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N.T. Wright Interview: Baptism and the Exodus Story

2025/4/28
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N.T. Wright: 施洗约翰在约旦河施洗的举动，与旧约中以色列人出埃及记叙事以及申命记中关于悔改和上帝更新盟约的描述密切相关，预示着新的出埃及和上帝的回归。当时的犹太人正期待着新的出埃及，而施洗约翰的施洗正是回应了这种期待，象征着新的出埃及和上帝更新盟约的时刻。施洗约翰的施洗不仅仅是简单的宗教仪式，更是对旧约中上帝与以色列人立约的全新诠释，标志着上帝更新盟约的时刻。施洗约翰的施洗与出埃及记中以色列人过红海的经历有着密切的联系，象征着从旧有的罪恶状态中脱离出来，进入新的生命。耶稣的受洗是上帝计划中不可或缺的一部分，它预示着上帝的救赎计划将如何实现。施洗约翰试图阻止耶稣受洗，是因为他未能完全理解弥赛亚的使命，即上帝将如何回归锡安。耶稣受洗的意义在于，他将承担以色列的命运，并通过承担全人类的痛苦和死亡，最终实现上帝的救赎计划。出埃及记中的过红海与耶稣受洗的意义相互关联，都象征着从旧有的状态中脱离出来，进入新的创造，而这新的创造并非仅仅指重新获得土地，而是指上帝对全世界的宣告。耶稣吩咐门徒去传道和施洗，标志着洗礼的意义已经超越了地域的限制，成为面向全世界的救赎行动。以色列人出埃及记叙事中，在旷野中敬拜上帝的意义在于，只有离开埃及，才能真正摆脱埃及神祇的影响，从而完全地敬拜耶和华。早期教会的洗礼象征着信徒从死亡中重生，成为上帝国度中的人民。耶稣的受死是上帝救赎计划的核心，他承担了以色列和全人类的命运，通过死亡进入审判，最终实现救赎。洗礼象征着放下自我，顺服上帝的旨意，并跟随耶稣的脚步，经历死亡和重生。保罗在罗马书6章中阐述了洗礼的意义：与基督同死，同埋葬，同复活，从而获得新的生命。耶稣的死是战胜黑暗势力，拯救人类的关键，通过替代性的牺牲，切断了罪恶对人类的掌控。罗马书6-8章可以被看作是对出埃及记的重新诠释，分别象征着过红海、接受律法和在旷野中旅程。洗礼不仅仅是一种观念，更是一种经历，它将信徒带入圣经中死亡与重生这一重要主题。 Jon Collins: Tim Mackie:

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The Exodus Way E12 (Bonus Interview) — If we come to the New Testament without much knowledge of the Hebrew Bible, we may think that baptism is just something that John the Baptist made up and Jesus carried on for new disciples. But there are multiple levels of meaning in this practice, including ritual purification, Israel’s passage through the Red Sea, entry into the promised land, and, most importantly for Jesus, a symbol of his death on our behalf. In this episode, Jon and Tim have a wide-ranging conversation with prolific author and theologian N.T. Wright about the meaning of baptism and its connections to the Exodus story.

View all of our resources for The Exodus Way →)

CHAPTERS

  • Welcoming N.T. Wright (0:00-10:20)
  • Baptism as Repentance and Ushering in the Kingdom (10:20-33:17)
  • Baptism as Death and New Life in the Messiah (33:17-47:37)

OFFICIAL EPISODE TRANSCRIPT

View this episode’s official transcript).

REFERENCED RESOURCES

  • N.T. Wright mentions the online learning platform Admirato), which hosts dozens of his theology courses.
  • God's Big Picture Bible Storybook) by N. T. Wright
  • “Sonnet X” or “Death, be not proud” from Holy Sonnets) by John Donne
  • You can view annotations for this episode—plus our entire library of videos, podcasts, articles, and classes—in the BibleProject app, available for Android) and iOS).
  • Check out Tim’s extensive collection of recommended books here.)

SHOW MUSIC

  • “Faithful” by Marc Vanparla
  • “Sanctuary” by Asaph’s Arrows
  • BibleProject theme song by TENTS

 

SHOW CREDITS

Production of today’s episode is by Lindsey Ponder, producer, and Cooper Peltz, managing producer. Tyler Bailey is our supervising engineer, who edited today’s episode and also provided the sound design and mix. JB Witty does our show notes, and Hannah Woo provides the annotations for our app. Our host and creative director is Jon Collins, and our lead scholar is Tim Mackie. Special thanks to N.T. Wright.

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