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ASPI's Justin Bassi on the latest 'Cost of Defence' report

2025/5/30
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Justin Bassi: 我认为戴维很好地阐述了战略环境,以及为什么总是需要在战略环境的背景下看待国防预算。早在2013年,澳大利亚和其他国家就将GDP的2%作为国防开支的目标。然而,自那时以来,国际局势发生了重大变化,包括俄罗斯入侵乌克兰、中东冲突以及中国在该地区的崛起。这些变化使得澳大利亚面临自二战以来最危险的时期。因此,我们需要增加国防开支,以应对这些日益增长的威胁。虽然澳大利亚的国防开支有所增加,但增加的幅度还不够,无法满足当前的需求。我们需要在廉价、大规模生产的能力(如无人机和反无人机)方面进行更多投资,并加快部署综合防空和导弹防御系统。此外,AUKUS伙伴关系至关重要,因为它能确保我们与盟友共同发展,应对技术变革。中国正在发展这些平台,如果不发展,中国技术可能会取代我们的优势。国防投资的战略目的是为了避免战争,是为了威慑战争。历史经验表明,对国防投资不足会降低威慑力,鼓励侵略者为所欲为,最终导致冲突或战争。政府需要让公众了解国防投资的重要性,沟通策略和叙事与能力同样重要。我们需要坦诚地告诉社会,世界并不安全,我们需要采取行动,尽一切可能避免澳大利亚卷入冲突。 David Rowe: 目前国防预算的增加,并没有充分考虑到增加的轨迹。国防战略评估报告指出,国防资金的增加应与战略环境相适应。澳大利亚首次正式提出将GDP的2%作为国防开支目标是在2013年。2013年的战略环境与现在相比已经大不相同。所以澳大利亚的国防开支需要根据战略环境进行调整,包括总额和支出时间。国防开支的战略目的是什么?我们希望用这些钱在未来实现什么?国防不仅仅是军队的事情,而是一个全国性的责任。我们需要共同努力,提高国家的准备和韧性,这涉及到我们所有2700万人。

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This chapter sets the stage by highlighting the increasingly volatile global landscape and the inadequacy of the previous 'regional stability' approach. It emphasizes the impact of global conflicts on Australia and introduces Australia's defence spending in the context of evolving strategic circumstances. The discussion lays the groundwork for examining whether current spending aligns with the heightened risks.
  • Shift from regional stability to regaining stability
  • Impacts of war in Europe and the Middle East on Australia
  • China's actions affecting Australia (circumnavigation, live fire exercises, Taiwan pressure, South China Sea aggression, cyberattacks)
  • 2% of GDP defence spending target's origins in 2013, its inadequacy in the current context

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ASPI this week released our annual Cost of Defence report, which assesses how Australia’s investment in defence matches the strategic challenges the nation faces. 

 

In this special episode, ASPI’s executive director Justin Bassi runs through some of the key points of the report: how much we need to be spending, how fast, and on which capabilities. The strategic environment in which 2 percent of GDP was normalised as a benchmark is long behind us, Justin says. A “business‑as‑usual approach” is no longer enough.

Find ASPI's latest Cost of Defence report here).