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After Hot Jobs Data, Focus Turns to Earnings, CPIv

2025/1/13
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Keith Lansford: 我是凯斯·兰斯福德,这是1月13日星期一的市场早报。美国国债收益率是股市的领涨指标,本周重要的通胀数据即将公布,但从周三开始的银行财报可能会分散注意力。周五美国12月就业增长数据导致收益率飙升,股价跌至11月大选以来的最低水平。因为明日早间将公布12月生产者物价指数(PPI),周三将公布12月消费者物价指数(CPI),国债可能继续主导市场走势。上周五强劲的美国就业报告显示劳动力市场具有韧性,市场的失望反应再次证实,目前对华尔街来说,好消息仍然是坏消息。但情况并非总是如此。如果出现通胀方面的不利消息,也可能被视为对股市的不利消息。对PPI和CPI的早期预期相对温和,甚至从利率角度来看略微有利,不过投资者应该记住,由于2024年初通胀增长出人意料地强劲,未来几个月与欧元区的比较将会更容易。根据Trading Economics的数据,分析师预计PPI和核心PPI的月度增长率分别为0.3%和0.2%。核心PPI剔除了波动较大的食品和能源价格。11月份的数据分别为0.4%和0.2%。分析师预计CPI和核心CPI分别为0.3%和-0.1%。11月份的数据均为0.3%。此类数据可能会略微抑制美国国债收益率在过去一个月飙升后的涨势,但对通胀的担忧可能会持续存在,部分原因与新政府提出的关税和移民政策有关,该政策将于一周后生效。非农就业人数报告显示就业增长25.6万,失业率意外降至4.1%,这也给国债带来了压力。但更深入地分析该报告表明,情况并非完全一边倒,单一数据点无法确定通胀是否反弹。从行业角度来看,能源类股周五上涨,但市场其他板块下跌。利率敏感型板块(包括必需消费品、房地产和金融板块)跌幅最大,而信息技术和其他增长型板块(包括非必需消费品)也因对借贷环境的担忧而遭受重创。莱纳和KB家居等房地产类股因担心高利率可能使房地产市场持续低迷而暴跌。从技术角度来看,标普500指数周五尾盘企稳,收于100日移动均线上方(略低于5820点)。然而,这险胜,该指数盘中一度跌破该水平。本周能否继续守住这条防线,对市场走势至关重要。标普500指数下跌91.21点,跌幅为1.54%,收于5827.04点,本周跌幅为1.94%。道琼斯工业平均指数下跌696.75点,跌幅为1.63%,收于41938.45点,本周跌幅为1.86%。纳斯达克综合指数下跌317.25点,跌幅为1.63%,收于19161.63点,本周跌幅为2.34%。 Kevin Gordon: 鉴于强劲的招聘和较低的工资增长,12月份的就业报告中几乎没有通胀迹象。但鉴于收益率飙升,负面市场反应并不令人意外,收益率变化与股价之间的相关性已恢复为负相关。因此,目前市场认为较高的利率与较高的通胀相一致。虽然人们的天性是推断就业数据并预期美联储将长期暂停加息,但在这一点上,投资者不应该对此抱有太大的信心,主要是因为在1月20日之前我们不会得到任何具体的政策信息,届时新政府将上任,并提供有关关税和移民计划的线索。对这些政策方面的担忧也加剧了对通胀的担忧。 Nathan Peterson: 对多头来说,好消息是经济强劲,这可能有助于企业盈利增长,而且美国经济在过去几年中已经证明,它可以在高利率环境下维持运转。这将在本财报季接受考验。由于收益率曲线攀升,银行预计将在周三以相对强劲的态势拉开序幕。这可以提高净利息收入,即银行贷款收入减去支付给客户的利息。然而,不同行业的收入构成有所不同。如果利率长期保持高位,则严重依赖零售和公司贷款的银行可能会遭受损失,因为高利率可能会抑制企业和消费者活动。另一个值得关注的领域是投资银行业务,近期较高的利率可能会限制并购和首次公开募股(IPO)活动。

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Why did Treasury yields rise and stocks tumble after the December jobs report?

The December jobs report showed robust job growth of 256,000 and a drop in unemployment to 4.1%, signaling a resilient labor market. However, this good news was interpreted as bad news for Wall Street because it reinforced expectations of higher inflation and potential Fed rate hikes, leading to a spike in Treasury yields and a sell-off in stocks.

What are the expectations for the December Producer Price Index (PPI) and Consumer Price Index (CPI)?

Analysts expect the December PPI to show 0.3% monthly growth, with Core PPI (excluding food and energy) at 0.2%. For CPI, expectations are 0.3% monthly growth, while Core CPI is anticipated to show a slight decline of 0.1%. These figures are relatively benign but could influence Treasury yields and inflation concerns.

How did the December jobs report impact expectations for Fed rate cuts?

The strong jobs report reduced the likelihood of Fed rate cuts in 2024. The CME FedWatch tool indicates a high probability of just one rate cut in 2025, likely in the second half of the year. However, futures trading still suggests a 25% chance of a rate cut in the first quarter of 2024.

What sectors were most affected by the recent market sell-off?

Rate-sensitive sectors like staples, real estate, and financials were among the hardest hit. Growth sectors, including infotech and consumer discretionary, also suffered due to concerns about higher borrowing costs. Housing stocks, such as Lenar and KB Home, faced significant pressure as higher rates could dampen real estate activity.

How did the S&P 500 perform during the recent market downturn?

The S&P 500 lost 91.21 points, or 1.54%, closing at 5,827.04. It was down 1.94% for the week, narrowly finishing above the 100-day moving average, which is a key technical level for market direction.

What role do bank earnings play in the current market environment?

Bank earnings, starting Wednesday, could provide a distraction from inflation concerns. Higher yields may boost net interest income for banks, benefiting those with strong lending operations. However, banks with heavy exposure to retail and corporate lending might struggle if high rates persist, as borrowing activity could decline.

What are the potential implications of the new U.S. administration's policies on inflation?

The new administration's proposed tariff and immigration policies could exacerbate inflation fears. These policies may lead to higher costs for goods and services, adding to existing concerns about inflation and its impact on the economy and financial markets.

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This week's key economic indicators, PPI and CPI, will be closely watched. Analyst predictions suggest relatively benign growth, but lingering inflation concerns remain, potentially influenced by the new administration's policies. Treasury yields are expected to react to these figures.
  • PPI and CPI data releases are crucial this week.
  • Analyst expectations for PPI and CPI are relatively benign.
  • Inflation concerns persist, partly due to the new administration's policies.

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Welcome to the Schwab Market Update podcast, where we prepare you for each trading day with a recap of recent news and a look at what's ahead. I'm Keith Lansford, and here's Schwab's early look at the markets for Monday, January 13th. Treasury yields remain the pace setter for stocks with key inflation data ahead this week, but bank earnings starting Wednesday could provide distraction.

Friday's U.S. December jobs growth sent yields spinning higher and stocks tumbling to their lowest levels since the November election. Treasuries could continue calling the shots because tomorrow morning features the December Producer Price Index, or PPI, and Wednesday brings the December Consumer Price Index, or CPI.

Last Friday's robust U.S. jobs report showed resilience in the labor market, and the market's disappointed response reaffirmed that for now, good news remains bad news for Wall Street. But it doesn't work both ways. Bad news on inflation, if it comes, would likely be seen as bad news for stocks, too.

Early expectations for PPI and CPI appear relatively benign and even somewhat constructive from a rate standpoint, though investors should remember that Eurovier comparisons get easier in coming months thanks to surprisingly firm inflation growth in early 2024.

For PPI and Core PPI, analysts expect 0.3% and 0.2% monthly growth, respectively, according to Trading Economics. Core extracts volatile food and energy prices. The readings for November were 0.4% and 0.2%. For CPI and Core CPI, analysts expect 0.3% and negative 0.1%, according to Trading Economics. The figures were both 0.3% in November.

Readings like these might cool off Treasury yields slightly after they skyrocketed over the last month, but worries about inflation would likely persist, some related to the proposed tariff and immigration policies promised by the new U.S. administration that takes over a week from today.

The nonfarm payrolls report showing jobs growth of 256,000 and unemployment unexpectedly dropping to 4.1% remains a source of pressure on Treasuries too. But poring over the report in more depth shows that it's not necessarily one-sided, and a single data point can't determine if inflation rebounds.

There isn't much of an inflationary fingerprint in the December jobs report, given robust hiring and cooler wage growth. But the negative market reaction is not a surprise, given the spike in yield, said Kevin Gordon, director and senior investment strategist at Schwab. The correlation between changes in yields and stock prices has flipped back into negative territory. So for now, the market is assuming higher rates will be consistent with higher inflation.

Odds of Fed rate cuts this year dove after the data, with the CME FedWatch tool recently putting high likelihood of just one rate trim in 2025, likely in the second half of the year. However, futures trading still builds in about a 25% chance of a rate cut in the first quarter. The January meeting is expected to result in a rate pause.

Even though it's human nature to extrapolate the jobs data and expect the Fed to be on a prolonged pause, investors shouldn't have high conviction either way at this point, mostly because we won't get any policy meat on the bones until January 20th, Schwab's Gordon said. That's when the new administration takes office, providing clues on tariff and immigration plans. Worries about those aspects of policy also play into inflation fears.

December jobs growth was concentrated in health care and government, but retail made a comeback after falling in November. This could reflect strong holiday shopping demand, a positive sign for the economy. What's being somewhat ignored amid the hand-wringing over yields is the labor market's ability so far to weather high yields.

The good news for the bulls is that the economy is strong, which could help corporate earnings growth, and the U.S. economy has demonstrated over the past couple of years that it can hold up in a higher-rate environment, said Nathan Peterson, director of derivatives analysis at the Schwab Center for Financial Research. That could get tested this earnings season. Banks are expected to kick things off Wednesday in relatively strong fashion, thanks partly to a climbing yield curve.

This can boost net interest income or what banks make on lending minus what they pay to customers. However, the breakdown of revenue streams differs across the sector. Banks with heavy exposure to retail and corporate lending might suffer if rates stay higher for longer because high rates can suppress business and consumer activity. Another area to watch is investment banking, where recent higher rates might limit mergers and acquisitions and initial public offering or IPO activity.

From a sector standpoint, energy managed like gains Friday, but the rest of the market turned tail. Rate-sensitive sectors, including staples, real estate, and financials were near the bottom of the list, while infotech and other growth sectors, including consumer discretionary, also got slammed by worries about the borrowing climate. Housing stocks like Lenar and KB Home took it on the chin amid worries higher rates could keep the real estate market in a deep freeze.

KB Home reports later today, offering investors a closer look at demand for new homes. Technically, the S&P 500 index made a late stand Friday and managed to finish above the 100-day moving average, which sits just below 5,820. It was a close call, however, with the index dipping below that intraday. Ability to continue defending that line in the sand could be important for direction this week.

The S&P 500 index surrendered 91.21 points or 1.54% to 5,827.04, down 1.94% for the week. The Dow Jones Industrial Average lost 696.75 points or 1.63% to 41,938.45 and was down 1.86% for the week.

And the Nasdaq Composite gave back 317.25 points, or 1.63%, to 19,161.63, losing 2.34% during the week. This has been the Schwab Market Update Podcast.

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