AI companies solving bounded problems, such as video generation, focus on rendering solved problems like CGI, making them more accessible and efficient. In contrast, companies tackling unbounded problems like general intelligence are solving an unsolved frontier, which may require continuous investment in larger models with no clear endpoint.
Video data is heavier, rarer, and more expensive to train on compared to text or audio. It requires significantly more storage and processing power, and there is less video data available globally, making it a unique challenge for AI models.
Captions' data flywheel allows the company to continuously ingest and grow its video data, which is used to train better models. This creates a feedback loop where user-generated content improves the models, enabling the company to stay at the forefront of video generation and editing technology.
AI-generated video could reach Hollywood-quality production within 18 months, driven by advancements in diffusion models and the scaling of parameters similar to the evolution of text models.
Video models, particularly diffusion models, start from noise and gradually predict layers of clarity based on text conditioning. This is different from text models like GPT, which predict the next word based on previous context. Video models require significantly more computational resources due to the complexity and size of video data.
Captions' AI tools include AI Creator, which generates videos of people talking, and AI Edit, which automates video editing tasks. These tools are used for marketing, sales, education, and social media content creation, allowing users to produce high-quality videos without extensive editing knowledge.
The competitive landscape is intense, with many companies attempting to replicate Captions' success. However, Captions differentiates itself by focusing on A-roll video generation and building a data flywheel, which gives it a significant advantage in training foundation models for human-centric video content.
AI software applications may adopt a mix of subscription-based pricing and value-based pricing, depending on the use case. While consumer pricing is evolving towards higher subscription fees, B2B pricing may align more with the value of replacing labor costs or improving operational efficiency.
From their time at Snap, they learned the importance of innovation, product-centric culture, and the CEO's intuition in driving success. They also gained insights into navigating highly competitive markets and the challenges of maintaining product-market fit in a rapidly evolving industry.
For Gaurav, the kindest thing was his parents ensuring he was born in the U.S., which provided him with opportunities he wouldn't have had in India. For Dwight, it was his wife's support in enabling him to take risks and start Captions, which significantly impacted his career.
My guests today are Dwight Churchill) and Gaurav Misra), co-founders of Captions, which uses AI to generate and edit talking videos and has grown to significant scale at remarkable speed. We explore a key distinction in AI: tackling bounded problems like video generation versus unbounded problems like general intelligence and what this means for building sustainable businesses. We also explore their unique data flywheel, why video generation could reach Hollywood quality within 18 months, and why building advanced AI products doesn't require huge teams. Please enjoy this discussion with Dwight and Gaurav.
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Show Notes:
(00:00:00) Welcome to Invest Like the Best
(00:07:49) The Evolution and Impact of AI
(00:09:14) Challenges in Video Data and AI
(00:10:36) AI in Media Generation
(00:12:07) Building a Sustainable AI Business
(00:14:56) The Journey of a Video AI Company
(00:25:41) AI Video Editing and Creation Tools
(00:29:58) Future of AI in Video and Business
(00:37:51) The Future of Likeness in Video
(00:39:25) Training Models on Human Data
(00:41:15) Competitive Landscape and Copycats
(00:44:01) The Role of Research Talent
(00:46:25) Pricing AI Software
(00:51:51) Investor Perspectives on AI
(01:02:44) Lessons from Snap
(01:07:04) The Kindest Thing Anyone Has Done for Dwight & Gaurav