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Royce Yudkoff & Rick Ruback - Entrepreneurship Through Acquisition - [Invest Like the Best, EP.423]

2025/5/13
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Rick Ruback: 在过去的十年里,小型企业收购领域发生了显著的变化。由基金支持的收购者正在向上市场转移,寻求更大的交易,平均企业总价值约为2000万美元。与此同时,没有外部资金支持的收购者则专注于规模较小的交易,他们发现低于100万美元EBITDA的业务也存在绝佳的机会。这种两极分化的趋势在十年前是难以预测的。 Royce Yudkoff: 美国的小企业管理局(SBA)贷款计划为公民提供了一个独特的机会,可以借款高达500万美元,用于收购已建立的、盈利的企业,并利用高达80%或90%的杠杆。此外,越来越多的人将收购视为一种独立发起人的机会,他们不希望运营公司,而是希望购买一系列小型公司并安排经理人进行管理。这种策略的吸引力在于,避免了为购买一家200万美元EBITDA的公司支付8倍的价格,而是以3倍的价格购买三家50万美元EBITDA的公司。

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My guests today are Rick Ruback) and Royce Yudkoff). Rick and Royce are Harvard Business School professors who teach their students how to search for, acquire, and run small business directly after graduation. It has been almost a decade since our first conversation, and unlike many past interviews that have become outdated due to technology or market changes, the core principles they shared about entrepreneurship through acquisition remain remarkably relevant today. They explore fascinating developments in the search-fund ecosystem, including the bifurcation between funded searchers targeting larger companies and self-funded entrepreneurs finding success with smaller businesses. Rick and Royce share their accumulated wisdom on what makes a company worth buying, why the "magic is in the multiples," and how their students consistently achieve impressive returns through patient, value-oriented business acquisition. Please enjoy my conversation with Rick Ruback and Royce Yudkoff.

For the full show notes, transcript, and links to mentioned content, check out the episode page⁠ here.⁠)

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Show Notes:

(00:00:00) Welcome to Invest Like the Best

(00:05:23) Changes in the Small Firm Acquisition Space

(00:06:52) The Impact of SBA Loans on Acquisition Entrepreneurship

(00:08:55) The Evolution of Entrepreneurship Through Acquisition

(00:10:09) Risk and Return in the Search Fund Model

(00:13:38) The Role of Investors in Funded and Unfunded Searches

(00:19:33) Criteria for a Good Acquisition Target

(00:28:36) The Growing Popularity of Self-Funded Searches

(00:43:21) Challenges and Red Flags in Small Firm Acquisitions

(00:49:47) Exploring Margin Expansion and Growth

(00:51:02) The Impact of Practical Teaching in Business Education

(00:52:12) Keys to a Successful Business Class

(00:53:30) The Role of Theory in Practical Business Education

(00:55:29) Challenges and Rewards of Teaching Business

(00:57:46) Capital Allocation in Small Businesses

(01:00:50) Advice for Aspiring Business Searchers

(01:03:45) Value Creation and Business Lifecycle

(01:08:20) Deciding to Leave Private Equity

(01:11:20) The Future of Higher Education in Business

(01:16:06) Ongoing Relationships with Former Students

(01:18:45) Favorite Business Cases to Teach

(01:24:46) Encouraging More People to Pursue Business Ownership