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Jay Hoag - Keys to Successful Growth Investing - [Invest Like the Best, EP.429]

2025/6/17
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Invest Like the Best with Patrick O'Shaughnessy

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Jay Hoag: 在我超过40年的投资生涯中,科技领域对宏观因素的关注是前所未有的。技术监管、关税对全球贸易的影响等问题,过去并非科技行业关注的重点。虽然预测这些宏观因素的影响非常困难,但我认为它们对科技投资至关重要。目前,市场对SaaS和AI的关注度极高,而对消费互联网业务的重视程度则相对较低。我认为这其中存在着有趣的机会,可以采取与市场主流不同的策略,关注那些尚未被市场充分挖掘的私人投资机会。 Patrick O'Shaughnessy: 如今,风险投资者中专注于消费领域的越来越少。这是为什么?消费领域在今天有哪些特别之处?

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Jay Hoag, co-founder of TCV, highlights the increased focus on macro factors like regulation in technology investing. He points out the significant opportunities in the consumer internet sector, while most investors are chasing SaaS and AI deals. This contrarian view stems from the observation that many investors are following current trends rather than looking for new opportunities.
  • Increased focus on macro factors (regulation, tariffs) in technology investing
  • Significant opportunities in the consumer internet sector
  • Most investors currently chasing SaaS and AI deals

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My guest today is Jay Hoag). Jay is the co-founder of Technology Crossover Ventures, known as TCV, which pioneered the growth investing category and has backed legendary companies like Netflix, Spotify, and Expedia over three decades. Jay explains how macro factors like regulation have become unexpectedly central to technology investing. He offers his contrarian take on today's market, arguing that consumer internet represents significant opportunity while most investors chase SaaS and AI deals. We discuss investing in new technology versus commercialization, TCV’s evolution from cold-calling to AI-powered sourcing of 11 million companies, and their three-person unanimous investment committee structure. Please enjoy my conversation with Jay Hoag. 

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Show Notes:

(00:00:00) Welcome to Invest Like the Best

(00:05:18) Market Conditions and Investment Opportunities

(00:06:57) Consumer Internet Businesses and AI

(00:09:04) Technology Commercialization Challenges

(00:11:30) Public vs. Private Market Dynamics

(00:15:32) Growth Investing and Competitive Dynamics

(00:22:34) History and Resilience of TCV

(00:26:32) Understanding the Firm's Investment Lifecycle

(00:27:06) Evolution of Sourcing Strategies

(00:28:33) The Role of Data Intelligence in Sourcing

(00:29:41) Internal Investment Process at TCV

(00:34:31) Challenges and Strategies in Long-term Investments

(00:41:15) Reflections on the Investment World

(00:43:48) Personal Insights and Final Thoughts