Israel vs Iran War | How October 7th Sparked a Full-Scale War in 2025
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Hello and welcome to Investigate Earth Podcast. I'm your host, Chad, alongside my beautiful wife, Sherry. On tonight's episode, we're witnessing history. The first full-scale war between Israel and Iran. No proxies, just direct strikes. It all started with the Hamas attack on October 7th, 2023, sparking chaos in the region. But now it's escalated far beyond Gaza. On June 13th, 2025, Israel launched major strikes on Iran, targeting nuclear facilities, military sites, and even locations inside of Tehran.

Several top IRGC officials were reportedly killed, and Iran responded with missile and drone attacks on Israeli cities, including Tel Aviv and Jerusalem, causing civilian casualties and widespread panic. As of tonight, the exchange continues. Both sides are taking hits, and the threat of wider escalation grows by the hour. We're not here to take sides. We're here to ask, how did we get here, who benefits, and what's next? This is Investigator Podcast, guys. Welcome to the show. It is June the 15th, 2025.

The name of that song is Boom by Humblebee. And he says, look, I'm here to say what's up, you know, and that's what we're going to do on tonight's episode. We've obviously talked a lot about the Iran and Gaza situation or the Iran-Palestinian war.

And obviously this has been a very contentious subject for Sherry and I, but I am cutting to the chase on tonight's episode and we're going to tell it like it is. At least I am. And I'm sure Sherry will have her opinion as well. So join us because this should be a very interesting show. There's been everything going on. Obviously we've had the massive LA riots where

the people are writing against the ice agents. They say that people that are here illegally, especially criminals should absolutely be allowed to be here because they're really good people on the inside. Deep, deep, deep, deep down inside. Maybe when they were like six months old, but

But, you know, most people really hate the fact that we are actually utilizing ICE, which is what they are there for, to do their job. And so we are seeing mass wide scale protests. We recently saw the No Kings protest across the country. And this come on the same day that Donald Trump and the Trump administration actually held a huge rally.

Army celebration. It is the 250th birthday from the United States Army. And they had a huge event in Washington, D.C. I thought it was really cool to watch. We had basically tanks, tons of soldiers, concerts. And then you had Trump and kind of on the stage. It does kind of remind you a little bit of, I guess, what like North Korea does or China does and some of their military exercises or at least parades.

And so obviously the left, CNN, a lot of the mainstream media kind of went hardcore against Trump for showing strength, showing what America really should be to kind of get the patriotism back. There was a lot of people that kind of was divided on it. But either way, at the same time, all this was happening. You have this Middle East thing going on where Israel has attacked Iran's nuclear facilities, not all, but most of them. They've also killed some of their highest leadership in Iran's military and government.

And then you had Iran finally actually able to get through the Iron Dome, the Iron Dome that was once said to be 100 percent safe and effective. Although we know when they say it's safe and effective. Yeah. When they know when they say it is 100 percent effective, it usually is not. And I think we've been seeing over the past few nights, Iran has retaliated against Israel for the strikes on their nuclear facilities. And it seems like what Iran is doing, Sherry, is countering.

Um, obviously the iron dome is a very, uh, complicated, but also very technologically advanced system of, uh, I guess, anti-aircraft anti-missile. Uh, you know, they, they have these things across all the city, all the cities across Israel. And these things are heat guided or laser guided, um,

you know, ground to air missile systems to where they will intercept most everything coming inside of the Israel territory. But it seems like that Iran has got a little smarter. They are overwhelming those systems with some of their smaller munitions or drones. It seems like what Iran has done is they're bringing in tons of drones. And so then these, uh,

You know, these anti-aircraft, anti-missile fire, the Iron Dome systems are actually going after the drones, which then weakens the system, allows these major missiles, these and these in some cases intercontinental ballistic, maybe hypersonic missiles coming in and hitting some pretty high value targets. And when I say high value for Iran, it's basically anyone they can kill. And unfortunately, in Tel Aviv,

It has been some citizens that we've seen have died so far. We don't know what the actual toll to that is, but this thing is about to massively escalate. Well, just to back it up for just a second, Chad, we have to think about the L.A. riots protests and why they're doing that. According to the left, they are saying that they are taking cooks and dishwashers and children out of schools and arresting all these people. And they're not.

just going after criminals, but they're going after civilians that might have been there in America for 15 years. I don't see that. I think that their main target is criminals and people that are bad and that we need to get out of the United States. And I think they're targeting those people. But I am going to say that there are some, probably

Probably innocent people, not innocent because they are illegal immigrants. But there are some people getting in the backlash. If they're there and they're illegal, they're going to get scooped up, too. Yeah. And especially, you know, you have to understand we've been watching a lot of these videos, too, to where these ICE raids will happen.

at facilities or places of work and then the families will show up and they will be trying to stop the ICE agents from doing their job. And this is oftentimes how a lot of the collateral damage, I guess you can say some of the family members that may not be criminal are actually also being deported. And in some cases, some of these people say they want to be deported with their husband or boyfriend or whatever. And they're trying to keep the families together, I guess, in that way. But

Either way, while all this is going on, we have so much more going on in the world. Yeah. And I just wanted to mention, too, if you want to hear the leftist opinion about the 250th birthday of the army, it was also President Trump's birthday. But they're asking, why did President Trump spend four hundred and fifty million dollars on a parade?

And my simple answer is he didn't pay it. There were sponsors that paid for this parade. Yeah, I'm sure there were definitely, I mean, taxpayer dollars. But, you know, the funny thing is mainstream media and the left don't care about the money that's being spent by tax dollars until it's something that Trump or this administration does. It's only when they do something, right, whether it's for patriotism or a show of force or a celebration of the Army, a 250-year parade.

They care about that, but they don't care about all the wasted tax dollars that go to all kinds of random shit, which Doge has largely uncovered over the past, I don't know, six months where we were literally funding transgender studies of mice. We were funding like crazy random LGBTQ plus story times in Africa. I mean, you name it, we've been funding it, including all of the Beagle studies and all the stuff that they were horrifically torturing animals with.

the NIH and Anthony Fauci and all this bullshit. And a lot of those reasons why I think we were torturing animals to begin with was to make some type of virus that would jump from animal to person. And, you know, when you think about like, why would they be torturing beagles and animals like domestic pets and

on a wide scale basis, likely it is more than likely because they want to try to figure out how they can get a virus to jump from a everyday dog or animal that we all have in our house or houses on a daily basis. How can we get a virus that can then become contagious from pet to pet owner? And so I was reading something about that. I don't think we really understand in some ways how corrupt some of these agencies are

That doge went in to try to figure out where's the money going? How do we stop the money? But I don't think we've even scratched the surface so far of what we're going to find and where a lot of this money was going. A lot of that stuff was heavily hidden. And so it'll be interesting to kind of see how that all plays out. And then back to the topic that we are talking about this evening is Israel in Iran. And we're talking about what you just brought up, the Iron Dome.

How is it possible that they're getting these weapons past it? Because it was supposed to be 100% foolproof. Well, that's what I'm saying. I mean, Iran is doing something that I think that anybody would do smartly is they want to overwhelm the Iron Dome systems.

with things that they can afford to lose. So whether that's the shitty drones or some of these smaller munitions that don't cost them as much money, they know if they want a strike inside of Israel, they have to overwhelm the Iron Dome. They have to bring in more munitions than what the Iron Dome can handle at any given time, because they obviously even all of these battery sites, which is where these missile systems or these missiles actually come from, these say these

interceptor missiles from Israel, they have to be able to overwhelm those systems. And then they have to also be able to reload those systems. Israel does in a timely fashion. So Iran's basically trying to time it perfectly to where they overwhelm the system and then they bring in their bigger missiles. So some of those intercontinental ballistic missiles, those hypersonic missiles, and they'll usually send those right on the backs of everything else, this huge wave they're sending in. Now they kind of did that

What was it? Probably seven or eight months ago when they brought in all the drones from from Iran and Iran was just kind of I don't even think Iran was trying to screw with Israel, really, because they knew they weren't going to get the drones past the Iron Dome system. But I think what Iran was doing, because they probably knew there was going to be a bigger conflict at some point in time.

with Israel. I'm sure their intelligence and everybody knew that was what was to come, especially with the Donald Trump administration saying, you guys are not going to get a nuclear weapon. You're going to come to the negotiation tables, although they have not done so. So I think seven months ago, they utilized a, I guess, a response because Israel did

actually strike inside of Iran again. I think it was in Tehran about seven months ago. And so what Iran's response was, was sending tons of drones and all this bullshit that just got blown out of the sky. Nothing actually hit. They didn't use any of their bigger missiles during that retaliatory attack. But what I do think they did

during that time was almost like an intelligence gathering operation. They wanted to see, you know, how many drones or smaller munitions they would need to be able to overwhelm the system to where when it comes to a point where they want to actually hit targets inside of Israel, such as Tel Aviv, they would know. And I think that's why we have seen some pretty high success rate from Iran over the past few days, uh,

And and I think it's because seven months ago they were able to see here's what it's going to take for us to get some of our larger, longer range, faster missile systems inside of Israel. And I don't think it's over because Iran has a lot more missiles at play, depending on what Israel's next move is. And maybe even the United States will talk about whether or not the United States will actually get involved there.

But I don't think necessarily that Iran may just be working by themselves. I think right now, if you look at the kind of the world stage,

Obviously, Russia knows that the United States is using Ukraine as a proxy into a war with Russia. But you also have to look at China. China and Russia have never been closer, especially since the Russia-Ukraine war. So this has literally pushed China and Russia as like best BFFs. Those guys have never been closer than they are right now. And so China and Russia...

alike right now are looking at this potential situation to say we could utilize Iran as a proxy against not only Israel, but also the United States. And really, Russia doesn't really give a shit about Israel, but they do care about the United States. And if the United States gets involved, I think that's when we'll see Russia and China maybe get involved. Yeah. And I, too, think that

Yeah, for sure.

is their best for last going to be nuclear weapons that are even sent from Russia to Iran? I doubt it. I don't think this thing will ever get nuclear because I know, number one, Iran would never likely do that. Number one, I don't even think Iran has nuclear weapons.

To me, this whole Iran not getting nuclear weapons, I mean, they've consistently said on mainstream media, we can't allow Iran to get nuclear weapons. So that means that they don't have nuclear weapons right now. Will Russia or China possibly give a...

Most people believe Iran as a terrorist state. At the very least, the administration and the leadership of Iran being a terroristic state. I don't think Russia would, within a million years, give them a nuclear warhead, nor would China. I don't necessarily even think they are even close to a nuclear weapon. They've been saying this about Iran since 1995. Yeah, I think 94 actually.

Actually, 94, 95. Our presidents have been saying ever since 95, we can't allow Iran to get a nuclear weapon. The only president really that's helped Iran was Obama. Obama was giving out money to Iran and not only giving back money to Iran. He said, we're going to pay it even with interest, which I do have a clip about that. But, you know, this is all going to play out in a way that I don't think anybody wants it to play out, because if Israel isn't careful, Iran

And especially if the United States today said, you know what, Israel, you're on your own. If you're going to attack shit inside of Iran, which Trump did come out and say that he did know about the attacks prior to the attacks inside of Iranian territory on the nuclear sites.

And a lot of people were questioning that. Did Trump know that Israel was going to attack the nuclear facilities inside of Iran? Trump did come out and say, yes, I did know this. But he did veto killing or going after assassinating the main leader of Iran. Yes. So there was a recent story that I guess Benjamin Netanyahu and the Israeli government wanted to actually assassinate the president, the leaders, the prime minister or not prime minister, what do they call him? The leader of Iran, Netanyahu.

They have been planning to do that. And from what the word on the street is, is that Trump vetoed that and said, you are not going to do that.

The big thing will be is whether or not Israel does it on their own. Will they go against Trump's word and try to do it on their own? I doubt it. But also we got to start thinking about false flags. You know, Israel is in a situation where they desperately want the United States fully involved in this war in the Middle East. Yet another war in the Middle East, just like Iraq, just like Afghanistan. And so what and how far will Israel?

uh, Israel and Mossad and the IDF or whoever, how far will they go to make sure we get involved in this war? Will there be false flags? Will Israel set up something inside of the United States or something similar to a mass terror attack to blame it on Iran, to really draw us into Iran? That is all very possible, but it's also possible. They don't even got to do it inside the United States. Um, now, uh,

Iran has threatened that they may go after some of our bases in the Middle East. And Trump and the administration has said without question, if you do this, this is our red line. We will be 100 percent up your ass so fast. You know, you can't even fathom it. But what if Israel attacks our bases inside of. Oh, yeah. And says or in that area and then blames it on Iran. That would be not a good thing. But I have to say, for the benefit of Israel.

Iran, if they had nuclear weapons or they didn't or they were close, I think what Iran was going after, I mean, Israel is going after is their nuclear weapons and their supplies to build nuclear weapons. And not only is that helping Israel, but it's helping the entire world because no one wants Iran to have weapons.

Weapons like that. Yeah. Well, there's a lot of people to probably feel the same way about Israel as well. I mean, a lot of people say we don't want Israel to have nuclear weapons either, although likely Israel does have nuclear weapons. They're not known to be like a nuclear power of the world. But most people believe most experts will tell you that 100 percent Israel probably has nuclear weapons.

And if you start looking at like really how just completely corrupt the Israeli government is very similar to Iran. So when I when I start talking about the Israeli government, we're going to compare both governments, both Iran and Israel. We're going to tell you what the people in Israel think about Benjamin Netanyahu and the leadership of.

We're going to go a little bit back to October 7th and what people blame Benjamin Netanyahu and the administration in Israel for doing. Not only there are a lot of people believe he knew about it beforehand, he refused to do anything about it, but also even the negotiations with the hostage release. A lot of people were pissed off about that also.

So there's a lot to talk about. Yeah, there is. And I just want to point out real quick that even though Israel is going after mainly these target areas that are non-civilian areas, Iran is going after civilian areas in Israel. Yeah.

Well, Sherry, listen, I'm going to go ahead and tell you, you better not even start trying to say, oh, Israel is not going after civilian areas. Look at Gaza. OK, so I'm talking about in Iran. Yeah. OK. In Iran as of right now. But we also know what Israel is capable of. If they do want to just wipe out mass populations of people, they will do it. They will and they can. And they will. And that's not good. Obviously, that's civilians. So.

What I'm saying is like, let's not make let's not put Israel on a pedestal like they don't kill civilians because they absolutely on a pedestal. But I'm saying right now at this moment, this is the difference between where the strikes are going. The strikes from Iran to Israel are going on civilian properties now.

Israel is not targeting civilians at this time. Well, Iran is going to do anything they possibly can to make strikes. It doesn't matter where it is. If they can get it in, they're going to do it. And because they almost have to with the amount of leadership that was just taken out, you

You know, just a few nights ago. Right. They're kind of on their backs. And so they're slinging arrows to wherever they possibly can to hit anything inside of Israel. So we have to keep that in mind. But anyways, before we get any deeper into this, we do want to let you guys know we do have a store. It's investigate or store dot com. We've finally got a store merchandise store. So we got a lot of cool designs here.

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So if you want to come over to Telegram, just download the app, look up Investigators Conspiracy Podcast, and you will find us. But that's it for all of the housekeeping, I guess you can call it. Here's the official story of what's been happening over the past few days. This is mainstream media's take on the Israel-Iran conflict.

Iran launched retaliatory missile and drone strikes into Israel this morning following Israel's attack on Iran's nuclear program. The U.S. is assisting in Israel's defense but denies any involvement in the initial attack. Israel's defense minister is warning that Tehran will burn if Iran

continues to fire missiles towards Israel. Bradley Blackburn is joining us live now from the newsroom with the latest details on all of this. Bradley? Doug, Elaine, this morning there are more reports of strikes in Iran and Israel. Iran, as you said, Doug, is warning it could take

aim at U.S. military bases and ships if they try to stop Iran's missiles. And today, Israel's defense minister did have that declaration that if Iran's counterattack continues, quote, Tehran will burn.

Overnight, explosions lit up the sky over Tel Aviv as Iran launched another counterattack. The Israeli military urged civilians to take shelter as they intercepted the strikes with the Iron Dome system. The U.S. is assisting in the defense, but some weapons slipped through. The IDF said dozens of people have been injured, some seriously, and there are reports of some deaths.

Dozens of sites have been targeted. At daybreak, first responders assess the damage. The intensifying conflict has the world worried about an all-out war. It ignited Friday when Israel attacked Iran's nuclear sites. Iran claimed hundreds were injured and at least 78 people were killed, including some top officials.

Israel's attack had been in the works for months. Israeli media reports Israel's intelligence service, the Mossad, built a drone base inside Iran for the assault. This video released by Mossad showing Israeli soldiers on Iranian soil. I do think what they're trying to do is to further illustrate how the Iranian regime has lost control of their country. Crowds gathered in Tehran Saturday chanting death to Israel and death to America. Iran's supreme leader has vowed revenge.

while Israel's prime minister appealed to the Iranian people. - We're also clearing the path for you to achieve your objective, which is freedom. - The US says it is assisting with Israel's defense but was not involved in the attack, insisting Israel took unilateral action against Iran.

President Trump does say he knew the attack was in the works, but he had publicly been appealing to Israel to hold off, to let nuclear negotiations with Iran continue. The White House claims the talks scheduled for tomorrow are still on, despite the conflict. Malene, Doug. Bradley Blackburn, live for us from the newsroom. Bradley, thank you. Meanwhile, here in the city, the NYPD is increasing security at some... So there you go. And there is the official mainstream media story. Now, I don't know if you've heard of it, but I don't know if you've heard of it.

What the crazy thing is, is apparently how Israel carried out these attacks inside of Iran is by sending them Assad agents inside of Iran to build drone bases inside of this country. Yeah. How did that happen?

How did they do that? To then use to go strike the nuclear bases or the nuclear facilities inside of Iran. Well, it goes back to right, you know, not long after October 7th, when Iran intercepted a shipment of pagers. Yeah. They then put, I guess, explosives inside of these pagers. Israel did. Yes. That's what I meant. Israel did. And most of these pagers were going to, I guess, Hamas territory.

Yeah. Leaders, soldiers, whoever. And so when their pagers went off, they sent out a page at the exact same time that triggered these explosives inside of their pagers. And so there were people with legs blown off. A lot of them died. I mean, this is some deep level intelligence type shit. And we've always said on this show many times, Mossad is one of the most advanced and intelligent intelligence agencies on the planet and

And oftentimes, like I remember when we had Rashid on the episode and, you know, he works for the government. That's all I'll say for now anyway, because he's retiring at the end of this month and he's starting his own podcast, which I can't wait to bring him on. So Rashid, if you're listening, can't wait to talk to you on this show again after you retire. But yeah, Rashid was talking about kind of when he had had some close encounters or at least even working with Mossad in certain times or kind of being over in Israel and

just kind of how Mossad moved and how they worked. And it was very, very similar to U.S. intelligence. And, you know, oftentimes people think of the CIA as being the most advanced intelligence agency in the world. But I think Mossad is right there with the CIA. And I think they work hand in hand very closely together.

Because Israel really is the United States kind of little brother, I guess you can say, especially in the Middle East. And the United States knows that they can utilize Israel for missions and operations in anywhere in the Middle East. And they utilize Israel for that reason. So Israel.

Yeah.

And not to go against Israel, because you guys know I always stand for Israel. But I feel like, you know, after doing this podcast for so long, Israel is kind of a big brother to America as well, as far as American politics goes.

When you think about the NGOs and the funding and the lobbyists, a lot of this money is funded through Israel to get certain people elected. Yeah. And I think that plays a huge part in American politics. Well, it does. I mean, they should not have the influence they have over U.S. politics whatsoever. Israel has AIPAC. And for those of you who don't know what AIPAC is, it is the biggest lobbying group pretty much of Israel.

any lobbying group we have in U.S. politics. And AIPAC heavily funds politicians inside the United States, both Democrat and Republican. And it's also interesting as you see the politicians that are funded by AIPAC, and then you see the ones that don't take money from AIPAC.

Usually those politicians that at some point in time decide to quit taking money from Israel, maybe it's because of their base or their far left liberals. A lot of their people are pro-Palestinian. They're pro-Hamas in some cases. And then they refuse to take money from AIPAC. Those people don't last very long in politics in the United States.

And that is how much influence AIPAC has over U.S. politics. That should absolutely not be the case because any lobbying group that is a foreign agent or a foreign group has to register as to be a foreign agent. I remember John F. Kennedy. John F. Kennedy was pushing hardcore for Israel and AIPAC to actually register as a foreign agent.

And he was one of the presidents in our past that was heavily talking about that. And he said, we cannot have the influence in U.S. politics from even Israel like we do. And so there was a lot of people, there was a lot of conspiracies like, did Israel have anything to do with JFK's assassination and all this stuff? There was a lot of those conspiracy theories as well. But I want to talk about Iran for a minute. For those that don't really understand the history of Iran and kind of who they are,

Well, they have the supreme leader, Rabar, which is the highest authority, both politically and religiously. And the current supreme leader is Al-Atul Ali Kalamini. And he's been in office since June 4th, 1989. He oversees all branches of government, the military, including the IRGC or the Iranian National Guard, basically, or the Guard Service.

in the media now the president which is the head of the executive branch but still subordinate to the supreme leader now the current president is massad passage passes shinken a reform-minded figure who took office in july 28th of 2024 the reason he had to take office is because their other president miraculously somehow died in a helicopter crash no idea how that happened and

Had nothing to do with Israel, I'm sure. But there's been public discontent going back to the 1970s in Iran. So Shah's regime, they had corruption and repression in the mid 1970s under Shah. Iran saw rapid oil fueled growth, but wealth was unevenly distributed with widespread corruption among elites, which we see that pretty much everywhere.

But then the Shah's regime was also politically repressive, secret police, torture, suppression of dissent. Even as some intellectuals and poor Iranians were disenfranchised, they would torture you or kill you if you came out against the regime. And,

By 1977 to 79, diverse groups, leftist, nationalist, religious, they all went against the Shah. Their primary goal was to overthrow his autocracy, not necessarily install an Islamic state. But that revolution culminated in 1979, the Islamic Republic, and they were supplemented in secular monarchy with the theocratic system ruled by clerics under the doctrine of Balat Fajik.

Now, while people still represent the government, many supporters of the revolution hope for justice and political inclusion. Instead, the new regime became highly authoritarian, imposing strict religious laws and limiting freedoms, especially for women, and carrying out mass executions in the 1980s. Now, the legacy of economic mismanagement, repression, and lack of democratic institutions continued from the rollbacks on civil liberties to morality, police, and harsh punishments. But

But public dissatisfaction has resurged in waves. In 1999, student protests, 2009 Green Movement, and the 2019-22 uprising sparked by the death of Masha Amini. Now, government's stern crackdown, executions, and aggressive enforcement of Islamic morality laws continue to fuel resentment, and many Iranians see little improvement over Shah's era. So,

This government came in and they were authoritarian. They were dictators and they imposed strict laws and especially against women. But it wasn't just against women. You know, it's interesting how if you look on the streets of America where people that are protesting for Hamas, right, they're protesting for people, including if this war really goes full out with Iran and Israel, you will for sure see

have people in the streets on college campuses in the United States protesting for Iran. And what they don't realize about that is that if you go over and you are part of the LGBTQ plus community, because a lot of these people that are out protesting pro-support of Hamas, pro-support of Iran, whatever the case is, if they go over to Iran or they go over to where Hamas rules,

they would likely be executed or thrown off a balcony. I've literally seen people on video thrown off of rooftops because they were gay or lesbian. Yeah, they don't put up with that there. No. And it's what gay and lesbians and that whole community doesn't understand when they have their pride flags for them. They don't understand if they were in Iran, they would be killed. Their heads would be beheaded. Yeah, absolutely. Absolutely.

And so, you know, I was talking to my friend the other day, Zach, and he owns a business here near where we live. And he's Muslim and along with his family. You know, one of the things I asked him, we were briefly talking about the Israel-Iran situation. And obviously him being a Muslim, kind of from the Middle East, understanding what is really going on over there to a degree that he lived there. He knows a lot of his family is still there. And it's like you said, Iran and Israel are both corrupt. They are 100% both corrupt. And so, you know, I was talking to my friend the other day, Zach, and he owns a business

Even when I was thinking or expecting him to just be like, well, you know, Israel's horrible, whatever. He's like, no, they're both corrupt. I mean, there's zero question about that. And I believe that as well. And when you talk about corruption in Israel, there's a lot of people that just all of a sudden and out of the blue, not all of a sudden and not for no reason, but all of a sudden has 100% went against Israel. And oftentimes they correlate Israel with Jews. And so it's like the anti-Semite thing.

Um, what I do want to say is, although I think Israel is extremely corrupt and I think they're as, or if not close to as corrupt as Iran is, as far as the government goes, that does not mean the people of Israel are corrupt. Same way that I say that the people of Iran are not corrupt, just like their government and their leadership. There are now over 1 million Christians inside of Iran. There is a mass movement, uh,

in Iran that more people are becoming Christian in Iran than we've ever seen in history. They are the, I think it's called the Christ wave in Iran. And so a lot of the people in Iran do not want their government. They don't want to be a part of this shit either. A lot of the people in Israel do not want what's happening to happen. The people in Israel did not want for Israel to retaliate to the point of killing

Thousands and thousands and thousands of people in Palestine because those are civilians, regardless of whatever civilians mindsets are based on the leadership and authoritarian ideology.

I guess, structure of Palestine to where they want you to believe that you should hate all Jews. Not everyone in Palestine hated all Jews. That's just not the way it works. It's the same way as if you grew up thinking something. And as you get older, you start seeing the world as it is. And then you start realizing that, hey, something I was taught for so long is not necessarily the truth anymore.

There are so many people in Palestine that didn't hate Jews. There are people that were taught to hate Jews, but I also believe in a lot of ways there are people in Israel that have been kind of taught to hate Palestinians. And it's the same on both sides. And one doesn't make the other right. Well, it's kind of the same in America. When we talk about racism, we talk about blacks versus white. It's the same philosophy, the same concept. You know, some people are

raised to be that way. Some people are born into that. Some people realize that when they get older, some people don't. But it was interesting to me when I was listening to Netanyahu's interview with Brett Barr on Fox today, he was telling the people of Iran, we're not

coming after you as the people. We are coming after the leadership. We want to free you from this leadership because we know you don't like your leadership as much as we don't like your leadership. But it doesn't mean we don't like you. And I think it kind of goes vice versa. Yeah. Well, as far as leadership and citizens. Let me tell you something about Israel's leadership. So the head of state is President Isaac Herzog. He was president since twenty twenty one.

It's mostly ceremonial, represents the unity of the state, doesn't hold executive power. And then the head of government, Prime Minister Benjamin or Bibi Netanyahu. The real power lies with Bibi and he commands the military, shapes foreign policy and drives domestic legislation. He has parliament power. He holds judicial review powers, can overrule government on certain laws.

has long been considered a pillar of Israeli democracy and balance. So why are Israelis protesting Benjamin Netanyahu? Number one, judicial overall crisis. 2023-2024, Netanyahu's coalition tried to pass sweeping reforms to weaken the power of

of the Israeli Supreme Court. They aimed to limit the court's ability to strike down laws, give the innocent more control over judge appointments. They removed the reasonableness clause that let the court block decisions deemed extremely unjust. And so critics saw it as a power grab that would destroy judicial independence and checks on the executive, and it triggered the largest protests in Israeli history.

with hundreds of thousands of people in the streets for weeks. And even military reservists and elite pilots refused to serve in protest against Benjamin Netanyahu. And then Netanyahu was currently on trial for multiple charges, including bribery, fraud and breach of trust.

Protesters claim he is pushing legal reforms to protect himself from conviction. And in 2022, Benjamin Netanyahu returned to power with the most far-right coalition of Israeli history, including religious Zionists and ultra-nationalists like Ammar Ben-Gavar and Benzal Smokschwitz.

I'm definitely saying those names wrong, but whatever. These figures have pushed for increased settlement expansion in the West Bank, more aggressive policing and control of Palestinian areas. And they are also against LGBTQ plus and anti-secular laws. While people are mad, many secular Israelis, moderates and liberals fear a theocratic drift and erosion of democratic reforms.

And then the cost of living has expanded. Israel's cost of living has surged, especially in housing. Many see Bibi's priorities, legal reform settlements as ignoring economic suffering and protests are just political. They're also about daily survival. And then the Gaza October 7th backlash after Hamas October 7th, 2023 attack.

BB launched a massive war in Gaza and many initially supported it, but backlash grew. There were many critics that said Netanyahu failed to prevent attack despite years of warnings and possibly even knowing about the attack months before it happened. And so there was a lot of people that knew it in the streets of Israel. They thought that Benjamin Netanyahu knew about the attacks that was coming on October 7th. We've actually talked about that on the podcast before.

And there were families of hostages held in Gaza accusing him of dragging out hostage negotiations to maintain political control. And so this is all this has been a growing thing. There's been a lot of people, a lot of family members of the hostages that were held by Hamas that were really pissed off and not satisfied at all with Benjamin Netanyahu because they thought that he was trying his very best to stretch that shit out as long as possible. And especially when you have all these hostages.

And then you just keep bombing the shit out of Gaza. You just bomb every building you can possibly bomb. Now, Hamas did come out and say that many of the hostages were actually killed because of the bombings. We don't know for sure if that's true or not. But if you do destroy an entire freaking city where a lot of these hostages are being held, it's likely that some of these could have been killed by the bombings.

But what the family wanted to say or wanted Benjamin Netanyahu to do was, hey, chill on the bombings until we get some of our damn hostages out. Like start negotiating instead of just blowing everything up. And did he care? No, he didn't. He just kept blowing shit up. And so if you think about Benjamin Netanyahu, they have.

problem in Israel because Benjamin Netanyahu's approval rating is the lowest it's ever been. It's actually the lowest of any prime minister or leader in

In the history of Israel, there is a I think it's like 80 percent disapproval rating of Benjamin Netanyahu among citizens in Israel. So and then yet you have this guy that's leading Israel into possibly a all out major conflict with Iran that could also draw the United States into war and maybe even World War Three. We don't know, but it's very possible. Yeah.

Let me just say this too. And I do agree with you. And it is possible that a lot of these hostages could have been killed in these bombings, but I think a lot of them were underground.

And they were underground where they were protected from the bombing. But think about Trump for just a minute before he was reelected. He had 43 felonies that he was convicted of before he became president. So can you believe everything that media tells you? Because the 43 felonies that Trump was convicted of was complete bullshit.

Yeah. I mean, yeah. In Trump's case, absolutely. I agree. And unfortunately for me is that I don't know about what the deal is with Benjamin Netanyahu. I do know that he's been in power for like ever.

So kind of like already there, it's like that kind of seems like a dictator. But it also is just weird because of his actions and the continued like, hey, we're going to go bomb Iran, although we could just stop doing this shit right now. You know, we could actually let the Trump administration and the

the U S government come in and do whatever they can to negotiate peace. But it seems like that they just keep pushing back on that. Although Trump came out and said, well, we didn't know about it, but we also know that before they did it, Trump continually told him, we should not do this right now. Please let us negotiate peace in the region before you go and attack Iran, because all that's going to do is escalate this deeper. And so what did Benjamin Netanyahu and Israel do? They were like, Nope, we're going to bomb it anyway.

But Trump gave them a 60 day grace period to come to the table and make a deal. And Iran did not come to the table. Yeah, but it's just I guess the thing is, is that I understand the Iran nuclear thing. But I also remember that when we were told that, you know, Iraq had weapons of mass destruction and we had to go into Iraq and destroy Iraq. You know, I was talking to Chris about that today. He was in Iraq.

And it was like, well, come to find out they didn't have any weapons of mass destruction. We don't know what we're being told. And the problem is that any time on mainstream media, when you have both the left and the right on board with something, that's when your ass really has to look out for what the lies are.

Because any time that like CNN is saying, yeah, we should definitely attack Iran and Fox News is like, yeah, we should absolutely attack Iran. And yeah, we got to we got to do this. We got to do that. There's something very coordinated happening and likely you're not getting all the facts about what's actually going on. Yeah, because it's damn if you do and damn if you don't. Because what if the facts are right? And what if they were very close to building nuclear weapons? That would be destructive for the entire world, not just Israel. I get that. Yeah.

Well, Owen Schroer, he is with InfoWars. He always has very interesting takes about what he thinks about stuff. And, you know, his video got a lot of views, but I want to make sure that we get his message out on here. I've communicated back and forth with Owen a couple of times, and he has a special segment on InfoWars. And so this is what his thoughts are. Like, what are the stakes after the Iran strikes? And here's what he thinks. So Israel has officially struck Iran. Yeah.

and the world is responding. Now I'm gonna tell you everything that is at stake

And everything that led up to this, at least in recent history, because obviously this history goes back decades. And Netanyahu has been trying to get the U.S. involved in Iran since 1992. And he's been telling America that Iran has had a nuclear weapon since about 1995. Now, has any of that been true? He's had no evidence. He's had no proof. And yet here we are.

Now, let me just start off with this, and something happened that may determine whether this is true or not, but I've always suspected that Israel and Iran play these war games with one another to keep their people in fear and in control. Now, I'm not saying Israel and Iran get along. I'm just saying they use the hatred and the fear and everything to keep their people in control and to keep this issue going so that they can—

use one another to stay in power, essentially, using it as their big political issue. Now, it's being reported that Israel has killed in a targeted strike one of many, which they say is going to be going on for days, an Iranian military chief of staff. Now, I wouldn't be surprised for one second that Iran would sacrifice its own for this war,

to just keep the thing going. I've seen what the pundits on each side of this issue do and are willing to say and jump at anything to make the other side look bad. So I've seen what the hatred does. So it wouldn't surprise me if it's there at the political level as well. Now, before I get into the rest of the details, here's two things that I think are important for America to reflect on. One,

There's all these polls going around saying, do you support Israel or do you support Iran? Well, what do you mean? I'm an American. What do we mean? Do I support Israel or Iran? I support America. What is this concept that somehow America has no sovereignty or no isolation from the issue? We shouldn't have to pick. It shouldn't be a binary choice. It should be about America. That's what it should be about.

Now, the other issue that might take a little longer to reflect on is, you know, America, the Trump movement, MAGA, however you want to say it, there's going to be a lot of soul searching as these events go on. Because a lot of MAGA is anti-war. I would say most of MAGA is anti-war. Now, MAGA is kind of split on the Israel issue, but even the pro-Israel MAGA side is anti-war.

So how are we going to reflect on this? What is our soul going to tell us if this war gets worse and if we get drug into another war in the Middle East?

So there's going to be a lot of soul searching here. And what good is make America great again if we can't even be isolated from this war-torn region of the world, if we can't even be isolated from these foreign countries and these foreign conflicts that are just filled with hate? We'll never be able to make America great again as long as we're entangled in the Middle East. I think that that's pretty clear, and that's going to be a major soul searching issue for America and for, I think, the Trump base.

Now, what's crazy is, do you know what the day is right now in Iran and Israel? Friday the 13th. But I guess that's just kind of a coincidence. Now, this is not the first time that Netanyahu has attempted to sabotage the Trump administration's negotiations in Iran.

And Netanyahu is getting more and more desperate because the Trump administration, I believe, the Trump administration has purged Israeli spies or informants from its administration. So not only did Israel lose control of the negotiations, they no longer have people in the room reporting back to Israel what is going on. So Netanyahu has been desperate. And it appears the only mouthpiece or informant that Israel has left is Mark Levin.

Now, this is relevant because just yesterday, Levin was in Trump's ear or it was reported. It could have happened a different day, but it was reported yesterday that Levin was in Trump's ear trying to convince him for strikes on Iran.

Now, Trump's response was, we've got negotiations coming up. Let's try the diplomatic approach. Let's try the peace approach. And we don't want the United States involved in these strikes. Now, Trump did campaign, if Israel wants to strike Iran, then they're going to strike Iran. But he also said, and he said multiple times since he's become president, that

that the U.S. will not be involved. Now, Marco Rubio just issued a statement basically echoing the same thing, that the United States is not involved in these strikes and will not be involved in any further interventions. Now, we'll see what happens when Trump makes his statements. I think he's anticipated to speak tonight. We shall see. But here's something that's interesting. Netanyahu was speaking tonight as the strikes were happening, and he was speaking in English.

Now, tell me why Netanyahu is speaking in English, because his message is to the English speaking world. He's not even talking to his people, folks. He's talking to the English speaking world. He thinks he's our president and he thinks that he has to talk to us to support Israel's war.

That is a pretty important detail that he would make his speech while the strikes are going on in English, directed at the English speaking world, the world in which he has no political power, supposedly. He also threatened that if Israel fails, the entire world will go down. Well, what is that? What kind of a threat is that? Does that mean they're going to pull the Samson option and just blow up the entire planet?

Does that mean Netanyahu is going to do what we wish Pam Bondi would do and release the Epstein files? I don't know what that means. I wonder who will question him on that. But so here we are. How will the world respond? Now, the truth is Israel in the culture, in the political world, in the political culture has lost a lot of favor since October 7th. And you say, well, that's kind of counterintuitive. Well, it might be, except what they've done in the Gaza Strip.

Now, let's think about the logic applied to what Israel has done in the Gaza Strip. It's self-defense. Okay? So Israel is allowed to level the Gaza Strip and claim it's self-defense because they were attacked. Well, Iran, as you said, we didn't start it. So if Iran attacks Israel, let's say turns an entire city in Israel into rubble like Israel did in the Gaza Strip, will that same logic apply?

Can Iran say, hey, we're self-defense. You guys struck first. Do you think that same logic would apply? Do you think Israel would accept that same logic that they've applied? Do you think all the major proponents of Israel and supporter of Israel and Israel firsters in America, do you think they would apply the same logic that they applied to the Gaza Strip? Well, maybe we'll find out. I hope not. For the sake of Israel and the world, I hope not.

But somehow I doubt it. Somehow I doubt if Iran retaliates and strikes Israel, they'll be able to say, hey, we're just defending ourselves like you did in the Gaza Strip. Somehow I doubt that that's how this is going to go. But I think it goes back to the same thing for America. And I think we're already seeing it, folks. We're done in the Middle East. And I wonder now, now that Trump has been undermined by Netanyahu, officially, he's

On the eve of his negotiations and his attempt at a diplomatic solution with Iran, Netanyahu destroys it by attacking Iran first. So now what is the future of U.S.-Israel relations? What is the future of Trump-Netanyahu relations? A lot of things are at stake because of this strike. Let's hope that it's encapsulated and doesn't get worse soon.

But everybody kind of feels like, I don't think that's going to be the case. And what's crazy is I'm watching all these people celebrating. First of all, anybody that celebrates war or military action, especially if you're not in the military, there's something wrong with you. There's something deeply disturbing and wrong with you to celebrate that. Because you wouldn't be celebrating it if it was happening to you, your country, or your family. Okay? Okay?

So I'm watching all these people celebrating. Iran has been struck. Iran is on fire. Pray for Israel. What? So it's very disturbing stuff. I just want to make America great again. I don't want to be involved in these entanglements anymore. I hope that President Trump goes back to the President Trump of the late 90s, early 2000s and his first presidential campaign and realizes that Netanyahu is a liar.

And really, the two people, probably more than anyone that are keeping the world from finding world peace, is Benjamin Netanyahu and Vladimir Zelensky. Now, there's all kinds of people that profit off of these warmongers. That's why we send billions of dollars to Israel annually and billions of dollars to Ukraine in recent history. So people profit from this. People get power from this. But I want to make America great again.

And being involved in foreign conflicts and being involved in foreign countries' geopolitical issues is not going to make America great again. Now, what do you see on X? You see everybody debating Iran and Israel, Iran and Israel. We should be talking about trade deals. We should be talking about stopping the riots that are coming up on our streets this weekend. We should be talking about arresting the criminals that engage in all the waste, fraud and abuse.

with government taxpayer money. We should be talking about the deep state criminals that framed Donald Trump, tried to kill Donald Trump. We should be talking about the organizers and funders of the left-wing terrorism that we have to deal with in our country. We should be addressing the wars on our streets where every year hundreds of innocent people get shot and killed in American cities, our decaying infrastructure, our national debt. I can go on and on, but no.

Once again, we're all talking about a foreign country and a foreign conflict. I hope this is a point of no return for America, and we finally say we're done. We're out. We tried to do peace. We tried to get along. But you're not interested, so we're out. Because if that's not the attitude going forward, it's not looking good. And the MAGA movement now hangs in the balance.

There you go. That was Owen Schroyer with his thoughts and opinions on this. And I think a lot of people feel the same way he does. Schroyer, what do you feel about what he says? Thank you, because I did write some bullet points that I want to go over and I'll go forward backwards. First of all, I get America first and we should put America first. But we have to remember that Israel is our strong ally in the Middle East.

And we have to protect them just like they would protect us. I'm not saying send troops over there and start a war and make it bigger than what it should be. I think it could be settled with a negotiation. And I think that Trump would be perfect for that. Although Putin is stepping in, supposedly, and he's going to be doing the negotiations now to try to stop this war. Yeah. And you heard her right. You heard her right. Putin. Yeah. Putin is going to negotiate this stuff. Yeah.

I also wanted to say, too, with his point, he's right. This is more of a civil war than it is a international war. This has been a war going on for 400 years between the Middle East. And we probably shouldn't have our hand in it. But the only reason I say we have to protect Israel is because they are our little brother. They are our ally. And as far as Iran getting involved...

He's telling a lie right there because Iran's been involved since the October 7th strike. They have been a proxy war with Hamas, Hbalis, the Houthis, or Houthis, the Houthis.

They have been giving them money in order to strike Israel. So they have been in this war since the very beginning. And guess how Iran got all that money? Obama. Obama before he went out or was it Biden? It was Obama. Well,

It was both gave them all this money and made them extra, extra rich. And now they're giving money to their proxy people to strike Israel because ultimately Iran hates Israel. So that is a lie because they've been in it since the beginning. Another thing I wanted to point out is talking about a war between Israel and Iran when he was talking about it.

We have to remember Iran's military is very weak. We have not even seen any airstrikes. They don't have the capabilities. And my last point I want to make is it is very profitable to be in war. That's why there is wars going around the world is because we have what's called the military complex and they make money. And in order for any civilization or any countries to survive, they have to have war because that's how they make money. Yeah.

All right. Well, here's my response with Owen Troyer and to you as well. Sherry is number one. Yes. Israel has been an ally to the United States for quite some time.

But also at the same time, when the president of the United States and a huge funder, I mean, U.S. taxpayer dollars, the amount of money that goes to Israel from our taxpayer dollars, the money that you guys work for on a daily basis, the amount of that money that goes to Israel to support Israel, to make sure their Iron Dome is functioning, to make sure they have weapons, to make sure that when

This shit happens when Trump says, hey, don't attack Iran because we have negotiations coming up and we do want a peace deal in this region. So you should not attack Iran. And then when they just basically say, well, we're going to do it anyway against your wishes. And then so therefore we have to send our ships over to now help them defend themselves from the retaliatory attacks that Iran obviously is going to do.

I mean, Iran is the one that was attacked in this particular case. Now, let's just go back for a minute about the the proxies, the Houthis, Hamas and Hezbollah. Now, according to mainstream media,

These are supposedly the proxies, the Iran funds to attack Israel. We don't know for sure that. I mean, we don't know absolutely how much money the Iran's actually given the Houthis, Hamas or Hezbollah. We have no idea about that. That's what mainstream media is saying. That's how they're trying to tie Iran into this entire thing. We don't know that for absolute certainty that Iran is backing all this and coordinating these attacks with the, you know, with the Hezbollah and Hamas and Houthis. We don't know that.

But also at the same time, you have to understand that whatever happened on October 7th, which was a lot of people died in Israel because of the Hamas attack.

We know that there was a massively disproportionate response on behalf of Israel. Now, you can validate that if you're on the side of Israel by saying, hey, you know what? You shouldn't, you know, F around and find out. Right. And that's going to be the result. The United States has done this in many cases. I mean, think about 9-11 and think about what happened in Iraq and in Afghanistan. I was talking to Chris about this today.

And I asked Chris, I said, how many cities did you see completely obliterated? Like in when you went to Iraq or you went to Afghanistan? He said, well, you know, cities were definitely screwed up. It was obviously not like you see in the Gaza Strip.

to where the Gaza Strip is non-existent anymore. And, you know, Israel did, regardless of what anybody wants to say, Israel did literally blow up everything in the Gaza Strip. There are videos also of when they would drop or whoever would drop the supply drops to where the people that were desperate for food or water or whatever, guess what? A lot of these supply drops got bombed.

And these were obviously civilians, even though they said, oh, well, we think it was Hamas that was supplying food or whatever, or the civilians were bringing food back to Hamas, whatever.

And then even when a lot of the people from the Gaza Strip was trying to flee the Gaza Strip to get into safe encampments, some of those encampments were bombed. Some of the migration of the people trying to get to safe zones outside of the Gaza Strip were bombed. We've seen multiple cases of videos where Israeli soldiers shoot civilians in the streets. I mean, this does happen. So

And also the problem with this is, is that you've got to look at Israel's government, the government, Benjamin Netanyahu. He's under all of these charges. We don't know how valid they are. Cherry made a good point. You know, Trump was under 34 felony accounts. You know, they were trying to target him and get him out.

But the difference is, is that the people of Israel do not like Benjamin Netanyahu. They want him the hell out of there. He has the lowest approval rating. So to compare Benjamin Netanyahu to Trump is almost, in my opinion, like comparing Joe Biden and his presidency to Trump. It's not the same thing.

Joe Biden, most people did not like him, regardless of what it was. The world burning, all the shit that was on. I mean, he could not even speak a full sentence. And yet he was a sitting president of the United States. And so at that faction, people did not want him as the president. They didn't feel safe.

when Joe Biden was the president. I think the world didn't really feel safe when Joe Biden was the president. So I don't think you can compare Benjamin Netanyahu to Trump, especially with the charges, and especially considering that it seems like Benjamin Netanyahu is a dictator. He's been there forever. People want him out. He was coming under fire and all these charges. And then all of a sudden, October 7th happened. We go back to the Jerusalem Post, which is one of the most well-respected

news organizations in all of Israel. The Jerusalem Post is not against Israel. It's not against the government. And it's not even like a CNN thing. But they had a report that ran that talked about that the Israeli government knew about the October 7th attacks

were to happen a year before they ever happened. And they knew for sure the date of when the attacks were going to happen up to a month before it happened. And yet even the music festival, from what I've read, is that the music festival is supposed to happen some 40 miles inside of Israel, you know, inside of Israel's borders. And it was like a week or two before the attacks happened. They decided to move this music festival within two miles of the border. And

And so they move the music festival up to the border. And then these people were coming over in paramotors and going through the streets of, you know, these various villages in Israel and just killing the shit out of people. And the military didn't even respond or no one responded for hours and hours to just let this thing go on. So,

There's a lot to say here, because like if October 7th happened authentically and the government didn't know about it and they weren't maybe turning a blind eye on purpose, then, yeah, Israel, you would be like, damn it. You know, you get attacked. Eleven, twelve hundred people die here.

you know, you, you gotta do something. And I think you still have to do something, but I don't think doing something means killing everybody in the Gaza strip. I don't think it means killing innocent men, women, and children and kids. I mean, the videos I've seen that have come out of God's strip are devastating. And so, and I agree with Owen on that as like, where the people celebrating, Oh yeah, we've attacked Iran or vice versa. Or yeah, Israel's, you know, fucking up Gaza, uh,

And then you see these videos of these horrific scenes coming out of this place. Like, what if it happened to your country? What if it happened to you right now on your street, in your neighborhood, in your town? What if your kids and your family's kids and your friends' kids had their legs blown off and were completely decapitated from bombs and airstrikes when you had nothing to do with any of this shit?

That is the problem. The problem is, is, is that we, for some reason, want to take sides when it comes to government and military. And I go back to the military parade we just saw in the streets in Washington, D.C. What was that yesterday? It was last night, right? When that happened, Sherry? Mm hmm.

So that was the 14th. And, you know, it's patriotic to see tanks and soldiers in our history in the streets and our army and all that shit. But the one thing I do know is that when I see all these soldiers going down the street and marching down the street and some of them are on camera, they're talking in the microphone. They're saying why they signed up for the military. They're saying why they love our country, why they love the military.

Those are the people I don't want to die because of Israel. Yeah, I agree. I don't want them to die because of Iran. I don't want them to die because of bullshit corrupted politicians that are in office, whether it's here or in Israel. I agree. I want to protect our people over anything. Our soldiers is the most important freaking thing that we have. It is to protect our country. And we do not need to get involved in this stupid bullshit over here for whatever reason, however that happened. They've been fighting for years. Mm-hmm.

And it's not just over 400 years. It's not just been, it's not like Gaza has been the one that Palestinians that should have been constantly attacking Israel. No, Israel has bombed the shit out of Gaza.

Multiple times. It happens almost like every few years. But just to make myself clear, I never said I wanted troops over there. Yeah, I know. I get that. To engage in this war. If anything, I think the best thing, if we were to send troops, it would be in like safe regions, I guess. Like maybe in Israel or, you know, where we already have military bases there.

For standby in case something goes wrong where we... Because to me, I trust Israel more than I do Iran. I just have to say that. I don't. I don't trust Iran for a minute. I don't trust either. Just because...

I know because of your stance and because of the history in our history with the Middle East, why we went to the Middle East. I get that you think it was all bullshit and not necessary. No, I'm not saying I think it's all bullshit. I don't. But personally, no.

I mean, look, the Iranian government, if you just read history and you and even what we talked about earlier, where they basically brought in this dictatorship regime in the late 70s, early 80s to where they're torturing people and doing all this shit and they're making women cover up and they're throwing gays and lesbians off the balconies and or doing stone and women because they didn't do a certain thing or maybe they didn't wear their headdress right. Or I mean, they do this shit in Iran. They do this shit in a lot of Muslim countries. I don't trust.

them. And I don't really and I'm saying it's not the Iranian people that I don't trust. It's the government. And it's the same thing with you, how you don't trust the Israeli government. No, it's not the people. It's the governments. And how do we safely stop this? And I guess what you you know, I agree with you. I want everyone to come to the table and have peace talks.

and stop this madness all around the world, including Ukraine and Russia. Like this needs to all stop. But when you think about what's going on, you have to think about the people that are profiting from this as well. Well, of course. But I mean, but that's what I'm saying. It's not just a profiting thing for Israel either. It's to keep Benjamin Netanyahu in control and power because he knows that

Without a war, he has no power, no control and no leverage over this country. And he's gone. He ceased to exist without a war. He is done in Israel without a war unless he goes full on dictatorship. So you're saying that he's fear mongering the people right now. Of course, the people know that. Saying that, you know, we have to stop.

Iran from building these nuclear weapons. Cause that he has two missions right now. His first mission is to stop the building of the nuclear weapons. And the second mission is to get rid of this, a regime that's in place to,

To to help not only the people of Iran, but people around the world, because the people in Iran, I feel like are suppressed. Well, of course they are. But so are the people in, I mean, many countries around the world. It's not just in Iran. I mean, I feel bad for the people, the Iranians in Iran. You know, Patrick, but David, I think he's from Iran, if I'm not mistaken. He lived there for a very long time.

And, you know, I've met a lot of Iranians and they're great people. Sam sent me a video today where there's a YouTuber that went to Iran and just kind of to see like as an American or whatever. And there's been many people do that. But when you go to these places and there are definitely Middle Eastern countries, if you go as an American, they do not really like you that much. But.

If you go to Iran and you see the people there, man, people are loving, they're caring. They want to talk to you. They want to be nice to you. These are people that, you know, right now Israel maybe wants to get rid of or... No, they have made a point to say that's not their mission at this point. As of right now. Their mission is to get rid of the threat. Right.

of the nuclear weapons. They are not targeting civilians, but in the same sense, Iran is targeting civilians in Israel. Okay. So let me ask you this. So if Palestine, right, or if Gaza, and if I know, I know, I know, but I'm saying,

about Iran. I understand you're not talking about that. But if Gaza and if the leadership did something like October 7th, it's one of those things. It's like, well, we are the people. We don't represent our government, especially in places like Gaza to where Hamas, they always the mainstream media has told you, oh, all the people voted for what they got.

So they deserve what they got. Bullshit. So so now all of a sudden Hamas is some type of some type of democracy, a constitutional republic or some shit. No, I agree with you. I don't think the bloodshed should be like it is in the Gaza Strip. I don't feel like that is necessary. It's hard when you have leaders hiding things.

the civilians there and it's hard to get to them. And that's what Israel has used as their excuse of killing civilians is because they will put their armory in a school building or underneath a hospital. And they have all, I mean, we've seen the tunnels on TV. They have

all these massive tunnels and huge systems of almost like a civilization beyond, you know, below ground. Okay. So, so what, so my question was, is that if Hamas killed 50 to 60,000 Jews in Israel, would the Jews call it a Holocaust again? Only because it happened in Israel. But if it happens in Palestine or Gaza, then that's just collateral damage. See that that's the problem. That's what,

I'm going to say his name wrong. Netanyahu is trying to prevent is another Holocaust. That's I just I don't believe that because what to me, what I think Israel just did in Palestine is whatever you want to call the Palestinian version of a Holocaust. I mean, and that's that's the problem. But I think in Israel, Israel is not hiding above their civilians. They're not putting all of their weaponry in civilian housing.

You know, they're not fighting the war fair. But Sherry...

You have to understand that Israel knows that when they attacked Iran, Iran is going to get through. There is going to be a constant ongoing battle and civilians will be killed in Israel. And if Iran gets some help, whether it's from Russia or another nation, or Iran sends people inside of Israel to do massive terror attacks because they have the capabilities of that. Israel knew when they attacked them that the chances of civilians dying inside of their country is high. That's what's going to happen because they don't care about

to stop the war. They want to continue the war for political gain and political control. Just Israel or Iran? Israel. What about Iran? Iran doesn't need political control. They control that damn country anyways. What was the weather report that you showed me earlier? Yeah, it showed the Iranian or sorry, Iranian military. It showed a hundred percent chance of missiles.

over the next six days. Okay. Which is kind of crazy. They're memeing the hell out of this war. And so they literally posted a meme of, you know how it has like Thursday, Friday, Saturday, instead of sun, it had missiles. I was like, God, I'm not. And you're laughing about it. No, I'm not. It's just, it was a meme. Yeah.

I mean, damn, Israel, Israel does the same shit. They both, which is crazy. The time we live in to where you have actual military accounts that are posting memes about the war that they're about to do or about to fight is insane to me. But it's good to talk about this because I think that a lot of people have varying opinions. And, you know, my opinion is not against the people of Israel. What I will say to the people of Israel is,

is that I understand that you want better from your government. And I think that's what the United States and pretty much every civilian around the world wants from their government is better. Unfortunately, some of us living around the world, whether you're in China or North Korea or some of these dictatorship authoritarian regimes, and you're under that, that is not the way God intended for us to live on this planet.

And, you know, I understand that the people of Israel are starting to wake up about Benjamin Netanyahu and the government. I understand that the Iranian people have known this forever. We actually the last podcast we did where we talked about Iran last.

And I didn't fully understand. And maybe I said things the wrong way on that show because I kind of projected like Israel or Iran is just all bad. And that's not what I was meaning. I was meaning the government, but I, we had quite a few people actually from Iran reach out to us and say, guys, this is not us. Like we love America. Like we don't hate Americans. We,

We want you to understand that like our government, we don't like our fucking government. Like we don't want the people in charge of our government. If we had an opportunity to have what you guys had or at least close to it, like we would do it. We just don't have an opportunity to do it. If we even dissent, we're going to be killed or executed. So there's no way we can do that. And they also said a few of these Iranians, there were two in particular. Remember, I'll never forget the emails.

They said, just so you guys understand that the same thing is the case in Gaza, where if people dissent against Hamas, they get executed. They get shot in the freaking face. So it's all bad. Yeah, but it's bad. But mainstream media wanted you to believe that all of the Gazan people, all of the Palestinians just supported this and whatever. I understand that there are there are people.

that cheer on the death and execution of Jews. I understand that. And I understand there are probably Iranians that also cheer on the death and execution of Jews or Americans or whatever. We always have factions of those people in our countries. Look at what's happening in the United States right now. I mean, if there were Americans that died...

in Israel, they would cheer that shit on and they would be doing it in LA streets or Chicago or on college campuses. We always have extremists in our countries, but that does not represent all people. Right. And you know what? I find the most heartening about extremism

Iran is the fact that there is over 1 million Christians that are making a huge surge, I guess, not resurges, but I guess a surge in Iran to where they are coming to Christ in Iran. And this is obviously a very pro-Islamic Muslim state. Although it sounds weird because most people think that Muslims are just completely don't either believe in Jesus or against Jesus. They're not.

They definitely believe differently than Christians. But what a lot of people in Iran are doing are going more towards the Christianity side about believing that Jesus is the son of God and he is the savior versus a lot of Muslims actually do believe Jesus is a savior and he is going to come back. They just don't necessarily believe that he's a son of God. They don't believe he's the most important prophet either. They think Muhammad is. And so,

But to find out that like they are, they are making this massive push towards Christianity. Right. Then I think that's cool. But what if they're making a massive push towards Jewish people? Would you feel the same way? Towards? Well, no, no, I wouldn't because I'm not Jewish. I know. But I'm just saying if they were pushing from Muslim to Jewish instead of Muslim to Christian, would you feel the same way that you do now? Because you do have a bias because you are Christian. Right.

Well, no, I don't have a bias because like whatever Jews do, I don't care. Right. If you don't believe in Jesus, I do care. I would rather Jews believe in Jesus Christ because I do believe in Jesus Christ.

And the interesting thing about it is, is that and I didn't even want to get in this, but we, I guess, have to now just a little bit, just briefly. Yeah, because you brought it up. OK, yes. And there also, by the way, are a lot of Jews that also believe in Jesus Christ. What are they called? Messianic Jews. Yes. They believe in Jesus Christ as well. And there's a lot more of those than most people think. Yeah, I know. But in Israel, you know, their their whole belief system is based around Jesus not being

a Messiah, right? So they don't believe in Jesus. They believe in their own thing. The interesting thing I've always thought about is that growing up my whole life, everybody says, well, you got to support Israel because you're Christian. Oh, you got to support Israel because you're Christian. The more I've talked with people, you know, on our telegram, especially James, James shout out and people that really know the Bible and kind of has helped me try to decipher what has that meant?

Like, why is it always been that Christians have to support Jews or have to support Israel because it is the chosen people? Well, it's the Holy Land. It's the Holy Land. But but in the Bible, supposedly where Jesus was. Well, yeah, it is. Well, I mean, in the Bible takes place, you know, Syria, Iran, you know, throughout the whole region. But yes, Israel.

the Holy land in Israel, but that, you know, in the Bible, it talks about the church is, is Jesus has chosen people. It is God chosen people. It's no longer, in my opinion, Jews. And the more you can get, I would have to bring James onto that and scholars that know the Bible. But the point of this is, is that obviously my thing is I would love more people to get, go to Jesus.

Yes, because you are biased. And that's what I was, that was my point that I was just trying to make. I don't think you would feel the same way if people were changing from Muslim to Jewish, then Muslim to Christian, because you are biased because that is what you believe. I guess my question has always been, especially now that I've been researching is like Israel and Jews are supposed to be our most closest and loyalist allies. But yet in, if you really think about it in terms of religions in the middle East, it's

Jews are kind of the furthest from Christians than even the people in the Middle East that do at least believe in Jesus as a, not necessarily Messiah, but as a savior that's going to come back. They do believe in Jesus a lot more than Jews do.

Even though they have different beliefs, but they want you to believe that you have to support Israel. Nobody else because Muslims are bad and Jews are great. They're God's chosen people. I don't believe that. The Muslim and the Christian Bible come from the Jewish Bible.

No, the Old Testament. The Old Testament. Yes. But the Old Testament is in both the Muslim and Christian religion. Yeah. But you know what's not in the Jewish religion is the New Testament. It's the New Testament. You're exactly right. So they were like, well, Jesus ain't nothing. We're not going to we're going to stop here and we're going to make sure that nothing that happened after that is ever going to get out.

And you can't say that the books of the New Testament were shit because they are. They are very valid books in the Bible. In my opinion, they are the most important books in the Bible. And I think also that there is more evidence for the New Testament than there is for the Old Testament. I agree with you, but I'm just saying that the portion of Christian Bible comes from the Jewish tradition.

Yeah. Period. I've never had a story. It's just like, you know, if you read the Old Testament like we did in our first biblical series and as we read through the Old Testament, I was like, who would want to be a Christian to read the Old Testament? Because it is very horrendous stuff.

Until you get into the New Testament and it's like Jesus comes, he's a savior. He's a holy man. He is someone that washes, you know, criminals feet. He is someone that takes on anyone that, you know, some of his most, his biggest disciples were some of the dirtiest and most corrupt people. Right. But it was because he brought them in. But I think the problem, in my opinion, with the world is that we often think

the way that the Old Testament may have presented in some cases rather than the New Testament. Because you're not Christian enough, bro. No, I'm just saying, I mean, but the story of Jesus and who Jesus and what he represents is that if people actually live that, and I'm not saying I live it every day for sure. I don't. I understand it. Well, nobody is because everybody's a sinner. Yes. If people followed the

Jesus and like the teachings of Jesus and what Jesus represented, regardless of whether you believe a wholeheartedly, the world would be a much better place. And I do often wonder a lot of people make the argument. Do you think that people will all come to know Jesus? I think, yes. I think in the end, I think they're going to have no choice.

And that's what we have to wait to see, you know, and I don't want to get on this argument of religion. I was just making a point that you are biased because you are a Christian, that you, you know, you love seeing Muslims changing into Christians. That was my whole point. And that's it. And I love seeing Jews changing to Christians, too. It's not just Muslims.

I love seeing anybody that I like. No, but you would not be as happy if Muslims changed into Jews. Oh my God.

Is my no, of course not. No, because I believe that the way to heaven and the way to eternal life is Jesus. So why would I ever want people to not believe in Jesus? All I'm saying is, you know, I don't I don't like to preach on here at all. I'm just telling you that that I'm very happy that Iranians are turning to Jesus. And I'm also very happy that there are there is a such thing as messianic Jews and

They believe in a lot of the same belief systems as, you know, Jewish traditional religion, with the exception of the sacrifice, the sacrificial stuff that Jews still do today because they don't have a savior. Right. They're still waiting on the savior. That's that's really. I agree. It goes back to a lot of the Jewish traditions is about a non-savior form. That's why they have to do so many things in their traditional religious beliefs or holidays. All I'm saying is, is that.

It's just it's just weird. It's just weird to me. We love all people regardless of their religious beliefs. Yeah, of course we do. I mean, yeah, absolutely. I mean, the thing about it is, is like I would not want to be the person to go to either country and be the representation of Jesus. You know what I mean? They're like they've like, yeah, well, we did have well until Chad came, we had one million Jews and now we're down to like one million Christians. Now we're down to one hundred and ten thousand.

No, no, no. But I think that we have to represent ourselves as peace and love as well, regardless of what religion people believe in. I, you know, whatever floats your boat, floats your boat. I am, you know, and I've told you guys this on many podcasts. This is why I I almost go against religion in everything.

totality, I guess, is because, you know, I love everyone and I want everyone to be peaceful and happy. And, you know, I don't know how that's going to work. Jesus was against religion, too. Yeah. And maybe I am more like Jesus than I am like anything. So I don't know. Yeah. Jesus was against religion. I mean, that's the thing. Jesus knew that religion was bad. Religion is actually what what crucified Jesus.

religion crucified Jesus. It was the fact that he went against the Jewish authority at the time is why he got crucified. He was offered up to the Romans. The Romans didn't even want to crucify him.

They at all. They were like, no, we don't want to crucify him here. We'll give you someone else crucify. And they're like, no, no, no, no, no. You need Jesus. We're definitely crucifying this guy. And here's why. Here's all the reasons. And it was because they knew they're waiting on a savior. Jesus and Jesus didn't even really say, even though when, when they ask him and he said, yeah, I am, I am him, you know?

And he refused to not say it. He knew he was going to be executed. He knew he was going to be crucified. He knew it. But everyone saw his workings and his miracles. And, you know, we've we've had episodes like the shrouded turn. I think you guys should go back and listen to that. Yeah, because I think that that's huge as far as the actual cloth that Jesus was potentially covered in. I also think that our episode on the book of Enoch series, which we got to do a second part to that as well.

All I'm saying is, is that this war in the Middle East is not the United States' war. Do you think it's a religious war?

I think it is. Only reason I'm saying that is because you have one country, Israel, that does not believe in Jesus. And you have, at the very least, Iran and some of them, they at least believe in Jesus. They don't believe in the same way. Could it be a civil war where they're fighting over land? Because that's also what's true. These people have been fighting over the same land for three and four hundred years. I don't know.

I don't know the exact date. Thousands of years, technically. Yeah, probably thousands. I mean, it's thousands of years. But even like 1934, when they made Israel their own state or whatever, it goes back to then. I don't think it was 30. Oh, it was. Yeah, it was sometime around then. But I'm just saying, could it be a civil war or is it a religious war? But in the reason why I ask you that, if it is a religious or a civil war, should America be a part of it? No. No.

But what I will say, and this is the last thing I'll say, there's going to be a lot to come out about this Israel-Iran conflict. We kind of wanted to just start here. Sam was going to come on tonight. She couldn't do an episode until like 8, and so we're about to finish a little after 8. I think we're going to bring Sam back on to talk more about this this week. We got a lot of stuff to cover this week. But what I will say...

Is that I think at the end of the day, you have to look at the circumstances of what is at play in the Middle East. You have Israel, you have Iran, you have various belief systems and you have Israel that is

you know, kind of says, look, you know, the United States should help us. You have to help us because that's the way it's always been. We've always made sure that you were our biggest ally. My thing is, is that I know that if you go back biblically and the amount of times, and this is just my thinking historically, right? I'm not saying anything bad against Israel. I'm just saying historically, right?

Israel has been destroyed and dominated time after time after time. And

And even back in biblical days, even in the Old Testament, where God would command Israel, the Israelites to do a certain thing, and they did not do what God commanded them to do, right? Whether it was in Canaan. And then there was multiple occasions after that, where it seemed like continually that the people disobeyed God, and they did not listen to that, and they continually got destroyed. Right?

And I've always wondered, like, why? Like, what was their thing that we're missing necessarily? And could it be Jesus? I don't know. But Israel is right now getting themselves involved again. Not not necessarily from the beginning, necessarily. I mean, you can go back historically and see who was at fault in the very beginning. That's that's a historical conversation, but.

But when you attack Iran and you start trying to pull that entire region, because you have to remember, Israel, that you are the lone person, the lone little country in that entire swath of the Middle East. If Iraq gets involved, if Syria gets involved, if Pakistan gets involved, if Iran ramps up their attacks, then there's no question that the United States is going to have to get involved, even though we shouldn't. But, you know, that's what likely we would do.

And Israel knows that Israel knows that they can push the edge. They can go beyond the edge of where they should be going because they know the United States is going to be there no matter what.

Because without the United States, Israel doesn't attack Iran. Without the United States, Israel probably would not have went as far as they did in Gaza. I understand regardless of how many people knew about the October 7th attacks to come. I understand regardless of that, you have to respond to that. But I just think everything would be different if Israel didn't know that the United States and the military industrial complex had their back fully on

This would be an entirely different conversation and likely Israel would not exist right now because Israel,

that entire middle East would know that Israel didn't have the United States as their big brother and to protect them because the iron dome is only the iron dome for so long. You can destroy those things. You can send in troops to Israel to destroy all of the battery sites. If you needed to, to destroy Israel. The only reason Israel is in my opinion, still around right now, especially after this whole thing is because of the United States. And they're also taking advantage of that. And I don't want them to do that, but,

It is what it is right now. It is eight o'clock. It is probably somewhere around two or three in the morning, I guess, in Israel. And so, uh,

What will Israel do now? Now, Iran, I don't think, is done with their retaliatory strikes. Oh, you saw the weather report. It said bomb, bomb, bomb. Yeah, I know. Iran's not done, but Israel is going to probably double down and they're going to start striking civilian centers, I believe. That's my opinion. And when they do.

You know, Iran is going to be sending everything they have. And depending on how far Israel goes in that attack towards Iran, who will get involved on behalf of Iran? Because Iran is a major player in the Middle East. They are a huge country. They have a lot of people there. And I don't think that that just everyone is going to let Iran fall. Yeah. And maybe Iran is attacking heavier and harder because they do have Russia and China. Yeah.

On their back now. Well, I'm telling you, some of these missiles are allies. Some of these missiles I've seen have been wild. You guys should go look at some of these missile attacks. Some of these missiles look like and I was talking to my brother. He was in the military for a long time. And, you know, some of these missiles look like they're hanging out in the sky.

And then they come down all of a sudden and just, I mean, blast whatever they hit. And John's like, you're just looking at it because it's a trajectory thing. Like it's coming at a certain angle and it's probably going as fast as it is as it comes down. But then all of a sudden it makes a hard break.

you know, South into the, where, whatever the target region is. But the interesting thing about it is that some of these missiles, like the missile that strike, uh, or that struck the oil refinery and then the port from Iran, those were hypersonic missiles. When you look at that video, you can, you just see a, like barely a street come across the camera of light. And then as a huge explosion, uh,

I did not think number one, Iran has hypersonic ballistic technology. And I still don't think they do. So are they getting weapons already from China or Russia? That's what we don't know. And if we find out they are,

What's the United States going to say? Oh, are you proxying Israel with weapons? Oh, you're not allowed to do that. I mean, we're allowed to do it from like we're allowed to support Israel and Ukraine and basically anyone. But you are not allowed to do anything and you are not allowed to do anything. We can't be in some cases. Iran was proxying the other wars.

And they probably were. Supposedly. I mean, they probably well, they probably were. But, you know, also at the same time, you had the entire Gaza Strip completely being wiped out. So for Iran, they're probably thinking we got to stop Israel before they make it to us, which inevitably is happening anyway. So, you know, is it bad that Iran was supplying Hezbollah and Houthis as a defense measure? Just like Iran.

I mean, we're looking at this. That's what I'm saying. We always look at this for May. We should look at this, too. If October 7th would have never happened, none of this would be happening right now. You're exactly right. And so I understand that. But also, it's not just about October 7th. It's all of the various conflicts over the years between Israel and between Gaza and Palestinians. But I'm just saying in the last five years, if they would not have done that, and I still don't understand why.

why they would do that. Like, why would you do that? I just, I don't get it. Well, it is weird because I mean, it was almost like they knew that they were going to be destroyed. So like, you know, isn't it strange how like something seems so random and weird. It's like you just, you know, you paraglide into a concert music festival. There's no police or military that shows up for six to eight hours and you can just walk through streets of Israel and

I mean, you know, one of the most protected countries in the world that has such thing as the Iron Dome that you can't get shit in. But yet Hamas was able to walk through the streets for six hours just shooting people, blowing shit up.

doing whatever they want to do. And then, you know, going back across the border. Hey, see you guys. Peace out. Well, and if you want to get more graphic, you could see some of the girls like the back of their pants. They're full of blood. And it was. Yeah, let's let's not. Yeah, let's not get in. I mean, that's that's bad. It is bad. But either way. And you can look up like open stoves, ovens. Well, I've never seen that. I've never seen that. I have not ever seen that. No one's ever seen that, Sherry. They've all said that. I've never seen that.

I mean, I'm not saying that they were not horrific how they did the shit. I'm just saying there's never once been a video girls with blood. I know the backs of their pants. I know. I know. But I'm just saying a lot of the stuff where they were like, yeah, they were putting babies in the ovens. We've never, ever seen a video about that. We've never seen a picture of that.

I think a lot of that was propaganda. They wanted to make it look as horrific as possible. I don't think that. Well, I mean, if it was real, we would have seen it in social media today. We don't see graphic. Well, we do on X. You see everything. OK, well, I mean, well, look at Palestine and Gaza, Hamas. I mean, you know, when kids heads are blown off and their freaking legs and they were dismembered and they were everywhere. We saw videos of that everywhere. Yeah.

But when we've never once seen a baby in an oven, we've never once seen the shit that they're talking about. Now, we've seen horrific stuff like the music festival where people were just shot dead everywhere. We saw videos of Hamas tracking people down. They were trying to escape. They were trying to get behind trucks and stuff. And they were being shot. They were being hunted down by these Hamas guys everywhere.

But literally, this was the catalyst of this whole thing. I know. I understand that. And like I said, I look, you can't not respond. And I think we've talked about all the very end things that might have

to this, right? I'm not against at all the Jewish people. I love the Jewish people as much as I love any people. You better. Well, I do, but I am against the corruption in the Israeli government. We've been against the corruption in the United States government for years, which is part of the reason why we started this podcast.

And if we can't call out another country's government that we are funding by our taxpayer dollars, but we are allowed to call it our own government, then that's a problem. No, I think I've done a good job just discussing the issues with you. Yeah, I know you have. Yeah, I get it. And but I'm just saying in the world today, you're not allowed technically to.

to call out Israel. You're not allowed to do that. But why are you not allowed? We're allowed to do it in the United States. We're allowed to call out the UK government. We're allowed to call out Russia. We're allowed to call it China. But the only people you're not allowed to call out is Israel.

And that changes today. It changes. It has changed months ago. People are doing it. People are understanding that, look, just because you're Israel doesn't mean that you can't be corrupt in certain areas of government. And I think that's what we're trying to say here. This is not a black and white issue. This is not something that is just all everybody else's fault besides Israel. This is not to say that Israel's government really just cares about the sovereignty and the protection of their people. There's a lot more involved to this. And I really hope that Trump

takes a stand. I don't, you know, it's going to be interesting to see what Trump does. Well, right now, Putin is involved. So and he's taking a step away. Which is weird.

Which is strange. Yeah. Putin is probably in this proxy war, uh, in some kind of rate or another. I'm sure he's supplying weapons to Iran. I see. I don't, I doubt that because if, if that was happening, man, it would be all over the news. Mainstream media would be covering that like white on rice. And, and that's what I'm saying. I literally saw today they had the summit today in Canada. I guess this may be the next few days. And they're saying that, um,

Putin is going to be negotiating the peace deal between Iran and Israel. Why is that? It doesn't even make sense why that would happen. And I mean, is that because Trump's not capable of actually negotiating a peace deal because we're so on the side of Israel?

That, you know, it's, it's, that's just not going to happen because maybe Trump comes to the table and says, well, basically everything is for Israel and nothing's for you. Yeah. But Putin's going to do that with Iran. Nah, I don't think so. Because actually the interesting thing, if you look into Putin and his, um, uh, first of all, the Jewish community in Russia, uh,

They don't not like Israel. They don't not like Jews at all. Like they actually have a pretty I'm pretty sure they have a pretty big community of Jews in in Russia. And they also support Iran as much as you would support Iran. Right. So maybe that's why they're doing it. I think maybe Trump just can't. Wasn't it Iran that just attacked Russia like six months ago? And no, no, that wasn't Iran. It was ISIS. Yeah. To some degree, some type of Middle Eastern ISIS.

And who the hell knows who that really was? I mean, was that some kind of funded...

CIA, Mossad group. We don't know. We do not know. But guys, that's going to be it. We've got a lot to talk about this week. We're kind of backed up. We've not been around for a few days, but everything is kind of blown up. We're going to try to get to as much stuff as we possibly can. And I'm sure that this Iran and Israel thing is going to heat up rapidly. So make sure you stay tuned for that. And we're going to play you out with a song. We started with Boom by Humble B and Nick

instead of Nick Cannon. We don't usually play hip hop, but we're doing it this time. So yeah, I'm glad we are. I'm not sure if it's a war, but we have to be diverse. Yeah, whatever. Yeah. So this is our D song of the evening. We'll talk to you guys next time. Love you. Peace out. Peace out, guys. Hey, cut to the chase. Everyone give me some space. Every step walking with grace. Amen. Keeping my foot up. Get up and finally it's boom, boom, boom. Baby, I'm trying to get paid.

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