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AI Robotics Revolution: Intelligent Warehouse Machine

2025/5/27
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Jaeden Schafer: 我在本期播客中探讨了AI和机器人技术对未来就业的潜在影响,特别是通过分析亚马逊的案例,我试图揭示这些技术变革可能对各行各业产生的深远影响。我认为,AI不仅已经取代了许多需要大学学位的知识型工作,而且机器人技术也将对大量劳动力市场产生重大影响,尤其是在那些不需要高等教育背景的岗位上。虽然有人认为AI和机器人将完全取代人类的工作,但也有人认为它们会像ChatGPT一样,成为人类的助手,承担重复性的任务,从而提升整体工作效率。世界经济论坛预测,AI和机器人技术虽然会取代一部分工作岗位,但同时也会创造更多新的就业机会,因此,我认为人们应该积极提升自己的技能,适应未来的发展趋势。我同时对科技媒体对非技术劳动者的态度表示不满,我认为不应该轻视任何职业,每个人都应该有机会通过学习和努力实现自己的价值。我相信,即使面临技术变革带来的挑战,人们依然可以在工作中找到成就感,并为社会做出贡献。 Jaeden Schafer: 作为一名关注科技发展趋势的观察者,我认为亚马逊在机器人领域的积极投入值得关注。尽管亚马逊对机器人技术持有乐观态度,但我们仍需保持理性,因为技术的发展和应用并非一蹴而就。亚马逊的Amazon Go技术就是一个例子,它虽然具有创新性,但在实际应用中仍存在局限性,并未能完全取代人工。同样,自动驾驶技术也面临着诸多挑战,距离完全自主驾驶仍有很长的路要走。因此,我认为大规模的就业替代不会立即发生,我们需要为技术变革做好充分的准备,并积极应对可能带来的挑战。我将持续关注AI和机器人领域的发展动态,并及时与大家分享最新的信息和观点,帮助大家更好地适应未来的变革。

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This chapter explores the potential impact of AI and robotics on the job market, focusing on two contrasting visions of the future. One vision suggests widespread job displacement across all sectors, while the other posits that robots will primarily handle mundane tasks, augmenting human workers rather than replacing them entirely. The World Economic Forum's prediction of both job losses and gains is also discussed.
  • Two contrasting visions of AI's impact on jobs are explored: total replacement vs. task augmentation.
  • The World Economic Forum predicts 92 million jobs displaced and 170 million new jobs created by AI and robotics.
  • The discussion touches upon the impact on knowledge workers and those in unskilled labor roles.

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Today on the podcast, we're talking about AI and robotics and the future of where this goes. We're going to be looking at essentially some case studies, some announcements, and some things out of Amazon, what we're seeing there. I think it's pretty indicative of what's going to happen in the future in a lot of different industries. I think this has

massive implications for the entire workforce for maybe jobs that don't require college degrees. There's a lot of really interesting things here. And of course, I feel like we already have AI that has replaced most jobs that do require college degrees or is smart enough that eventually it will be. Some people might be mad at me, yelling at me, listening. I think, you know, skilled labor, or I'm sorry, you know,

knowledge workers, that kind of stuff. AI has done a lot of that. So in any case, we're going to talk about robotics today. I think this is going to have some big implications for a massive chunk of the workforce. And there's two visions we're going to cover, two ideas of what the future might look like. I'll paint them both and you can decide what you think is going to happen.

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All right, let's get into what Amazon's doing. So the first thing I think I want to talk about is the fact that we have kind of these two different pathways that people are predicting are going to happen. So one of them is where essentially all jobs are getting replaced by AI and essentially AI-powered robots. Some people think that all jobs except for their own, the venture capitalists Mark and

Doesn't think that AI could ever replace his work as an investor or that could be automated. So that's kind of interesting.

And so, you know, some people think it's going to essentially do everything maybe except for a handful of things. And there's another group of people that think that robots are essentially going to do kind of all of the boring, more mundane, heavy lifting tasks. And they'll kind of be like a human companion, kind of the way when, you know, we use ChatGPT. It's not like ChatGPT has replaced our job, but it's kind of augmented us. We use it alongside that. So some people feel like, you know, a robot will be kind of like what ChatGPT is for us right now, where it's kind of helping us, but it's not like it

has replaced everything it's not like chai chappati does everything we still just use it so um some people a lot of people think that this is going to be more of what actually happens in the future so the world economic forum predicted that about 92 million roles are going to be displaced by the current technology trends that's ai and robotics but they predict that 170 million new jobs are going to be created so you know net we have almost 80 million new jobs coming out of that if they're accurate

Now, TechCrunch wrote a whole article on this, and I just feel like they're...

I don't know, it just feels so condescending, sort of, their phrase when they refer to this all. But they say, for those who don't have the economic power or the intellectual interest to get a master's degree in AI and machine learning, especially the people who now occupy unskilled labor roles like warehouse workers, what does the bot-filled future look like for them? I don't know, it just feels like for all the dumb people doing menial labor, unlike us writers at TechCrunch who are super cool and

college educated master's degrees, what are the poor schlobs going to do? Okay. I know that's not what they're saying, but I just really get that feeling from a lot of journalists and a lot of people writing about this. So I just have to put my beef out there. I think it's dumb. I think that, um,

Amazon has given a clear path for a lot of people that are currently warehouse workers and it's not a terrible one. I think there's a lot of exciting things that are gonna go on in the future. And like, honestly, warehouse workers at like Amazon or anywhere else, for example, it's like this, not all of them are there for life. I have lots of friends that do,

you know, work in Amazon warehouses. They go work there for a couple of years as they're saving up for college or doing things or working on their career. Or maybe they want to be a forklift driver and be there forever and it pays great. I don't know. I don't think this is a career to look down on. So whatever. But robots are replacing a lot of this. So I do think that we're making some, obviously some big shifts. What are those people going to do? The reason I bring up the, I don't know, the other stuff is because like,

just because someone's working in a warehouse that doesn't mean they're dumb like like tech crunches like for those that don't have the intellectual desire i'm like come on these aren't dumb people it's just what they're just doing a job it probably pays good for what they need and it's that phase of their life whatever so they're not dumb people they can do lots of other things they're smart people and what other things could they do amazon says that they can work on the robots that are coming so

When Amazon revealed their big new Vulcan robot, which is apparently doing like 70% of everything happening in the warehouses, it says, quote, Vulcan is helping make work safer by handling ergonomically challenging tasks while creating opportunities for our teammates to grow their skills in robotic maintenance. So that was the CEO, Andy Jacey. He posted it over on X. That was his Twitter post.

So on the one hand, Vulcan is replacing a ton of people. And on the other hand, they said that there is a lot that

a lot of new jobs that are gonna be created. So the robots, they're able to get lower shelves than humans can. They're making it so humans don't have to climb ladders or bend down all day long, hurt their backs. I just think at the end of the day, this is probably a great thing. And then they also talk about how they're going to be training warehouse workers to become robot technicians.

And essentially the robot is going to be more picking stuff out and people are going to be working on the robots because the robots, like if we're being honest, it's they're doing about 75% of all the customer order fulfillment. So they're capable of doing virtually everything. They also said that they're, they're self educating and improving, but thanks to AI embedded in them. And so they're getting better and better. You can imagine that eventually these things are just gonna be able to get everything. And, but we're going to need a lot of people to work on these robots to fix them. And,

TechCrunch writers seem to think that the warehouse workers won't be smart enough to do it. Amazon seems to think that the warehouse workers will be. I'm going to side with Amazon here since they're their current employers. So Amazon, the one thing that they do get criticism on is that it's obviously not going to be a one-to-one conversion, right? It's not like everyone that works at a warehouse is going to get a job there. I mean, I think that's just...

the future. Also, not every warehouse in America has is Amazon with like a million robots. And so I think that, well, eventually we will have a lot of warehouse work automated by robots. If someone got laid off today, they could go somewhere else at a different warehouse that doesn't have this. So I think in the short term, we'll just the jobs will move around a little bit. I don't think it's going to be the end of the world in the long term.

Of course, everyone on the whole planet has to get re-skilled thanks to AI and robotics. So I think everyone needs to start focusing on that. I don't think that's a big scary thing. Now, I personally think, like if we're looking at the numbers from the World Economic Forum, 80 million new jobs are going to be created. I think that there's a lot to do. I think that there's a lot of new things that are going to be needed. And so

People should start working on upskilling themselves and going to take classes and courses and all this kind of stuff. And I think there's going to be a lot of opportunity there. But some people would disagree with me. There is one particular founder at a startup company that thinks everybody's going to get laid off. Robots are going to do everything. And

um everyone's just going to live off of government welfare i don't think this is going to happen i don't think this is a future we want people find fulfillment in their jobs and in their work and in creative processes if you get laid off and you don't want to go work on being a robot mechanic maybe you do art or whatever else music whatever else inspires you so i think that there'll be a lot of and they'll i think there's going to be value and a demand for stuff so i think people will be fine i think the world is going to be fine

One thing I wanted to mention is that Amazon is obviously very bullish on this. And I think we have to take everything with a bit of a grain of salt. I personally think it's only a matter of time before robotics. And I think it's evident that robotics will replace a lot, AI will replace a lot. But it doesn't mean it's happening tomorrow because Amazon, if you remember, was super bullish on their Amazon Go technology, which was essentially you walk into a store, grab whatever you want, you walk out and it just bills you to your Amazon account.

And they were trying to sell it to a bunch of other retailers. No one else really wanted to buy it. I think a lot of people just felt like Amazon was their big competitor. They didn't want to give them another, like, I don't know, more revenue pretty much.

Amazon itself scaled that back once everyone found out that mostly it was literally just people in India watching cameras to see what you grab and they were self-labeling the items. So it still required people to be working. It wasn't like AI was doing it all. It wasn't perfect. I think we see a lot from self-driving car companies where some self-driving robo companies, I can't remember if it was Cruiser or Waymo, but kind of got...

Not exposed, but they found out that like if the car can't figure out what to do, someone in India or in another country is essentially watching and like takes over control of the car and drives it. And so it's not like completely AI autonomous self-driving. So anyways, I think we're not like 100% there on a lot of this technology. Evidently, it's getting there, but we have a moment. But it's not like mass job displacement is coming for the entire world tomorrow.

So I think it's going to be interesting. I will keep you up to date on everything going on in this space as people do start making these kind of job and career shifts, as robots do start taking over. I think this is a very fascinating area. Thank you so much for tuning into the podcast. I hope you enjoyed it. Make sure to leave us a rating and review wherever you get your podcasts. And make sure to go check out AIbox.ai.

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