every year. They have a house of all the churches in downtown Charleston.

Which, you know, we're the cradle of freedom of religion, and we've got like every denomination. The holy city. We call it the holy city. No building can be higher than a steeple, believe it or not, here in Charleston. So she's going to be one of the guides down there this Sunday, nixing our Kentucky Derby trip this year. I've been once. She's been once. We were going to go this year, but...

Holy City trumps the Kentucky Derby. We'll have to watch it on Saturday. Now, I'm going to go over these earnings reports and where we stand. We've got about, I think, 35% of the companies...

We've got a trend going on, and I want to talk about that because with 130 companies this week reporting, if that trend continues, you know, that could be very significant. Trump tariffs trigger sharp drop in U.S. port and air freight demand. Okay, so it's starting to show up now in the supply chain. It's showing up at the ports. It's showing up at the airports.

Of course, you've still got 145% tariff on Chinese imports. I saw one, only one over there on the, you know, on the one terminal side where you can have usually three, and they're usually filled up. So I saw a map, too, where, you know, you can follow shipping maps, right, and see where a lot of these big freighters, you know.

There's not that much activity, right? Well, the shelves are going to be empty here pretty soon at Home Depot and Lowe's and all the others, you know. The port of Los Angeles forecasting a 33% drop in scheduled arrivals for the week. We need to see some progress with China. Besant was on the Sunday show yesterday, one of the Sunday shows, and he said he doesn't know if Trump has talked personally with Xi or not.

He did reiterate that the two have a pretty good relationship, although you wouldn't know it by the big standoff that's taking place right now. But he continues to say that it's unsustainable for China. These tariffs on China are unsustainable. They depend upon manufacturing, and they depend on selling what they make.

Unless they're going to start just stockpiling, you know, like they did with the cars. Yeah, all of a sudden you're going to have all of these widgets stacking up in some city in China that never gets sold. So anyways, we would like to see some progress made this week in those negotiations. The elephant in the room is China. Update on earnings when we come back.

They call me free. Oh, we're going on. What are you feeling? Now that I've caught my love.

And welcome back here to the second quarter of today's Best Stocks Now show. There is definitely a trend in the earnings reports. Now, remember, this is the first quarter that companies are, you know, starting to figure in the cost of tariffs and the impact of...

on their earnings going forward so it's very significant quarter and very important to see what the trend is right now so Q1 2025 which obviously finished 28 days ago now we have all these companies reporting

We've had 36% of the companies in the S&P 500 report earnings so far. 73% have reported a positive earnings surprise. So I see no dip whatsoever in the companies that beat their earnings in the first quarter of this year. That's about average, 73%. 64% have reported a positive earnings revenue surprise sales.

I don't see any dip there either. And, again, that's about a normal quarter so far. Now, here's the big number for me. And it's hard to manipulate revenue, too. Yeah, you can. Earnings is a non-cash number. There's certainly some tricks that have been used over the years for that. But revenue, you know, it's hard. I mean, unless you're booking it.

revenue earlier than you actually earned it. But other than that, it's a good number in terms of 60-something percent there. Now, here's the big number for me, though. When we started this, well, last week, let's just go back to last week before all these companies reported earnings this week. We were expecting 7.2% growth versus the same quarter last year, 7.2%.

By the end of the week, that number rose to 10.1. That's significant. It's one thing to have 73% of the companies beat their earnings estimates, but to have the earnings estimates improve by that much from 7.2 to 10.1. Now,

That's the trend, okay? That is the way the earnings are trending here. What will it be by the end of this week if that continues? I mean, you could see like 15% or so, which would be phenomenal. And I believe that those earnings beats last week, and that number going up 10.1 from 7.2 was the biggest reason why we had...

The second best week in the market last week, and that's why I coined the phrase, earnings trump trump. It came down to earnings. Now, last year... Stocks follow earnings. Yes, exactly. So, all right, now, this has been a very good earnings season so far.

We are now at, we're expecting $61 per share, somewhere in that neighborhood, versus $56.45 in the same quarter last year. The forward PE ratio right now is 19.9. So, you know, a lot of that easy value in the market was taken out last week. We had a move of 5% last week.

So we started the market very undervalued. And, of course, by Monday, when we were down 1,000 points, we had a pretty good valuation on the market. But then you had four days that squeezed a lot of that valuation out, and we're back to 19.9%.

forward earnings right now which is about par okay so we're in fair value but going forward we still have plenty of upside in the market a little bit below average however now this week 180 S&P 500 companies including 11 Dow companies 11 companies in the Dow are going to report this week

We'll be reporting. So we'll see. I mean, the trend is up. The trend is, you know, for bigger growth than we were expecting. And that's why you're seeing the market so far. And I would just say from my perspective, I looked at the headlines of each company. And unless you're in the direct line of tariffs, okay, the automobile industry or the –

like companies that sell big discounted trinkets from China and things like this.

You know, I didn't see that many companies really warning that the tariffs were going to have a big impact on their business. So that's where we stand in earnings right now. Okay, now, who's going to report this week? Well, we mentioned several. Let's get a little bit more granular here so we know which days to have our tums ready. Let's see here. On Monday today...

We're going to get, let me get to my schedule here real quickly. Here we go. Okay, Monday. Monday, NXP Semiconductor, not a big deal there. Transocean Offshore, Waste Management, Domino's Pizza has already reported. So not a real big day. Usually your big days for earnings are Tuesday, Wednesday, and Thursday. On Tuesday, you're going to get Pfizer-BioNTech.

One of the worst stocks in the Dow. The Dow's got too many soggy stocks in it from my perspective. Get Pfizer out of there. Replace it with Lilly. Get UnitedHealthcare out of there. Also reporting on Tuesday, PayPal, Visa, Altria, Coca-Cola, Starbucks, General Motors, UPS, Kraft Heinz, Spotify. There's a big one for us. Booking Holdings, which is the old Priceline.com. Okay, then we go to Wednesday.

Microsoft, that will be a very big report for the NASDAQ. Meta will report. That will be a very big tech report. Qualcomm, Caterpillar, Teladoc, Etsy, MGM, MetLife. Then on Thursday, you're going to get Apple.

And Apple is in the midst of moving all of their production, all of their assembly. For U.S., yeah, for U.S. To India. Essentially phones that make it here. Yeah. To India. Okay. And Apple will report on Thursday. Amazon will report on Thursday. That's a huge day.

That Apple call will be interesting. Every once in a while you always get these transcripts where I'm like, that's what I want to read through, right? That would be an interesting one. Well, here's the big question with Apple, and I think I know the answer to it.

By moving their production to China and having those iPhones made in China. In India or in India. In China. No, in China. Oh, okay. It wasn't long before China had their Huawei phone, which worked very similar to the Apple phone, okay? So that's the risk you take, obviously, when you move offshore. Those are your trade secrets.

The question is, and that's one of the big controversial stocks today, is NVIDIA. Huawei has a chip that they're going to demo that supposedly is almost equivalent to the NVIDIA chip. That would be a big blow to NVIDIA. NVIDIA is down a little bit, so there's some doubt there.

But obviously, I mean, NVIDIA's been selling a lot of those chips to China, and they're pretty good at reverse engineering things. We'll be right back. Well, you can't turn them into a company. You can't turn them into boys upstairs just don't understand anymore.

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We've got to get together sooner or later. And welcome back here to the second half of today's Best Docs Now show. Well, we're just three weeks out from our Cleveland visit, Warrensville, Ohio, the Marriott, the big Marriott there, just east of Cleveland, Tuesday night, May the 20th.

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E.D. booking them, and we usually fill up. I've never gone on a trip yet where it wasn't full or overfilled. We've added a day before. Yes, added a day. So you can call us at 855-611-BEST to set up a financial planning, take a look at your portfolio. This is an opportunity for you.

We're going to try to get to Cleveland a couple times per year.

8-5-5-6-11 best. 8-5-5-6-11 best. Bring some statements in or some positions. Bill loves going through those sheets. I love shaking my head and holding my nose. I don't do that. I try not to do that. I try to be discreet. But inside I'm going, oh, there's Johnson & Johnson. There's Kimberly Clark. They all are. IBM. IBM.

Anyways, we shall see. We should have a prize for the best portfolio that comes in. If there is such a thing, I don't know. You've named a couple before. I've seen a few good ones because they've listened to me and bought all the stocks I talk about. All right. Trump says U.S. ships should travel through the Panama and Suez Canals for free.

After all, I mean, we helped build them, and we shouldn't be charged anyways. France is eyeing big cuts to state agencies. That's a shock because they're probably one of the most oppressive, restrictive. They'll fine you if you don't dot an I or cross a T.

but they're going to doge, do a little doge dance in France. Yeah, the thing is it's a big employment base, right? I mean, a lot of their employment bases, some of these would consider kind of federal-type jobs, and cutting that workforce essentially, right? You're cutting potential growth, retail sales, right, those things. So it's a tough situation to kind of –

maneuver out of because you fire those people or you let them go early but at some point you've got to reintegrate them into the workforce in some capacity. Maybe that trend will continue and go through Italy and Greece and Portugal and Spain where there's a lot of bloated bureaucracy.

Do you see where Spain is actually? I know you mentioned Spain having that, what, 10%? 10.6%. Yeah, and they always kind of run a bit high. But I saw where they had blackouts there. And I think Portugal almost a whole country-wide blackout. Well, the green energy won't keep up with the demand on the grid. The windmills, maybe it was not windy over the weekend. But, you know, look, I mean, that's a big problem, obviously.

Energy needs going forward for AI and all of these different things. We've got to have good nuclear and liquid natural gas and coal. I mean, those are the three most efficient sources of energy. Goldman Sachs, okay, who I rarely agree with.

They say we're almost at their year-end target right now. Well, yeah, okay, so what are they going to do, revise it up? With the S&P climbing 5% for the week, bullied by easing tariff concerns and the kickoff of a pivotal earnings season, I would say it was mostly earnings. And, of course, David Koston has always been very, very...

bearish and negative for the most part. He's their chief equity strategist. Wasn't it Abby Joseph Cohen for years at Goldman Sachs? She was always pretty cautious, too. The rally has pushed the index close. Yeah, they always got that bank, almost like a bank bent, where they always think the sky's falling. Yeah, bankers always think the sky is falling. That's pretty much right. The rally has pushed the index close.

close to the firm's near-term target price of $5,300. Well, we're at $5,500. Somebody should tell David Koston over there, knock on the window and have him go outside and look. It's sunny outside. Looking ahead, next week will be critical with 41% of the S&P 500's market capitalization set to report earnings.

So, you know, it hit $5,300, which was pretty easy to come up with that target price. You can see my latest target price. It has come down a little bit. You know, I've built in some revisions to earnings going forward. They have come down a little, not much. I'm going to say that the earnings estimates for this year and next year

have come down maybe 5%, something like that, which isn't very much. I mean, if you're talking $250 in earnings, 5% would be about $12, somewhere in there. I don't even think it's been 5%. That's even too high. It's been more like 2% or 3%. Now, for this rally to continue, we need a resolution to China. That's the elephant in the room.

I think we need a couple of Fed rate cuts, no question about it. And we need consumer strength to stick. That's what Bank of America says. I totally agree with that. Obviously, we need these earnings. But you know what? They're still very bearish. They say cash is still king over there.

at Bank of America. There's another one, Michael Hartnett, that I very seldom agree with. He's their chief investment strategist at Bank of America. Merrill Lynch is their investment arm over there. And they remain very, very bearish on the market.

For a true breakout in the market, they need a Trump-Xi peace agreement for sure, and a Fed rate cut obviously would really spur the market.

It's interesting. When I look at the CME group, they give you percentages of what the rate range will be, right, at least in terms of contracts and where people are putting their money. And if you look at the end-of-the-year contract, I mean, you've got almost 50% of folks are kind of in that range.

Almost. Basically three cuts for the year. Yeah. And there's another 35% group that's in four cuts for the year. I don't see that. I mean, that's just a – it's just pretty interesting where you see kind of what the Fed has been saying, right? And then, of course, where the market is saying, hey, they will cut.

So we'll see where that ends up at. The ECB has cut seven times, and we haven't cut once. So that's how far behind Europe we are. Now, when we go, okay, so after Cleveland, then we go back to Lakewood Ranch, and then we're headed up out to Bloomfield Hills, Michigan.

I want to go buy, I don't know if it's possible, but they're building this no-frills truck under $20,000, Slate Auto.

That's an interesting story. There's a picture of it today. I mean, it's no frills at all. There's no navigation. There's no radio. I don't know if there's even air conditioning. But you're going to get 150 miles of range, and it's going to be under $18,000. It's a cute-looking little deal, you know.

But the interesting part of it, the investors are Jeff Bezos, obviously from Amazon, Mark Walter, the controlling owner of the L.A. Dodgers, and the CEO of Guggenheim Partners, and Thomas Toll, who is the lead investor of Build Manufacturing. That's the name of the company that's doing this.

It's inspired by iconic vehicles like the Ford Model T and the Volkswagen Beetle. That's quite a combination. We built it. You make it. So you can then do a lot of upgrades and this. But the base model is going to be under $20,000. This basic little electric pickup. Now, you know, for a college kid or something like that, that was my first car was a Datsun pickup car.

When those small trucks, we wouldn't let in the big trucks, and then finally they did. They let in the Toyota. Kathy Wood projects Bitcoin to soar to $1.5 million by 2030. That's just five years from now. Why am I working? Why don't I put everything I've got into Bitcoin and just play all day? If it's going to $1.5 million, where does she come up with this stuff?

She's the craziest. I don't understand it. But that'll get you headlines, Harry. Well, I mean, if she thinks Tesla's going to $5,000 or whatever, then Bitcoin to, what, a million and a half, 1.25? I mean, it's possible apparently. In the meantime, ARK funds have sorely underperformed the market by a long shot.

But that's her Bitcoin price, $1.5 million. Okay, when we come back, we've got some individual companies to talk about here. This is the Best Docs Now show. You've got to go where you want to go. Do what you want to do and win. Do what you want to do and win.

And welcome back here to the final segment of today's Best Stocks Now. Show some stocks in the news today. Let's look at NVIDIA first. It's down 2.5%. It had a huge day on Friday.

It looks like it's put in a pretty good bottom there, and it looks pretty cheap to me. But there is rumor. We'll just have to see. I mean, does Huawei, did they pull it off? Did they come up with a competitor to NVIDIA's chip? And, of course, Huawei.

I don't think the rest of the world would buy it, but it would solve the problem for China, who is restricted from buying the NVIDIA chips. So we'll see. I mean, right now NVIDIA is down. Okay, now Pony. Pony has been a weird stock. Okay, Pony is...

China's answer here to... I'm getting some ticking here in my microphone. I hope it's not going out on the air. Pony is up 30% again today. That is a phenomenal move. That's been like three or four days, four or five days in a row. We own Pony in our emerging growth portfolio. So Pony having a huge day today, up 30%.

Twenty-nine percent. Pony has got, let's see, there's some news on Pony. What was it here? They showcased their new models at the Shanghai Auto Show. So they're kind of, Pony and WeRide, W-R-D, are the two big players for autonomous vehicles, A-Vs.

over in china uh and uh i guess it showed pretty well uh their uh their car i was on that slate website for the during the break that's kind of interesting yeah i mean i'm

Got to close this thing out. It seems like you could spend all day on here. Well, when you send your boys to college, give them a stripped-down electric. It's 150 miles. At least it will get them out of town for you. Right, and 50 bucks. I mean, I think the reserve is $50 or something. So, yeah, it's pretty enough. That could be a player. I mean, it's kind of like when the Japanese trucks came here.

How much is a Cybertruck, for heaven's sake? I mean, this is a basic little truck to get you around. And you can turn it into an SUV or a Fastback. That's a lot of stops, though, every 150 miles. Seems like it. And you don't want to wait until it's 140, believe me, because finding a charging station. But still.

I mean, for a starter car, Taiwan Semiconductor sees bullish view at B of A after the technology symposium event. The chips have definitely improved. I see a bottom there in Taiwan Semiconductor for sure. I see a bottom in NVIDIA. I see a bottom in AMD, at least for now. And it's a pretty good one. It's a pretty good one.

The other stock that's been interesting to watch here, Celsius made that big buy of Alani, A-L-N-I. I think they made a pretty good buy because Celsius has gone from 21 to 36.

About a 60% move. They say Alani New is a $1 billion brand. Wow. Alani New sold out, too. I'm sure they made a lot of money. But, you know, they're in some big outlets. Alani New, I've seen them at Walmart. I've seen them at Sam's or in Target. I think they're at Costco, too. Is that the blue can? Yeah.

200 milligrams of caffeine. That'll last you all week. I mean, you take one, it's like that, you go 150 miles on one can. Domino's Pizza falls after reporting a decline. You know, I just think that the pizza stocks, they had a corner on the market in delivery. And now with DoorDash and Uber...

You can order. You know, I saw even the downtown Charleston restaurants are now on DoorDash. If you do a search. You can get Xiaobao delivered to your door. I mean, it's pretty amazing, and it's not that expensive. No, I mean. They don't take reservations there, so at that place you'd have to actually get there at a decent time to get the food. Yeah.

Yeah, we had it delivered from John's Island one night. It was 30 miles away, and the traffic's horrendous. I mean, to go there and back would cost you $20 in gas. It was $5 to have it delivered. I don't do it very often. We had Mario's Peruvian Chicken. That's a good place. Had that delivered Friday night.

I didn't smell anything up there in the kitchen cooking, you know, my wife. And I said, I'd better order something that doesn't look too promising. Got that Mario's Peruvian chicken. Okay, now the last one I'm going to mention here, opera. Why do I mention opera? Because opera is a big AI stock out of Norway, of all places. I made a lot of money in opera a couple years back.

It went way up. I should have sold it when it was way up. Then it started to trickle downwards, and we did take a good profit in it, but it was a lot higher at one point in time. Opera reported earnings, and that stock's up 3.7% today. So anyways, if you get a chance, the newsletter, pretty important update on the macro outlook.

Because now we're starting to see tariffs factored into the equation. And, you know, I mean, what does that mean? Is it going to be a 25% hit to earnings? That would be $60 a share in the S&P this year. Is it going to be a 10% hit to earnings? That would be $24 a share. A 5% hit would be $12 a share. Out of 20 times multiple...

So $12 a share would mean 240 points for the S&P 500. But I updated everything based on what we have in the books right now, 36% of the companies. But by the end of this week, it's going to be way up there. We're going to have about 60% in the books right now.

And that's all I can say is we went from 7.1% growth to over 10%. That's a big move in just four days of earnings reports. That's the trend right now, getting to be a fatter and wider beat than expected. That's a good trend. Okay, we're out of time. To book your reservation in Cleveland, May 20th, May 21st. That's a Tuesday and a Wednesday in Warrensville, Ohio.

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