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Xi and Biden Meet at APEC

2023/11/13
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Ian Chong: 我认为目前华盛顿和北京都在试图说服新加坡的决策者和公众,他们各自的立场更有道理。北京方面倾向于强调美国行动的非法性,以及伴随这些行为和声明的挑衅,并且会诉诸民族主义情绪,因为新加坡约70%的人口是华人。当然,种族背景并不一定意味着政治忠诚,但中国共产党倾向于强调这一点。而美国方面,他们更强调国际法、规则秩序,以及美国在该地区所带来的实际利益和稳定。新加坡人对此的反应不一,有些人觉得民族主义很有吸引力,有些人对美国抱有疑虑,认为美国是殖民主义和帝国主义的代表,因此对美国的立场持怀疑态度,更容易被中国所说服。当然也有人理解美国所带来的稳定作用,并且认为一个稳定且积极的美国能够继续为该地区和新加坡带来繁荣。 Paul Haenle: 我想知道,美国和中国在新加坡的叙事竞争是否微妙?新加坡人是否很容易察觉到这种竞争?另外,这些叙事在多大程度上影响了舆论,又有多大程度上取决于美国和中国的实际行动和政策?

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In this episode of the China in the World podcast, Paul Haenle speaks with Dr. Ian Chong, non-resident scholar at Carnegie China and Associate Professor of Political Science at the National University of Singapore. The two experts discuss President Biden and Xi's upcoming meeting on the sidelines of the APEC Leaders' Meeting in San Francisco. The two also discuss the current state of U.S.-China relations and how the two powers are viewed from Southeast Asia as well as Dr. Chong's recent article published by Carnegie China, "Amid Contending Narratives, A Read on U.S. and PRC Messaging in Singapore." https://carnegieendowment.org/2023/11/08/amid-contending-narratives-read-on-u.s.-and-prc-messaging-in-singapore-pub-90942

Dr. Chong is a nonresident scholar at Carnegie China, where he examines U.S.-China dynamics in Southeast Asia and the broader Asia-Pacific. Chong is also an associate professor of political science at the National University of Singapore. He received his PhD from Princeton University in 2008 and previously taught at the Hong Kong University of Science and Technology. His research covers the intersection of international and domestic politics, with a focus on the externalities of major power competition, nationalism, regional order, security, contentious politics, and state formation. He also works on U.S.-China relations, security and order in Northeast and Southeast Asia, cross-strait relations, and Taiwan’s politics.