The Book of Enoch 1 | Forbidden Origins, Fallen Angels & the Nephilim
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The Book of Enoch is what we're talking about and we're diving headfirst into Enoch 1 tonight and the mysterious tale of the Watchers, those so-called angels who descended to Earth and defied divine order. These beings didn't just observe humanity, they interfered. They taught forbidden knowledge, took human wives,

and fathered a race of giants known as the Nephilim, creatures that shook the very foundation of the ancient world. Why was this book kept out of the Bible, who were the Watchers really, and could this ancient account explain some of the world's oldest myths, religions, and even modern UFO phenomena?

get ready for a journey into the ancient rebellion divine judgment and the secrets buried beneath both scripture and stone this is enoch one the watchers the nephilim and the hidden war for humanity guys welcome to the show it is may the 21st 2025 the name of this song is walking dead by wellness i thought that was a good song to intro the enoch series because

When we start talking about giants and the supernatural beings that were the fallen angels from God's, I guess, not necessarily council, but they were the sons of God, as many people refer to the Watchers. And then we're also going to break down what the Nephilim are. So many people have talked about the Nephilim, and there's a lot of people that have heard the phrase Nephilim, but they don't quite know what the Nephilim are. Well, the Nephilim were giants and they were the offspring of the Watchers.

And this story, when you hear it, it will sound like some type of crazy sci-fi, supernatural, futuristic type deal. Maybe it's a movie you've watched. Maybe it's something that's going to remind you of this. But what if this is all actually very true? And also on the show tonight, we have a very special guest, one of our longtime friends and listeners of the show. That is James. James, welcome back to the show, man. Hey, thanks. Great to be back. Yeah.

Yeah, you came on the show last time when we talked about the Shroud of Turin and that show got great numbers. There was a lot of people love that that episode, the Shroud of Turin. If those that do not know what that is, you should go back and listen to that episode. It is essentially potentially the shroud that Jesus Christ was wrapped in after his crucifixion.

But James, you had told your story about how you became a Christian on that episode. And although this particular episode, we're not going to preach to you or anybody out there. We're literally talking about a book that's not even in the canonical Bible. But explain again how you actually were led to Christianity, because I think it kind of ties in or plays into what we're going to be talking about tonight.

Well, after the long research and figuring out the possible truth, let's say that right about 9-11, I wondered what else we may have been lied about or lied to about or been misled. And so I looked at the Bible. I grew up in church my entire life. So I believed that there was a God, like obviously a higher power. Just looking around, something had to make all this. But I didn't necessarily believe it was the God of the Bible.

So I figured, sure, a Bible written by humans, that's got to be fallible. There's got to be contradictions of all sorts. So I just simply started reading from the very beginning, looking for anything. I was ready and willing to tear it apart. Then I came across the verse. It's actually in Genesis 6. It says, and in those days there were giants and

And so I figured, bam, there it is nail in the coffin. It's done and over with. I didn't even make it that far. I just made it into the sixth chapter. So I started doing research on giants, you know, did my due diligence as a researcher, even though I didn't believe it was true. You still got to double check all the resources, but

And then after doing the research, I come to find out there actually is evidence that there were giants that roamed the earth. And we've dug up bones. We've even dug up bones in Illinois. You know, it's kind of incredible. And so that led me even deeper into wondering, all right, what else maybe does the Bible have to say that might actually be true?

Yeah, no question. And you had mentioned the giants in Illinois. And then obviously we had had a giants episode. I think it was actually kind of a series. We did two or three episodes about giants. And in particular, we talked about the Utah giants in the caves that they found these giant skeletal bones where the Smithsonian, uh,

did whatever they could to completely cover that up. And it wasn't just the Smithsonian that has tried to cover up the existence of giants or giant skeletal bones. It has been organizations around the world. I mean, we're talking about giant bones that have been found in South America or Africa or other places all around the world. And even in the United States, as you just said, James, where you have these bones not just found in Utah, but also in Illinois, in Tennessee, parts of Ohio, California,

There has been many historical, I guess, stories where it came to Indians that also encountered these massive giants way back in the day. Some of the first settlers in our region, they had to come across these giants. And so obviously that was post-flood, right? And one of the big questions about the Book of Enoch, which we're going to dive really deep into the Book of Enoch or at least Enoch 1 tonight, is

The big question is, is did the bloodline survive the flood? That is the biggest question. But we'll get into all that tonight. Sherry, I know that we both have struggled, obviously, spiritually, and James can definitely tell you that.

Yeah, James does that first down. Yeah. And so we do have a Telegram, guys. For anybody who wants to join our Telegram, we oftentimes get on Telegram many nights, actually, and have live chats. James is always on there with us. And there's a bunch of people that come on. We talk and suss out so much of the stuff we're going to talk about tonight, whether it's about the Bible or the Book of Enoch or, you know, Trump or the Epstein files or Diddy case or what we talk about everything. And the

The past few days has kind of been a little contentious in our telegram. And I'm actually very happy for that. And the reason I say I'm happy for that is because there are people that have different beliefs. There are people that have different opinions on certain things. And it's interesting how at times it can be contentious, but we always come kind of back together as a family. We are a family on this podcast. I think so many of our listeners, we

Yeah.

Sherry, for you and I, we've always struggled with spirituality. And, you know, we've talked about it many times on the show. You come from a different background than I do. Obviously, your family was more Jewish. My family was more Christian. You know, I sat in church at 11 and 12 years old, and I would listen to the stories that the preacher was preaching. And most of the time is scared the hell out of me. And except for the times when it was talking about good stuff like, oh, heaven, if you're good, you go to heaven. If you're bad, you go to hell.

But I was so young. Right. And I think in some ways, as I got older, a lot of that kind of what I thought was fear mongering in some ways, especially at a young age, especially when you're in the main church. Right. And you're 12 years old when you probably should be in Sunday school listening to like, you know, happier, happier stories. Right.

But it was one of the things that kind of led me to eventually turn away from God a little bit. But then I also think that's what led me back to God in a way that I wanted to research myself and I wanted to find out for myself, like, let's dig into this. Let's treat it the same way as a conspiracy. And let's see what is the most likely truth or most likely lie.

And so we're going to talk about all that as well. But you obviously came from a little different background. Yeah. And listen, it kind of happened to me, too, because I snuck to church with my friends because I wanted to go to church with them. I wanted to see what it was all about because they all had so much fun going to church, like youth group, hanging out. They got to go to the playground. They got to have fun and snacks. I was like, I want to be there. So I started sneaking to church when I was 11 years old with my girlfriend, Cheryl, and

When we were watching the preacher, it did really, I really did accept Jesus in my heart when I was 12 years old. And I don't know if I did it out of fear or what came about me, but it was that whole thing about if you believe in Jesus, you're going to heaven. That's all I heard. And that's all I cared about. And I went up to the front of that chapel and I got on my knees and I said, I accept Jesus.

Well, later that night, somehow my dad found out. Oh, boy. I was in big, big trouble. And your dad was Jewish. Yeah, my dad was Jewish. And he's like, those are freaky Christian people. You will not ever go back there. You're not allowed to go to church. Don't you ever go back there. I was in big trouble. But it also, too, because it upset me because I was so...

I mean, I had that fear of, oh, my God, I'm going to go to hell if I don't believe in Jesus. And that's not the way I was brought up. If you go decades later, when I was in my early 20s, I moved to the South. And in the South, the proper thing is to go to church. So I was like, well, I'm in the South now. I might as well go to a Baptist church.

So I started going to a Baptist church and what better way to learn about the Bible than becoming a Bible school teacher. So I was a first grade Bible school teacher for a couple of years and I was learning alongside with the first graders. I was learning the books of the Bible that just like they were learning. I was learning at the same time. So during this experience, this is what's crazy to me is that,

During this whole time I was in Baptist church and, you know, felt like I was living a Christian life. Not once did I ever, ever hear words like Enoch, Nephilim, watchers, never in church. Did I ever hear that? And I asked you the other night, Chad, I'm like, when did you learn about the Nephilim? Because I just learned about them basically through this podcast. Yeah, I was about 38 or 39 years old. So that was a couple of years ago.

And I want to give some credit to Brie because Brie is really our good friend Brie from End Times. The End Times Now podcast, yeah. Yeah, she is the one that kind of... If you're a lineman in charge of keeping the lights on, Grainger understands that you go to great lengths and sometimes heights to ensure the power is always flowing, which is why you can count on Grainger for professional-grade products and next-day delivery so you have everything you need to get the job done.

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showed us what Enoch was all about and what Nephilim were and open our eyes to all this other stuff that is out there. That's not in the Bible. And the more I research it, the more I believe I'm kind of like James, like the proof is in the pudding. It's right there. Yeah. And so James, obviously we had talked about too, you know, specifically about kind of some of the tips back and forth over the past few days. And it's not really just been a few days. I mean,

Obviously, James, we always talk on the telegram and we talk with a lot of people oftentimes and somehow usually it gets on the conversation of the Bible or even Enoch, but

And I think the past few days, one of the things that's kind of been back and forth is there has been some people that say, look, I don't think that you can necessarily or maybe they say it's not that you can't believe in God or Jesus without the other books. Right. But there are people that say we need these other books, desperately need these other books. Whereas you say we don't necessarily need the other books, even though I think that you've maybe said you can read them. Just give me your thought on that before we get into the book of Enoch.

So there's a difference between what we would call scripture and the non-scripture, obviously. But that doesn't mean that the non-scripture isn't beneficial.

So scripture, which is what we have in the Bible. Right. So we take this to be authority. Right. So that's why we compare everything to scripture. And that's how you can find out. That's like the discernment area, whether or not you can find out if something is reliable or something should be tossed in the trash can.

And then so whenever you're getting into comparing the two, you have to decide, is there anything in this extra biblical text that is contrary to what the Bible teaches? And then so, you know, vice versa. And then so the thing that you'll find is that.

So, for example, Enoch. Enoch is quoted by two apostles in the New Testament. And there's a lot of scholars that say even though it's quoted, that doesn't mean that they held it to be scripture. And in a way, that makes sense. Because if you look at the apostle Paul, when he was in Greece, he quoted some of their scriptures.

some of their poets. And so, you know, and that's, that's scripture that's in the Bible too. But are we supposed to take those poets as scripture now? So, but what I think is that,

If there is anything beneficial in Enoch, from what I've seen, I mean, nothing in Enoch really goes against scripture. And so that's why I even feel comfortable with reading it. But me, myself, I'm not going to call it scripture because I believe that what we have, you know, is what was preserved on purpose. But...

Whenever you get into reading the Bible, you will come across, for example, Jude. Or I said he quotes directly from Enoch, and he even says, as Enoch has said,

So, God left that verse in the Bible for a reason, and maybe it's for people like us that, you know, want to dig deeper. Well, what did Enoch say? Well, it's not in the Bible, so we have to go find out. We're going to actually get into what the book of Enoch is. There are three parts of the book of Enoch, and most historians or scholars believe that one Enoch is the most accepted. James, most people, I guess, believe also that it was written around 300 BC, one Enoch, which is before Christ.

And I think maybe the reason why second and third Enoch is not as accepted biblically or even just in the community at all is because it was written far after one Enoch. Is that correct?

Yeah, not only that it's written far after, but some of the ideas that they put forth in like two and three, it kind of goes against even some of the things that Enoch 1 teaches. So that's why they think that they're not 100% sure, again, who wrote Enoch, but...

But they are absolutely pretty certain that whoever wrote Enoch 1 was not the person who wrote 2 and 3. Makes sense. Yeah. OK, so let's get into this. And I also want to make sure that everyone understands that. And I've told everybody I've been researching Enoch. I've read the book of Enoch. I then also went and read Brian Gadawa's books, which is Enoch Primordial, a supernatural epic Bible novel.

And so he kind of puts the book of Enoch into a novel and like a cinematic novel. And Brian Goddow has actually got, I don't know, I think 10 or 11 movies under his belt. He has multiple bestselling books and series and all of it relates to, you know, either historical text, the book of Enoch,

the Bible, whatever it is, he has stories on Abraham and David and Noah. It kind of goes through the line. And if you're someone like me to where you read the Bible, I do think you should absolutely do both. Make no mistake. I think you should read the Bible. I think you should also read the book of Enoch in its text. And then I also think you need to go out there potentially just to help you a little bit and read some novels like this. And then in the back of these books,

And from Brian Goddow, for example, he gives references and exactly why and how he depicted the stories that he did in the way that he did. And not only is because Brian knows the Bible extremely well, this is his entire life. He's devoted to his writings on the Bible and the stories around the Bible. But more specifically, he reaches out to Michael Heiser, so many scholars in the field, and he

and gathers information from these scholars and then puts it also into his work in his book. And then he always makes sure to say at the end of every novel, hey, guys, just so you know, yeah, I did embellish some things as far as, you know, this is what I believe may have been the case of this particular character or this character. But here's what the Bible says. Here's what the actual book says. And here's how we can kind of suss it out and prove it out.

to some degree. And I think it's really cool about the cards you're talking about in the background with the characters or the, or in the back of the book of the characters or the people that are in Enoch is not only does it give a biography about them, but it's like an illustrated picture for you to probably like,

kind of get in your mind to think about, oh, okay, this is this guy. It kind of makes better sense to you with all these people in this novel. Yeah. I mean, it's the same way I kind of feel like is, and I've always said this, like if I read a name tag on someone's shirt and it says their name, I'll remember it a lot better if someone says, hey, my name is Brian versus I read it on their shirt. I have one of the, you know, not a photographic memory necessarily, but you know, I can just remember stuff seeing that.

But hearing it is another thing. So here's the fascinating case of the book of Enoch. And we're going to break this down. We're also going to play some clips that I think are highly interesting. And I want James's opinion on some of those as well. But one of the most fascinating cases of biblical appropriation of non-canonical text

is the New Testament references to the book of 1 Enoch. Now written sometime around the 3rd to 2nd century BC, this text has both haunted and been cherished by Christian church through its history. And it is an apocalyptic in genre, cloaking warnings of judgment and dream visions, parables, and complex allegorical imagery. But it is most well known for its detailed elaboration of the Genesis 6 story about the sons of God called Enoch.

And here is just an example of passages that tell the story in much more vivid detail than Genesis 6.

Here is Enoch 6, 1 through 2, and it says,

Now, Enoch 7183 and 19 one goes on to say, and they took wives unto themselves and everyone respectively chose one woman for himself. And they began to go unto them. And the women became pregnant and gave birth to great giants.

Now these giants consumed the produce of all the people until the people detested feeding them. So the giants turned against the people in order to eat them. And they began to sin against birds, wild beasts, reptiles, and fish. And their flesh was devoured one by the other. And they drank blood. And then the earth brought an accusation against the oppressors.

So, James, let's talk about this for a second, what this is referring to. We're talking about the watchers. Who are the watchers? The watchers are the sons of, I guess, sons of God. I mean, they call them various things, but these were angels that were supposed to, from what I have read multiple places, they were supposed to kind of come over and watch over people, right? And instead, they came down and they decided that, hey, you know what? We

We could actually be gods ourselves on earth. We could do what we want to do. Screw God, basically. Let's do what we want to do. And there was a main character in this to convince them, all the watchers, there were 200 of them that came down. There was one main character that kind of convinced them to do this, but they,

These were angelic beings, right, James? Yeah, angelic beings, heavenly beings, look at it either way. They were made by God and they were made for the purpose, you know, to serve God. And they decided rather than that, they themselves wanted to be served. So, yeah, you're absolutely right.

So they find these women, they come down, they say, hey, I am the gods. We are the gods. We are the mighty rulers. We and most people on earth believe they were gods. And in some ways, like if you go back to Greek mythology,

There are so many connections to the watchers and even Atlantis to all of Greek mythology about the sun God, the moon God, the God of the God of water. All of these gods took on a place in the book of Enoch. And these were known as the watchers. Now there was one particular watcher. That was the one that was over most of everything. And then you had other watchers that were responsible for other things, but the,

Azazel, the watcher, taught the people the art of making swords and knives and shields and breastplates. And wearing makeup. And wearing makeup, I have to say. Yeah, and alchemy. And transmutation. So ancient Ethiopian commentators explain this phrase as changing a man into a horse or a mule or vice versa, or transferring an embryo from one womb to another. Now, Amasras taught incantation and cutting of roots. And Amasras, the resolving of incantations is...

And astrology and Kerkario. I'm sorry. These are hard names. The knowledge of the signs and Tamil taught the scene of the stars. Now, the angels, which have united themselves with women, they have defiled the people and will lead them into error so that they will offer sacrifices to the demons as unto gods.

And Enoch 10, 4, 11 through 2 says,

Now you might want to ask yourself, who the hell is the accuser? The accuser in especially Enoch 1, the accuser is known as Satan.

The accuser is the word for Satan. And so what Enoch is saying here in Enoch one, it's saying that these watchers were led their holy leader or their what they believe to be their righteous leader was the accuser, a.k.a. Satan. Now, that is not the actual accuser.

leader of the watchers as far as the actual 200 one of the 200 watchers that came down but satan is kind of leading this whole thing and they're leading these astray he says and they'll dwell upon the earth now james have you heard about the accuser being also satan and that phrase

Oh, yeah, absolutely. The accuser anywhere throughout scripture, it's usually he is usually attributed to Satan, the devil, the accuser. He goes by many names. But yeah, it's usually him. Is it because, you know, when I'm listening to this book of Enoch,

And they're talking about the accuser being Satan. I'm thinking he's accusing God of not doing something good, of not doing something righteous, not providing what God said he was going to provide for humans, but

And that's why the accuser comes is to accuse God almost like in a court of law. Yeah. And by the way, I agree. Or what do you think about that? Yeah. So there's descriptions that literally say that kind of the accuser came along and said, hey, you know what, God, you're supposed to be this almighty loving God. You're supposed to be the creator of the universe. But why do we have sickness? Why do we have people that die? Why do we have all this stuff? He consistently always goes against what God is, you know, has done and created for humanity. Right.

And the accuser uses all of the bad things that happen on earth because of man's sin against God himself. And that's why they call him the accuser. And then when I think about the counsel of God, you know, there's the counsel and then the accuser. Does it make you almost feel like...

They're trying to put God in court. Yeah, on trial. Well, the God is the judge, right? So, I mean, whenever you picture even judgment, the day of judgment, it is going to be like a day in court. You will have the judge and then you will have the accuser, the prosecutor, who is Satan. He is there to bring up everything that you have ever done wrong.

And then that's where you've got, hopefully you've got a good attorney on your side and you've got a lawyer who's in the form of Jesus Christ who can cover for you. Yes. And even in Enoch one, how Enoch one describes the heavenly court and the accuser coming forth and accusing God. And, and, and, you know, the very interesting thing about Enoch one is how many times it describes or talks about the son of man.

And the son of man is in Enoch one, kind of the most righteous and the most right hand man to God, which most people and most scholars believe that person as described in Enoch is Jesus Christ. Yet we do not know this yet, the Enoch one, but we knew that there was going to be a Messiah come. We knew that there was going to be the most righteous, the most right hand, the most heavenly being of God's

divine and heavenly counsel come one day to save all of sin and all man. And it talked about this in Enoch one and Enoch one was for most people believe written before Genesis or before the actual Bible. So also to your point, James, where we talk about like, what should we read? What shouldn't we read? I think Enoch one is important at the very least because

It does describe the son of man. It describes the Messiah and it describes him. Most people believe as Jesus. But it's interesting to me. And maybe you guys can answer this question. They call Jesus the son of man and they call the watchers the son of God. Yeah. Like wouldn't Jesus be the son of God?

Well, he is. But the reason why they call him the son of man and the reason why he's got the distinction of that is because he is fully God and fully man. He was born from man and from the spirit. That's why they attribute him as the son of man. Yeah, absolutely. Now, I want to talk to you about this, too.

Probably people out there are wondering, well, this doesn't make any sense. Like how do heavenly beings, these angels, these watchers that come down,

How do they procreate with humans? How do they take women and actually have sex and fornication with women, but yet they're heavily beings? Yeah, because you got to think about this. Human women, they have body parts. They have a soul and a body. And then you think about the watchers, you think of them in a spirit way. How could they have sexual intercourse or fornicate with human women?

And see, that's a good question. And that's that's to where people get tripped up and even where I'm not 100 percent sure. But that's why a lot of people think that the watchers themselves, even though they're angels, they would be like a different sect of angels, maybe are like a different order.

which is why they would be different from the angels that we have described in the Bible typically. So a lot of people think that believe in the book would not be reliable. They think that the watchers, when they came down, they would have looked just like a man would have, although I'm sure they would have been, you know, like a 10 out of 10, let's just say. But how would they be different from Jesus then? Well, because they're not born of man. Mm-hmm.

Yeah. So and here's and here's here's what I kind of want to not necessarily a parable, but, you know, there are descriptions of these beings that had scaly skin and lizard eyes and all this stuff. I do think that they were physical beings. I mean, whether or not they were supernatural or not, they were in physical form in some way, shape or form. It's the same way. Sorry to cut you off. No, it's good.

That's another thing to remember, too, is that they were physical. And that's another reason why they were different from Jesus is that Jesus in actuality, like going back, you know, way before Earth was even created, he's the one that created the angels, right?

So he's the one that created the Watchers. Yes. And, and, but that's what I'm saying is, you know, you go back to the biblical story of Jesus where he was implanted into Mary and he was, you know, he was an embryo. He was, he was, uh,

you know, Virgin Mary, she did not have sex on anyone, you know, according to the Bible, but he was the chosen one. He was the one that was sent to wipe away all sin and be crucified and do all this stuff. The watchers came down, they were supernatural beings. And it specifically says that time and time again, these are 200 watchers that descended down and they took the wives. They took the women onto them. They had sex with them. Most, most people believe probably forcefully, but,

They then created Nephilim. So for those that want to know where Nephilim came from, it was the fornication. It was the sex between the watchers and the women of these multiple villages. These women would have babies and these babies would become giants. And these babies were the Nephilim. And the Nephilim are described as part human and part supernatural or part human.

Whatever you want to call it, demonic, evil, whatever. And obviously, as the watchers came down and as it starts describing the watchers of these 200 fallen angels that come down, they are also described multiple times as as evil or demonic, right?

And but it's interesting because they were at one point in time part of God's counsel. They were part of God's heavenly beings. And then they rebelled against God. They then it sounds like kind of went more for the accuser, the devil. And that's when they wanted to create their own kind of, I guess, earthly realm for their rule and their power. But I do think they were I do think they were physical in nature, James.

Yeah, yeah. They would have definitely had some sort of physical nature. Absolutely. Even angels themselves, like if they were to come down, it's not to say that they have to always be a spirit, you know, like in spiritual form. Like absolutely not. There are stories in the Bible where an angel has slaughtered an entire army.

And so, I mean, that would have to be physical. Yeah, absolutely. So though Enoch one is not in Western canon of scripture, as you were talking about, it is an Eastern Ethiopic canon and was respected by Christian scholars and authorities throughout early church. But,

It was never considered heretical by church authorities, but the real kicker is that the New Testament even refers favorably to the book of Enoch and his tradition of fallen angels and cohabiting with humans, which results in their punishment of binding.

And this is in Peter. This is in Peter 2, Jude 6 through 14. And then first Jude quotes the book of 1 Enoch outright when he writes of false teachers corrupting the church. And it says Jude 14 through 15 says, it was also about these that Enoch, the seventh from Adam, prophesied, saying, Behold, the Lord comes with 10,000 of his holy ones to execute judgment on all who sinned.

And then here's the text from the actual book of 1 Enoch that Jude is quoting. And it says, 1 Enoch 1.9 says,

And behold, he cometh with 10,000 of his holy ones to execute judgment upon all and to destroy all the ungodly and to convict all flesh of all the works of their ungodliness, which they have ungodly committed and of all the hard things which ungodly sinners have spoken against him. So obviously you have this Jude 14 through 15. You have the verse that is almost verbatim to Enoch 1, 1, 9.

And so the Bible consistently throughout scripture refers to Enoch one, but why did they not put the book of Enoch in the Canon?

Well, the easy answer is that in the book of Enoch, there's nothing in it that has to do with like salvation. There's nothing that you need to know in here that you can't get out of the Bible in order for you to make it to heaven. So there's nothing salvatic in it.

But then the deeper, harder answer is why is there not even much like fingerprints, footprints, you know, throughout history of this book within Jerusalem or even the temples whenever clearly some of the disciples had read it as if it was easily available to them. Yeah. Yeah.

That's where you have to start questioning, did the Pharisees, the temple leaders, the religious leaders at the time after Jesus' crucifixion, because what did he reference himself as all the time, constantly? The Son of Man. All right. It just so happens that in Enoch, he references to the Messiah constantly as the Son of Man. So maybe they went through crucifixion.

saw those similarities and was like, we don't even want anybody to be questioning this, so let's just burn them all. Which is really interesting because there was a sect of Jews that was actually against the temple leaders and they thought the temple, like the Pharisees and all that, they thought that they were corrupt. Which is where you get the Dead Sea Scrolls. They took a bunch of books and they hid them away, well not books, but scrolls, and they hid them away so that way the temple leaders couldn't

couldn't corrupt them, couldn't manipulate them in any form. And it's kind of interesting that we find the book of Enoch with the Dead Sea Scrolls. Yeah, that is interesting. Yeah, because there was a divide. I mean, there absolutely was a divide among the people back in the day to where there were the, I don't know if you call them maybe the high priest groups,

back in the day that they had a divide. And even when they were the Jews back then, they were sacrificing things in the temple. And, you know, there was a faction of the Jews that said, look, you know, I don't think we need to sacrifice because I think there was a divide between we know the Messiah is coming. We have heard this. We've heard it in Enoch one. We've heard it throughout our lineage. And yet we're still doing a sacrificial thing

Which Jews actually still do today because they do not believe in Jesus Christ. And so that is obviously the biggest divide between Jews today and Christians is Jews have to still sacrifice stuff or at least have these, you know, these what do you call rituals to where they do certain things and they feel like that's the only kosher food and things like that. Yes. Let me ask you guys a question, though.

Could they have removed these books out of control over humans, humans over control humans or governments controlling humans or some type of control mechanism where they only want you to believe what they want you to believe is almost like censorship today or freedom of speech. Why leave something out in order for us to believe or not believe in it?

Well, in a way, that's almost kind of what they did. I mean, if we're thinking that the Pharisees removed them from the temple, that's kind of what they did is because they're like, we don't want people to believe in Jesus. We want people to believe in Jesus.

like basically what we believe in, you know, like they, they weren't about that. Yeah. And, and they were, they were looking for control. Well, and you also have to understand, you know, the, the Jewish Bible, the Torah is essentially the old Testament, right? I mean, I think there are some other things maybe that are in the Jewish Bible or the Torah or the Talmud, which is one of the oldest versions, I guess, of Jewish historical texts. But, you know, the interesting thing is, is that,

In Enoch 1, it comes before the Old Testament, and yet it continually describes the Son of Man or Jesus Christ, I believe. But not only does Jude explicitly quote a passage of Enoch 1 regarding God coming with judgment of his divine counsel of holy ones, the sons of God.

which are the watchers. But all three texts refer to the Enochian notion of the angelic watchers punishment for cohabiting with humans as a violation of the divine and human separation. Another main theme of one Enoch in one Peter three, 18 through 20 Christ being put to death in the flesh, but made alive in the spirit in which he went and proclaimed to the spirits in prison that

because they formerly did not obey when God's patients were patiently waited in the days of Noah. Jude six, seven says, and angels who did not keep their own domain, but abandoned their proper abode. He has kept an internal bonds under darkness for the judgment of the great day, just as Sodom and Gomorrah and the cities around them. Since they, in the same way as they indulged in gross immortality and went after strange flesh and

after exhibited as an example is undergoing the punishment of eternal fire. So we're talking about here, these fallen angels that are having sex with human women. And this is in the, this is in Peter and Jude. And then Peter two, four through 10 says for, if God did not spare angels when they send, but cast them into hell,

And committed them to pits of darkness reserved for judgment and did not spare the ancient world, but preserve Noah. And if he condemned the cities of Sodom and Gomorrah to destruction by reducing them to ashes, having made them an example to those who would live ungodly lives thereafter, then the Lord knows how to.

keep the unrighteous under punishment for the day of judgment. And especially those who indulge the flesh in corrupt desires and despise authority. And this goes on in many, many books. And it's not just Enoch one. It is Surat 16, seven through eight. He forgave not the giants of old who revolted in their might. He spared not the place where the lot sojourned who were arrogant in their pride. And then you had the test of it of Naftali,

It says,

And then you have three Maccabees, which is also another book that is not in the canon. And it says thou dis destroy those who have for time did iniquity among whom were giants trusting in their strength and boldness, bringing upon them a boundless flood of water. Thou dis burn up with fire and brimstone, the men of Sodom workers of arrogance who had become known of all

of their crimes and dis make them an example of those who should come after. You also have Jubilees. You have Enoch 2, 34, 1. God convicts the persons who are idol worshipers and Sodom and fornicators. And for this reason, he brings down the flood upon them. So one of the things we were talking about, James, is like, you know, should you read other books? But it sounds like, and I almost guarantee you that most Christians don't even know why the flood happened necessarily. Maybe think that the flood happened because of their sin, but

But is that maybe because of the giants? That is, if you read most of these books that were left out, it seemed like that the flood happened because God wanted to wipe out the giants, also known as Nephilim. It was the offspring of the watchers to human women.

Well, that was only part of the problem, though, because we were a big part of the problem. Because think about it, like they never would have been here if it wasn't for our sin to begin with. Like we were the ones that choose to worship them. We were the ones that chose to follow them. We were the ones that chose to trade our daughters to them.

So, I mean, like, you know, in the end, it kind of falls back on us, really. But and then as far as the other books, too, like it sounds like there's some truth in there, too. Like, praise God for that, that he's reaching throughout history. But I mean, like, realistically, if you listen to Charles Manson long enough, I'm sure you'll hear that he he says some pretty good true things, too. Yeah. Listen to everything he has to say. Yeah.

No, I get that. That is totally true. But listen, in the Bible, I always learned that, you know, the flood came because we became evil people and we weren't believing in God. And God had to wash away our sins and start over. Basically, I never heard about Enoch, Nephilim, Watchers or anything for the Noah's Ark story. And I think that James says,

Proved a very valuable point that it's not just because of these watchers that went bad or the Nephilim. It's because we chose our paths and God had to cleanse us from those paths. Am I correct, James? Yeah.

Yeah, essentially. I mean, like, you know, in the very thing about it, in the very beginning, when they came down here and they saw the women and then they came, you know, like a lot of a lot of scholars think that they took them. But I don't think that's necessarily the case because it says that they traded. Right. So like the men, they traded their daughters willingly.

They could have said, no, we're not. We're not doing that. Like, that's not what God has commanded us to do. That is not what he you know, that's not within his guidelines. But instead, they went ahead and did it. They committed a sinful act, which then led to more sinful acts. But also, you got to think about this. You have watchers that are coming down. They're supernatural beings. I mean, obviously, they have much more power and force than any human on Earth and including, you know, the archangels that came down.

There were various archangels that were on God's side that were supposed to cast and condemn them to hell. You know, one of the things I've always heard is that, you know, you can't technically kill a watcher. You know, that is that is one thing that's kind of been in and you can't kill an archangel either. Right.

But you can you can, I guess, cast them and convict them into eternal. The depths of the earth is what it says. That's what it was saying. That's probably why they put them in a ditch. But you can't kill them. But here's the thing. So post flood, we got to talk about this for a second. Noah's flood came. There's a lot of people that believe after Noah's flood, there was no more giants. But we definitely have more tales of giants post flood.

There are many tales post-flood of giants in the existence of or after the flood, including the potential of Mzara, which was Noah's wife. And then Noah Mzar's daughter, or actually, sorry, it was Noah and Mzar's son, Ham was his name. And Ham had a wife that

potentially had sex with or fornication with some of these watchers or the gods, because what most people don't understand is during this time, it was either the watchers or it was the Nephilim that controlled all of the land. These were the kings of the land across the world.

I mean, they came down and they inhabited the earth and they controlled the earth. They were the rulers. They were the kings. You go back to the story of the Epic of Gilgamesh. Gilgamesh in Greek mythology, I guess, is Gilgamesh is, you know, still a king and a ruler of Uruk.

which was a, you know, a very big city, I guess, in the Middle East during that time. But Gilgamesh was known to be a kind of giant, like seven or eight feet tall. He wasn't necessarily a Nephilim, but he was part Nephilim and part human. And so,

You hear all these stories post-flood of these giants still existing and the bloodline still existing. And I go back to this. Is this where evil really started to inhabit the earth? And is that bloodline today still alive? And you think about this too, James.

Think about the royal bloodlines. Think about even all of the conspiracies and all the stuff where you go down the rabbit hole about all the presidents in the United States that are somehow connected through bloodline in some way, shape or form, except for a very few.

All of these royal or elites are connected in some way. The Rothschilds, the Soroses, the the king and queens of England, the all of these people. And many of these people also, I don't know if anybody knows this, but a lot of them actually are having sex with their own family to keep the blood in their family. And so.

You know, a lot of people don't understand that. And it's also interesting because there's always been this faction of people that also don't understand why, like the royal bloodline, they always have a problem with someone new that comes in a woman typically. So whether it's princess Diana, whether it's Megan Markle, even though I wouldn't like her either. I don't get it. They do like Kate though. Kate or whatever, but there always is problems with any of the men that want to bring in a wife or

And what I maybe think is like a wife that is outside of the bloodline. And if you bring in a wife outside of the bloodline, that's a problem. I think that there are still factions of people on this earth that are elites and are in control power and do manipulate our system and our way of life still to this day that maybe have a bloodline that dates back all the way back to the Nephilim. James, what do you think about that? You think that's possible?

Actually, I mean, realistically, it is possible. There's a thing in the Bible that tells us either way about, you know, even Noah's sons' wives, right? So we don't know. Their blood could have been somewhat, you know, mixed in. It's truly possible. I will say that I don't believe that any of that necessarily, like, I mean, as far as the reason,

breeding you know and stuff is going on necessarily today because again just like what you referenced earlier from second peter it says that they are kept in chains until the day of judgment so like they're still bound but about that bloodline you know that's where it gets iffy it could absolutely be that it you know survived through the flood with again that um the wives and

But then, too, it's possible that the bloodline that we have today, you know, the ruling bloodline, the royal bloodline, whatever you want to call it, the elitist bloodline, if it didn't come from the Nephilim necessarily directly, it still doesn't mean that it's not it doesn't have the same goal that the Nephilim had. Right. Their goal was basically we are gods. We are in control. We rule you and you will worship us.

Like, so realistically, it's the same spirit, you know, either way, whether whether or not it's the same blood, it's the exact same spirit. Yeah, I think the I think the the Nephilim bloodline has become NBA players now. But other than that, I've seen I've definitely seen some NBA players. I'm like, there's no way they're not Nephilim for sure. Like, absolutely. Like, how are they not Nephilim?

Uh, but either way, I mean, and it seems weird because especially when you see like the Chinese, uh, basketball players are like eight foot four and you're like, what the hell? There's no way they're not. There's absolutely no way. And this is not racist at all. I'm just saying Chinese people are not usually tall anyways. Um,

I want to also get to this. So you remember when the Israelites were leaving Egypt, right, during Exodus, and they were, you know, they were slaves to the Egyptian kings and rulers, and they called them gods actually back in the day. They referred to these rulers as gods.

And I often always hear it's like, well, the Bible talks about gods as not necessarily gods like as in supernatural beings or watchers, but maybe rulers. And a lot of there's been scholars that say, well, I believe it talks about that in the Bible. There are textual concepts of gods as being rulers, maybe human, but not necessarily supernatural beings.

But then if you listen to 1 Enoch and how it refers to gods, it doesn't necessarily refer to gods just as rulers. It refers to them as having a supernatural characteristic. And when we think about Egypt and you think about the pyramids and all that stuff, right? Think about this as well. So God led the Israelites, the Jews, out of Egypt. They were bricklayers. They were slaves to basically building bricks.

And he led them out. He led them to their promised land, which is Canaan, which is now Israel.

And he told them, he said, go into this land. This is your land. I promise to you and you are to go into this land and destroy every living thing in the land. And why do I tell you or command you to do this is because there are giants in this land that are still fornicating with women. They are teaching these people, uh, idolatry to believe in other gods besides myself. And this is an Exodus, right? Yeah.

And so the Jews go in kind of and they really don't do shit the first time. And they do exactly kind of what God told them not to do. So then God cast this generation of Jews out. And he says, you're going to live in the Badlands until we have a new generation that is going to be more ballsy than you that can actually go in here and do this. And they did that. And then guess what? It still was the same thing. These people went in.

They befriended them. Well, they had war with them a little bit, but then eventually it was like they started to worship in those gods, their gods. And even talked about these giants being in beds that were massive beds because of how big they were. These are giants during this time. Now, I'm not a Bible scholar, but this was pre-flood, James? Yeah.

This would have been post-flood. Dang, that's weird. So post-flood is talking about giants in the land of Canaan. But I do want to bring this up real quick. If there were really giants among us on Earth, that would totally explain to me how the pyramids were built. I don't think so.

Well, they had technology and knowledge that they gave to humans. Yes. And, you know, I guess humans were treading their daughters for this knowledge and technology. Yeah. I almost feel like this is lost technology that we don't even have today. You think about the pyramids. There's no way we could build them today, even with all the machinery we have. No, there's something divine that happened probably there. We, you know, we always want to speculate and say, well, it's UFOs. You know, it's aliens that came. But.

And we're going to get into a little bit of that conversation in just a minute. Well, they are aliens, technically. I mean, if you think about what the definition of aliens are, aliens are, you know, a otherworldly being. Yeah, they're non-human. They're non-human. What are watchers? They're non-human. They're supernatural. They're otherworldly beings. And so, James, when we talked about and we talk about UFOs all the time, but we're

Do you not, you know, and there's a lot of Christians also that say, oh, well, you can't believe in aliens if you believe in God. Well, then you're saying that you can't believe in watchers then. You can't believe in anything that Enoch 1 says or even Genesis or all the other scriptures that take into account the giants or even the fact that many verses in the Bible consistently talk about that the spirits on earth will be demonic. So you're telling me that

You can't believe in aliens, but you can believe in all of this other stuff. Or are you saying you can't also believe in that in the Bible? What is your take on that?

With aliens, I don't think so. Well, me personally, I don't believe in aliens coming from outer space, coming from a distant land. I don't believe in that. But think about it. If an angel showed up right in front of you right now, you're not going to know what it is. It's going to be alien to you because it came from somewhere else. You don't know what it is.

Um, so, I mean, I think that's where the correlation comes into play. And then too, even as far as like whenever the watchers descended onto Mount, uh, Mount Hermon, what did they use their wings or did they come in quote unquote chariots? You know, it doesn't really say, but that's something that I've thought about too, is we often think in as heaven being, uh,

You know, like the ancient days, right? Like no electricity, chariots, stuff like that. But it never really says that. Like who's to say that heaven doesn't have electricity? After all, God literally created everything, you know? Well, I believe heaven is another dimension, though. How do you mean? Well, I mean, I'm just saying when we talk about interdimensional stuff, I mean, there was a clip. I don't know if I have it and I'll see if I have it.

But there was a clip that Sean Ryan talked about yesterday on Tucker Carlson. And this is it was pretty interesting because when you hear this clip, Sean Ryan goes on air and they're talking about UFOs and all this stuff. And they said this specifically. I want to play this real quick. One second. Think that all this alien extraterrestrial shit. I mean, yeah.

It's fun to dig down there, but I mean, I think it's a big distraction. I don't know if it's meant to be some type of a controlled op, but I think it is. I think all this stuff is spiritual. That's what I think. Of course it is. I think all this stuff is spiritual. All these things that people are seeing and stuff. I think, I think there's a spirituality component to it now. These are angels and demons or what? Pretty much. Yeah. And, um, and, uh,

Where was I going with this? And anti-gravitic propulsion systems. I mean, yeah, I think we I mean, I would hope that we have shit that that is next generation stuff. That's not, you know, the same shit we've been using since World War Two. So there is Sean Ryan talking about, you know, what does he think about the UFO alien thing? And Sean Ryan obviously has a huge podcast, Sean Ryan Show.

And Sean Ryan was a CIA guy for a while. I think he was Navy SEAL as well. But, you know, when he's talking specifically here about UFOs, like, what do you think it is? And Tucker's been on this bandwagon as well, talking about like, maybe these aren't, you know, aliens from another planet. This is some spiritual battle. This is a spiritual battle going on that we're just able to see right now, whether it's from the demons and the

the angelic beings. And it kind of goes back to Enoch one, where you have the archangels that come down, Michael and, and, and Uriel and, and all these others that were, that were fighting this great battle against the watchers, against these gods of earth, right? The gods of earth, they proclaim were the gods of earth that were led by Satan and,

And even in the Bible, as it consistently talks about the fact that there will be demon spirits on the earth, I think obviously we have come to the conclusion that they refer to the watchers even back in this day. And even in throughout the Bible, they refer to the watchers or what we believe to be the watchers as they refer to them in the Bible as these demonic spirits that are led by the accuser, a.k.a. Satan. Do you think that this could be a spiritual battle we're seeing? I know that sounds nutso.

But do you think, James, that this could be some type of spiritual warfare and not just spiritual? And we're not talking about what we feel. We're talking about actual entities, things that

that are actually manifesting themselves in a physical reality into our world today, that maybe this is starting to heat up again. Similarly to how in the Bible it talks about, you know, in the end times, you will see signs from the heavens signs that, you know, I'm going to show you when the time is near all this stuff. Do you think this could be a battle between the, you know, maybe even the original watchers and demonic spirits? I mean, I,

Well, whenever you get into the demonic spirits, so something even I always thought in the past was that demonic spirits, so like demons, that they were fallen angels themselves. But whenever you're actually reading, even in the book of Enoch, you'll see that he ascribes the demons to like, you know, evil spirits to the spirits of the Nephilim, the spirits of the giants. Right.

Meaning, so like, you know, you were part man, part angel. So then like your spirit has to stay here, basically roam the earth. And it even says that they will cause affliction on the humans and everything like that, basically because they're jealous because they basically came from us and they want what we have. And then as far as the spiritual warfare goes, that is absolutely everything that's happening. But what,

With them doing like, you know, angels and demons, that's constantly going on no matter what. And then even the things that we see in the sky, that could be spiritual warfare even within yourself because what is it trying to convince you of? Right. It depends. What do you think that is?

Well, getting back to Chad's question about heaven, because we kind of got off track with that with this little video. Chad said it. He thinks it's interdimensional. The other day we were reading James.

this part about Enoch where they said that they had dug this huge pit and there was four pits and one had like enlightenment. It was this paradise place, like beautiful place underground. And then there's three other chambers. And one was for people that were murdered and one was for the most sinful people. And then the other chamber was just like normal kind of sinful people. Yeah.

I guess, and some of them are waiting for judgment. To me, that sounds like heaven and hell. But there's also the biggest of all the pits. And the biggest of all the pits is the worst pit. It is what many people, if you want to kind of try to visualize hell,

It is the ultimate pit, which is where the Watchers were supposedly cast down into and the fiery pit. But what I'm saying is it talks about this first pit is paradise to me. When you think about paradise and enlightened and light shining on you, you think about heaven. What do you think about that? And what do you think heaven is, James?

Well, I think heaven is a, um, like, well right now, so it's in the spiritual realm. So however you want to think about that, but it is going to come here physically, um,

after judgment, right? But then what you're talking about is a place called Sheol. And that's even talked about in the Old Testament. Jesus even talks about Sheol. And it is a place, a holding place, essentially for the dead.

Now this is where it gets kind of complicated. Well, not even complicated, but it goes deeper than just being like a holding place because there's a parable where Jesus talks about Abraham's bosom. There was a rich man in hell and a

A poor man in like what you would call Abraham's bosom or, you know, quote unquote paradise, but they were both in Sheol. They were separated by a separation. So the rich man was in torment and the poor man was in peace with Abraham.

So what they're talking about is before Jesus came, if you died, even if you were considered a saint or even righteous, you were still separated from God. So God still sent you to this place. However, he didn't send you there to be tormented, right? Because he loved you and you loved him.

So you got sent there with Abraham. But then Jesus comes. He dies on the cross. Then he goes to the spirits in Sheol, the righteous ones, and he takes them with him to paradise. And that's another place where he is. And so that's where Paul even talks absent from the body, present with the Lord. So when you die now, you don't go to a holding place. You go directly to be with him. Yeah.

So that's kind of the big, I mean, that's the big storyline. A holding line until Jesus came back. Everyone that died would go into this place of holding until the Messiah or Jesus came back. And so,

Or Jesus even came at all. The Messiah, whatever. Yeah. Yeah. Right. Because we were separated from God. So even in death, they were separated from God. But because of Jesus and his sacrifice, that's what brought us back to God. That's what...

allowed us to be in communion with him again. So that's why he went down and took the saints, including Abraham and including the poor man, which the parable that Jesus talked about, all the saints of the Old Testament, the prophets, he took them out and he took them home.

Yeah. Yeah, that's that's nuts. And, you know, like I said, with one Enoch, we hear these storylines about the son of man, the coming of the Messiah and this kind of divide. Now, I want to play a clip here. And the reason why I want to play this is because Timothy Albarino says.

which is a guy that talks, you know, they call him the rogue archaeologist. Now, I don't know what Timothy Albarino's spiritual beliefs are necessarily. I know that he has heavily studied the Bible, historical text, scripture, you name it.

And so he has a very definitive view on some of this stuff, especially about Atlantis. So bear with us, guys, on this clip. This is from the Michael Knowles show. And this specifically talks about, you know, what what potentially happened during this time and what he believes even up until Atlantis about how all of this stuff kind of connects. Listen.

The Evangelium of James, for instance, is an edifying work to read and can inform us. It's useful. Maybe it's not canon, but it's useful. And so that seems to be kind of the view that you're taking. Well, I will say this, and that is my view, but I will say this. I'll add.

That in the book of Enoch, see, the book of Enoch, first Enoch is very complex. And we're going to get back to what I called the first cause in a minute with Enoch. But the book of Enoch is very complex. First Enoch, there are three different books of Enoch. Only one of them, portions of it were written before Christ. That's the one I'm interested in. First Enoch. There's second Enoch, which is called the Slavonic Enoch. And third Enoch, which is called the Hebrew Enoch.

First Enoch is known as the Ethiopian Enoch because the Ethiopians preserved it. First Enoch, the oldest portions of First Enoch, namely the Book of the Watchers and the Book of Parables, were most certainly written before Christ. And why is this important? Because some of the most extraordinary, astounding, Christological prophecies, prophecies pertaining to the Son of Man, which is the title that Jesus used most often when speaking of himself,

are in the parables in 1 Enoch. I mean, absolutely stunningly accurate prophecies pertaining to Jesus of Nazareth written before Christ. Is there any dispute over the dating of the first book of Enoch? Most scholars will date, in fact, almost universally, scholars date the earliest portions of Enoch to sometime around 300 BC. Now, it's a complicated document, but

Because it's a compilation of text written by various authors. I'm most interested in the first two sections of 1 Enoch, which are the Book of the Watchers and the parables, precisely because they're dated to before the birth of Christ. And my whole point in bringing up Enoch was you have that snippet in Genesis. Well, that story...

In fact, that's where the story comes from, is the book of Enoch. That little reference in Genesis, if you want to know the full story of what the author is alluding to, you read 1 Enoch.

specifically the Book of the Watchers, the first section. And it tells you this extraordinary narrative. I mean, it's what I call the Enochian tale about the sons of God, which are designated as watchers in 1 Enoch, that they're looking down, they're seeing the daughters of men. And it's basically almost copy-paste into Genesis, the Genesis 6 reference. And intriguingly enough, in R.H. Charles' translation, it's the same verses, Genesis 6, 1 through whatever it is, 4, I think.

at the sons of God, but in book of Enoch, it's the angels. And by the way, that's the way the Septuagint renders it as well. Genesis six, the angels are looking down at the daughters of men, that they're fair, that they're beautiful and they lust. Okay, so that's why I told you to back up. I call that the first cause of the angel sin in this particular case, the watcher's rebellion. The first cause is lust, right?

How do you explain lust for spiritual beings who don't have bodies? How do you explain incorporeal beings having sexual impulses? That is a very good question. But just before we get to it,

You wouldn't say this is the first sin that the angels committed because the rebellion of the angels, the rebellion of Satan would have had to predate. This particular incident, this was the catalyst for what they were about to do. Yeah, so how does an incorporeal being, you know, become tumescent, to use a diplomatic word, for fair-looking ladies on the ground? That's right. And not only do these angels, according to 1 Enoch, again, which is the elaboration of the Genesis 6 reference,

Not only do they lust after these women, they are determined to take them as their wives and procreate offspring with them. So they lust. That's the first cause. Then they descend to the earth. According to first enough, 200 watchers descended the earth on the summit of Mount Hermon. The Mount Hermon is very interesting in the Bible.

They descend to the summit of Mount Hermon. They bind themselves by an oath of mutual imprecations. In other words, all for one, one for all. We're all in this together. They knew it was a great sin, but they were going to accept the consequences together, whatever befall. And then they, that's why the, by the way, the Mount Hermon has been known since time immemorial as the mountain of oaths.

And then they descended into the plains and they chose each one, one woman, one maiden that they desired to wed, who they ultimately took to wife. They copulated with these women. These women conceived and gave birth to giants, demigods, the offspring of God and man. Okay.

This is the Hebraic cosmological paradigm of the antediluvian world. This is the Hebraic paradigm of the golden age of Zep Tepi because the ancient Mesopotamians and the

the ancient Egyptians and the Greeks and the Romans and all the rest of them, they believe that the very same thing occurred. That the gods descended to the earth. That they copulated with human women. I mean, look at Atlantis, the story of Atlantis. Everybody knows about the city of Atlantis and the legend of Atlantis, but very few people pay attention to what Plato writes in the Timaeus and Critias dialogue where he talks about Atlantis. He has Solon of Athens traveling to Egypt and he's being informed by the priest of Sais

about the extraordinary past of the Athenians that he's unaware of. And part of this past involves this conflict that they had, this epic conflict with Atlantis and the Atlanteans. And they tell him the whole story, right? And everybody's familiar with Atlantis, that Atlantis was this advanced ancient city. It's a great resort in the Caribbean. Right, that as well, yes. It still exists today. In a slightly degraded form. Perfectly pleasant. It does.

So Atlantis was this advanced civilization that was destroyed in a day and a night in cataclysm, right? But Plato has the priests of Sais telling Solon in the dialogue the full story. And what's the beginning of the story of Atlantis? The beginning of the story of Atlantis is that the gods who descended to the earth are apportioning the earth amongst themselves.

They're creating an empire and they're dividing up their kingdoms. And Poseidon, for his lot, he got the area of Atlantis, the region that would become Atlantis. So what does he do? He builds Atlantis. He raises up an island out of the sea, which is ultimately going to be the home of this city, Atlantis. But what does he do after this or during this? He becomes enamored of a human woman named Plato.

And he takes her as his wife and he copulates with her. And she gives birth to five sets of twin sons who will become the 10 kings of Atlantis. And these are giants. Atlas, for example, is he's the chief among them. That's the backstory. So what do we see here? Well, this is a one-to-one match with the book of Enoch in Genesis 6.

Is it not? It's the gods descending to the earth, taking human women as their wives, having intercourse with them, and progenerating a race of demigod giants. This is everywhere. It's just like the megaliths that we were talking about. This is called the golden age. And I believe...

that it's literally true, that that literally happened in the time before the great flood. And I believe in the ubiquitous testimony of our ancient ancestors. And in fact, the Egyptians informed Solon

It was in the midst of the conflict because this Atlantean empire became expansionary. They became aggressive and they were going on conquest and they were steamrolling everybody that they encountered until they encountered the Athenians, who were the only faction that was able to resist them. And they're locked into this epic war, the Atlanteans versus the Athenians, and then cataclysm.

cataclysm destroys and everyone else, not just Atlantis, it's a global cataclysm. And the Egyptians kept record of this. And they told Solon that that wasn't the only cataclysm. There have been many cataclysms because they believed it was cyclic, that the cataclysm is cyclic, that there's this celestial time piece, the zodiac, that the primary function of which is to keep track of when the cataclysm is going to occur again.

And we've talked a lot about that on this show is the cyclic events of cataclysm. But with the Atlanteans, what I think happened was the flood, right?

It was the flood, but they also had giants back then. And it was one-to-one as Albarino says here with the one Enoch story of the giants of the Nephilim of the watchers of the gods that came down and procreated with women that then created these giants that then became rulers and Kings of many regions across the world. And,

And, you know, even when we go back to, say, the pyramids and all this stuff, you ask yourself, well, could this be maybe the reason why we had advanced civilization, why we had advanced technology well before today?

And even as we look at, you know, even ancient Egypt and the pyramids, as Sherry, you said earlier, you know, could we do that today? And there are many architects or people that say, how could you do this? Civil engineers. And it's like, this would be very hard to do even today. That's what's very interesting. James, do you believe that this is.

A realistic thing, you know, we talk about parables. I don't know if you want to explain what parables are for a second, because everybody talks about parables in the Bible. For people that don't really know the Bible or know what that means, what is a parable? Oh, and by the way, this was one of my lessons from James. Thank you, James. Well, a parable is a story that more likely didn't happen.

But it is good for teaching. So, for example, a good parable would be like the story of the boy who cried wolf. I think that's the one he's sharing. It's like, so that's a good story. But more than likely, that's never actually truly happened. A boy probably didn't cry wolf too many times and then actually get eaten by wolves. But it's good to tell your children. So that's the same thing as a parable in the Bible. Whenever you hear...

Even Jesus will say, hear this parable. So that means that he's about to tell you a story. Now, did it really happen? Probably not. But it's good to listen because he's about to teach you something. Well, I have many questions from this clip, and I'm going to ask both of you. The first thing I want to ask about...

is the Ethiopian Bible. And the reason why I asked this is when I was a teacher in first grade, my janitor, who I loved dearly, he was also a preacher of some type. He went to college, did all those things, but he considered himself an Ethiopian Jew. And he said his religion was older than the Jews. Why do you think the Ethiopians out of anyone else,

that had any kind of religious beliefs kept the book of Enoch and nobody else. By the way, I think they call the Ethiopian Jews, the ancient Jews. There's a lot of scholars that do call them the ancient Jews. Why did they call them that, James? Yeah. And I just wanted to shout out Tommy in case he listens. But go ahead, James, please.

You know, truly, I'm not 100% on why they call themselves that. I would have to do my own research on that. I do know that Ethiopians and Jews, you know, the Israelites, like they have mingled with

And even in the Old Testament, the New Testament, they've always been around one another. So, I mean, it's not any surprise to me that they wouldn't take up even some of the traditions and things. But I'm not sure why they would call themselves that. That was a good question. Maybe we should do another episode on that and just dig deep into that. Yeah. And I'm just wondering why out of any other religion are the Ethiopians the only one that kept the Book of Enoch? Wow.

We don't know that for sure. I mean, unless, you know, like you say, ancient Jews, obviously they were, they at least called themselves, they were older than what we know of potentially in the Bible, but they

To his point, and Timothy Albarino says here, I believe that these stories in Enoch 1, where the watchers came down, they procreated with women, they created giants, these giants ruled the earth for many, many years until the flood, and then maybe even after the flood, he believes, and I also believe, this literally happened. This is not a parable. I mean, we do have giant bones. So what I want to make very clear on this episode is that

When we talk about Enoch one or the stories in Enoch or even in Genesis six or Peter or Jude or all the other references to Enoch one, um,

I don't think that this was a parable. I don't think this was a story to tell someone for some type of lesson to give them. I believe 100% that there were watchers that were supernatural, that were part of God's counsel, or at least God's heavenly angels that came down. They were supernatural beings. They then procreated with human women. They created giants.

And I believe this literally happened. James, do you believe this literally happened? Yes, I do. Not only because, you know, not even because of the book of Enoch, but because that's even what scripture tells us. You know what I mean? It tells us that they came down here and they lusted and they, you know,

They had they procreated with with the human women. So, I mean, that's absolutely what I believe what happened. And then it even goes deeper than that, because if you go back to all the way in Genesis, the first sin, I think that that even what happened there was way deeper than just the first sin. I think somehow Satan kind of took some dominion, some authority away from us over the earth. And then you want to go even further now to whenever the watchers came here.

So if the earth was given to us as a birthright, a birthright can't be stolen, right?

But what if they can somehow, what if Satan can somehow become part of the family, even if it's by proxy? So I think that whenever they made it with the human women and they created the Nephilim, that was by proxy. Now they had even more dominion, even more authority over the earth. And that's why things in the Old Testament were so terrible, because Satan had way more control and way more freedom than what he does now.

When Jesus came, even at the ascension, he said, all authority has been given to me. He came and he shut that down and he took authority back for himself. So that's why we don't, you know, that's why it's not nearly as bad as what it used to be right now today. James, do they talk about demigods in the Bible? No, not demigods. But I mean, like, if you want to, if you want to consider like what that would have been

Like to us, like it would have been the Nephilim. Yeah. Are they descendants of the Anaki? Anaki. Anaki or whatever. Well, do you want to think that the Anaki would have been the Watchers? Well, that's what I'm just wondering. And, you know, I shouldn't have asked you guys that question. No, I think I know. I think I know the answer. But to me, the Watchers.

And the Anunnaki are almost the same thing where the Nephilim and the demigods come from. Okay, so demigods are essentially anything that are outside of the Watcher's offspring. So the Nephilim are demigods. These are part supernatural, part human beings.

the Anunnaki come down the line, right? So the Anunnaki come not necessarily on the first lineage or bloodline of the Nephilim, which would be from the watchers to human women. The Anunnaki come much further. Think about David and Goliath. Think about Gilgamesh. Think about all of these other, you know, kings, rulers, or potential gods. These would be considered potentially Anunnaki. This is a bloodline or a lineage from the Nephilim. So it's not necessarily as

I guess you could say as condensed as the Nephilim are, but the Anunnaki shared a very heavy bloodline, from my understanding, to the Nephilim. Now, that doesn't necessarily mean that they have all the same characteristics as a Nephilim or all the same powers or even the part human, part supernatural being characteristics.

structure, but they do have some, and the Anunnaki, they believe, is from that bloodline. So from everything I've read, I think that's where the Anunnaki comes from. Even, you know, the giants they talk about in the Bible multiple times, although they may not necessarily have been the Nephilim themselves, I do believe they come from the bloodline of the

of the Nephilim. And I think that's where the Anunnaki thing comes from. The Anunnaki tribes, the Anunnaki beings, this group of people that came directly from the Nephilim and their offspring. And

Obviously, as you go down the bloodline of Nephilim, as they keep procreating, keep procreating, they're going to get more of that human, you know, kind of side or bloodline to themselves. It's almost like they become half human, half animal in a way. And the reason why I say that is during this clip, he's talking about the Zodiac. He's talking about Atlantis. He's talking about Poseidon. And Poseidon in Greek mythology is a god.

Just like. Well, he would have been he would have been essentially a either a Nephilim or an Anunnaki type God. Right. And they're like half human, half animal. And you think about Zodiac and you think about constellations in the sky and you think about a lot of these constellations.

are named based on these Greek mythology gods. Well, I'll be honest with you. I don't think that Poseidon or even Gilgamesh or anything, I don't think they were actually part animal. I think that if there's any type of misinformation or malinformation that they want you to believe, it is that they want you to believe that these were half-human

or half God or half human. I actually think these were just half supernatural, half human. And I think that they tried to kind of muddy the water with the story with trying to make you believe this fat, this fantastical story of them being parked well or part horse or part whatever. And I think they did that intentionally to lead you away from the fact that there were actual beings that ruled or, or,

We're upon this earth that we're part supernatural and we're part human to where it kind of negates and takes away the story of Enoch one. Enoch one is a very important book. And the reason I say this is because it's the same thing that we're talking about with the UFO phenomenon, the interdimensional stuff, all everything we're talking about today. Imagine this. If the watchers didn't just fall, mate and die off, but instead went underground off world or interdimensional, uh,

I mean, UFOs may have been their craft. You think about the flying chariots of old, the wheels within wheels of Ezekiel, which you talked about earlier, James, but

What if today's glowing orbs or the Tic Tacs or the triangles that we're seeing any of this stuff? These are not aliens necessarily from another star system, but maybe watchers using advanced technology. After all, if we think about what the watchers originally did, they corrupted mankind with technology. They taught them all of these things, makeup, everything. And so, uh,

maybe they use these supernatural powers to observe or influence or even abduct humanity again. And maybe that's what's happening. And it has been happening over the past hundred years, you know, abductions, you know, modern genetic experiments, any of this stuff, just as the watchers corrupted the genetic makeup of mankind in Enoch's day, you know, modern alien, you know, we've heard about the alien abductions, right? And, um,

They often involve the reproductive experiments. You know, you hear people that say, you know, maybe they were pregnant by these. I mean, it all sounds nuts, but reproductive experiments, hybrid children, genetic manipulation. I mean, are these aliens really continuing the watchers forbidden mission to reshape humanity in their image? Or is it the watchers is, are they still around? And then you think about Nephilim bloodlines, you know, did they survive? Yeah.

And there's, including myself, a lot of people that believe the Nephilim survived the flood. Either through corrupted bloodlines or, you know, think about like Goliath and Anakim. Or by re-manifesting through occult rituals or secret societies, which is what we talked about as well. Well, and when you're talking about aliens, you know, a lot of people believe in reptilians. Could reptilians be the Nephilim?

Well, there has been a lot of talk about that. These watchers had reptilians, scales, reptilian eyes, fishy scales or whatever the case is. There's been a lot of that, but we don't know. And, you know, who knows today they may actually walk among us cloaked in power. You think about this, even with the book of Enoch.

They talked about continuously that these Nephilim, they didn't look, you might think of Nephilim as looking like some kind of weird monster, but Nephilim did not look like weird monsters. They were giants. They were huge. And oftentimes they were described as very good looking monsters.

These men that were very strong, had huge muscles. They were like eight to nine feet tall in some cases. They were the most masculine alpha males that you would probably ever see ever. I mean, if they made a movie on...

The Nephilim, it would depict these guys as like Mark Wahlberg. That is like 10 foot tall, has the biggest muscles or, you know, some type of bodybuilder. This is what they would look like. So it's not to say that just because they are part of,

you know, supernatural part watcher, part human that they're going to look like monsters. They don't, they actually take on the characteristics of the women that the watchers inhabited with or had sex with fornicated with the same way that like, if you have sex or, you know, have a baby with someone that has red hair and maybe the genetics go to that red hair. Well, uh,

the same way that Nephilim kind of spread around the world. There were Nephilim that may have had red hair. There were Nephilim that may have had blonde hair, you know, depending on the region or the area that they were born. And some believe that obviously that they survived the flood and today they may walk among us. And that is what a lot of people have talked about. Now,

The slow drip of UFO disclosure by governments could be part of the long game narrative. The ultimate goal is to reintroduce the watchers to humanity, not as fallen angels, but as like ancient extraterrestrial benefactors. Do you, you know, with everybody, James talking about, you know, this UFO thing, maybe being spiritual in nature.

Do you think at all that the UFO phenomenon or even just ancient UFO encounters? I mean, we're talking about Roswell. That's not ancient, but go back to Egypt. Go back to all of the things they have on the cave walls. Go back to the pictographs or the or all of the evidence we've ever had for any type of UFO encounters in history ever.

Could this have all been because of the Watchers? And maybe that's what we're still experiencing today.

In a sense, I kind of think you're onto something because they do want to deceive you no matter what form they're in. They want to deceive you. That's what they want. But then, too, we've got to think whenever the Watchers came and they traded the men for the women, what did they trade? They could have traded technology. We know they traded skills, things like that. They taught us things. But then they...

They could have given us technology. So that's why, too, like a lot of the stuff that we have, it could be just the things that they told us and the people that could be the elite, you know, consider themselves the elite people.

are the people that have this documentation, whatever it may be, on how to create these things, how to manipulate the environment, you know, all these. But it's dark stuff. Don't get me wrong. What they're doing, and I think you can even agree, look at the world, like whatever they're doing, it's dark stuff. Mm-hmm.

Yeah, I mean, I think even if you go back to the, you know, to these days of Enoch, you know, that was one of the main things that they did so well was they figured out how to manipulate the population. And they knew they said, hey, well, we have to make sure that we control the food, control what they believe or think. We have to control all aspects of their society. And this and this way, I think this this is like the original game plan of the elites.

Yeah. And I mean, you're absolutely right. So it's like, you know, it's, it's almost kind of like the elite, you know, whoever's in control right now, it's almost like they found, they found, uh, they found a manuscript or something somewhere like a one-on-one, this is how to take over, you know, and it was probably the same exact system. I actually guarantee.

It's the same exact system that the Nephilim used, that the Watchers used, because that's the same exact system that the Beast is using, you know? Well, I mean, I think it goes back to even, you know, we did an episode on the Pope and the Vatican and the secret archives. Like, what are they really hiding there? And why do we even have a Pope? You know, it's like the Pope is supposed to be or has always kind of been the ruler or the authoritarian figure of the Christian church or the belief that

And, you know, I saw a post from a pastor the other day that says, I don't need the Pope, I have Jesus Christ. But it's also interesting how the Vatican and the secret archives seems to hide a lot of information. And there's many people that know for sure that the secret archives of the Vatican are

maybe actually have some of the mission chapters of the book of Enoch, which is also interesting. I know that the, from what many scholars believe in historians, they think that the Vatican secret archives actually housed the book of Enoch before, or at least I guess during the time that's the, the guy that brought, you know, brought to light the book of Enoch from the Ethiopian Bible. Yeah. James Bruce, uh,

Well, the Vatican Secret Archive already had that. But we also don't know what what else the Secret Archive has. Like, what else are they hiding? That's why the big conspiracy has always been like, what does the Secret Archive know about UFOs and aliens? And I think that UFOs and aliens are 100 percent connected to the.

you know, to the watchers, to the Nephilim, to these demigods as what we've spiritual. Yeah, absolutely. I believe for sure. It's spiritual. I think that the storyline has already been told throughout history. I think it's there, but I also think that to the point of like, Hey, here's the Bible, 66 books is canonical. This is the only thing you're supposed to believe. Um,

Although I do believe the Bible tries to go back to Enoch 1 to tell you certain things about Enoch 1, almost as if it's like, hey, we're not necessarily going to put Enoch 1 or Enoch in general into the Bible, but we're going to reference it continually. It makes people want to read the book of Enoch. They take so much from the book of Enoch that

It's almost saying without saying that the book of Enoch matters, if that makes any sense. Yeah, that's kind of, you know, you're kind of on the same space as I'm at. It's like, again, like I said in the beginning, is I don't think I'll ever go as far as the, you know, call it scripture. But I do think it is absolutely beneficial. I think it, you know, it shows us, it absolutely shows us what the Jews believed in.

In the Old Testament, you know, like the ancient Jews, like because they read it, they probably believed it. That's how they saw their history, you know? So, I mean, it's beneficial, but I don't think I'll ever go as far to call it scripture. But I don't think, again, with that, I don't think it teaches anything new.

At least Enoch 1, I don't think it teaches anything that would go against scripture. And I think, too, the reason why it doesn't really matter to you one way or another is it doesn't teach you salvation. It doesn't teach you how to get to Jesus. There's just references within the Bible, but you don't really need Enoch in order to have salvation is what I think I'm hearing from you.

Exactly. There's nothing in any knock that he never goes, you know, like this is this is how you get to know God. This is how you get saved. Nothing like that. Like he is literally just telling a story.

And I know it sounds just I mean, it's like a broken record. And the reason why I wanted to start with Enoch was because of the fantastical story of the Watchers and the Nephilim. When we think today of UFOs or aliens or supernatural beings or this other world or interdimensional concepts of reality that I think that most people go about their daily lives thinking

and they go to work, they come home, they make dinner, they have kids, they have a husband and wife, they go to sleep, they wake up, they do the same thing over and over and over again. But yet there's always one question to everyone's mind that is like, why do we do this every day? Is there something else out there? Is there another reality? And I think personally, that when you start actually bringing in the book of Enoch, it shows you that there is

more than likely another reality than what we just are mundanely told or made to do on a daily basis. Um,

And I know that like it's interesting to me because that was one of the kind of the discussions we had the past few days as far as like some people believe that, hey, I should read everything other than just the Bible. And I think that by reading everything other than just the Bible, I think it does allow people to open their minds up a little more. There's a lot of people that read the Bible and they say, well, there's so many stories I don't understand. A lot of this stuff doesn't make sense. Even with Enoch and the flood, I think if you read Enoch,

even with that storyline, whether you agree or disagree as a Christian, you know, it makes more sense about the flood than what, how the Bible describes it necessarily. But,

I think there are a lot of books that they should not have left out. I think they left them out for a reason, because I think that they want, in my mind, they want to constrict our minds, to constrict our thinking and our reality to only what we are told to do on a daily basis. You are to work for the man, work for the system, be controlled by the power. And that's exactly what has happened since Enoch.

That is what the watchers came down to do. They controlled mankind. They controlled them through manipulation, through power. And then they commanded their Nephilim, which is why they procreated with the women. They knew that the only way we had an in to the humans was to procreate with them, to share the bloodline of them to where we could then have this kind of evil bloodline in mankind. And so,

Then they became the kings. They were the rulers because they were bigger than everybody. They were stronger than everybody. They would murder, you know, hundreds of people. There's actually something I saw the other day. There's been this meme going out. It says, what would a hundred men do to one gorilla? Right. That's been a big meme going around. It's like, could a hundred men defeat one gorilla? Right.

And so if you think about that meme, that's the same way you would think about a Nephilim. A Nephilim, one Nephilim of a thousand men would probably a thousand men be destroyed. And so these watchers knew that they had to procreate and they had to make these things giants and they had to rule and they had to have this ultimate rule of mankind. And I think today we still have that structure. Now, I'm not saying that we should not have law and order. I'm not even necessarily saying we should not have government or any of that stuff.

But I do think that the corruption in government and corruption in power is absolutely connected and tied in some ways, even back to the Watchers and Nephilim. I think that people that are in power are often corrupted, and I think they want power absolutely. You have people in power long enough.

They're going to become corrupted. But you said they had to do these things. Well, they had to do these things in order to go against God. And we got to keep that in mind. That's the only reason why they did these things is because they wanted to go to God, go against God and become their own gods here on earth. Yeah. Well, they had to create an army. It was an Ephraim army. They had to create more of them. I mean, they only had 200 of them as it was that came down. And so what they did was they,

had sex with women to then make more of them, even though it was not fully all of them. But these Nephilim did have powers that the humans did not. They were much stronger, much bigger, and they had supernatural characteristics.

They were demigods. Yeah, and I could see how humans would idolize these type of beings. Well, you have to, because if you don't, you get killed. And that's what Nephilim did. They ate the people. Once the people started realizing that, oh, shit, they're taking all their food. Yeah, they're taking all their food. It's nuts. This story of Enoch is crazy, but...

The reason why we want to do this episode as an introduction episode is just to introduce you to what Enoch is. Enoch is the story of the Watchers, which are an angelic being force that came down from heaven. They were rebellious angels to God. They came down. They had sex with women. They created Nephilim, which became giants. And then there was a flood to wipe out all the giants and all of the Watchers, even though they'd never wiped out the Watchers because the Watchers could not necessarily have been wiped out. And the same of humans. Right.

So they sent archangels down to bind the watchers into shul. And even many people believe to this day that Nephilim did not all die out after the flood, nor do they believe that the watchers died out. And I think that if you get to these storylines, whether it be Tucker Carlson, whether it be Sean Ryan, whether it be any of these people saying what they believe about UFOs and the UAP phenomenon going on right now,

I think it is spiritual. I do think it is demonic or a battle between the good versus evil. I think we are seeing that manifested. And I do potentially think that they could be on this earth as it is.

especially if you start thinking about the little caverns that they said that they have down in earth. And, you know, we, we see these UFOs or these craft that are coming from the ocean on a regular basis, the hollow earth, the concept, the hollow earth. We did the hollow earth, uh, general, it was Admiral bird from the air force. I think it was back in the, was it forties? Well, hell he was on camera saying that he was in Antarctica. He went into this cavern, uh, in an airplane. He saw this hollow earth, this magnificent area, uh,

He wrote it in a journal. He went on television and said it. Could this be part of it? Is that why Antarctica is so secretive? We don't know. But at the very least, James, if you think about Enoch one or just the book of Enoch in general, and even the old Testament, and you think about how it describes giants, well, the people that say that they see these things in the sky, or they have these experiences, they,

maybe they're not so crazy is what I'm saying. No, I don't think absolutely not. I mean, I've even seen things in the sky, you know, but to, but to say, you know who it is, that's just where I get caught up in it. Like I know, I know there's stuff there. I know stuff's going on, but I would almost put it on like it being like,

Not even just our technology, but it's somebody's technology. And what they're trying to do is they're trying to not just scare us, but confuse us. Yeah. I think that's what's happening. It could be. It absolutely could be. But I think that as we go through this journey, we're going to go through the biblical storyline. This is something that we struggle with all the time. Sherry and I do. You know that, James. We're always on Telegram asking questions, talking about the Bible, talking about our spiritual journey.

And for anybody out there that wants to kind of join that, go to Telegram, find us, investigate earth conspiracy podcast. You can find it on Telegram. Just download the app. It's pretty easy. And when you see us go live, come say, Hey, uh, we're in there. We're very friendly. Most of the time. Yeah.

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This is a hard topic, guys, and I hope that we did the very best we could trying to explain like what the book of Enoch is, because that is the hardest thing. We're not experts. We are not you know, we're not scholars. We're not any of that stuff. I have been reading for months.

And it's still hard to put together in a storyline of what it actually is. I have not been reading for months, but I think I got it. Yeah. Well, even reading for months, it's like it almost confuses you more. And it's like, how do I say all of the things I've just read? It's really hard. But the baseline of what I have read for three months is basically what we just told you. James, do you want anybody to follow you anywhere? Do you want to shout out any social media? Yeah.

You can, if you need to ask questions or want to talk, you can come find me in the telegram group, or I do also have a blog I started like last month. I'm uploading posts like every other day and that's 404found.blog. And you can even, I even have an email address on there that you can contact me at. So all that good stuff.

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