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Hello, folks. Welcome back to the Straight Forward Farming Podcast. I'm your host, Tony Reid, alongside Nick McCormick, as always, coming to you on a frosty, frosty January night. It is chilly. It is terrible. We're back. Yep. It's so cold we haven't shot one of these in a while, but we're back now. Now, if you listened to the podcast that came out before this, you know that we're here with Witted and Two, Ryan Kelly. Yeah.

And he's going to be on this one again here. So we're going to do two back-to-back because there's not really much else to do. He's forcing us to do it so you can thank him. Now, this might be a teaser. We might wait six months before we drop these two. You'll never know. We're sort of like, what was the big conspiracy? QAnon? He would just appear out of nowhere. He might go silent, which meant something was going down. So that might be how this is.

Could we back? Maybe not. Who knows? I might splice them together and it's just one four-hour podcast. I don't know what we're going to do. I think this one we should really get stepped up. Yeah. Should we keep this a little more farming as best we can? This is the straightforward farming podcast. So we've got to have at least five minutes of farm talk. Absolutely. Absolutely. And then we can go to politics and all that. Whatever we've got to do. Which...

There are so many people that cover politics. There are so few people that cover farming. That's true. But can we cover farming with a guy from Wisconsin in the room? Yeah. I mean, that's sketchy. It is. We'll do our best. We'll do our best. We'll wrap a little bit of old rusty barbed wire around this thing and hold it together. I mean, he's basically, I consider anything north of I-80 Canada.

So he's basically from Kansas. But they're going to be the 51st state, so we'll let it slide. In the interim, we'll let it slide. And they have ran Trudeau out of office. But see, here we go down politics. We're two minutes and 21 seconds into this, and we're going down the front. Absolutely, yeah. So, Ryan, you picked a topic. We've got to go off on farming some direction. What do you want to talk about? He's flipping through old Prairie Farmer magazine still. He's in love with the Sado 6.

He is. That is a great. Okay, okay. All right, so let's go with that 806 right there. Nick and I just commented, you know, that picture is 1980. May 1980 is that cover.

And, you know, and actually, Tony, you saw that picture too and mentioned, oh, look, that's a nice-looking 806. So all three of us were drawn to that picture. Yeah. And that tractor was old at that time. Yeah, so the newest it would have been would have been seven, or oldest would have been 17, newest would have been 13, right? 63 to 67, is that right, for an 806? I think so, roughly. Yeah. So remember our 806 tractor?

Was a big deal still. Iconic, absolutely iconic grill. They're still a big deal. Well, I got nothing against them other than the, I mean, the original 806 shifting was tough. You put 56 shifting on them, way better, you know. Their theory on that, on why they did it that way, made perfect sense. The execution, maybe not as good, but the theory was perfect. What was that?

You're back and forth, back and forth. Nobody that's ever operated an 806 has gone back and forth, back and forth fast. I didn't say it. I said the theory was good. Yeah, yeah. I said the theory was good. I'm admiring the cycloplanner behind it.

Absolutely. So is that a 400? It looks like an eight-row wide planter to me, right? That's close, yeah, from the cover, yeah. So I was kind of surprised. I would have thought there would have been two drums, though, but you can't see the drum in that pitcher's width. It's perfectly behind the operator from the front.

There's a little Dickie John monitor up there watching the flashy lights. He's probably got some chops going down the side there. More than likely, yeah. That's a happy farmer right there. It is a happy farmer. Yep. Other than his field has trees around it. There's nothing good from that. But, you know, I do, and I've said this before, whether it was a podcast or the TikToks, whatever, that I do think farming in the 90s is when it ended as far as being...

Like when you sit there, like it does not get any better than this. Like nowadays the machinery is better. It's auto steer. I get it. But something about it is not as fun as it was. And maybe just because we were younger then, so it seemed funner. I don't know. Hard to beat the 90s. It was just. As much as I love the 80s, it's hard to beat the 90s. I mean, when a 7000 series Magnum was a pretty new tractor, it's like, man, this is pretty. I suppose you always love when you were a teenager.

I'm not going to say your life never gets any better than that because it does, just in different ways. But when you're in your teenage years, you got a little bit of scratch, a lot of freedom. The future's unknown, so you can kind of go any direction.

And also think about this, too, though. We were going from, and pick your poison. I'm just going to use IH, for example. You were going from a 1086, a 5288, whatever, into a Magnum. Yeah. That was a big change. Now you go from an 8310, like an original 8310 John Deere, to an 8460R, which

The cab is not really much different. I mean, yeah, there's maybe a different monitor or a different button. Not that much. The gear shift's still the same. The hydraulic lever still is. Nothing changed drastically. And I'll say this. I don't think it's just nostalgia that the 90s tractors, I think that's kind of the pinnacle of farm equipment from the standpoint of...

And they were all nice tractors. Yeah. Had good air conditioners, radios. No electronics for the most part. Or electronics that would cause you trouble. Yeah, just enough electronics that kind of made things look cool. Like your digital dashes, your that kind of stuff. Good air conditioning, good heaters. I mean, because face it, even the 86 series. What's a heater? Yeah. We don't. When it gets that cold, we don't farm down here. Okay. All right. Exactly. But.

You know, even on an 86 series, the air conditioning was never quite, the dreaded red light would come on or something. By the time the Magnum came out. Master of the knob. Yeah. Crack it slow. Yeah. But you know, a Magnum was easy to get into. I mean, maybe by today's standards. But at the time, it was an easy tractor to get into. Shifted, you know, you had a full power shift. Deers were the same way. You know, I mean, all that stuff was...

It was just nice. Yeah, I think. I mean, look at going from an 8820 or a 915 International Combine, motor on the side, these big suckers, and then you go to these revolutionary cabs, quiet, air conditioning, electric over hydraulic header control. Switch and make something happen. Yeah. Wasn't all bad. Yeah. And, well, if you're sitting, if you could get a brand new 25-year-old combine today,

Class 5, Class 6, brand new combine today. We'd all take that. Because when you're in that cab, it doesn't feel any different in a newer one. So I do think we kind of hit a pinnacle, but...

I mean, it sucks to say that farming has continuously gone downhill. Well, honestly, it's so good now. Like, where are they going to go? Like, you're not going to make anything that much better than what they're making now. The one area I do not want to go back on, I don't think, I don't want to go back to moving grain with wagons. You know what I mean? We did it back then because we didn't know any better. But if you told me today, hey, shit's tough.

You have to go back to hauling wagons. I mean, I would do it. You know, our area probably hung on to wagons longer than most just because the proximity of the elevators, et cetera. And we sold a shit ton of wagons back in the day. And I was super stoked because those first 400 bushel under the first, the semi tires, they were no good in the mud because they sunk. But they didn't bounce going down the road, so you traded it off. But, you know, because we had –

I mean, we had a thick one back in the day that was 300 bushels side was beat in mud tires on it. And that was the pinnacle of our wagons for a lot of years. And it was so much better than every other wagon we had. Like my brother and I would always joke, like, oh, dad's got this thick one that is this. Why doesn't grandpa have wagons this cool, you know?

We were fighting to pull this beat to ship Ficklin, but it was still better than every other thing we had. I still remember as a kid, though, like a lot of people had them old Ficklins, and a lot of them didn't even have a sticker. Like, you didn't really know what it was. Like, Kill Brothers was an okay wagon. Like, they were fine. But if somebody rolled in with a pair of big, green, like, Parker wagons, like, this dude's rolling.

And then when the dude rolls in with the DMI. The big little wagon, which was all sideboard. Yeah, exactly. The wagon wasn't very tall. It was all sideboard. Yep. Like the Parker guy was really cool until the guy with two big DMI wagons rolled in. The big little wagons. Yep. But then somebody would show up with a little giant and then everybody felt good. Yeah, exactly. Yeah. The galvanized, the gleaner. The gleaner of wagons. Exactly. The gleaner of wagons. Yeah. Um.

No, you remember the year-round had that Harvest box. That was a big Gravity box. I saw. There's a place. Remember Triggs Trailers, like Triggs Livestock Trailers?

They kind of had a real pointy front end on them. I think they were built in Iowa, and I saw Triggs gravity boxes. Really? I remember we got our first 440 Brents. It's like life can't get any better. Yeah. Like, we are in tall cotton now. These things have brakes, big tires. It can't get any better. Like, these things hold, you know, that's 800 bushel going to town every time. Yep. Holy cow. What?

I don't know how it can get any better. Yep. I guess I forgot about Easy Trail. They're not made that far from here. Yeah. Well, actually, I take that back. That one was not a pickling. I don't think that was an easy trail with the mud tires on and the side beaded.

So there was Corey. Remember Corey? Corey had good wagons. But they were made, I think they made Fleet Farm. Manly of Illinois. Manly of Illinois. Yep. I'll be damned. We sold Corey wagons up until they went broke. Really? I don't guess I've ever heard of them. We didn't sell them early on. We sold them in the end, towards the end of the production. I still have a Corey wagon to this day. Really? I don't think I've ever heard of them. I've got a 550 Corey wagon that holds like 625 wagons.

It's a great wagon. Pulls great. Yeah, we don't use it. We don't use it. We only have a couple wagons left, just if we want to put one at the bin or whatever. But, yeah, we've got one of the last Cori wagons. That had to be a little bit tough of a market to get into. I mean, there's not much to a gravity flow wagon. You laugh. Unreferred Brent.

And actually, there was superior. Like, Parkers were good wagons. I mean, I remember if they owned Parker now, they owned Kill Brothers, and they're still selling wagons like the Grown Out style. And it's different than a head trailer. It's literally four wheels and two beams. I mean, but there's J&M. J&M, yeah. But, you know, some of them did unload way better than others. You know, so it's funny you mention that. Like, so our 440s were great at the bend. Yep. The 540s were terrible at the bend.

Because the door was so wide, if the corn was a little bit wet, they didn't feed worth of shit going into the auger, et cetera. But at the elevator, they were great because they didn't put the chute down. Open it up. Well, not on an elevator. Oh, okay. You're still cracking it, but you didn't have to mess with the chute. So a 540 was okay. You could unload a 540 at the grain elevator at the same time you could do a 440. But the bin, the 440 was king for our setup. And that might not have been everywhere, but for our setup –

You can unload a 440 in way less time than if I, I realize you have a hundred more bushels of the 540, but the 540 took exponentially longer because you couldn't crack the door very high. It would run over the sides. The 440s were way, but to the point, like if we were going to the bend, well, back when we had at one point in time, we had two 440s and two 540s. You never took the 540s to the bend.

Like we just hooked the 440s together. If you're going to the bend, you took those. If you're going to the elevator, you took the other ones. I mean, we would obviously interchange that. But your preference would be the 440s to the bend because they unloaded so much better at the bend. So did anybody go get as new as like 644 Brents or anything around here? There was a few of those. About the time those got kind of popular –

wagons were on their way out. Okay. But, I mean, if you had to farm with 657 Brents today, that wouldn't be that bad. It's not terrible, no, especially if you get hooked to them together. They're not legal, but still, yeah. Yeah. They trail all right. They pull great. You can pull one of those 55 mile an hour empty, no problem. I still think one of the coolest setups I've ever seen for around here was when I worked for the co-op up north of Mattoon, Rural King, there was a guy up there who had an 8100 John Deere front wheel assist.

popped the duals off. He had a hopper bottom grain driller. He put a dolly on it like UPS would hook two trailers with. Pulled the hopper bottom with the tractor, but he was only going two miles to the elevator. Yeah.

But it worked like a charm. I thought, you know, that's kind of genius. I mean, didn't have to pay license on a semi-tractor. A joe dog is the word you're looking for there. Those are called joe dogs. Is that right? Did he have an air compressor or anything to run the brakes, or did he just go? No, I remember he had something, but I don't remember how he'd done it. But I remember seeing the airlines going to the tractor, but I don't remember what he'd done to make that work. Honestly, you could probably get an airline kit for all this.

I mean, deer might not have embraced that, but the European side of the world. Oh yeah. I mean, an MX two seven, you can get an air brake kit for those to make that work. Yep. Okay. I assumed deer had the same thing. It wasn't a super popular North American option, but. Okay. So back to the 806 and the eight row cyclo. So let's just say you're going to farm 250 acres. That's your plant tractor. That's your planner. Um,

And you're going to make a living at it, right? You're going to make a living farming your 250 acres. Yep. But you're going to go out there, you're going to do it with an 806. You know, we'll give you one cab tractor for tillage, whether it's a 1066, 4430, et cetera. But that's what you got.

Do you take that deal or do you continue to hustle and do off-farm stuff and farm a little bit more acres with nicer equipment? Or would you take the 806 and the... If you told me I could make a living, and I'm not talking buying Cadillacs, but no, I'd take that deal all day long. Yep, absolutely. You know, and...

Think of that guy. I mean, you can tell in that picture, which... I guess happy. Yeah, and, you know, he's pimped his 806 out a little bit. You know, he painted the weights. Painted the weights, yep. I can't see it. So you got duels on here? I can't see it from here. Nope. Nope, singles. Okay, singles, yep. Oh, yeah, nice weights on the front. But, I mean, and you can tell... He probably pulled at the fair last summer. Yeah, probably. And it looks...

That is an 806 muffler, but, I mean, she doesn't even have the paint burnt off. And I'm assuming it's got to be a diesel, wouldn't it? Yeah, I would think so. Yeah, it's a diesel. You know, that's our, and that just goes to show, I mean, that guy's, you know, you can tell he's smiling. Yeah. He's happy as could be, you know. Even though it looks like he's planting in front of a disc, but still. Yeah. Can you tell up here? Does he got the curve throttle on it?

No, 806 is cast. Yeah, that big lever. My cousin's got one, though. He's got one on his 806. You could modify it, but it wouldn't be as easy as a 56. It's been on there for my entire life. It's like a machine out of aluminum. It's got finger grips, but I've never really paid that close attention to how it's screwed on there. I don't know what they've done to it. But I mean, they're...

proud as could be and it's it's 1980 things are still kind of all right you know you think about guys getting you know hey flip that over to the back i don't mean go keep talking interest rates are going up and and uh if you go ahead and borrow a bunch of money to buy newer equipment is that guy still around farming today yeah i don't know look they're the red power rebates it's funny when you flip through those magazines though you can get

You can get $200 off buying an 84 tractor with a rugged international loader. You'll get a rebate. Yep. If you flip through them, about the mid-80s, once you get through that stack, like when interest got really high, like they'll knock $500 off the tractor, or you can go from 18% interest to 14%, or whatever the numbers are. I mean...

The interest is like astronomically high. A Heston Silas chopper gives you a giant throat for more capacity, right? That's what she said. That's what I was going to say. I think I went to school with her. Yeah. She was popular. Yeah. Sloan's Assumption. There was their ad. Yeah, that, I don't know. It just looks like, well, then we've talked about this. Be happy.

With what you got. There's a guy with an 806 that was not a new tractor at that time either. Right. And there's a happy guy farming with his 806. Truthfully, honestly, I think if you wanted to curtail a lot of this greed and stuff in farming, we got to get rid of HIPAA laws.

If I can Google up the length of your penis, that will stop most of these guys doing what they're doing. It's like, shut her down. You don't need another thousand. I know how big it is. You're good to go. That would curtail a lot of the land hogs stabbing each other in the back, screwing your neighbor over. So we got to get rid of HIPAA laws to change farming. There's no more denalities in King Ranch's being sold at that point. No, no.

Nope. The backside of that's not pretty either. So let's start the conspiracy theory that Ford and Chevy passed HIPAA laws. I mean, it should be on your driver's license, right? Absolutely. Yeah. Height, weight, dick length. Yep. Yeah. Yeah. Then imagine dating like that. Oh, yeah. Like, can I see your driver's license? No. Yeah.

I'm a grower, not a shore. Yeah. I've had too many DUIs. I don't have a license. I'm driving a fucking, you know, 79 Scottsdale out there, okay? That should tell you enough, right? Yep. No tripods around those. Yeah. I don't know. Farming, it's sad to say that farming is not as good as it was. It's just not.

No, it's not. It's not as fun. It's just out of control. Yeah. Do you think that our great-grandparents that were aging out in the 80s were thinking the same thing, though? They might have been. In some ways. But I think the only...

But reservation you would have back then was there wasn't the backstabbing, funeral chasing, ambulance chase. You know, people... There wasn't, but was there? Like, we weren't there to just... Like, it obviously wasn't as bad because there wasn't... We didn't hear about it as much, but there had to be some of it. There had to be some of it. Yeah, but I can remember...

neighbors going around asking farmers if they would rent their land. You know, like when they were going to retire or something like that. At some point in time, the first five guys would say no. Right. Back then, there was a lot of guys that owned 500 acres and farmed 200. They ran the other acres out because they couldn't cover it. Well...

Yeah, my wife inherited some, and I've got this. I'm just going to rent this out. There was a lot of that, honestly. Well, and I think a lot of guys, if they had enough land to feed their livestock, you know, that was key. And if you had enough work to do, then I think, I don't know, I hear a lot, you know, like we think of social media and people constantly –

People need to constantly go do this. They need to go do that. No one can stay home. You know what I mean? Like, my wife on the weekend has to run to town, you know, I don't know how many times, right? And I've talked to, like, some of the old farmers and, you know. Tony's wife single-handedly keeps Dollar General in business. Yep. She's probably been there three times this evening. She's got a chicken. Employee of the month. She doesn't work there. It's like, hey, you're out of something on aisle two.

Do you bring that up just to, like, needle Rob Sharkey? Because isn't that what he always talks about is how there's no dollar general? Oh, does he? I must have missed that. But, no, they would do, like, card clubs. So they'd get done with their milking or chores or whatever, and they'd all get together. Even though they didn't gamble and didn't drink, but they're playing cards every weekend, every evening, whatever. Yep. So I wonder, when did farming change?

From everybody farmed 200 acres and had cows and pigs and chickens and raised your family to this guy's going to be a swinging dick selling livestock boys. It's going to go alone and grain farm. Well, at some point in time, farming was just sustaining your own household, right? Like you were just raising what you could eat with a little bit of overproduction for sale. And then it turned into production for sale.

Well, and I think even that video I recorded yesterday or this morning with that guy, he started farming pretty big when he got out of college. So they started pushing this industrialized agriculture, you know, in specialized agriculture. Like it was not cool, like your picture up there, the diversified farm where you had everything, right? Yeah. That went away and they said,

Well, no, instead of having your beef cows here, your geese, your turkeys, your chickens, and the milk cows and the herd of cats walking across the driveway, they said you either need to raise dairy cows, you either need to raise pigs, chickens, or herds of cats. It's one or the other. You can't do all the rest of this. And that was a mistake. Yeah. I remember my dad talking about they would take eggs to the grocery store and trade them for groceries.

And they didn't have a ton of chickens. I don't know how many that was. But they would trade eggs for grocery. They would go to Effingham once a week or once every two weeks and trade eggs for groceries. And they didn't buy milk because they had a couple of dairy cows and a few beef cows for constant beef. Because honestly, for a family of four, a couple of beef cows a year, do you? Yeah. Like, you know.

That will get you through as long as, you know, you're working it out where you get replacements, et cetera, et cetera. Like, you don't have to have 400 to make that work for a little bit of, you know, doing the row crop thing or whatever. But can you fathom wheeling into the IGA or Walmart tomorrow with 10 dozen eggs and want to trade them for groceries? Yeah. Be the best things they'd have in the store, but they're not trading you for shit. Agreed. You know, like that ain't happening. But they weren't the only people doing that. It was literally...

Every customer they had was, well, not every, obviously, because somebody had to be buying the eggs. But half the customers they had were trading eggs for bread, cheese, trading them for groceries of some fashion, basic ingredients for other things so you could turn them into something. And so when you start talking about all this, is it because we don't know what the future holds?

Or is it because it really was better times? Nobody says, nobody wakes up at 25 years old and says, man, I wish I was 50. This just sucks. I wish I was 50. But everybody wakes up when they're 50 and says, God damn, I wish I was 20. It was so much better back then. It was great. Was it really great or do we think it was great? I don't know. I don't know. I can remember at times, in times of my farming career, like specifically going, this is pretty awesome. You know? Yeah.

Boy, I'm pretty lucky right now. We tend to look back on things a little bit with rose-colored glasses. Absolutely. But still, I can remember, like I said, doing things and going, man, this is great. Yeah. You don't know what you don't know. But back then, I hear my mom talk about harvesting. It's not the right word. But skinning chickens or whatever.

The process. Butchering chickens. Butchering chickens. There you go. Didn't think of the word. Butchering chickens, whatever, so on and so forth, which doesn't sound like a pleasant process, but they're having a great time doing it. Like, oh, we hated it. We hated it. We hated it. But then you listen to their stories and all her and her siblings are smiling ear to ear telling the stories. I'm like, I don't think you hated it that much. Like.

You did at the time, but maybe at the time, cause it, cause it was work and it was kind of gross, but they were still doing it and somewhat having fun. You didn't know any different. You're not just going to go to the store and buy chickens. Your option is to butcher these or go without. Well, that makes it kind of fun. Yeah. You know? So I don't know. I think, I think happiness is very relative to your situation. Yeah.

If you can't see the forest for the trees, you're never going to be happy. If you enjoy what you're doing at that time, like literally, if you tell me, hey, Nick, I bet you can't sharpen this pencil with a knife. I might sit over here in the corner and sharpen the pencil you gave me with a knife and be happy as a lark. I might be. Or you could tell me, hey, you know, whatever, and we're going tractor pulling tonight, and I could be happy doing that. Or I could be pissed off doing both.

Just depends on who you are, what makes you happy. It's all relative to your situation. Like Elon Musk is not sharpening pencils with a knife. Also not doing tragic pulling. No. You know, but that's in order there. That's his loss. But a ton of that stuff, the grand picture of it is,

I know people that are super wealthy that are never happy. You can't make them happy. They can't make themselves happy. If they can't make themselves happy with the money they have, I damn sure can't make them happy. I know people that are poor. They're the happiest people you've ever met. You've got to find your niche in that. In our parents' generation, hard work made you happy. It doesn't matter if you're butchering chickens, working at a factory, whatever it was, to a certain degree, that made them happy.

But they were also moving towards a goal because I'm not going to say life was easier, but I think it was easier to go from A to B, B being better. So maybe I said that wrong, but going from B to A plus was easier because you worked towards a goal? I don't know. Well, I think there was a time in agriculture where if you wanted to be successful as a farmer or in agriculture,

You just had to work hard. Yes. Right? Absolutely. Like, you know. Yeah, you could outwork anybody. You could outwork decisions. You could be dumb financially, but just put your head down and go and make it work. Because back then, you couldn't spend your money. You couldn't get on Amazon and buy shit you didn't need. You didn't have a credit card. You could literally just outwork your spending habits and be fine. Yeah, if your crops, your livestock were better.

So let's just say Nick is a phenomenal farmer. His crops are perfect. He does a great job. But he doesn't pay any attention to marketing at all. So it's just... It didn't change that much back then either. Right, and that's what I mean. So today you could be a great farmer, horrible at marketing, and you could have a really shitty farmer that's a genius at marketing grain today

And it's a wash or maybe not even a wash. Hell, that guy trading grain at some point, you know, maybe he's just trading futures. Yeah, he may be making money on the way up and down both. Right. So, you know, being a farmer isn't quite as big of a deal where back in the day when the price changed 20 cents an entire year. Yeah.

It wasn't the end of the world. You were better off to just, well, I'll grow a really good crop. I'll do a good job. And that went away. I think the part that I miss the most, the very most, was the fabric of the community that's gone. So back then...

I can remember numerous times a year, and of course, I come from a very large family, both sides. So anytime there was a, I'm going to say a big project going on, whether it was butchering chickens or whatever that deal was, there was 50 people there, you know? And I mean, I got just a million memories of that growing up. And then you even had the other side of it. It might have been friends. You would take the family out of it, and there was other stuff that we were doing that didn't involve family, but it was friends. And there was big get-togethers and blah, blah, blah.

So, Nick, when was the last time that you and both of your kids and my wife, you know, like your whole family and my whole family, the whole families got together? I can't even tell you. Yeah. And we live two miles apart and our kids are the same age. I can tell you 19,000 times where there was a combination of them, but all of them there, that's...

I can't tell you the last time. And they're the same age. Might have been me and you and your wife. Might have been me and you and my wife. Might have been my wife and your wife. Two kids here and there. Two kids here and there, but all of them together. I'll bet you in 1980 that number, you can at least tell me the date. It may not have been last week, but it might have been a month ago or three months ago or whatever.

And that's what's sad. We got all this technology at the palm of our hands and we get together less and less and less because I don't think we have to. I can sit on my couch and know what Nick's doing versus going and talking to Nick. What are you doing? Well, and I was going to say technology was the beginning of this and it started a long time before even our childhoods. Yeah. But, you know, two pieces of equipment that change things, you know, the combine. Yeah.

when there were threshing crews and that's why they're still threshing uh shows today because that left such an impression on the guys that were there for it because the whole neighborhood got together nobody my grandpa or my yeah my grandpa my great uncle they went around and harvested for this group of people that was a deal you know they all work together as a community yeah in fact a lot of the neighbors here will tell you that

Everybody had a picker, but one guy had a sheller. Yes. So you would pick it, and then he would bring the sheller later on that winter. This Saturday, we're going to your house. Monday, we're going to Nick's house. You just kept moving the sheller to the farm, but all the neighbors helped until everybody's corn was shelled. And even in our childhood, round balers. Yeah. Round balers taken off. There were so many bales of hay you could have thrown all over the neighborhood as a kid.

You know, people work together, you know, small square baling hay. You know, people hear you had kids and they're like, I need your kids, you know. So the technology kind of took that away. Took the labor out of it, yeah. And when everybody had that small livestock farm where they were threshing grain, you know, loose hay first and then small square baling hay later.

You had enough work to do. You wanted to just take care of your livestock operation. People worked together where now it's become a competition. And part of the reason it's competition is because it's a lot easier to expand. And back then, nobody was making any real money. Like, they were surviving. Right. They were feeding their family and surviving, so you didn't really want any more because that didn't mean more money necessarily. And back then...

Unless you had a, by today's standards, what I call a black swan event. You know, whatever you were farming, if you were farming 700 acres in 1992, you pretty much knew year in and year out. And whatever this figure may be, I'm going to walk away with 25 grand profit or whatever that number was. It wasn't these violent swings that this year I'm going to make 100, next year I'm going to lose 500,000. You know, it just, it wasn't like that. Yeah.

Well, I mean, I just saw something here with grain prices from back then that wasn't that far off where we are. Yeah. You know? I think we've all been duped between the machinery manufacturers, your own government. I mean, you can't tell me that Monsanto and everybody didn't lobby the U.S. government to go to South America and start clearing ground. There's more money in their pocket to sell seed. Thank you, Jimmy Carter, on some of that. But, yeah, back to him being a great human being. Yeah. And...

We're our own worst enemy in a lot of ways. You show a farmer, you know, a profit, he'll show you a surplus. And we're tractor addicts, you know, like you see it like in the IH world, it was the letter series. And then it became something else and then something else and then something else. And now we're to the point that magnums are collectible. We've seen all that.

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So now we're getting the tractors are actually usable in today's world still, but they're collectible. And I'm just as guilty as anybody else. I don't want every tractor, but I'd like to have them all. You know what I mean? Like, I don't need any more tractors, but there's a few more I'd like to have. So, I don't know. It's funny how the world goes. It just is what it is. You know what I think the funny part is on some of this machinery, and I've had it happen to me since going to a 9610 combine.

So the new, shiny, cool machinery, the farmers think that I'm a big swinging dick. I'm out here planting along the highway and all these people driving by. See this old tractor of mine? I'm a big swinging dick. But do you realize that 99% of the population, and I've had this happen to me twice, on my combine that's a 1999 model or 2000 model, have asked me, that combine is four or five years old, ain't it? No, it's 20. The average Joe don't know one from the next. Right.

And barely farmers know if you got an 8310 or whatever the fuck these new numbers are. You got one that's two years old and you roll it for one that's brand new. I don't know. I mean, I'm not knocking the next generation for not knowing some things because that's my fault as much as it is anybody's. It is because they're not looking at 25, 30, 40 year old prairie farmers right now. They're not.

Because that's just the way society has went, so on and so forth. And that's where my hat's off to your son because he has looked at those magazines. He does know where that year that combine is, so on and so forth. But they just don't know what they don't know. They would think it was cool if they knew a little bit about it, but they're so far removed that they missed the transition of some of that stuff, and they just don't know. Yeah. Which is fine. Yeah.

Our kids miss... Give me a new 23D. I'll just take one. I mean, that's fine. I'll just park the rest of the shit. I'll take one. I'll harvest until I'm done with life. Our kids miss a lot of opportunities through no fault of their own. I stood on a hay rack wagon a bunch in the summer as a kid. They don't have the chance to do that because nobody square bales. That's not their fault. I mean, I'm not going to go buy a square baler and just start picking up hay ground. We can't find anybody to square bale, so we square bale them by the same token...

These kids would like the square bell, but nobody square bells. Exactly. Like, it's just, you know, tomato, tomato. But, yeah. Yeah, and I think there was a real, like, think of that guy with the 806 with his weights painted up and stuff. Probably pulled it, like I said, right? When you were driving that 806 as a kid, man, you grabbed that throttle. You felt it. You heard it. You felt it.

Sitting in a new tractor and they're nice, they're comfortable. It's not the same. No, it's not. And that 806, I was thinking of that. He's running an eight-row wide, but it's pretty flat ground, but he's still running a PTO and everything else. Like he gets to a hill or something. He's actually working that tractor a little bit. Now you got guys running around.

8RX, 410s, you know. I will use an easy scenario that's very close to home because we're feet away from it. Tony's son has pumped up a stereo in his truck, and I can appreciate that because I used to be that guy. Getting a newer truck, the stereo is perfectly good. I'm getting old now.

Even though my hearing's going, I don't need it turned up loud. I barely listen to the radio anymore, but I can fully appreciate the fact that he put subs in it and amp, all that shit. And truthfully, I didn't know that was a thing now. I thought that went by the wayside. I did too. That's why I'm super stoked that he's doing that. Agreed. By the same token, he can probably buy a JBL clip speaker. Probably. Yeah. Would be better than what we had. Yeah, absolutely. Absolutely.

no speakers sound good behind a seat. They got to be through the seat. Do you like, I like the thumb. I did. I don't know that I do now. I haven't had anything that thumped by the seat for 25 years. Yeah. But do I fully embrace and appreciate the fact that Henry's doing that and wired it on his own? He's like, Oh, I got to have this big battery cable to run this sample. I'm like,

Rock on, dude. Rock on. I will tell you right now, and I'm not bragging. If you had a CD player, I would buy you a CD right now. If you want to play Copperhead, wrote at the top of your lungs, let that thump, I'll buy the damn thing for you. I am not bragging because he's my son. I'm truly not, but that fucking kid will tackle anything. He will. I don't care. He will dive into anything. I will give him that. He had that four-wheeler scattered in three million pieces, the motor, the transmission, all that. He rebuilt the whole sum of bits. That's the 14th four-wheeler that he's had scattered all over your shop.

At one point in time, we had to point out to him, dude, you've got an entire four-wheeler over here that you don't even know you have. I do?

Yeah, he bought two or three 300Xs in pieces of various ones. You know, I think you're right. I think I could put that together. So, like, one evening, Tony and I are drinking beer. Next thing you know, a 300X appears out of nowhere. It's just ready to go. Boom. Fires it up. Drives it off. A Mendigo is just parts in a shed. Yeah. You know, we...

I love that. The fact that he did that because that's not happening everywhere in America anymore. No. You know, it's just not. I've tried to preach to him as hard as I can. And I believe this in my soul. A kid his age.

If you're willing to work with your hands, the world's your oyster. You can be a millionaire by the time you're at a pretty young age because there's nobody else doing it. No, there's nobody else doing it. The world's your oyster. The kids you go to school with have no clue how to change a tire. So if you're the only kid that does, guess what? We're not doing the good old boy system anymore. A hundred bucks, I'll change it. If not,

Figure it out. Yeah. I hate to be that way, but do you want to be a capitalist? You're not wrong. It's not my fault. You can shoot a basketball. You can bump a volleyball. That's cool. When I need that done, I'll call you. When you need a tire change, guess what, asshole? You're paying me to do it. Exactly. That's just the way the world works. I have this discussion with my wife weekly. My kids are helpless at some level. Certain things that I don't think I was helpless at at their age.

Maybe I was. My dad was probably having the same conversation as your dad at home. What a piece of shit I was and how I was never going to be anything. And it turns out I'm not. So he was probably right. But I think I was a little more capable at that point. You know, like I didn't, my mom didn't teach me how to cook. I just watched her do some shit. Yeah. Figured it out. I can cook. It turns out I'm a pretty good cook, which is why I'm fat. I wish I would have never paid any attention because I'm fat now because of that. Cause I love to cook. Don't mind it at all.

But I also learned a ton of stuff from my dad, obviously, on this, that, and the other. But some of that he didn't necessarily teach me. You just see it happen. You mimic it. You do it. You go on. And the worst thing you can do is helicopter your kids. And so at some point in time, just throw them a damn project and say, here's the situation. Here's the result I'm looking for. How do you get from A to B? I don't even want to know.

Because how they get from A to B might be better than the way you're doing it. Yep. Well, yeah, I say that all the time. My dad didn't sit down and instruct me how to do anything. You just watched. My dad was a terrible teacher, a great person, a great doer. His version of teaching was, here's how I want it done. You didn't do it my way. You're a dumbass. Figure it out.

At some point in time, you get tired of being called a dumbass, so you pay way more attention the next time he does it until you just figure it out. I think that's the plot line of the Karate Kid. That's what Mr. Miyagi did. Mr. Miyagi is like, you're a dumbass. Yeah, but just like with this shop out here, yeah, it was a lot of money, but put a price tag on what my boy alone has learned, and I haven't even had to show him. And you were never here, but Nick was. You could do nothing with the infrastructure that was on this farm before. Nothing. That's true.

I mean, so I'll just flip back up the other way. If I go, if I have all the parts to put a 400 EX together, I have every piece of a 400 EX forward. And I drive to the high school tomorrow and I say, I need this put together. You've got four days to do it. You can group up, you can do it together, or you can do it individually. There's a thousand bucks on the line. Whoever puts together the first gets a thousand bucks. Guarantee Henry ain't asking nobody. He's putting together himself.

I'm going to the bank with him and giving him a thousand bucks cash without a doubt. I've got no doubt. Henry's worked for me. He's getting that thousand bucks by himself. He's doing it all himself. That's the end of the story. He's not asking his basketball buddies who he's friends with. He's not asking my daughter who he's friends with to help him on that project. He's like, okay, Nick,

Give me the parts. I'll put it together. Call me in 87 minutes. He's probably done enough. He'll tell the rest of the school, you guys fucking team up and I'm still going to beat you. I'm going to go do it myself and ride this fuck around the shop. With a helmet on. The correct way for this to be written. You will not see that kid without a helmet. No, you will not. I was super proud of him the other day. It's a whole other subject, but I've had these conversations. The other day, met him on the road.

Not on the road. On a non-public highway. Right. With his helmet on. Correctly. Yeah. Because that's the way we had the lecture with him years and years ago. And he's never forgot it. That kid will not ride that son of a bitch from here to my mailbox. It's been 15 years ago, probably. Yeah. He wrecked his four-wheeler at my house. Well, he's 15 now. So he was about six years old when we done this. So 11 years ago. Yeah.

wrecked his four-wheeler at my house on the rock pile I had. I remember you chewing his ass. You didn't chew his ass. It's like, you okay? Yeah, I'm good. That's why we wear helmets. Yeah, I'm not hurt. Get back on and go. And it was fun.

Had an helmet on, no big deal. Not to say that's going to save you ever time, but it increases your chances. Yeah, it was about nine years ago. We just bought him that four-wheeler. Yep, just a little bitty Honda 80. As soon as he got the four-wheeler, I bought him a helmet. Didn't care what it cost. Had a little rock pile there in Nick's driveway. He was jumping it. It kept going faster and faster. Nick and I was drinking beer. We were like, you're going to pile this thing up. We were watching him. It's getting worse and worse. We know where this is going because

To back up this story a little bit, the day before that, my daughter had wrecked hers and my wife was stroking out. She worked the floor with her. What were you going to do? I'm like, nothing. What do you mean? I'm like, I did it 20 minutes before you got home with her. Like I had been riding it before she got home. I did the same thing on the same rock pile.

She got on it, did the same thing. I'm like, she'll be fine. She's learned her lesson. And we're talking to rock pilots knee high. Literally. Literally. This was nothing of a rock pilot. We're not talking mountains here. I'm like, yeah, me on a 90 is not the best scenario anyway. But I can throw it around because it's a 90 and I'm large. So I had pushed it to its limit and I had wrecked it. And then I put my daughter on it because that's what you do.

And then she did the same thing and wrecked it too. And she learned her lesson. And then Henry came over and he did the same thing on his four-wheeler and wrecked it. And then he learned his lesson. And now we're all happy. Now Tony and I are just sitting there drinking beer, watching them ride. And everything's good to go. But our wives are like, oh, what are you going to do about this? Nothing. That's what we're going to do. We're going to drink beer and watch them ride. It's fine. Yep. You know, I bought that four-wheeler for Henry. So we bought this farm in January of 16. His birthday's in February.

So as soon as we bought this farm, I'm like, well, help removing the country. These kids got to have a four-wheeler. So I found it on Facebook. He was an old John Deere mechanic, literally. He bought this thing. He just found it cheap. Thought, hell, I'm going to fix it up. Some little kid will want it, you know. So I bought it for 500 bucks, and this guy was just tickled shitless. You know, got up there and, oh, yeah, that's great, you know. So bought it. My kids rode the dog shit out of it. Well, then it got to where Henry was getting...

way too big for it. Like he'd already upgraded to a bigger four-wheeler, but he kept wanting to ride the little one because you could fuck around on it. I totally even told him to stay off it and he wouldn't stay off it. So I'm like, I'm getting rid of this fucker. You're going to tear it up. So I gave it to Ryan Beder.

So his boy rode it for a year or two. Then they upgraded him. So Ryan's like, would you want this thing back or what? And I'm like, you know, I don't, whatever. I don't care either way. So he's like, well, I'm coming up your way. He's like, I'm just going to throw it in and you can have it back. So I set my shop here for six months. And when I was doing that combine fire suppression system, them guys from Texas was here. And there was a guy there and he's like, yeah, he said, I got a,

five or six year old kid or whatever. He's like, man, you know, he'd really like to have something like that. I said, you back the truck up here and I'll help you throw it in. It's like, what? I said, you can have the son of a bitch. Are you serious? I said, yep. But I told him right as we load that. I said, here's a deal. I said, you tell that kid of yours, he has to wear a helmet when he rides this. Yeah. Maybe don't wear a helmet. I'm expecting you to bring the motherfucker back from Texas. You're going to drive it all the way back here and you're going to put it back in my shop. Being aware helmet, I ain't giving it to you.

nope nope here we're he'll wear a helmet i said okay that's fine i said you beat in his head to wear a helmet yep i'll do that so it's gone so yep yeah that's like my daughter riding the four-wheeler you know my wife getting you know she's not crabby about but oh worrying about it and stuff and i'm like it's just great they want to drive something yeah yeah let them drive

All right, we're back fresh off a piss break. Now we're going to steer this thing. We might go off the rails here. I don't know. I mean, we've been pretty tame up until now. We have been, yeah. What do you guys think? Just seen on the TV out in the shop, old Trump says America's open for business. What do you think? Good things. I'm glad to see it. Yeah. Glad to see it. Time to start setting an example. Stomp a mud hole in somebody's ass.

Yeah, I'm actually disappointed. I've been checking every day, and Google Maps has not updated the Gulf of Mexico to the Gulf of America, and I'm going to fucking email Google first thing in the morning. Probably liberals. That's the liberals. Yeah, it's Google. That's ours, Gulf of America. Day one, Trump solves global warming. Snow in Florida. Yep, yep, yep. I love, did you guys happen to catch the clip?

on the news of they arrested some Haitian guy that's been convicted of numerous crimes. He's like, I'm not going back to Haiti. Fuck Donald Trump. And his dad's like, well, buddy, you're in the back of a cop car. Looks like you're going back, bud. I think so. You know what we need? There's no Haitians. I'm good there. We can...

We can get rid of all of them. Sending troops to the border. It's time to put this, which I'm totally on board with because I don't care if they're building the wall. I don't know what they're doing. I don't care what they're doing. But I know how government works. If we're going to build the wall, it's going to have to be some government contract. Yeah. You know, and paying. We're paying those troops anyway. Yeah. Get some C-10 cargo planes lined up. If you've got to land them at O'Hare and just start filling them up with people to get them out of here. Yep. Do it.

I wouldn't even land the planes. I'd just fly over to Mexico and let them go. Yeah. You got over here on your own free will. I guess we'll take you back, and you can mind your way from there. Mm-hmm. Well, I'd...

Guess what, motherfucker? You're part of the 101st Airborne. Yeah, yeah. Now you're a paratrooper. We're going to swoop right over Mexico. One okay, two okay. You jump at the green light, motherfucker. Yeah. You know how they got information on people in Vietnam? You shove the first couple guys out, the last guy is chatty. Yeah. He's chatty. No, I think, yeah, if they want to immigrate legally...

I don't even need that. We've got plenty of people. We're good. You're not wrong either. There's no Haitian gangster that's looking to immigrate legally. No. How many dairy farms do you think in the Midwest milking 4,000 or 5,000 cows? Take your pick. Thousands of cows have trampled people, put people out of business, jerked around milk quotas, all this other bullshit for the simple fact that they have illegal...

help working for them. Would they be milking that many cows if it wasn't for illegal? Yeah. No. You think they'd get a roof on your house with legal help. Right. And I think about that. It's sheetrock and drywall. It's roofs. Although the Amish have a lot of that, too. They do. But...

Still, like... The other thing about that is, like, once this goes to the next generation of those immigrants, whether it be legal or not, you can't call them illegal immigrants because they're not immigrants at that point. They're just criminals. But once they get a generation over here that speaks English, et cetera, et cetera, they're just cutting the white guy out of that deal. They're just running those crews.

Taking that business and rolling with it. And they honestly buy as little as they can here to send the money home. You know? Yeah. No, I think too many businesses use these people to grow their business. Yeah. And, you know...

They like to paint it as we give them opportunity. Right. But I like to look at it as... They've got plenty of opportunity in their own countries to make it good, but they don't. Yeah. Right. Because I'm like you, and you brushed on it a little bit in the last podcast. So if we're getting into this gray area that, well, I probably wouldn't be milking cows if it wasn't for these guys. Even though they're illegal and now I'm technically illegal because I've hired the illegals.

So if we can get into illegal stuff to grow our business, then I'll just go rob a bank tomorrow then. I'm a little low on cash. I'll just go rob a bank and all is well. I mean, it's your family business. Yeah. What's the difference? I think that makes you a part of the Biden crime panel maybe. Could you launder some money in your crane and get it back? Can I get a blanket pardon on that? I don't know. I think when they say people won't work.

You can't get, you know, traditional born here in the U.S. Americans to do these jobs. It's like, yeah, you can. You just have to pay them. You have to pay more, you know. And you've got to stop the welfare. Yeah. Yeah, by paying them to do the job. Yeah. Not sit on the couch. Well, and once again, the people that don't work, don't, you know, they're just strictly welfare, whatever. Don't work, don't eat.

I don't imagine those are happy people. So give people a purpose, right? Because you know how it is with a kid. Look at your son. He started making a little bit of money, and then he's like, I want to make more money so I can get more stuff. So give these people a chance to work. And like I say with the farming thing, like,

You can't hire a guy to drive the 806 with the 400 cyclo, right? You can't hire a guy to do that job for you in this day and age, right? Springtime, he's going to run around the clock, right? It's hard to do that. Yeah. But the guy, there's a lot of people that would drive the 806 for themselves. Yeah. Yeah.

You know? Yeah. So if your business is built on we need illegal labor, et cetera, so I can run my family farm, you're taking away a family farm from this guy. Right. By doing that. That's not right. Agreed. Now, if you want to milk 5,000 cows, do it with legal help. Yeah. I guess. So be it. Yeah. You know. But if you're doing this dependent on illegal labor, that's not right. Right.

No, they're criminals. Right. You know? Yeah, I totally agree with that. You know, and wouldn't it get some people going if they deported these people and then they arrested the guys that hired them? Yeah. Or they should. You know? They should make it happen. Well, to me, when it comes to all them guys, you know, when you start talking about where you're trampling all over people, ruining communities and this and that, well, who doesn't want to grow their business? Who doesn't want to grow their business? Well, if we can do it illegally then, then I'm all for it then because I'm going to grow my business too then. Yeah.

So which way are we doing? Do we got capitalism or we got crony capitalism? I mean, which way are we going here? Right. So that's where I get a little sideways. It comes down to less, you know, greed, jealousy, our problems and doing business.

I said that on that panel, I'm like, don't be an asshole. You know? I mean, just don't be a fuckhead to everybody else. Yeah. You know? I mean, maybe just run the 806 instead of saying, well, now I need a, you know, AFS Connect Magnum, and in order to pay for it, I'm going to have to steal this ground away or, you know. Yeah. Just drive the 806. It's all right.

Yeah. Too much pride in farming nowadays. It is. Well, we talked about the pickup truck thing. Like, look at the new pickups farmers drive, and it's become normalized. Like, well, fuck, I can't be caught driving that old pickup. $100 says tomorrow that Nick... What's your good truck? What year is that? Oh... 13. Okay, 13. $100 says tomorrow that if...

We'll use your phone. So with your followers on TikTok, so that way I know, well, you got more followers than I do. We'll use your phone and we'll do a video of your 13 truck and we'll do a video of my 78 truck and see who gets more comments. Just put it in there. Which truck do you like better? Do you like the 13 better or the 78 better? Yeah. I think it's a misconception. Everybody thinks that everybody wants the newest and the biggest and the best and whatever.

I don't think that's the case. No. No, I don't think so either. I mean, if you drove down the road in the springtime and you see a guy with an AFS Connect Magnum planting, you're going to look. You see a guy in an 806 with an ice cream box cab, like, hats off to you, fella. Well, if you see that guy running that 806 with a 400 Cyclo eight-row wide, you might pull over and watch for a minute. Yeah. You know? Yeah.

I mean... Unfortunately, people that are younger than us don't know what the hell we just said. Well, that's why we're here. Which is as much as our fault as anybody's. But they don't even know... We said 806, they don't know that. 400, they don't know that. Wide row, they don't know that. Ice cream box cab, they don't know that either. Which is not their fault. No. It's just the way things went. But... But I think people...

should enjoy enjoy the farm enjoy your time out there doing it be happy with you have it's like quit fucking worrying about what everybody else has absolutely yeah you know i mean it's really we're all gonna die i mean like tony i've talked a thousand times in 100 years those nobody's gonna give two shits who owns this farm they're not you know

Well, fuck, you know, I... They might only have the fact that it got handed down correctly. Well, you know, Grandpa Tony did this, that, and the other. Then they might. But if it just goes on the full sake of business, they're not going to know. Well, nobody cares that, well, you know, my field goal was only a 42-footer. I didn't have enough tractor to pull a, you know...

A 50. The average Joe in the communities that we live in, there's 400 people in one town, 700 in the other, whatever the numbers are, that have lived in this farming community their whole life wouldn't know a disc from a field cultivator from a planter. The vast majority of them. Right. So do you really think they know an 8RX from an 806 from an 8310? No. They see a tractor.

They don't know what it is. They don't know how new it is. You could have an 806 with new paint to them. That's just as new as a three 40 AFS connect. You know that. Yeah. In junior high school. So we went, uh, seventh, eighth, ninth at the junior high. Now they have a middle school and stuff. This was the old junior high when they were still on us. Yeah. Yeah. Um,

But ag class started in ninth grade. So all us ag kids decided we were going to drive our tractors to school, to the junior high. One teacher made a comment, a buddy of mine, his dad had restored a 1936, 1937 John Deere B, and it was all painted up with new tires. And she goes, well, that's a new tractor, right?

Yeah. Sure. Yeah. Before Pearl Harbor, that was a new tractor. Absolutely. Yes. Jeez. But, yeah, and that's what kills me. Farmers talk about, well, they're so far removed from their food, and they don't know this, they don't know that. But, God damn it, I got to get that new tractor. You know, somebody's going to see me in an older one. They don't even know where their food comes from. Do you think they really fucking know tractor sizes? I mean... No. That they do not. Yeah. Like I said, just...

Kind of learn to be content. And there's nothing wrong with wanting to improve your business or grow your business. There's not. But don't be an asshole doing it either. Yeah. You know, and if you're content with what you have and really appreciate that, you're

You're doing a good thing. You know, and maybe then we could go back to some more of the, okay, we can appreciate farmers a little bit more. But it's really hard to feel sorry for a lot of the people of this group. I don't feel sorry for anybody going broke with a shed full of new machinery. Right. No. Right. I don't feel sorry for any kids that are 50 years old that are complaining that their dad won't get out of the way that's 85 years old and owns 4,000 acres and...

You guys should have had these conversations a long time ago. Yeah. But it just looked to me like it was gravy street. And so that's the, you know, that's what you went down. And so don't bitch at me about it. I mean,

Well, and let's, maybe we don't need quite so many corn and beans. You know, let's, so instead of the crop insurance premiums, what if we incentivize some other crops? You know, small, like the small grain stuff. Looks like to me somewhere's running out of hay every year. Right.

Somebody's burning up every year. Well, in theory, if you believe in sequestering carbon, what's better than a perennial hay crop that you're going to have in that field for six years? I mean, you're collecting this carbon. So do some of that because let's just say tomorrow, okay, we made a deal with China. They're going to increase. They'll take...

They won't export or, you know, import anything from South America. They're going to get all their export needs from us or import needs from us. For a year and a half, we'd be like, oh, we're making money. You know, it'd be hand over fist. We'd, you know, the dealerships couldn't keep enough new pickups, right? In five years, there'd be guys going, I just can't make it on this, you know, $10 corn. Just going broke on $10 corn here, you know.

So that's not the answer to me. And then I think you could bring back some smaller farms. Yep. And then give people work. Like, I think that's a real thing. Like, kids feel a sense of, I was proud of my daughter, sliding barn door, get the cattle out. It came off the, you know, the one roller came through, you know, and she couldn't get it on. And she went to the shop and got a hammer and,

Some long, like seven sixteenths or three eighths bolts. And she was going to try and figure out how the hell she was going to stop that roller from coming off of there. And I'm like, by golly, she's that, that work like doing work. There's, you know, other kids her age that wouldn't know anything about that and wouldn't even try. But yeah, you know, how about tax breaks for, if you're a farmer, your kids don't give a shit about, they live in Chicago, uh,

So it's like, you know what? If you'll sell your ground to a non-family member beginning farmer, you'll cut the inheritance tax way, way back or something, you know, whatever that scenario could be. Because we can't have this shit of just selling it to a younger farmer because that's a no-brainer. Well, I'm Joe Blow, Kingpin at 84. My son happens to be 30. So, yeah, I'm going to go ahead and sell it to him to beat the tax. No, it don't work that way. So what I brought up was...

So you got stepped up basis. What you could do is almost eliminate stepped up basis. So here's this wealthy farmer over here, big farmer over there. It's offering $15,000 an acre for this piece of ground. And your basis in it, I don't know, let's just say you had paid $4,000 for it or whatever. So you're going to get taxed on the $11,000 at 15% or whatever. But you sell it to the younger farmer tax-free.

At a lower price. Yeah. You know? Yep. And it'd be real easy. I mean, there'd be no getting around it from, you know, the kid of the, you know, BTO. There's beginning farmer, young farmer, FSA programs. They got to fill all this shit out and keep up with it. So in order to qualify for this program, this is how it is. And the same thing could be said of a land contract. So...

If you sell it to this kid at a reduced rate on the land contract, so let's just say, you know, right now, farmland prices, bare farmland, you're talking seven and a half, eight, right? You'd sell it to this kid for three tax-free or, you know, or whatever the, say, that interest you'd be taxed at a third. So lower the interest rate down to five and a half. You sell it to this kid five and a half tax-free. Yeah. You know, I think there's ways...

To do this and put some strings on it so the kid can't just turn around and slip it. But, you know, but nobody wants to hear that because it's not fair to the old farmers. Yeah. Yeah.

Gosh, I've worked my whole life to take ground from people all around here. Now you're going to make it so I can't steal. I've got $25 million in the bank and no kids. I mean, I shouldn't have to pay that. I don't mean to sound like a socialist. I'm not, but let's be realistic. Do you want to do what's good for the industry or do you just want to die and we shove $25 million in a hole and it's gone? I mean, what are we doing? Well, and I think you've got to look at the...

It's almost getting to the point that it's almost like some of these environmental laws. Yeah. So let's just say, you know what? Fuck it. It's nothing but capitalism. Lead pipes, leaded gasoline, that's all on the table, right? Yep. We were messing people up with this stuff. So we regulated against some of these things. Same as like, you know, it's free market, so...

You know, this Dow chemical plant over here, you know, they've got some waste chemicals. Dump it in the fucking ground. Screw it. You know, we regulate against this stuff for the better good. So isn't it good to have more small farms, especially in rural economy, and to give people purpose? You think so, yes. So then that's worth something.

To regulate for or, you know, like I said, let's pull the fucking crop insurance subsidies. Let's put that towards some of this stuff. Yeah. You know, because a lot of this ground or crop insurance, you're a beginning farmer. You can have crop insurance, subsidized crop insurance because you need it. You literally need it. The rest of them, because then this, you know, young guy starting out.

The big guy is like, oh, this shitty piece of ground we've been running that's sandy, you know, or whatever that it's hit and miss. Well, it's not worth it without crop insurance, so we're just going to let that go. That's the first piece for this young guy. He could start, right? So here's his shot at this, and he can insure it, you know. So, I mean, these guys talk about it pisses. That's one of my biggest pet peeves right now.

Is the, well, none of these young guys want to do this work. We've all been on TikTok. There's a shitload of young guys that wish they could farm. Would love to farm. Maybe if he was 20 years in, still couldn't get away to farm. Right. These guys want to do this, but nope. You know, we need to get people involved in agriculture. We need these guys. They want you to fucking haul grain for them or they want you to run the sprayer at the co-op. Yeah. That's it. Yep.

They're not like, here, farm some land yourself. Yeah. Turns out I can't get that many people to get that much done in that time frame. Yep, right. Because I'm to the point now, if this is the status quo that we're going to take...

that everybody's just going to run wild, trample over each other, backstab each other, and this and that, that I'm to the point, get all the kids out of that. Don't be a seed salesman, a chemical salesman. If that's the way you guys want this, then let's just go full bore. Then you call Monsanto, Bayer, whatever, directly on the phone in St. Louis, wherever they're at, and you just deal with them then. We don't need salesmen running up and down the road. All I'm saying is, why are we kicking the can down the road, prolonging, prolonging? Let's just pull the band-aid off and get it over with then.

If that's where we're headed, then let's just do it now and get it over with then. Let's have five farmers in the county or less, and that's it. I think we should go with the Caterpillar model of just one per state. Yeah. I mean, seriously, that's where we're headed. Yeah. Yes. But nobody ever wants to talk about any of this shit that, you know, oh, you can't do this or you can't do that because it gets in my checkbook, but it's going to be bad for the industry. But as long as I don't have to pay for it, then we're good, you know, and I'm done with it. And then these same guys...

are saying, you know, you can't have these programs to help these young farmers. You can't have any of that stuff. Fucking socialism. Then they're like, by the way, we need tax money to fix the locks and dams because then we can be more competitive with our grain. Yeah. You know. Yeah, so what's that all about? Right. I mean, to me, the guy that lives in a city that don't move any grain shouldn't have to be. Yeah, well, it's not his problem. Yeah, exactly. Well, he's buying the grain. He's benefiting from it. Well, I don't give a shit. It ain't his product.

Well, he ain't benefiting from that grain because it's an export. Exactly. So, yeah, domestically, we better fix the roads so we can haul the grain to feed the livestock to do all this. But, fuck, that's going down the Mississippi River and out the Gulf. Fuck, that don't do the American any good. Nope. You know? So...

It's real easy to say, well, these programs or that socialism or we can't have this, we can't have that. But it's like, well, are we turning this whole thing into apocalyptic at this point? That's like we talked to this shed earlier. And I'm all for capitalism. People are going to argue that I'm not or whatever. But if we're going to keep going down the road we're on, you're going to end up with Walmart, Amazon, John Deere, and three farmers in the world. It's basically the jobs you're going to have left. Yeah. Yep.

You're going to buy a house from Amazon one of these days. I mean, if this is the route we truly want to go down, this is where we're going to be. And if that's what the American people want to do, then so be it, I guess. It's not my decision to make, but I think that's a bad road to go down. Well, if we don't have – you have to have work for people, a sense of accomplishment,

They need that. Otherwise, so people become cattle at that point. You get the living wage. You want to talk about birth control. When it's a living wage thing, they're going to, I mean, this becomes, you know. Absolutely. You know, China where they're telling you how many kids you can have. They're doing this. They're doing that. We become cattle at that point. So I would much rather you took this 40,000-acre farmer and you split that up with 200,000.

you know, 200-acre farms. Yeah. You know? And I guess we should clarify, too. I'm not just picking on ag and saying this is all we should do. I can relate to this because that's what we're in. Yeah. Do you think J.B. Hunt should have 28,000 trucks? I don't know what the number is, but it's a fucking shitload. I mean, that ain't fair in the trucking industry, you know, because they get government fucking passes on a bunch of shit.

The only thing with the trucking industry is, though, they're dying for owner-operators and small fleets. Like, they'll broker their freight out. So, like, if you want to start a trucking company tomorrow, if you got the money, you can just go do it, right? Yeah. It don't really work that way in agriculture. Right. Yeah, it's a different animal. Absolutely. You know, so I kind of, I mean, something's got to be, we need to work on this thing because, you know.

If we don't, we know how this is going to go. Yep. I mean, and we don't have... It's easy to say someday we need to look at this, but we're running out of time because the baby boomers are getting old. And when they're gone, I mean, think how many acres are still owned by baby boomers and still farmed by baby boomers, not even just rented out, that are still farming. Yeah. So you're going to see these big farms get so big that, you know...

There'll be no hope at some point here. Yeah, and we're, man, I mean, we're right there now. Yeah, I mean, it's... I mean... But that's why I was kind of excited about the stuff like, you know, the RFK thing with the beef tallow. He wants beef tallow instead of seed oil. Well, you know, that takes more cattle, right? Right. Well, cow-calf. You know, it's pretty hard to...

It's pretty hard for cow-calf to be consolidated the way it is in dairy, hogs. Yeah. Because, you know, it takes acres and it takes poor quality acres even, you know, in management, et cetera. I think there's, you know, I think that's an opportunity. That's a good thing, you know, but, man, I mean, you want to just keep going on this route, that's...

So be it. But, you know, pretty soon, I think some of these big farmers have the wrong thinking in a lot of ways. A lot of ways they're wrong. But the one thing is these guys think I'm the big wheel when I'm the only one. I've got them by the balls. Yeah. I think it's backwards. I think they've got you backwards.

By the balls. Yeah. You know? Yeah. Because if there's only one of you, how many more seed companies are left? Yeah. Yeah. How many chemical suppliers, et cetera? They're just going to fucking own you. Yeah. I mean, at that point, why wouldn't, if you're the only farmer left in the U.S. and I'm DeKalb, and I know you have to buy your seed corn for me. Yeah. There's no, you can get it no other way. Do you think I'm going to say, ah, you're a big farmer, 50 bucks a bag, you can have it? Yeah. Yeah.

No. You can't get it nowhere else, and you're the only guy I'm dealing with. Nope. And at that point... To me, there it goes to $1,000 a bag. Yeah. I don't care if you make money or not. That ain't my problem. Yeah. If you're going to give me $1,000 a bag, take it or leave it. If not... Where else are you going to get it? Yeah. And they didn't get... You didn't get that big owning all that land or having... I mean, you're leveraged to get that big, right? Yep. So pretty soon, you've got the...

you know the bank sitting down and telling you this is what you're gonna do yep you know and the bank says we don't like to kelp you're you're gonna have to plant channel no and you're like what i i really like to kelp and they're like no yeah yeah i mean people will get you by the short hairs and then there's always somebody that that wants it next yep and

I'm not trying to call them out specifically because I don't know them, but there's a hell of a lot of shit going on like the McBees. A lot of crop insurance fraud. A lot of it. A lot of acres for rent. It's funny. I've caught wind of, you know, several, but I mean several big farmers around here that, you know, they're supposedly good farmers. I mean, rent me your guy. Hell, I can raise better crops than he does.

I've heard a lot of rumors, like there was a lot of 250-bushel corn around here this year for the average Joe. A lot of theirs made 150. That's what they're blowing to all the coffee shops. And everybody's like, well, why would they be doing that? I'm like, because it's a big fucking crop insurance fraud game is what it is. I can't go to the coffee shop and say it made 250. Yeah. And then the insurance man finds out that I turned in 150. Now we got a problem. Yeah. So...

Yeah, I hope this thing is coming full circle. I don't think it will. From what I've seen, there's always a bailout. I mean, we're getting government money here shortly, right? Yeah. There's always a bailout. Them guys never fail. Never. When was the last time a big farmer, big farmer went down in your area? You've always got your outliers. You're Steve McBees. I could not tell you the last time a 2,000-acre or more farmer went down in this area. I mean, it's – I don't know if it's ever been in my lifetime. Yeah.

No, probably not. Yeah, something changed along the way, and it's called crop insurance fraud. So they don't need to bail out. Like, they don't have to go file for it. Like, they just make it. This is our bailout. You're going to pay us. Yeah. Because there's no checks and balances. Yeah, and I mean, how many poor acres get farmed just because of it? How many guys have livestock that just mysteriously lose 50,000 bushels?

Went through a hog or a cow. You don't use an insurance. You don't know. There's no way to prove that at all. Yeah, just tell them in the field. They're grass-fed. So I got loud clippings. That's why I've been feeding them fuckers. Exactly. They're out there eating hay. Yep. So at the end of the day, I honestly think, I mean, if you want to farm, just go do it. Bid it up to whatever it takes because there's always a safety net. Always. It never fails. Either the market does turn or they give...

Just direct payments. Yeah. And it always comes out in a wash. Yeah, it's like the numbers got so big that Congress is afraid now to let farmers fail or they have enough farm credit or somebody has that much. Half them guys protect them fuckers anyway. They got their crop insurance. You can't tell me the ages don't know what's going on.

right i call bullshit on that all day long they know exactly what's going on but i'm making a fucking pile off this guy because he's farming 10 000 acres so i'm not saying nothing all i'm doing is reporting the numbers that he gave to me yeah so at the end of the day it's his ass if shit really goes south i know he's fucking the system but i ain't saying nothing why would you right yep no i think i i do kind of think yeah let's let's

Definitely change. Is it not? Is crop insurance fraud and all that, which granted it's a little harder for me to prove that you're committing fraud. You know what I mean? Yeah. But I've always said for years, everybody talks about, you know, how disability and all these people laying on the couch, you know, it's just out of control. Well, I've personally never done anything to correct it. I don't know if you, I mean, we can all name 10 people on disability who should not be on disability.

Have we ever took care of it? I never have. No. So whose fault is it then? Yeah. Yeah. You're not wrong. I mean, if your kid walks up and takes a shit in the middle of your living room and you don't do nothing about it and they do it again day after day after day, is it the kid's fault or your fault? Right. You never told them any different. Yeah. So nobody wants to do anything for the betterment of the country. Nobody wants to rock the boat. Nobody wants to look like the asshole. And I'm as guilty as anybody. Yeah. Yeah. No, I get it. So we've done it ourselves. And this is the result you end up with.

Yeah, at some point, inflation just has to be bonkers insane. Yep. It'll be like most of the other stuff from the baby boomers. We've got six, seven years left, and then once they all start dying off, then every one of us are going to get stuck holding with this, and that's when shit's going to get real fucking wild, I got a feeling. Yeah. I really do. You're going to be...

paying social security and never collecting social security. Yeah, and they're literally going to say, well, we've got a shortfall there, so, well, that 401K you got, we're going to have to tax that pretty heavily now, so basically just take it all. Yeah. And our generation will be the lost generation that gets fucked in the middle. I promise you, as sure as I'm sitting at this desk, our generation will get fucked blind on this. We have our whole life. Why wouldn't we get it at the end? Yeah. I mean, we're truly a generation that want to be fucked with.

I've seen thousands of video on tech talks of it. And we truly are. We've seen all the old shit come up through the eighties. You work your ass off, get promised the world. Everybody fucks you in the end. And so it's to the point where it's just kind of like what we're sitting around like right now. I just want to farm 300 acres and nobody, I don't talk to fucking nobody ever. The baby boomers want to farm 30,000 acres and blow it all over the coffee shop and a big swing and dick contest.

The generation below us, I don't know if they care about farming, but they don't care about being left alone, you know, whatever. But we're just the generation in the middle that's like, just leave me the fuck alone. I just want to farm 300 acres and just shut up and fuck it. Yep. Yeah, I think that's the goal all of us agree on is just, I just want a full-time farm. Yeah. That's it. Ain't asking for the world, half the county, new quad tracks, ain't asking for none of that. Nope. Give me the 806 on the front there. Yeah. We're good. We're content. You know. And...

That kills me when people are like, can't make a living. What's a living? Yeah, exactly. You know, I mean, there's a difference between a living and... My living and Mark Zuckerberg's living are two different things, but they're both considered a living. Right. But what's your living? Yeah. Yeah. No, no, it's... I think if more people could just be content, you know, and don't be a fucking asshole. Yeah. Just don't be an asshole. Yep.

And truthfully, I'm getting, well, I clearly don't give a fuck, but I'm getting old enough now that I'm to the point I'm just going to promote all the big shit. And then when it goes down, I'll be like, oh, yeah, sorry. I mean, I mean, sir, what the fuck have any of them done for us? I've never had any big farmer out here come to me. Well, you know, I'm going to quit farming. You know, I've got 4,000 acres. I'm going to split it up between six or eight. You young guys and let you roll with it. Never. And you never will.

They buy it for a song and a dance, rent it for a song and a dance, but boy, when it comes time to return the favor, fuck that. Cash rent auction at the courthouse, boys. That's just the way they roll. No, that was for me, and it's so funny. You know, people would give you a hard time because you don't farm as many acres as them. You know, too many people tie their identity to the number of acres they run, and I was always like, I'll farm less.

I'm going to try and do some of this other stuff, the tiling, trucking, whatever I got to do extra too because I wanted to buy some ground. Yeah. Because then I could, you know, 200 tillable acres owned was always a goal for me because I went, you know, I'm going to farm that 200 acres after I lose all the rented ground, after all the fucking guys get really big, and I can still enjoy what I do on my thing. And if you're debt-free...

you know, you'll be all right. And then eventually they aren't going to be able to take it anymore. They're just going to start throwing you massive numbers so they can get yours too. And then it's like, now we're going to cash in. Yep. And that's really my biggest pet peeve with that older generation. Like if you, let's just say you farm 2,000 acres now, but you inherit it all from your mom and dad and you've never rented any, you just farm 2,000 acres and you're content with it.

I have no problem with that if you want to rent it to the high bidder at the end. But I've been told numerous times by numerous baby boomers that, boy, you know, things got pretty tight. You know, I just got married, and, man, you know, it was going to get tight. But, boy, old Joe down the road, he come down and rented me that 80, you know, and, boy, that's when it turned around, you know. But now when it comes time to return the favor that Joe gave you, well, we forgot all about that. You know, in the same breath, they'll tell you that, well, you know, we're just going to.

You know, so I don't know. And it ain't my land. I guess I shouldn't even say it because it ain't my land. It's a free country. Do what you want. But I'm just tired of the guys that won't repay the favor that got done to them, you know? Yeah. Yeah, well, it comes back to don't be a fucking asshole. Yeah. You know, if you do it, there's too many people that don't believe that this life is temporary. Yeah. Because if you do believe that,

Some of the things you do, you wouldn't, right? Yep. You know, like I said, there's nothing wrong with wanting to grow your business or do a little better job, but you know how many guys, you see them running a pile of ground and they're doing a horseshit job at it anyways. You know, they're not even doing... So I always say that too. It's like, well, do all your own work first. Yeah. So, you know, they're going to hire this done, they're going to hire that done. It's like, well, farm all your acres first. Yeah. Then you can worry about some more or something. But see...

They say, well, I farm 500 acres. That doesn't sound as impressive as they can say 5,000 acres. Meanwhile, they're not making any money on it. The only money they're making is on the ground, the family-owned land or whatever. It's like, do all your own work first. I would even take this better if one of the baby boomers, or whatever you want to call it, was just honest and said, you know what?

I'm 75. I'm going to retire. I got 3,000 acres here. And I'm just going to be honest with you. I fucking, I done whatever it took to get ground. You know, if they're dishonest, I fucked my neighbor over. I don't care. I took, I never took to get ground and I'm done now. And if they said, I'm going to rent to the high bidder, that's like, well, I guess that's cool because that was the way you got it. You played the high bid game and that's how you got it. So whatever. But I just get so tired of the sob stories that

They were going broke, couldn't make it, just had kids, blah, blah, blah. Man, if it wasn't for this, I wouldn't have made it, this and that. But then they just won't return the favor on the backside. That's what drives me nuts. But if you fucked everybody along the way and now you just want to go high bid, I have no problem with that. I truly don't because that was the way you rolled, and so that's the way you're going to continue to roll. But don't take the favor but not repay the favor on the backside.

Yes. That's like me coming to milk your cows, and then as soon as I call you, you're like, why would I come milk your cows? That's kind of shitty, ain't it? Yeah. So what's the difference? Yeah. No, it just comes down to people got to be better. Just be decent in life and, you know. Yeah. If my life never changed one ounce right now, status quo to the day I died, let's just say I live to be 75 and I die at 75.

But if nothing changes between now and then, I'm 100% content. Yeah. Like, I don't have a million dollars in the bank now, and I don't need a million dollars in the bank then. Most of the guys that have it don't spend it or enjoy it. So what good does it do you? Yeah. Some of the most miserable people I've ever known. Absolutely. Used to work for one. Yeah. I mean, just the way it is. Yeah. It makes no sense to me. None whatsoever.

If you want to live a lavish lifestyle and have to make a million dollars a year, then I guess that's cool. But none of us do. So what's the point? Yeah, be more content. Be a good person. That's what we need more of. Yep. And I've always, and this is going to sound real shitty, but I've always been on the page that when I die, if there's something here to leave my kids, great. But if there's not, that wasn't my problem.

I had to go out and get it on my own. Yeah. And if that's what it took to get me through my life and it's gone when I die, then I don't know what to tell you. I have never inherited anything from my mom and dad and they're not big, well-to-do people. I have no idea what they're worth. They could be worth a hundred thousand. They could be worth a hundred million. I have no idea.

But I'm going to tell you it's probably the previous versus the latter. Yeah. But I'm not expecting nothing either. I'm not just sitting here wringing my hands. You know, God dang it. Mom and Dad, if they were just out of the way. So, no. This ain't my jam. I'm going to do my thing. Well, I've told them. I'm like, it's yours. Spend it. Yeah. And I think they will. I think they're taking me up on that offer. I'm pretty sure. Sure. You know. But, yeah, this...

You know, and that goes back to the inheritance tax stuff and that. These guys are like, I'm going to give this to them. There's a price to be paid by doing that. And nobody wants to talk about that. You know. And there's ways around it. Gosh, if you've really got a kid that wants to farm, it's pretty simple. You sell them the fucking farm. Yep.

To me, it's extremely easy for me to sit here and talk and judge and whatever you want to call what we're doing here. But me personally, and I think I can put my hand to the Bible and say this right now, if I owned 300 acres and I had money in the bank and I'm going to retire, like I'm not saying I'm buying Cadillacs every day of the week, but I can live comfortably and retire and be fine. I would get more out of a kick of renting it to a younger guy that needed it

and sit on my front porch and watch his kid farm just for the self-pride of, you know what, I might have changed this kid's family tree. Maybe, maybe not. He may go broke the year after I die. I don't know. And I'm not saying leave him in the ground, but give him the chance to farm it at a fair price for everybody. I would get more of a kick out of that and more of a legacy out of that versus, wow, just big swinging dick, 10,000 acres, rolling, you know, I mean. And to each their own on that. I'm not saying I'm right, and that's what everybody should do, but...

But I guess when you get to the pearly gates in heaven, I mean, what's... That's what I mean. Just be it. I mean, the Bible talks, and don't get me wrong, I'm not going to sit here and be no Billy Graham. I mean, people pretty much know me and the language that I use, but I am a good person. And the Bible talks extensively about greed. Right. And there's a lot of that going on. Yeah. I mean, like I said, this life is temporary. So when you think about that...

It's like, oh, maybe I should just, maybe getting this, you know, that X9 isn't quite as important. Right. You know. And actually, though, truth, that's what helps me sleep at night, knowing that I'm not knocking on doors, begging, running over people. You know, I sleep just fine because I'm not doing that. And if you have to do that to make another five grand this year,

Then whatever. Because, I mean, the Bible talks too about how you should treat your neighbors. Yeah. I mean, I'm pretty sure that's in one of the Ten Commandments. Yeah. But we've thrown that one clear out the window. So, whatever. Like I said, just don't be an asshole. Yeah. And life will, and I promise you...

That your life will be better. Karma will be better for you. And I'm not saying if you're not an asshole that that means this little old lady is going to give you a whole bunch of ground or something. Yeah, yeah. But I think in life you'll find... I think it's more of a mental game. Like I said, sure, I don't have near the money that most of these big guys around here have, but I don't care. I can sleep at night. And I mean, I suppose they probably can too, but I can honestly sleep at night. You know what I mean? Right. And I think there's just a...

A sense of, hey, we got Nick Snorin over here. Yeah. It's a first on the podcast. I just thought he was really deep in thought, getting ready for a really good one, and then, yeah. Yeah.

But we could really just say all kinds of stuff. I mean, I'll bet if we wake him up. I'm pretty sure that the John Deere injector is probably the greatest design ever. Nick, wouldn't you agree? Yep. Soundguard cabs and Peter belts all the way up. I'll bet you $100. Like, we could lay this whole thing out there when you tap him on the shoulder and be like, wouldn't you say, yep, yep, whatever. We could get him to agree that a John Deere 6030 was the greatest tractor ever built.

If you play your cards right here. Well, I mean, I think that the 619 factory replacement block was totally legal, and I think it was the right move for NTPA. Yeah. Yeah, I wouldn't have a red tractor shoved up my ass sideways. I mean, I really wouldn't. Yeah, no. I mean, is there a more overrated tractor than a 1466? I don't think so. No. No. Gosh. I mean, just think of the...

Deere's been ripped off by IH on that Rotary Combine deal since the 1950s. Oh, for sure. For sure. Yep. Same with Volvo semis. Junk. Oh, gosh. I mean, gosh. Talk about German engineering. I mean... You know? If nobody looked cool rolling into the bar with a Volvo shirt on, I mean, come on. No. No, I just assumed you were a Prince fan because wasn't it the...

As it turns out. Bumpy, but see if he agrees. We need to wrap this up anyway. Nick, Nick, Nick, wouldn't you agree? It's got to be the way it goes, doesn't it? You think? You've heard it right here. I think that's the perfect ending. Oh, and he voted for Biden. Absolutely.

Free for everyone. Well, that's the first time we've ever had anybody snoring on the podcast, so we made that one rather interesting, I guess. Oh, my God. Wake up and piss. The world's on fire. Yeah, I'm not that concerned. Yep. I guess he'll have to find this one out on his own. I don't know. Yep.

It happens. We really came together as a group at the end. We really did. Yeah, we all... We did. We all agree on a lot of stuff. I mean, you wouldn't think so, but at the end of the day, we're not that different. Nope.

Yeah, we went way long on this one. Yeah, we got to cut her off there, guys. We'll see you next time. Later. Yeah. Yeah, same here.