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Marc Andreessen - The Battle For Tech Supremacy - [Invest Like the Best, EP.410]

2025/2/11
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Marc Andreessen: DeepSeek R1的发布对人工智能领域产生了重大影响。尽管DeepSeek的许多想法都源于美国和欧洲过去的研究,但其卓越的实施以及以开源形式向全球提供的举措,确实令人赞叹。与OpenAI等美国公司的封闭模式形成鲜明对比,DeepSeek实现了真正的开放AI,发布了LLM(V3)和Reasoner(R1)的代码和技术文档,为其他人提供了清晰的路线图。这不仅保证了AI的普及,还显著降低了成本,使推理能力适用于任何可验证答案的领域。我坚信,五年后,每个人都将拥有超人的AI律师和医生,这将使世界变得更加美好。 Patrick O'Shaughnessy: DeepSeek R1的发布无疑在人工智能领域引发了一场变革。您认为这场变革中,谁是赢家,谁是输家呢?

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My guest today is Marc Andreessen). Marc is a co-founder of Andreessen Horowitz and one of Silicon Valley's most influential figures. He combines deep technical knowledge from his engineering background with broad historical understanding and strategic thinking about societal patterns. He last joined me on Invest Like the Best in 2021, and the playing field looks a lot different today. Marc goes deep on the seismic shifts reshaping technology and geopolitics. We discuss DeepSeek's open-source AI and what it means for the technological rivalry between America and China, his perspective on the evolution of power structures, and the transformation of the venture capital industry as a whole. Please enjoy my conversation with Marc Andreessen.

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Editing and post-production work for this episode was provided by The Podcast Consultant (https://thepodcastconsultant.com)).

Show Notes:

(00:00:00) Learn about Ramp, Ridgeline, & Alphasense

(00:06:00) Introduction to DeepSeek's R1

(00:07:24) DeepSeek's Global Impact

(00:09:25) AI's Ubiquity and Future

(00:10:36) Winners and Losers in the AI Race

(00:14:22) The New AI Cold War

(00:16:34) China's Technological Ambitions

(00:21:31) Open Source and Intellectual Property

(00:27:48) The Role of Open Source in AI Development

(00:30:02) National Interests vs. Global Competition

(00:37:25) The Future of Capital Allocation

(00:45:41) Challenges of Sustaining Private Partnerships

(00:46:34) Building a Franchise Business

(00:48:27) The Role of Political Operations

(00:50:51) The Dynamics of Power and Elites

(01:01:44) Technological Change and Its Implications

(01:13:37) The Future of Robotics and Supply Chains

(01:21:09) American Dynamism and Defense Technology