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306 - I Never Thought of it That Way - Mónica Guzmán (rebroadcast)

2025/2/3
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David McRaney: 许多人认为有效的沟通方式实际上会适得其反,羞辱、疏远或威胁关系并不能有效地改变他人的想法。我们应该尝试理解他人的观点,而不是试图说服他们。Mónica Guzmán 的新书《我从未想过那样》提供了在两极分化的政治环境中进行建设性对话的实用建议,旨在帮助人们学习如何与持有不同观点的人进行更有效的沟通,并建立一种双方都能从中学习的互动模式。 Mónica Guzmán: Braver Angels 组织致力于通过跨党派合作,寻找超越分歧和敌意的途径,促进美国去极化。在2016年大选后,我感受到来自社会各界的压力,要求我在政治上明确立场,但我认为这无法完整地反映城市的多元化和复杂性,因此开始探索如何进行更有效的跨越分歧的沟通。社交媒体上“取关不同意见者”的现象反映了极化程度的加剧,这种做法无法改变人们的想法,反而会损害合作。与持有有害观点的人沟通存在争议,但与其回避,不如尝试理解其观点背后的原因,这有助于改变观念,降低焦虑,并避免对他人观点的过度负面解读。好奇心是一种给予,它不仅能帮助我们自身学习成长,更能促进人与人之间的连接和理解。即使是跨越巨大分歧的对话,也可能会有令人愉悦和发现的时刻。恐惧会阻碍创造力和合作,而对他人观点的误解会加剧焦虑,因此,我们需要克服恐惧,尝试理解他人。

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This chapter explores the importance of having conversations with those who hold opposing views, and introduces Mónica Guzmán's work with Braver Angels, an organization dedicated to depolarizing America through dialogue and understanding. It emphasizes the ineffectiveness of shaming or distancing in persuading others and advocates for a more curious approach.
  • Ineffective tactics: shaming, distancing, relationship threats
  • Braver Angels: largest cross-partisan organization for depolarization
  • Focus on truth and understanding across divides

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This episode’s guest is Mónica Guzmán, the author of I Never Thought of It That Way – a book with very practical advice on how to have productive conversations in a polarized political environment via authentic curiosity about where people’s beliefs, opinions, attitudes, and values come from. It's also about how to learn from those with whom we disagree by establishing the sort of dynamic in which they will eagerly learn from us as well.

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