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EP82 个人养老金实施两年了,观望/开通/存钱/买产品,你到哪一步了?

2024/12/16
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关哥:个人养老金制度并非单纯的节税工具,而是鼓励个人积极参与养老储备的政策。其优势在于普世性强,每年缴纳金额无强制要求,但需根据个人财务状况谨慎决策。账户资金流动性差,适合财务状况稳定、有长期养老规划的人群。 个人养老金账户的税收优惠政策,让高收入人群也能从中受益,但其主要目标是提升全民养老意识,鼓励个人增加养老储备。 在产品选择方面,关哥建议根据个人风险承受能力和对现金流的需求选择合适的养老产品。临近退休的人群可以选择存款产品;追求高收益但能承受风险的人群可以选择基金产品;而保险产品则与个人养老金账户的特性最为匹配,尤其适合追求长期稳定收益的人群。 关哥还强调,个人养老金账户只是养老规划的一部分,需要结合其他养老储备方式,例如商业养老保险等,才能构建完整的养老体系。 七七:个人养老金账户是一个税收优惠的专款专用账户,每年最高可存入12000元,资金可用于购买养老保险、养老基金、养老理财或养老存款产品,退休后才能取出,并需缴纳3%的税。 目前,个人养老金账户的产品种类丰富,但选择也较为复杂。开户后未缴费或缴费后未购买产品的情况普遍存在,主要人群是30-40岁中高收入人群。 七七结合自身情况,分析了个人养老金账户的优势和不足。其优势在于税收优惠和强制储蓄,但不足之处在于资金流动性差,退休前无法取出。 七七认为,选择个人养老金账户产品应根据个人目标和风险承受能力而定。她本人在已有社保和商业养老金的基础上,选择购买了专属商业养老金和税优护理险,并计划在个人养老金账户中选择长期储蓄型产品,以补充养老金存量。

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What are the key benefits of opening a personal pension account?

The key benefits of opening a personal pension account include tax savings and the ability to build a retirement fund. Contributions to the account can be deducted from taxable income, potentially saving between 360 to 5400 yuan annually depending on the individual's tax bracket. Additionally, the account serves as a disciplined way to save for retirement, with funds growing tax-deferred until withdrawal at retirement age.

How many people have opened personal pension accounts in China?

Over 60 million people have opened personal pension accounts in China. However, a significant number of these accounts remain unfunded, with many individuals not yet contributing money or purchasing products within the accounts.

What types of products are available in personal pension accounts?

Personal pension accounts offer four main types of products: pension deposits, pension funds, pension wealth management products, and pension insurance products. As of November, there are over 800 products available, including more than 400 pension deposits, around 200 pension funds, 26 pension wealth management products, and 144 pension insurance products.

What is the maximum annual contribution to a personal pension account?

The maximum annual contribution to a personal pension account is 12,000 yuan. This amount can be adjusted based on an individual's financial situation, with no minimum contribution required.

What is the tax rate applied when withdrawing funds from a personal pension account?

When withdrawing funds from a personal pension account at retirement age, a 3% tax is applied on the total amount withdrawn. This tax is part of the tax-deferred benefit, where contributions are deducted from taxable income upfront.

Who is the target audience for personal pension accounts?

The target audience for personal pension accounts includes individuals with a need for tax savings and those who are planning for retirement. It is particularly beneficial for middle to high-income earners aged 30 to 50, as they can achieve significant tax savings and have a clearer retirement planning goal.

What are the main challenges with personal pension accounts?

The main challenges with personal pension accounts include the lack of flexibility, as funds cannot be withdrawn until retirement age, and the complexity of choosing from over 800 available products. Additionally, many people open accounts but do not contribute funds or purchase products, limiting the benefits they can receive.

How does the personal pension account compare to commercial pension insurance?

The personal pension account offers tax advantages and is designed specifically for retirement savings, with funds locked until retirement age. In contrast, commercial pension insurance provides more flexibility in terms of when benefits can be accessed and may offer additional features like death benefits or guaranteed payouts. However, commercial pension insurance does not offer the same tax-deferred benefits as personal pension accounts.

What is the expected retirement savings from a personal pension account?

If an individual contributes the maximum 12,000 yuan annually for 20 years with an average annual return of 3%, they can expect to accumulate around 320,000 yuan by retirement. Higher returns, such as 4%, could increase this amount to approximately 356,000 yuan, though these are ideal scenarios.

What are the key considerations for young people when deciding whether to open a personal pension account?

Young people should consider their current financial stability, long-term retirement goals, and the flexibility of their funds before opening a personal pension account. Since the account locks funds until retirement, it may not be suitable for those who anticipate needing access to their money in the near future. Additionally, young individuals should evaluate whether the tax savings and retirement benefits align with their financial priorities.

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两年过去了,个人养老金制度发展如何?超过6000万人开户,但开而未缴和缴而未买的情况普遍存在。目前共有800多种产品,主要包括养老存款、基金、理财和保险四类。
  • 超过6000万人开立个人养老金账户
  • 开而未缴和缴而未买的情况普遍存在
  • 目前共有800多种产品,四类产品共计800多种

Shownotes Transcript

这期节目我们想和大家再聊聊“个人养老金制度”。

相信大家对这项养老保险制度并不陌生,早在其落地之初,我们就对它的基本制度安排进行了解读。关于个人养老金制度是什么,如何存、如何领、有哪些好处等问题,都可以在EP45期)节目中找到答案。

而这次老话新谈,主要是想借助“个人养老金制度全面实施”的契机,看看经过两年时间,“个人养老金制度”有了哪些新的变化?在国家大力推进养老保险体系建设的前提下,个人养老金账户中新增的各类储蓄、理财和保险产品,能否在我们的养老或财务规划中派上用场?希望通过对这些养老制度的持续关注,与大家一起去探索和计划适合自己的养老模式。

⌛时间轴

03:11个人养老金的一些要点复习

06:29两年之后,现状如何?

06:50① 超 6000 万人开户

**07:15 **② 开而未缴、缴而未买

**09:49 **③ 目前四类共 800 多种产品

13:02具体好处:节税 + 养老金储备

13:21① 最高能省多少税?

**14:00 **② 最终能存多少钱?

17:09它作为养老储备的合理预期是怎样的?

20:34到底什么样的人适合买?

22:36容易混淆的一些概念:

**23:39 **① 个人养老金(账户)

**24:04 **② 税优健康险(产品)

25:43③ 专属商业养老年金(产品)

28:07「退休才能取」真的是问题吗?

**28:19 **① 对比商业养老保险

29:40② 强纪律性

**30:05 **③ 财务状况要求

31:43④ 投资/产品偏好

33:44年轻人应该如何考虑要不要买?

35:53关哥是如何组建养老金体系的?

39:28产品这么多,到底要如何选?

**39:50 **① 存款保守,更适合临退休人群

**40:14 **② 基金上下限高,但丰富度有限

41:44③ 保险作为存量养老金更有优势

44:44个养,终究只是养老/财务规划的一部分

50:13最后,回答一些听众提问:

**50:22 **① 存钱之外,还需要额外操作吗?

**51:08 **② 不同渠道,可选的产品一样吗?

💡资料补充

1. 个人养老金制度介绍 2. “个人养老金制度”的节税优势

不同收入对应的个人所得税税率不同,所以买个人养老金的抵税金额也会不同。

下表是按用满12000元的额度计算得出的抵税金额,可以参考下👇 但是别忘了哈,咱们的个人养老金并不是完全不用交税的,它是税延险,领取时候需要再缴3%的税。

如果你有更多关于“个人养老金制度”的疑问,推荐阅读文章:

**1. **五分钟带你读懂个人养老金)

2.** 这抵税方式也太硬核了**)

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