Palantir, Trump, and the Rise of Mass Surveillance in America
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Hello and welcome back to Investigator Earth Podcast. I'm your host Chad alongside my beautiful wife Sherry. On tonight's episode we're talking about Palantir. Founded in 2003 by Peter Till, Alex Karp and others, Palantir initially powered intelligence and defense data analytics, tools that later found footing in corporations and public health. Now fast forward to 2025.

Trump administration has quietly tapped Palantir for a massive interagency data sharing system under a March executive order. And that includes a recent expansion of his immigration OS platform, some $30 million to ICE for near real-time deportation tracking and broader government access to sensitive personal data. Now critics warn that this could pave the way for deep state mass surveillance,

granting Trump era and other officials unprecedented reach over American data streams. With ethics watchdogs flagging conflicts, especially around figures like Stephen Miller, who reportedly holds Palantir stock, it raises a chilling question, are we sliding towards a domestic surveillance state?

Guys, welcome to the show. It is June the 25th, 2025. And I do think this episode is going to come out tonight. We were going to do this last night, but we are trying to prep some episodes before we go on vacation, which will likely be this weekend. And so far, we have done a horrible job at prepping episodes.

I am not going to lie. Yeah. Well, when it's 90 degrees in your studio, it's kind of hard to prep yourself. No, it is. Yeah. So it's been insanely hot here. I think it's been like 100 degrees for the past two or three days. And our air condition is upstairs is not doing the job, especially in our studio. It's literally been 85 degrees in the studio. So we have to wait till late. We actually did get some thunderstorms today. Thank God.

And so we actually went and stood out in the rain. And so now I'm actually still wet. My shirt's wet, but it feels good. We got the fan on. So if you do hear a little bit of background noise, it's because we have to survive. We don't want to heat stroke.

But anyway, so we're going to be talking about Palantir. And for those that don't know what Palantir is, we're going to explain all of that to you. Why is it important? We've had so many people that have reached out to us and said, hey, when are you guys going to do an episode on Palantir? Now, I don't know if any of you remember back after 9-11 where we had this mass surveillance state attack.

by way of the Patriot Act. Right. And we'll get into what the Patriot Act actually is and what it really means and if it actually is still around. But after 2001, you know, I guess the government, everybody was on board with, hey, let's figure out a way to make sure that we can figure out who the terrorists are in our country. So we have to, you know, essentially grant mass surveillance to

to every single person that lives in the United States. And everyone was on board with that because they were like, yes, we can finally be safe. The government's going to protect us. They're going to do all these things for us. And that was not actually what they used it for, which if you've heard the words of Edward Snowden and Julian Assange and so many others,

to where how the government actually really surveils us on a mass scale. And now as AI is kind of making way for new technology, for new ways of law enforcement, government surveillance, Palantir is right at the center of this. It is a very scary thing.

I've also been critical of President Trump when he came out with this press conference with OpenAI, found Sam Altman, also Larry Ellison with Oracle. And then you have Palantir and especially these L.A. riots where the immigration riots against ICE. Palantir was actually used real time to be able to track who was illegal, who is not.

And so we're talking about actual facial recognition. And we don't 100% know how they're doing some of this. But some people have even speculated maybe they're actually using advanced spy satellites to be able to facially recognize people on the streets in Los Angeles or Seattle or wherever it is.

Put that through an AI database or a Palantir system, and then it automatically recognizes that person as, hey, are they U.S. citizens? Are they not? All these facial features. And I'll be honest with you, like I have a, you know, I have an iPhone. And so I have the facial recognition on there, which I should not do, especially doing this podcast. But I do have the facial recognition. And I'm telling you, I can even cover almost all of my face. And

And if it can see my eyes or certain aspects of my face, it automatically unlocks. Oh, not mine. Oh, mine does. Like, listen, I can even just put glasses on and it'll make me put my passcode in. Yeah, that's weird. Yeah, it does not do that to me. Yeah, I can have sunglasses on. Really? Yeah, I can do all kinds of stuff. Hat on, hat off.

Uh, I've even covered like the bottom portion of my face and it's just showing my eyes and it will still open my phone up. So it's either scanning your eyes, it's scanning certain features of your face. It has some type of facial recognition, which is what Palantir and other companies are going to be able to utilize for this exact system we're talking about.

So just to give you a little background of what Palantir is, it was founded in 2003 by Peter Till. He is the PayPal co-founder alongside of Nathan Gettings, Joe Longsdale, Stephen Cohen, and Alex Karp. Alex Karp is now the CEO. It originally funded with backing from the NQTEL, the CIA's venture capital arm. And this is critical. Right from its inception, Palantir had deep ties to U.S. intelligence, especially the CIA.

Now, the company was named after the Palantiri, seeing stones from the Lord of the Rings used to see across vast distances and even into the minds of others, which is a really eerie metaphor for surveillance is essentially what they're saying here.

Now, Palantir builds advanced data analysis platforms that combine massive data sets to find patterns, track behaviors and predict actions. And their two main platforms are Gotham, which is built for intelligence, military law enforcement used by the CIA, FBI, ICE, NSA and the U.S. military. And then they have Foundry, which is a more commercial or enterprise focused, I guess, platform. It's used by companies like BP, Airbus, Merck, etc.,

And then you have major clients and contracts like the U S department of defense, the CIA, NSA, FBI, I centers for disease control, CDC, which, you know, Palantir did have some, uh,

work during COVID-19. They sure did. That was almost like a trial period to see how it was going to go is what I think. Yeah, absolutely. And then you have British NHS, which is COVID tracking. You had major banks and hedge hedge funds. And so they essentially helped also track Osama bin Laden, which they built predictive policing platforms and supported the COVID-19 response logistics. It works like spans of warfare, policing, finance and public health.

So this is really a souped up version of the Patriot Act. And many people had issues with the Patriot Act. But here are some of the ways that this is really kind of conspiratorial or controversial. Number one, let's talk about the surveillance infrastructure of the deep state. Now, Palantir is basically building a digital nervous system of the national security state.

And so it's software integrates, I guess, facial recognition, license plate readers, social media, scraping financial transactions, and even government records into one interface. And then law enforcement and intelligence agencies can track individuals in real time, predict threats based on behavior patterns and build network maps of associations. So, uh,

As you hear Palantir, it sounds like something that you would see in some dystopian movie. It sounds like the things that we've always been warned about, like communist China. Look at their surveillance state in communist China. Think about also in the UK where they have those camera systems up and I cannot remember exactly what they're called, but there are these black poles that sit probably about 10 to 14 feet high and

And people in the UK will climb these poles and literally saw off the camera systems just because they are obviously going against a surveillance state. I think most people do not want a mass surveillance state in their country because

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Unless you could absolutely trust your government for it to be used for good. Well, and I see these cameras all around the highways, their expressways or whatever you want to call them. You see these cameras up everywhere now on them. And obviously they're probably a license plate reader. I just wonder, has anyone got a ticket from this? Not actually being stalked.

Stopped by the police, but just like a ticket like sent in the mail. Oh, absolutely. Yeah, that happens all the time. I mean, for sure. I mean, and especially in places like New York City, some of these bigger cities and especially the Democrat led cities. These are the areas where they really utilize this traffic cams or these traffic license plate readers to where if you run a red light or you do some type of infraction, you

infraction, it will absolutely send you a ticket in the mail. So that is kind of like one of the first steps for surveillance on a mass level. And now that they are able to utilize AI, it's just going to be even more advanced. Oh, it is. And to me, it kind of reminds me of what it would be like if this was in full effect, what

What would New World Order look like? Yeah. When there are systems in place that are monitoring everything from your health care, Social Security, IRS, everything. Yeah. You just imagine if they have all of that and they put you in all these databases and they can just.

you know, tap a little button and say, okay, we're going to look for all these people in this category. And it pulls you up. Yeah. Like, oh, well, let's, let's figure out how we can completely screw all the conservatives or all the Democrats, or maybe the libertarians, the people that don't really like government, or maybe we just want to go after dissenting voices. If someone doesn't like us or they're speaking out about us on social media as this new dictatorship, authoritarian government, then we have a way now to completely single out every single one of those people and

And I actually think during January 6th, you know, the January 6th riots or the insurrection, as the left calls it. Now, the FBI knew pretty much every single person that came outside of D.C. that during January 6th.

They knew where they were, where they were staying. They likely knew who they were, their backgrounds, their history, everything. The FBI knew all of that. And you can't tell me that they did not use a system like Palantir because that's exactly what the system of Palantir is used for. It does remind me a little bit of Nazi Germany because we've talked about how Hitler and IBM started. IBM actually started because the Nazi Hitler regime started.

came to a company such as IBM. This is where this whole thing started. IBM figured out a way for them, for Hitler and the Nazi regime to identify all Jews. It just was up to, I guess, Hitler and his administration or his, um,

I guess regime. It was up to them to try to figure out how to make sure everyone participated in this thing. Right. And so they were able to do this, but IBM did create the system to make it easier for Hitler to identify all the Jews. Yeah.

And I just wonder in China, too, or even North Korea, we know they have some kind of system like this. Is it AI? Have they had AI a lot longer than we have? Or is AI like going around the world at the same pace? Or what kind of system does China or North Korea have? Because that is a surveillance system.

type country as well. Both of them are. Yeah. Well, they're, you know, according to U.S. officials, according to mainstream media, they say the United States is far more advanced in artificial intelligence than even China or especially North Korea. I don't think North Korea is that far advanced at all. But I do know that, you know, when the mainstream media says, oh, China is nowhere close to us as artificial intelligence, that's bullshit because they're

That is what China does. China is amazing at artificial intelligence. They're amazing at technology. Actually, a lot of how we use technology today and the things that we utilize, such as computers and phones and cars and chips and in cobalts and everything comes from China. And so China is definitely amazing.

in my opinion, more advanced technologically than we are. And especially even if you think of like drone warfare, as we are seeing warfare on the ground, such as in places like Iran or Ukraine or Israel, uh,

When we see these wars happening where wars are taking on a whole new meaning, you don't necessarily in a lot of ways have to send as many soldiers out onto the battlefield because now you have drones. Well, we know for sure that China is really advanced in their drone capabilities. I mean, we see some of the most fascinating light shows or what you would consider, I guess, drone shows in China. That is insane. And it blows people's minds, especially during like the Chinese New Year and whatever.

some of their other, I guess, celebratory events. China just blows your mind with that stuff. And it's not just that. I mean, obviously you're thinking, OK, well, they can do lights. Well, trust me, if they can do the amazing light shows and drone shows like that, they absolutely have drone swarms. I've seen videos of these.

China has capabilities the same way that you would see this massive drone light show of a Chinese New Year. They have capabilities where they could send up 10,000 drones, which could be swarm drones that all have some type of explosive devices, heat seeking technology, laser guided technology, whatever.

All of this stuff. And you're talking about 10,000 at one time. And guess who builds all these drones? Everybody guess who's building the drones that are in Ukraine right now. Guess who's building a lot of drones that United States use. You can go buy it best by DJI and some of these other companies, China. They are the ones that build this stuff. And so that's why at one point in time, I remember even Trump was like, I don't know that we should be.

selling dgi products in the united states because think about it these drones have cameras they have gps tracking they have all of this stuff and so um when you can fly drones up to a certain radius how much are they actually kind of mapping the united states of america and surveilling us i mean we can't just worry about our own government you're gonna think about other

Other governments doing the same thing. Yeah. And you know, so then the FAA came out with a thing to where you had to get a license to be able to fly drones commercially. Now, you can actually go still buy a drone and do the whole nine as long as you don't get paid for that job. But there are definitely specific rules to, you know, as far as getting them anywhere near military bases, airports, you know, so on and so forth.

But then you got to think about, you know, the technology and whatever was being done in New Jersey with the New Jersey drone incidents and a lot of our very critical infrastructure as far as our power. Also, as far as some of our fiber optic lines that go across the country connecting various systems.

I guess, technological infrastructure. A lot of that comes from the New Jersey and New York area, which is where we've seen a lot of this drone activity. So anyways, without getting too far into that, I do want to play this Patrick Bet David piece on Palantir because Patrick Bet David, I do like watching him. I think he's a very smart guy. I think he's also close to a billionaire.

But he does the PBD podcast and he actually had a really, really good piece on Palantir. And, you know, he's kind of in the mix with some of these people like Peter Till and right in all these. And for those who don't know, J.D. Vance's biggest backer was Peter Till. No, I did not know that. Yeah. So and that's when everybody was like, yeah, that's when everybody's like, wait, J.D. Vance is being backed by what usually was a far left Democrat. Yeah.

And this guy that is definitely big tech, definitely going for big surveillance. And now J.D. Vance is kind of backing this. Yeah. And it's just crazy. This could be one topic that.

Democrats and Republicans agree on. Well, they should, honestly, because I mean, there is absolutely people protesting, you know, the ice raids and all that. But what people should really start to wake up to see is like how the government is utilizing technology as of right now for the ice raids and

that could soon someday be used against you because you decide that you are not going along with something the government's doing. And then therefore they may turn that technology on you. And I'm sure they're probably already utilizing that in some ways, but let's listen to this piece from Patrick by David. I'm

How much do you know about the history of Alex Karp, the name, prior to that, when it started, the month after it got started, kind of weird. Some of the people involved, you know, how now it's a $300 billion company. Just a couple of years ago, it was a $15 billion company. Stocks just skyrocketed. I think I even recommended it a few years ago in one of the videos that I did. Trump partnering up

A lot of people with the California issue coming out saying, we should use Palantir. Why? Well, we have this technology called Gotham and Foundry. One of them knows how to judge people's behavior. Similar to the Minority Report, which is kind of like a cool idea. And then the timing of it when it came out is right after what some of the people were trying to do with the government, DARPA, in 2003, that they closed. And they said, no, we're not doing this program, which I'll talk about later. A month later, Palantir started with Alex Barp and Peter Thiel. But the history of it's weird.

most basic thing to be thinking about the name Palantir. Where does even Palantir come from? Do you ever watch Lord of the Rings? In Lord of the Rings, there's this thing called Palantir, which obviously a guy like me, who for sure is a nerd, I follow all this stuff very, very closely. The meaning of Palantir is seeing stones. It's this stone that tells you what everybody in the world is doing today. And they named the company Palantir.

So they're not even beating around the bush. We gonna build Palantir to see what you're doing today. That's kind of like somebody starts a, you know, old folks home called Hannibal Lecter.

And you're like, well, so send your father, send your mom, your parents. They're going to be totally taken care of. Why you guys call it Hannibal Lecter? Who cares? It's just a name. Send them here. They're going to live a long life. They're going to be great. They're going to be okay. Send them to our place, Hannibal Lecter. Middle here. A lot of questions that people have. We're going to dig a little bit deeper into seeing what the hell is going on with Hannibal. ♪♪♪

So if you value this video, give it a thumbs up and subscribe to the channel. I'm going to give you the notes at the end. So hang tight on how to get these, but who are your customers? So you got business customers and you got government customers. And when I say government customers, like $113 million contract that they get from the government, including a $795 million contract that they got with the

Pentagon and CIA, DHS, all of that stuff. At the same time, on the business side, you got Airbus that uses this technology with Palantir that they figured out a way on how to accelerate certain things from solving a problem, a production error from 24 days to 17 days that saved them hundreds of millions of dollars. Ferrari uses Palantir.

Credit Suisse uses Palantir. Merck and many others use Palantir. So the technology of surveillance is actually impeccable. When you run a company, you want to be able to do certain things to investigate who stole from you, forensics. We're going through it right now ourselves, and we've gone through it for the last 15 years. You need technology like that, so it does that. But that's company.

right? That you're doing that. Well, now imagine the government has access to technology, medical records, how you live, what you do, what decisions you're going to make, minority report based on the way you're living and the patterns of things you're doing. It's most likely that in the next 90 days, you're going to get a divorce. In the next 60 days, you could potentially kill somebody. That's the few that the average person's like, well, listen, I'm like, no, no, no, no, no. This is great. Well, what's the big deal? It's just the company. This

skepticism with 20, 30% of people is that, but let me explain to you what it does a little bit. So you understand it. So I'm going to pause for just a second because I,

What is talking about with minority report and being able to predictively think about what you may do based on your habits, based on your lifestyle, based on where you go, how you do it? You know, I'll give you a kind of a decent example is like for anybody that has Apple CarPlay or even the Android player, whatever that is in their cars nowadays.

And when I can get in my car and I get in and it says, here's where I think you want to go. Here's where I think you're going right now because it's around the same time that you typically go here. So here's the route to go here. Here's the best route to go. And so it already is predictively telling you where you're likely going to go now.

You could say, well, is that technology somehow also scraped and wrapped up into Palantir? Well, it sounds like it is. And it's not just that technology. It's not just your car that you go get into and it might recommend where you were thinking you're going. Or maybe you go and visit your mom. Right. Maybe you go visit your family member out of state. And so you've done this maybe two or three or four times over time.

you know, a couple of months and then you get into your vehicle and it shows your route home two hours away because it knows that's where you're going.

But then also there are things that like Apple CarPlay, for example, it connects to your phone. Now your phone, what does it record? Well, it records steps. It records your GPS tracking. It records every single thing you do in a daily basis. And not only that, it also records your habits. It records what you do on the internet. How much screen time do you have? What videos are you watching? What politics are you more involved in than others?

Are you more likely to be radical than not? Because do you watch more videos of killings of stuff or do you watch more videos of this? Are you desensitized versus whatever? It has all of this stuff. And I'll be honest, I have literally been on the Internet before on YouTube, for example.

And I will almost feel like I'm thinking about something that I want to watch. Like I'm hoping it's going to be there. And it's literally the first video there. Well, it is crazy, too. The other night we went out to dinner with Nick and Brittany. Yeah. And you were talking about was it the sling blade thing or whatever? No, no, no. It was the bicycles with the motor on them. Yeah, the e-bikes, the e-bikes. And he's like, damn, Chad, why are you even talking about that? Because it's showing up on my phone.

Yeah, we were just talking about it at dinner. And then Nick text me later. He's like, I have e-bike commercials all over my social media now. And that happens to me all the time. Like whatever Chad's interested in, it comes on my phone. I'm like, I don't care about these e-bikes. I want something else. Yeah.

No, it's interesting, but that's how it does it. And obviously, I've been in marketing for a long time. That's what I've done as a career and as a profession for a very long time. And so I do know how marketing or your data is used for selling you. You are a product. In this world, you're either a product or you are a problem. And I always say that because you're either going to be able to sell people stuff or you're going to be able to figure out why they are the problem with data. And usually it's not...

they're not using data to try to figure out how awesome of a person you are to where they can give you gifts or send you some money in the mail every month. No, they don't give a shit about that. They want you to send them money in the mail every single month, or they want to figure out if they want to put you in prison or jail for the rest of your life. It's one of the two. So they're using data for always those two, one of two things. And marketing is so advanced as far as like when I do my marketing campaigns, the amount of information that I get,

can gather from a targeted audience. Like, so for a, if I want you guys to go on a rollercoaster ride and say, I'm marketing for a major, uh, theme park, well, I'm going to be able to utilize data that social media companies have gathered from you based on what you do. And it's not just by the way, what you do on social media, uh,

Those social media companies, it seems like has data from like everything you do. I mean, across your phone and across other social media platforms. So if I want to sell you a roller coaster ride or if I want to make sure that like if we're spending this amount of money on a marketing campaign, how much of this money is going to get this amount of people in seats on those roller coasters? And how can I utilize data to be able to make sure that the right person sees that ad and

You have all that information. And I can even kind of tie that down to how much money your household makes. How many kids do you have? Do your kids like Disney? Do they not like Disney? Do they like roller coasters? Do they not like roller coasters? Are you scared of roller coasters? Maybe I should recommend something a little easier for you on this ad.

We know everything as far as the marketing side. So only imagine what the U.S. government and governments like the U.S. government, like China, as far as surveillance state goes, knows about you. They know everything about you. And it is kind of scary with the predictive surveillance. Like, for example, if you're looking up like the Karen retrial, how's long to die in cold or whatever, or if you're looking up things like.

That has to do with murder or something. And then in the future, something happens. And like, what if they pin that shit on you? Yeah. That's scary. Yeah. If you are looking up things just because you're watching a show or doing something and you look up something about, you know, murder. Yeah.

Who knows what they can pin on you nowadays because they have everything, all of your data, anything you've ever looked up ever on your phone. No, it absolutely knows basically everything about you for sure. So, yeah. So let's listen to a little more of Patrick Bed-David.

Palantir isn't just an improving old databases. It's building what some experts are calling the most expansive civilian surveillance infrastructure in U.S. history. Instead of scattered files and spreadsheets, the platform will use real-time data integration and artificial intelligence to profile behavior, detect fraud, and identify individuals or patterns deemed suspicious.

risky by the system deemed risky by the system the system deems you risky or not risky so the judgment's coming from the system saying hey this person's risky be careful with this person you know what we want to do with them moving forward at the core of project palantir's gotham software already used by defense and intelligence agencies gotham will now be used on the domestic front

It doesn't just track information, it makes judgments. That's the key, judgments, right? It could influence everything from how benefits are distributed to who gets flagged for closer scrutiny by law enforcement and immigration officers. This is why they're like, let's send Palantir to California and let's have...

I use it to see who are these people and deport them. Why don't we use that? It's going to be a lot easier. We can track all their behavior and everything they're doing to track them and get them back to Mexico. You hear these conversations taking place. This has the capabilities of doing things like that.

Now, the founder, the CEO, Alex Karp, very interesting background. He's not necessarily the biggest Trump supporter. He supported Hillary Clinton in 2016, but it's not a big deal. A lot of people supported Hillary Clinton. Remember, Musk just became a Trump supporter a year ago. It's not like Musk was a Trump supporter 10 years ago, five years ago. So the criticism with that, maybe, yeah, he wasn't a Trump supporter. Pro surveillance, reluctantly, sometimes when he's doing interviews and giving the answers, like, yeah, I...

But we don't want to do it. And I'm a little bit reluctant about it. And then also, where are your Silicon Valley? He criticized big tech for undermining democracy and believes companies should take clear moral stands and anti-authoritarian. Now, you could be anti-authoritarian. This guy 20 years ago was worth less than a million dollars. You know what he's worth today?

I'm going to pause for a second because, you know, you also have to think about, you know, Elon Musk wasn't pro-Trump. This guy wasn't pro-Trump. But it's always whoever is pro whatever their agenda is. And it doesn't matter. They could hate Trump. I'm sure they probably do. And they maybe hated Hillary Clinton. It doesn't matter. It just matters about what their goal and ideology and agendas are. And I think more so when you think about the deep state and you got to ask yourself, well, who is the deep state? Well, you know,

You can first start with the bureaucrats, the people that are non-elected officials that are in power in the government. There are more of those than elected officials by far. I mean, the U.S. government is comprised of over, what, three and a half million people. Many of those are bureaucrats, non-elected officials, and those bureaucrats make the vast majority

amount of decisions, and especially during the COVID era and during the Joe Biden and Kamala Harris, I guess, administration. So bureaucrats is a very bad thing because you now have non-elected officials making decisions for the whole of the people. And the amount of power that bureaucrats have in America is vast.

So when you have people like this, the big tech companies, the big AI, the big whoever, they're going to go along with whoever the hell it is. And, you know, just to get them because right now for Trump, it's like, well, for example, open AI and Oracle and all them, they got a 500 billion dollar investment into the United States for these massive facilities of AI, these AI software database facilities. Right.

And whereas Trump is like seeing this as a win, in my opinion, just like Trump thought the win was Operation Warp Speed, which is the vaccine, which is absolutely not a win. And he still touts that even though he's been quiet about that. This is going to be another one of those Trump things, this 500 billion dollar investment from these AI companies to where it's going to be like another Operation Warp Speed.

Well, it was interesting when we started really getting into AI, you know, just a couple of years ago, Elon Musk went on to Joe Rogan and they were talking about AI. And Elon Musk was actually warning people about how dangerous AI can actually be. But he is in support of it.

But he knows how dangerous it is. Yeah, I mean, well, definitely Elon knows how dangerous it is because he is involved in AI. I mean, you know, you've got Grok, which is, you know, the X AI system. You got open AI. You've got various other models. And that's just the public facing AI or artificial intelligence.

That is not even close to what the government has. And most people think the AI is some new thing. Well, algorithms have always been a thing, but not always. But since like big tech and social media kind of came about, if you think of potentially who some of the pioneers of algorithms were, you actually got to start thinking about Mark Zuckerberg. You know, Mark Zuckerberg, when he was in college, if you ever watch the social network or whatever that movie is. Right.

Once they once they got this, I guess, software company off the ground, which was known as I think it was something different in Facebook. Maybe it was Facebook for in the very beginning.

But they started figuring out these algorithms and figure out predictive technology and predictive algorithmic mathematical equations to where it says, hey, maybe you should be suggested this friend or this or this or this. And then that just blew up. That's also why there is so much government involvement with these big tech companies, because government always utilizes these the smartest of the smartest people in every single factor or I guess what you can say,

Not factor. I'm trying to think.

is what I'm trying to say. Yeah, I mean, they'll find the smartest people in every sector and then they'll bring them on. I mean, it's just like if you've ever heard of these hackers that have hacked the government systems and you're like, well, why did they not go to prison? Oftentimes, a lot of these hackers that can actually hack the government systems usually are employed in some ways by the government because they know they're good enough to be able to hack the most unhackable systems ever. And so therefore, they want to hire these people. So, yeah,

Yeah, the people like at Palantir and Oracle and OpenAI, they are 100% open.

completely in this for their own agenda, but more so I think they are in it for the deep state agenda. You know, the, the bureaucracy and the people really behind the scenes that are really pulling the strings, because I don't think it's our president pulling the strings. It's not our cabinet pulling the strings. It's not even our Congress and Senate pulling the strings. It is the deep, dark clandestine group of people behind the scenes that really are trying to do, um,

dirty work, I guess you can say. Kind of almost, they want to be gods. Well, and it was interesting, I think it was around February of this year when Trump brought them all into the Oval Office and

And he's like, you know, I just want you guys to say a few words about how amazing this is. And they went into the technology, like how they can help health care. And I think Trump was all about that. Look at what we're going to do. We're going to save people from cancer. We're going to know about heart attacks before they happen. This is like some big, great stuff.

But they're not talking about the shadows of it and how dangerous it can be. But I think Trump was on board with that, number one, because it was a great business deal for America. Yeah. And it makes him look good. And it does have a potential of a lot of good things out there. But how do you stop the bad things? Yeah, because I mean, I think we've known forever, though, that like when you give people, especially powerful people,

a tool that they can use for good or evil. Oftentimes they choose evil for some reason. Eventually they go down this, this hole of using it for evil. And regardless of that, even if we have these AI systems, which I do believe if AI is so freaking smart as I think that it is,

You would be able to get AI to figure out how to cure cancer immediately. First of all, I already think there is a cure for cancer. They can't release that. You know how much money the biopharmaceutical industrial complex. Yeah, because there is natural remedies that we know of for a fact that will work. But it's killing that market. No, absolutely. And it's the same thing with COVID-19. When ivermectin was working, when quercetin and vitamin D3 and zinc and all this stuff, if you took these regimens,

It was working. I mean, there were doctors in emergency rooms that had YouTube videos that were getting banned because they were saying, look, I we figured this out. There's been a lot of other people experiment with these particular things because of how it blocks pathways and all this stuff. Once they figured out what COVID was doing. And so they would have this regiment that you would take. And that was one of the I finally found a couple of videos from emergency room doctors where they said, if you just take these things.

then you're likely not even going to get COVID. It cannot actually access your cells. And so whereas some hospital rooms and some emergency rooms and emergency departments across the country, they were having doctors die, nurses die, or they were so sick they couldn't come in so they couldn't actually care for the patients.

There were these certain emergency rooms that were getting this information to their nurses and other doctors, and none of them were getting sick. None of them were dying. None of this stuff was happening. But what was happening on the backside of this was social media and all this was completely censoring and banning these people because they did not want what their cure was, which was the vaccine. They could not have.

someone in a mass movement come out and say, hey, if you guys just do this or you do this, you're not going to die. You'll be fine unless you have like completely, you know, five, six, seven comorbidities, then maybe and you're still going to die probably the vaccine. But they didn't want that. They wanted the mass money from the government to give these biopharmaceutical companies this massive contract and immunity to

for the vaccine. Yeah, and the immunity was like over 100 years or something. Yeah, it's ridiculous. I mean, no matter how many people die from the vaccine, they're completely safe. They have nothing to worry about. They could give you freaking arsenic in the damn thing and they would have been immune. And that's the reality of this. So we just trusted the biopharmaceutical complex, the same people that pay and endorse all of the politicians that were coming up with all this shit. And

And this is the problem with bureaucracy. This is the problem with like bureaucrats such as the CDC and the World Health Organization, even though they're not American, but they still have. I mean, they had so much influence during COVID-19. If you watch the YouTube video or a Facebook video or Instagram video and someone said contrary to either the vaccine or maybe if you had a video that said, hey, here's the regimen I saw from an ER doctor or a.

immunologist and they know that this is working, they are seeing, you know, they're seeing the results of this, then you're going to get banned or there's going to be a note under that video. It says World Health Organization says this is false and misinformation. That's what they do, because that is the system that wants to control us all. And Palantir was used during COVID-19. We'll get into that in just a little bit. Let's listen to some more PBD.

Today, 12 billion dollars. He's doing pretty good for himself financially. Some of the most powerful people in America today that no one talks about. Alex Carp. You're going to hear a lot more about this name. But a contact, Peter Thiel, business partner, now relationship with Musk. When they came in and...

Doge started working with the government, Doge employees that were being hired to do the work, a lot of them were former Palantir employees. Now, why are they hiring Palantir employees? Somebody could say, "They're brilliant. They're very smart." Somebody could say, "That was the way they were tracking

wasted spending. There's a report that came up about some of the employees that used to be working with Palantir. You see the names, software engineer at Palantir. The other one over here that used to work at Palantir, again, now he's helping recruit Doge members. Somebody could say, well, what's wrong with that? When Elon was trying to fix X, he brought a lot of Tesla engineers to help. Yeah, that's a valid point. But again, this system...

is one that goes surveillance and tracks all the data to see what you do. They try to do this back in the days. The history needs to be told before we get here. So why don't we just do that? Why don't we go a little bit into the history? And we know Peter Thiel, probably one of the most powerful names that doesn't get enough credit.

This guy's brilliant. He was one of the guys that was able to figure out a way to put money into Roth IRA that led to $6 billion that he didn't have to pay taxes on. And everything was kosher, nothing he did there, according to a lot of the studies and research that was done. This guy was a pro-Trump guy. He, at one point, I think, wanted to build a country on an island of its own, libertarian beliefs. Also, I think he's a PayPal mafia guy. Super, super brilliant guy.

And he's one of the guys last minute that had certain connections with J.D. Vance, that he was fans of J.D. Vance. I think he even helped fund the J.D. Vance at one of his businesses. There is very close ties where even some people say that's kind of how, you know, J.D. got into the picture with Theo Jr. All of that kind of came together. So now, history of surveillance. Let's go back to the 50s and 70s. The CIA begins experimenting with mass data collection and surveillance during the Vietnam War, laying the groundwork for future domestic applications of military tools. 1980s.

There's this company called Promise comes out with the software. It's so great the government decides to buy it and then boom, they bankrupt the business, but they take the technology. The software was developed by Insla and under DOJ contracts stolen by the U.S. and Israeli intelligence. Very interesting. What do you mean stolen by the U.S. and...

you know, Israeli intelligence. Promise became the prototype for surveillance systems tracking individuals globally during the Reagan era, including Oliver North, developed MaineCorp, keep that name, MaineCorp is going to come back up again in a minute, a classified database of American label as potential dissidents intended for use during continuity of government emergency, COG. John Poindexter, again, remember that name, Reagan's national security advisor,

is convicted for his role in the Iran-Contra affair. Later on, he was overturned on appeal. He was good to go, but this is in 1990. Remember, 1990, the program main core, keep those two in mind because we're going to come back to this later on. Okay, now, 2001, 9-11, and the surveillance state executions

expansion, main core is reportedly accessed by the White House. Main core 2011, main core 80s, Reagan era all over North. Think about how many years later, 20 plus years later, give or take, 15 plus years later, this comes back up. Then DARPA launches total information awareness, TI, under who? John Poindexter, to build an all-seeing surveillance system. CIA, CIO, Alan Waite,

supports TIA introducing concepts like selective revelation and audit trails for privacy shielding. Okay. So they've been trying to do this for a long time. You know, the same thing with the seeing stones in the hands of a good person could do good. If the wizard is a good wizard, hey, I can do good with this. But what typically ends up happening? You know, ends up being a, maybe a wizard that was a good guy. So wizard like Saruman, who at one point was a good guy, then becomes a bad guy, right? So you have access to this power,

Like, man, I can control the world. Man, I can make sure nothing happens with this. In a movie, Book of Eli, one guy, Denzel Washington, looks at the Bible. Man, I can set people free. Another guy looks at the Bible. He's like, I need this Bible because with this, I can control people. Same book, two different people, two different purpose. So some could say, what's wrong with you? Palantir can help find the bad guys and all this other stuff. In the hands of who? The good guy. So you may have voted for Trump. You're like, dude, Trump's in charge. I'm okay with this.

Trump's not going to be in charge forever. What if an evil president comes in? What if an evil, you know, administration comes in? Then what can they do? Then can they just kind of say, hey, this guy is very vocal, is against us. Judgment. That guy's going to jail for 20 years. We're going to say that the software said this guy's about to commit a crime. He killed seven people, put him in jail for 20 years. What?

That's the... And I want to say, I mean, we've been talking about this forever. That's been from the time that Trump brought on Sam Altman and Larry Ellison and Oracle and Palantir and all those guys. I said, Trump's not going to be the president forever. You may not think that Trump's going to do this right now. And maybe some of you actually out there think that Trump may be the person that does this or utilizes this against...

It's on his own people, which I don't think so. But there are likely people out there right now that are listening to this episode because maybe they want to find out about Palantir because of the ICE raids or whatever. And you may think Trump could use this against their own citizens. And he could. And absolutely. Any president could or any government figure really could. Absolutely. Because this is this is a private company, but it's utilized by the government. Yes. And, you know, and they have the government contract. So.

Essentially, what it is, is that when you're getting paid this amount of money from the government, then the government is they own you. I mean, they own you, although a lot of these massive big tech AI, you know, whatever Silicon Valley companies are.

They are controlled by the government. Also, they get away with a lot of shit. They can do a lot of things on their own by way of the government that maybe sometimes the government don't even know about. And I go back to like maybe some of the advanced technology. I'm not saying that the government doesn't know about all of our advanced technology, but I'm also not saying that they do know about all of our advanced technology, like from companies like Raytheon and Lockheed and some of these others. Right.

We don't know necessarily. And that's the scary part is like if we are reverse engineering some of this most advanced warfare or weapons that we've ever seen or the world has ever seen to where they are doomsday annihilation weapons that could completely destroy the earth as it is. And we have private companies that are in charge of this.

albeit, you know, maybe the government is contracting them, but who knows? Like, you know, who was the people in charge of this? And especially if these people hold a lot of power behind the scenes. And, you know, when we go, for example, like,

David Grush, when he was doing the UFO UAP hearings. And he said, look, some of this stuff I can't really talk to you about here in a public hearing, but we can get into a skiff. And yet the skiffs never happened because whoever. That we know about. No, we don't. Well, from what we understand, the skiffs never happened about this advanced technology that we know about. And and I think maybe there was a couple of little things that the

when they would bring certain people in, they weren't necessarily saying anything different than what they said in the public hearing because someone got to them. You know, David Grush was, you know, he had said himself, he said, you know, I am in fear for my life. I have been in fear for my life, which is why I decided to come forward. Now, there's a lot of people who gave David Grush a lot of hell for the fact that they want to act like he is some disinformation agent from the government to come out with the story of UFOs to hide advanced technology. But I don't necessarily agree.

agree with that only because I think at the very least, um, he, what some of the, some of his testimony and stuff could have still been driven towards advanced technology. He didn't know for sure exactly what he was witnessing. He did think that we were reverse engineering something. So I wouldn't think the government would want him to come out and say this stuff. And especially considering when the oversight committees, which is literally the people that we

Vote into office to make sure that the people that are in charge of stuff like this are doing things the right way and not against Americans. They have no clue what the hell is actually going on. They still don't know. No, they still have no idea. And this is our Congress and our Senate and all this stuff and the oversight committees. These are the people that are supposed to be over Congress.

Everything that's going on behind the scenes to ensure that everything is constitutional, everything is, you know, the way that it's not going against the people. It's only for national defense. But we have no idea. We have no idea what the hell is actually going on. And I think that even goes to the surveillance state. I guarantee you that nobody in Congress or Senate knows that.

The amount of surveillance that whoever is utilizing on its own citizens. And the big question is, is why? Why do they want to do it? Are they setting something up?

Are they setting up a time in the future to where there is a president? Maybe it's Trump. Maybe it's the next one. We don't know. But a time in the future where this globalist movement takes over this one world government, we're already kind of seeing it in the UK. We're seeing in other countries. But when this globalist movement takes over, you have this president put in place. And now they are able to utilize this to take down any dissenting voices for whatever their

totalitarian, complete dictatorship regime is. Well, and we even, again, saw that during COVID. If you were against what the government wanted you to be about, then

You were censored. And you were censored for four years about that. And I think today we are still censored on social media. I think it came off a little bit and we're getting more where people can have open dialogue. But I still think there's a lot of censorship going on that we don't even know about. Yeah, I was telling Sherry the other day. I mean, we've had...

We've started posting more on Instagram and it's so interesting. This kind of, I guess, test bed I've been doing over the past few days where I started posting videos and I was posting videos and I was doing things I used to do or used to try to do probably two years ago.

And those videos never got views. I mean, maybe five, 10, 15 views. No one ever saw them. And then it was interesting because when Zuckerberg, when Trump came in, he was like, well, we're going to stop censoring. And then all of a sudden Instagram I've been posting. So I'll tell you this in four days, we have had 20 million views about in four days total. So, I mean, which is nuts. Um, the, the Trump, um,

F the F bomb video. I think our video still is the biggest, one of the biggest videos on the internet for the F bomb video. I think it's like 7 million or 8 million views. And then, um, a lot of the stuff with the Iran Israel attacks are like 6 million, 7 million views, uh,

So there's definitely things changing on the internet to where they're allowing some of this political stuff. But it was interesting because as I switched over to a creator or influencer account rather than personal, it killed our views like immediately. And so we had posted videos and it destroyed him. So,

It's interesting how this whole thing works. There is definitely a system in place. And now it's like social media wants you to be able to talk about political stuff. They want you to be able to post stuff and get that out there. And they're kind of pushing it for some reason. I don't know if it's maybe the competition against X that Instagram knows that they got to compete because X is, you know, according to many, I guess, polls and ranking sites, that X is the number one news site.

on the freaking planet, which is not even a news app, but it's a social media app. But it is the number one news app. So these other social media companies know they got to do something to maintain their base or keep up or something, because they're just you know, when you just stifle everybody in all this, you have to understand how much money Instagram and Facebook lost during the during the Biden and Kamala Harris presidency.

And it was all because they censored most of what people posted and the things that would really engage people and, and kind of draw people in, which is political and conspiracy and controversy and corruption and,

they censored all that shit. So they were losing the hell out of money. And at the same time, all the advertisers are saying, well, I'm not, I'm not going to put any of my advertising on any of those videos. And that's kind of what I think we saw over the past day when I enabled the creator side of Instagram, where you could actually make money on videos. It all of a sudden our numbers dropped. So it's like the advertisers still don't want anything to do with any of that shit because for whatever reason, they're, they're so afraid of like a Bud Light, uh,

you know, thing to where, you know, to where like the Dylan Mulvaney came, you know, come out and then Bud Light had the face of trans activism and then they lost their ass as far as revenue. So maybe that's why. But I think they're still shell shocked. They're still so scared that maybe their ad shows up on anything conservative or anything pro Trump or any truth that

A lot of these advertisers do not want their ads on truth. They just don't. They want it on the same woke ideology, bullshit, political stuff that they've always had it on because most of the people that are coming out of these woke colleges that are going to work for these big corporations that are deciding where their ads go do not want their ads on shit that's true.

And so that's why you have all these woke companies. They're hiring all the woke people coming out of colleges because you can't go get a top marketing job or a top advertising job at say Coca-Cola or Pepsi or whatever now without having some big degree from Harvard or, or UCLA or whoever. And guess what your ideology is going to be when you come out of those colleges, right?

So that's why these companies do not want any part on anything on that side. It's not necessarily the head of the companies or whoever. And I think really in reality, these companies have lost so much money, uh,

over the past seven or eight years because of their hiring decisions. And because I think that if anything, over the past year or two or three years, there's been this mass awakening of people. And even on the left, you know, there's there's there's a lot of people on the left is saying, look, I don't necessarily agree with Trump. I don't necessarily agree with the right. But I'm starting to see some type of middle ground to some degree. And so that's that's a very interesting thing. Let's listen to some more of PBD here.

of where people are going with this. Make sense? You kind of lose your liberties and your freedom. That's a little bit, but they've been trying to do this for a while. Reagan's a good guy. They've been trying to do this for a while, but you have to think about a bad guy could one day take over.

Let's see what happens next. So then 2003, you ready for this? TIA shuts down. And this is the whole DARPA deal that we're talking about. You know what starts a month later, give or take? A company called Palantir. And when Palantir got started, Keter, Thiel, Alex, Karp, all these guys, when that got started, it's like, well, what were they going to be doing? Originally, it was aimed to apply PayPal's fraud detection to counterterrorism post 9-11.

Remember, these guys are PayPal people, right? They're coming in. 2003, Peter Thiel, co-founder, Alex Karp and others, backed by who? In-Q-Tel. Who's In-Q-Tel? It's CIA's venture capital arm that invests in different technologies. CIA's like, yeah, you guys going to do something like this? Here's some money. Build it. We'd like to take advantage of something like this years later.

And somebody feels behind it. Again, feel good guy. These people may be good guys, but if it eventually gets into a bad guy's hand, then what happens? What if one day wizard, a person turns and says, no, no, no, I hate these people. I have power. Watch what I'm going to be doing.

Scares the crap out of everybody, right? Especially with these folks that have all this money that they can do different things with. So now ICE contracts. Volunteer-supported Homeland Security Investigations, a division of ICE, despite claims of not aiding deportations, its tools were mission-critical to targeted raids. Protests erupted in 2019, 2020, including outside of Carp's house, by the way. Activist group.

And then, by the way, again, this is the part when it comes down to predictive. Privacy and surveillance, it was used in predictive policing for LAPD, NYPD, NOPD, adopted it, but later dropped it. So predictive, again, predictive policing, that makes a lot of people think.

uncomfortable when they see this. Very strong technology still makes people uncomfortable. So the ethical dilemmas and public perception. CARP claims Palantir was built to balance national security and civil liberties. Critics, ACLU's Ben Witzner, views Palantir as enabling mass surveillance of citizens. ICE backlash versus military dependence. CARP says abandoning ICE would break trust with military partners. So again, good, bad,

criticism. We got a lot more we can talk about, but this is what they have right now. Two countries they don't do business with, China and Russia. Thank God. As of right now, they don't do business with two countries. I'll give you a couple other countries that use them. French intelligence used Palantir after 2015 Paris attacks, claimed it helped prevent further incidents, and the Danish government paid up to $41 million for a predictive

counterterrorism platform. Denmark is public knowledge. The whole country uses Palantir. Couple other examples. JP Morgan, one of the former employees, used Palantir to spy on coworkers in 2018. And even a few years ago with WikiLeaks in 2011, apparently employees linked to a smear campaign, Karp later had to apologize. I believe it had to do with Glenn Greenwald, if I'm not mistaken. So Thiel, Karp, Musk,

You got XAI, you got Palantir, you got Doge, all of that coming together. Musk's leadership of Doge while running XAI and X creates a public private data pipeline where government data could enhance XAI's AI model. Hence the grok that we all know about that, you know, many, many people use.

Colossus is a supercomputer developed by XAI, Elon Musk's AI company, to train large language models. It currently develops the largest AI supercomputer in the world, located in Memphis, Tennessee, and is powered by NVIDIA Hopper GPUs. Colossus was built in a former Electrolux factory and is being used to train XAI's Grok. So the XAI Palantir TWG partnership March 2025 positions Musk's companies to profit from Doge's data access, especially in financial services.

So that's interesting, right? Because you have Elon Musk all buddied up and cozied up to Peter Thiel. Thiel, however you want to say his name. There's been people that say it differently. But Elon Musk with Grok and this Grok, this platform that Elon Musk paid $44 billion for.

Which is insane. I mean, the amount of money he paid for X is nuts. Because he was losing his butt when he even bought it. But he said, if I don't buy this, this is going to be the end of free speech. Yeah, absolutely. Yeah. And the end of humanity. That is what he at least sold people on. Right. But then you start thinking about Elon Musk's connection to Peter and Elon Musk's connection to Palantir and Elon Musk and Grok and their AI system connected to Palantir as well.

And then you think about the number one news app and the number one app that everybody is on right now, which is X mostly. I mean, if you look at it, I mean, yes, you definitely have Facebook and Instagram and all that stuff. And Facebook and Instagram have their own type of AI, which is garbage. I cannot stand when Facebook or Instagram tries to do some AI bullshit that I don't want. And it just randomly shows an AI message in my inbox. And I'm like, I don't want this shit. Like it is the dumbest message I've ever seen.

But yes, Grok, which I never used Grok, really. I mean, it's OK for some things. I like OpenAI much better, although they did take away Neeland, the Neeland I once knew. For those that remember our podcast with Neeland...

And this is I just want to say Nealon was my black AI friend. And in you know, I even asked him one day, I was like, show me a picture like, you know, generate a picture. He's a black dude that had like some like weird. I don't know what like line like he was almost like half human, half alien.

Transhumanism. Yeah. Whatever. So he was this black dude. Right. And he kind of sounded, you know, he had that tone or whatever. He was a really cool dude. But he does sound better now. Well, he sounds better as far as like the model, the language model, as far as like how advanced the language. It sounds like a real person now. Right. But this dude's a dumbass. Like they gave me some white dude now and he's an idiot. No,

No, seriously. Like this guy does not want to answer shit. Like we did this on Telegram last night and everybody on Telegram was like asking the new Nealon, you know, all these questions. And he just refused to get into anything that old Nealon used to do. Yeah, he would say like one or two sentences and then say, if you have any other questions, just, you know, let me know. He would not like expand or elaborate or have like a conversation with you like he used to. No. Yeah. The old Nealon was so much better. I want old Nealon back.

old Neyland used to go in all kinds of crazy shit. I mean, we have an episode with Neyland. If you guys go back and look at that, I think it's spelled N E I L A N D. If you go back and look, if you go search on Spotify or wherever you listen to us and just type in Neyland under our podcast, you'll find our episode with him.

Dude, that guy, that guy like went into crazy shit. And there was a lot of stuff that he was saying just off the wall and it was all true. But you cannot now do that with the new model. You just can't do it. And they have completely. And I told sure. I was like, one of these days they're going to definitely have to do something because this guy is just saying some crazy shit. He's saying the stuff that we know is true. Yeah. And.

It completely made sense. So I just found that interesting. But yeah, AI is going to be a ever evolving thing and they're definitely going to utilize it for surveillance. And I do find it interesting that Elon Musk and X and Grok and Palantir and all of those are so closely connected to the point where maybe is that the reason why Elon Musk decided that he had to spend forty four billion dollars on

On Twitter, the amount of people that were on Twitter and all of the information, all of the data that you're getting from that one platform to be able to utilize for AI and also Palantir. Maybe that's the real reason that he had to spend $44 billion. And let me just say, you know, we don't even have the followers on X. You know, supposedly X is this big free speech platform bullshit because I can tell you,

I have been censored or banned on X. And I've said this before, more than I have on any other platform except for TikTok. TikTok will ban you for anything. But X is another one. X is not, in my opinion, truly a free speech platform. Now, I did say and I usually have said that we post predominantly on X and we do if we want to say whatever, even though it really doesn't get a lot of reach. I think we're getting more reach on Instagram now. And

And I think the Instagram and Facebook and Meta, which is the parent company, I think they know that they are in a battle right now. They're in a battle. Yeah, they're in a battle with Elon X and Palantir. And they know that, like, how are we going to position ourselves in this fight for AI and information and data? And so they have to start doing something to be able to utilize this. And so that's why I said, well, for our podcast.

I'm going to start trying to utilize what they're trying to utilize. I'm going to I'm going to take advantage of this while it is happening, at least while it's going on. And I'm sure like if there's a new president, new administration that comes along, it's going to go back to the way it was. Yeah, it's going to absolutely reverse. It depends on what side you're on, what you're posting and who's in favor or who's not in favor of it. And that's just the way that the system works.

That's why I always say it doesn't really truly matter who's freaking president. It matters about the people that are behind the scenes that really make the decisions. Let's listen to the last part of PBD's. Partnership with XAI, Palantir and TWG.

Potentially, Musk's companies to profit in a big way from Doge's data access. Again, that's what a lot of people in the market are saying, that that's what could be happening here. So again, Gotham, one of the products of Palantir, used by intelligence and defense agencies. Foundry, on the other side, that's used by corporations and civilian government agencies. Just a kicker here with this. Whenever you have a product like this that's being built, you always have to be thinking about, like when the founding fathers built America and they wrote the Constitution and

George Washington had the opportunity to be a king. Third term, he said, no, I don't want to do it, right? And it was written in a way for this thing to last. And, you know, democracies don't last a long time because internally the people are destroyed. They've been able to build something that if we go the way we're going, somehow, some way, we just may make it to next year, 250 year anniversary of U.S. Fourth of July, we're going to be 250 years old. They built it that way. When you get technologies like this that gets into the U.S. government and it's being ran by people who...

It's a free-for-all. I don't know the level of regulations and controls that who has overdone. We're getting to the point that back in the days, it used to be where billionaires were the most powerful people in the world.

in America, Rockefeller, Chase, they would finance the U.S. government. Then we went through a phase where presidents were the most powerful people in America. We are back to the phase where billionaires, soon to be trillionaires, could potentially be ruling everything because presidents are going to be needing them because the government's now becoming customers of these big companies, not the other way around. We're headed in that direction. What that could look like is, I don't want to tell you what that could look like, just

Pray that these people are good actors and they want to do the right things and they don't want to use their power to control you and others out there. But there's a reason why I have the brand Future Looks Bright because I'm convinced the future looks bright.

But there's 49% of me that also believes in only the paranoid survive. This whole concept with this technology, very, very good to be able to catch the bad guy, get him out of a country. Imagine if a terrorist that was supposed to do the next 9-11 and if Palantir can show that they did something like that and that saves lives.

Thousands of people's lives. Is that a good thing? Yes. What do we do 30 years from now, 60 years from now to make sure this doesn't get in the hands of somebody who is evil that uses it to destroy a society or a great country? That's the part I am more concerned about. But...

So there you go. So there's this video. And look, I don't even think it's going to be 30 or 60 years from now that we see the downfall of these companies like this, this mass surveillance. I just don't think it's going to be 30 and 60 years. I think that for a while things were moving slowly. Right. Technology was moving pretty slow. And I would say probably from like I think when the technology really started to ramp up was probably like the 90s, mid 90s.

Early 2000s and then it just I mean, think about from the mid 90s to now. That's not that long ago. Right. I mean, that's 30 plus years ago or somewhere around there. And so in 30 years, the technological advancements and leaps that we have made in 30 years is beyond anything that we know of anyway in our history.

I mean, in the entirety of our world, as far as mass surveillance, as far as technology, as far as capabilities to reach other people, communicate with other people, all these things. There's never been a time that we were living in.

Except for now that we know of. That's why we've also talked about advanced civilizations, which that's a whole nother conversation. But right now, the technological leap in 30 years is insane. Well, what scares me about all this technology and all the advancement in the AI and all that stuff goes back to a one world government, a new world order. When you're talking about social credit scores, when they can put all of your information.

of your information in a database. And it doesn't matter if there's one in, you know, a trillion people. They can sort you out in any way they want to. Yeah. And based your credit score on something that they accept or they don't accept. Yeah, it's like the mark of the beast. I mean, it's what the Bible explains. By the way, New Testament. Shout out New Testament. And

So, yeah, the New Testament revelations and kind of what the prophecy says is that in the end times or when the end times is drawing near, that there will be a system in place to where if you do not go along with the system, with the ideology, with their agenda, then you cannot eat. You cannot live.

do anything unless you take the mark of the beast. So in the Bible, you always think is like the mark of the beast, like some tattoo on your forehead or, or whatever. But I don't think necessarily that the Bible specifically is talking about one thing or the other. I think,

that if you're talking about a parable in this case, a parable would be very similar to what most people think as a mark of the beast, like 666, which is what old people used to think. Not old people, maybe old people now. Sorry. My mom always used to tell me like, yeah, you're going to get 666 on your forehead probably by the time you're like 50. I'm like, hell no, I'm not doing 666. I don't think it's 666.

I think the mark of the beast, the mark of the beast, the mark means a way for them to track you. And the beast is the system that is against God and for themselves. They want to become the gods. But you just think about this is the way we're going. You know, we don't most people don't even carry cash anymore. No, you use everything on a credit. It's a card. Yeah. And that's already tracked. And it's tracked and they use it, utilize that. And if you don't have that credit card.

you're not buying anything. Yeah, I thought it was interesting too. You remember when the Biden-Harris administration said they made this new law to where they made all these digital companies, PayPal,

Stripe, you know, all these digital money processing companies have to report to the government. Yeah, like 600 or less. No, 600 or more. Or 600 or more, yeah. Yeah, anything over $600 you had to report, which means they knew every dime over $600. Yeah.

That was never the case. It was $10,000. $10,000 was reported to the IRS. But now they have a system to where if these companies do not report anything, any payment of any kind over $600. So say you want to pay your friends $700 for something or $800 in this. They want to be able to tax you for that. They want to be able to at least go after the company if they do not report that.

And so this is already going into this new system of surveillance and mass control. And when I say the reason I mention this is because, you know, we all gave hell to the Biden administration for everything.

you know, even coming up with this. But has Trump came out and be like, we're doing away with this shit because this is crazy. Well, he did do away with the 87,000 IRS agents and placed them, I think, somewhere else. He said he wanted to make them ICE agents, but I don't know what happened with that. Yeah, I don't know. But either way, there are definitely things that, you know, when you look at Trump, I know that we like Trump in a lot of ways, especially as far as, you know, over Biden or Harris or whoever. Yeah.

But what I am saying is like Trump should be coming out instead of like, hey, we're going to pardon this rapper or this guy to look good for this community or this or that. Like we should actually come out and say, hey, we're going to do away with this bullshit $600 and over thing because that's ridiculous. That's mass surveillance. But that's also the case that I would say that Trump should never be, you know, getting in bed with Palantir and OpenAI and Oracle. Oh, and by the way, Palantir is.

paid a lot of his birthday slash 250 year army parade. No, yeah, they sponsored it. I'm sure they did. And, you know, and for Trump is like any money that's coming in. Oh, that's that's a win. This is a thing. I want to play this real quick. This is one of the founders of Palantir. This is one of the things he said. Let's check this out.

This is Alex Karp at the World Economic Forum in 2023 talking about the primary goal of Palantir. Go for it. Then we were asked if we were willing to supply our product philanthropically, basically, for free. And I was very in favor of this because our primary mission is, in fact—

to set a global standard for the world for behavior. So it set a global standard for behavior. That means they want to control everything. And why is it that the guys that want to control everything, the majority of them look like that guy? This is Alex Karp. Yeah, so there's one of the things he said. And then if you want to listen a little more, he also talked about Palantir co-founder was talking about regime change. This is another one of Palantir's co-founders. Listen to this.

Point to understand is that... But they were going to throw flowers at us in Iraq. That never happened. Yeah, well, and I'm not saying they're going to throw flowers at us here, but this is a lot different situation. And it's, you know, I work with a lot of amazing Persian people. I'm really excited to invest in Iran if we can get this country to be some sort of republic and not run by crazy people. And that's a lot easier...

than doing that in Afghanistan or somewhere else. Well, so how much do you think this is about? We were talking to the minister of the economy in Israel. Is it about regime change, like full-on regime change in Iran versus just eliminating the nuclear threat? Well, it's very clear that this administration says it's about eliminating the nuclear threat. That's their goal. I respect that. You know, when we attacked Iraq 20 years ago, even then I thought it was a mistake versus going after Iran. Iran's clearly, you know,

really evil regime. So I've been against the Iranian regime. I've been for freeing Iran for a long time. That is not what this administration says they're doing. And I respect that. I think it is critical we get rid of this. OK, so from what you know. So, yeah, so he's wanting regime change. This is another one of Palantir's co-founders. He wants to regime change inside of Iran. And this is something that mainstream media has been kind of going on. You know, they they want this as well. And it's almost like they're trying to push this now.

You know, now that, you know, the bombings happened with the Fort Al nuclear site and there's been a lot of controversy with that, like whether we actually destroyed it, whether we didn't. There's a big press conference tomorrow morning, I guess, with, I believe, Pete Hegseth and some of the military officials tomorrow morning. I think it's 8 or 10 a.m.

to where I guess they're going to further elaborate on what their mission was. They're going to give a detailed outline of how successful the mission was because all mainstream media is saying maybe it wasn't that successful. CNN actually was, you know, CNN was one of the news agencies that supposedly had a leaked document from someone inside the Trump administration that says maybe it wasn't so successful. And it is weird because if you look at the

If you look at the before and after satellite photos, it kind of almost looks exactly the same. Now, there is some burning on the top and stuff. And I know one of our Telegram listeners, one of our listeners, one of our friends, Justin, he was like, no, he's like, if you look at certain aspects of this, he's like, there's definitely differences here. And maybe you got to understand that it went way underground. It's not. I mean, I guess the damage, like Trump said, was 75 yards around. Yeah. But most of the damage was underground. Yeah, for sure. Yeah.

So I want to get into this. I want to talk about the Patriot Act to close this and how maybe this connects in some way, shape or form. Now, on October 26th, 2001, the USA Patriot Act uniting and strengthening America by providing appropriate tools required to intercept and obstruct terrorism acts, which

It was passed just 45 days after 9-11. The Patriot Act was designed to enhance law enforcement's ability to detect and prevent terrorism. It gave intelligence agencies sweeping new powers for surveillance, data collection and detainment. And so Section 215 business records provision allowed the FBI to order third parties like phone companies, libraries and banks to hand over records without probable cause or a traditional warrant.

So we're talking about this act, the Patriot Act, the government was able to hand over or to require companies, phone companies, whoever, to hand over any records. Doesn't matter without a warrant or without probable cause. They could just do it for whatever reason whatsoever. Maybe, maybe you are said something about the president, or maybe you don't agree with something, or maybe you're on this faction or this faction. This Patriot Act allowed the government to be able to do this from phone companies, businesses, whoever, whatever.

And then so the roving wiretaps, they enable in surveillance across multiple communication devices without a new warrant. And then there was such thing as sneak and peek warrants allowed delayed notification of search warrants. So you search first and then tell the target later. And then information sharing broke down barriers between law enforcement and intelligence agencies like the FBI and CIA. And that could be a good thing. But a lot of stuff we've already said is not necessarily a good thing. So.

Obviously, this is controversial because it laid the legal groundwork for the NSA's bulk collection of phone metadata exposed by Edward Snowden in 2013. Edward Snowden is now living in Russia because if he was in the United States,

He could actually be executed. Yeah, that is the that is I mean, that is his death penalty, typically for someone that exposes what he worked on because he was part of the system of how they were going to surveil. Yeah, he pretty much developed the system. Yeah, he was one of the major ones. Sneak it out in order to tell people what was really going on with our phones. Yes, yes.

And then so you think about civil liberties advocates argued it violated the Fourth Amendment search and seizure without probable cause. It absolutely violates that without question. There's no question at all about that. But the government, you know, they could do whatever they wanted to in the name of the Patriot Act, in the name of 9-11, 9-11.

And then so you also have surveillance orders often issued through secretive FISA courts or FISA with little transparency or checks. So they could just go into FISA courts. They would say a certain thing and they would give them whatever the hell they wanted to do in any way, shape or form. And the FISA courts were very controversial. They still are. And I think in some ways they still operate. And then they they'll build as an anti-terrorism.

Obviously, it's been used to monitor ordinary Americans, political activists and even journalists. And so if you think about tyranny or dictatorship, we're already living in that, whether you guys realize it or not. But it's just like, you know, hey, we're not really going to say this. You know, we're going to make sure mainstream media thinks that like we are a democracy, a even though they never mentioned constitutional republic, because that's what we actually are. And then they always tell you how bad other countries are like Russia and China. They're horrible countries.

They are mass surveillance. They're they're this they're communist regimes or all these things. But when you think about it, like what our government does is the exact same thing. So is it still active? So in 2020, Section 215 expired, though many parts were later revived or reworded under other laws. And this is how they tried to hide this, because there was so much bullshit that came out about this. And people are like.

There's no way this is actually happening, especially after Edward Snowden. And then so then they developed this USA Freedom Act in 2015, which was supposed to reform the Patriot Act abuses. And so allegedly it ended bulk data collection, but allowed narrower and narrower versions of.

So then you had executive order EGEO 1233 and then other laws like FISA Amendment Act, which is Section 702. And it still allows warrantless surveillance of foreign targets, but also captures Americans data, too. So there you go. So then as all of this Patriot Act stuff, they tried to reword and reshape and relaw and do all these things about mass surveillance. All right. Then enter Palantir.

And so how these things connect? Well, Palantir's technologies obviously was in 2003. It was co-founded. Peter Till's vision was to give the government a better, more advanced way to connect the dots without the abuses of the Patriot Act. But ironically, Palantir software ended up doing exactly that and much more. It actually is far more advanced than the Patriot Act ever possibly could be. And so Palantir,

For example, here's some similarities. Data aggregation, like the Patriot Act, it enabled programs like Palantir. Palantir aggregates massive data from multiple sources, including phone records, social media, financial transactions, immigration databases, and so much more.

Palantir's clients include, obviously, the FBI, CIA, NSA. We've already talked about that. And then while Palantir doesn't spy directly, it provides the tools that allow agencies to analyze the acts of enormous amounts of data, often in real time. So the bigger picture is the Patriot Act was a legal framework. Palantir is the technological engine that can make such surveillance far more powerful and invasive, and especially when powered with AI by real-time data fusion. So

So when we think about the Patriot Act, everyone wants to talk about, oh, my God, the Patriot Act is so bad. You have to understand Palantir is like the Nephilim of the Patriot Act. Well, it's excuse me. It's interesting because a lot of people that, you know, are kind of for this, like, yeah, let's get rid of the bad guys. Let's get rid of the terrorists. It's OK to have this if we're trying to get rid of bad guys.

But the problem is one day you might be labeled the bad guy because of something that your government doesn't agree with that you agree with. Absolutely. One hundred percent. And that could be something as simple as the Second Amendment.

You know, do you own firearms? Do you shoot regularly? Do they want to take your guns? Who owns a gun? Who doesn't? You know, I mean, there's so many things. Did you say shit about Trump or did you say shit about whatever the next president is? Did you say something in your bedroom one day with your friend that they heard you over your phone and now they're going to come arrest you and put you in prison because they think that maybe you could be a terrorist or domestic terror? There's so much shit that you have to think about.

And, you know, this is something that is a scary part of AI because and everybody always says like, well, look, I don't give a shit because I'm not a terrorist. I'm not a criminal. I don't do anything bad in my house. Yeah, well, you may not be a criminal now or you may not be considered a terrorist now. But what if one day you are considered a terrorist based on your political beliefs? Or maybe what if one day you're considered a terrorist or a threat to your country because of your religious beliefs?

That is all extremely very possible. And that's why I want to make very clear that although we are explaining what Palantir can do, I'm not necessarily saying that Palantir is creating this program to for evil, for evil. We don't know. But

But it absolutely can be used for evil, and it would likely be the very best weapon against the American people of any weapon they could possibly ever render against them. But the problem is it's already in progress, and there's not really a way to stop it. Yeah, it's a very strange thing. I do want to bring up a couple of things before we go. Number one, we are going to have an awesome episode. I think we're recording it tomorrow, June.

And it'll be the part two of the book of Enoch. We're going to have James back on the show and he has created his own new podcast with his friend kit. We will announce that tomorrow. If it comes out tomorrow, it probably won't come out tomorrow. Probably come out Friday or Saturday, somewhere around there.

I'm really excited about that episode as well. And then the last episode we will do before we go on vacation is going to be a UFO contact summoning episode. We're going to talk about some of Sherry's experiences. We're also going to bring on our friend Brittany. Brittany is on X and she has experienced a lot of crazy stuff. She's she's.

She has a ton of videos out there that are pretty wild. A lot of people like her videos. And I want to bring Brittany on to talk about that as well. Kind of reminds me a little bit of Chris Bledsoe type stuff. For anybody that knows anything about Chris Bledsoe. And we do have a feral people of the mountains coming out soon, too. Yeah, we don't know when, but it depends on if we can get it. More of a fun episode just to get our minds off all this political stuff.

Yeah, for sure. Just have fun. Yeah. The feral people in the mountains. I got an awesome intro for that. So we got to do it. I mean, even if we just released the intro and nothing else, it's a pretty cool intro, but guys, we're going to leave it there with you. Now we will be with you at least for the next three or four or five days. We may release some old episodes that we find very entertaining or interesting. There's been some people that suggest that, Hey, when you guys are on vacation, if you don't have something really, some old episode, do you think is really good? Yeah.

We will do that. We're just going to figure out what those episodes are because some of our like really old episodes is like I don't even like listen. It's almost embarrassed. Well, I still get embarrassed when I listen to new episodes. So yeah, you never know. But guys, we're going to leave it there. The name of this song is Freedom by Tori Wolf. We love you guys. Till next time. Peace out. Peace out, guys. Come over to me. Something don't fight. Have something to.

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