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Churn goes the labor market

2025/6/5
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Andy Challenger
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Chirag Shah
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Chris Maturne
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Daniel Thomas
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Jonathan Pingel
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Kyle Risdahl
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Richard Lodgeman
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Sharon O'Halloran
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Stephen Juno
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Ted Mortensen
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Jonathan Pingel: 作为一名经济学家，我认为劳动力流动在健康的经济中扮演着重要的角色。它就像一个匹配器，帮助求职者和雇主找到更合适的工作。虽然被裁员对个人来说很糟糕，但它也是经济周期的一部分。在健康的经济中，裁员通常会被新的工作机会所抵消，从而保持市场的活力。 Andy Challenger: 作为 Challenger Gray & Christmas 的代表，我更倾向于认为当前的裁员现象预示着经济可能面临衰退。我们现在看到的裁员类型，通常只会在经济不景气时出现。而且，这些裁员更多地影响到高收入人群，如管理层。如果这种情况持续下去，很可能会蔓延到整个劳动力市场，加剧经济的不确定性。此外，公司在裁员后往往会面临员工士气低落和生产力下降的问题。 Stephen Juno: 作为美国银行全球研究部的高级经济学家，我对劳动力市场的看法相对乐观。我认为目前的劳动力流动性并非不健康的迹象。事实上，美国经济每月平均新增超过15万个就业岗位，这表明劳动力市场是稳定和健康的。我更关注失业者找到新工作所需的时间，因为只有当他们最终找到合适的新工作时，劳动力流动才能真正促进经济发展。

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Unemployment filings and layoffs are rising, and private sector hiring hit a two-year low, recent reports show. Is it just healthy turnover or should we be worried about the direction the labor market is headed? For now, analysts are split. Also in this episode: Reddit sues an AI firm for scraping its user data and Kai spends more time in Utah County with ADP’s Nela Richardson exploring the obstacles and opportunities that come with a young population.

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