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Managing vs. Mentoring

2025/2/12
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Kimberly Rhodes:37signals 虽然没有传统意义上的管理者,但在编程方面,我们通过指导来支持团队成员的成长和发展。这种模式鼓励员工自主管理,并确保团队在技术和价值观上保持一致。 Jeffrey Hardy:我在 37signals 工作了 17 年,见证了公司管理模式的演变。我们最初没有管理者,因为我们相信每个人都应该能够管理好自己。随着公司发展,我们尝试过设立管理者,但最终发现,通过资深员工的指导,我们可以更好地保持团队的效率和创新力。作为一名资深程序员,我认为指导的重点在于教学,传授价值观,并帮助团队成员做出符合公司利益的决策。我希望通过我的指导,能够让我的学员最终不再需要我,能够独立地解决问题并取得成功。在代码审查中,我总是尝试解释为什么应该修改代码,而不是直接给出答案,因为我相信,理解背后的原因比简单地遵循指示更为重要。我鼓励他们独立思考,并勇于承担责任,因为我相信,只有这样才能真正成长。

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37signals' unique approach to team management has evolved over 17 years, starting with no full-time managers and growing into a model that leverages mentorship. They experimented with incorporating traditional management structures but ultimately reverted to a mentorship-based system.
  • Initially, 37signals operated without full-time managers.
  • Growth led to informal team leads.
  • Experimentation with traditional management structures proved unsuccessful.
  • The company returned to a manager-less structure.

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There are no full-time managers at 37signals, but that doesn't mean the company is void of mentorship. In this episode of The REWORK Podcast, host Kimberly Rhodes chats with Principal Programmer Jeffrey Hardy as he breaks down the company’s focus on peer-to-peer mentorship. They discuss hiring practices that allow for less management and what mentorship looks like amongst the team.

Key Takeaways:

  • 00:42 – Meet Jeffrey Hardy, Principal Programmer
  • 02:09 – The evolution of 37signals' management structure
  • 05:19 – Replacing managers with mentors
  • 10:53 – How hiring impacts the ability to operate without managers
  • 13:35 – The power of seeking entrepreneurial experience
  • 15:10 – A day in the life of a mentor
  • 17:40 – Tips for being a better mentor

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  • Books by 37signals)
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  • The REWORK podcast)
  • The Rework Podcast on YouTube)
  • The 37signals Dev Blog)
  • 37signals on YouTube)
  • @37signals on X)