Nick Battles it out with an old friend.
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Hello, folks. Welcome back to the Straight Forward Farming Podcast. I'm your host, Tony Reid, alongside Nick McCormick, as always, with more guests in the house tonight. Absolutely. I don't know what we're going to talk about. Don't know where this is going to go, so...

as we always say you can't hold us liable for anything that gets said here we've got some guests from western illinois which is pretty much a whole southern or another country it is you're right it's like the area missouri didn't want and illinois can't find yep exactly so you guys go ahead introduce yourselves yeah i don't care if we go left right right to left whichever you guys want to do i'm alex kerr kerr auction kerr equipment from western illinois where nick says no roads go to that's true this is true i don't know how you guys gonna get home

I'm not going home. I'm going to Arkansas. Yeah. Yep. They do not believe in the Eisenhower Interstate System over there. There are no roads that go there. Uh-huh. Okay. Man number two. I'm Matt McCaskill from Timewell. Okay. All right. So there you have it.

So what do you guys want to talk about? Anything in particular? No, I mean, if we could have just recorded what we talked about in the shop, it would have been perfect. That's the way it always goes. That's the way it goes. It never fails. The best podcasts never get recorded. Nope. Tony and I do it every weekend and about three times during the week. Yep. We're just actually lucky nobody pulled in like normally. Just a couple guys at home, nobody pulled in. Yep. That's usually where it goes off the rails. Hey, you want a podcast? Yeah, sure, let's do it. So we got there, have a couple beers to warm up, and then six people show up and no podcast.

So if you want more podcasts, you've got to be here live. I mean, that's where we're at. Yeah, and you guys are more than welcome to come down. Yeah. Find my address, come down, and if we're podcasting that night, we'll do it. If not, you're screwed. We'll do it in the shed, but we won't record it. Yeah, exactly. So yeah, when we was out in the shed, we were talking about basically farming in the 90s and different flaws from different companies, what was good, what was bad.

And my humble opinion in the 90s was the pinnacle of farming. You had good tractors, good cabs, good air conditioning, somewhat of a decent radio, not sensors shutting you down.

No emissions, just out there farming. Didn't have the implement management system button you had to push on the end, which we did find out there's one guy in Illinois that knows how to use that. I do have one guy that actually, I sold those the whole time they were new. Never once showed anybody how to use it. Never even had anybody ask. I'm driving down the road and looking at one of my fields and it's like, how is he doing that? Well, he's a jet pilot.

and sat there with his phone, Googled how to do it, and the next thing you know, he's got it working perfect. Which would make sense. Like we talked, a guy in a jet needs to know what everything does. Yeah, generally knows all of that. You kind of want that guy to know what every button does. Yeah.

Yep. So that makes sense. Yeah. We also talked about how he's a pain that the second a warning light comes on, he calls and in a panic. And I'm like, you know, if it stops moving, you can walk to your car. You're not going to die. Yeah. Yep. Exactly. Which I can. In a plane. In a plane. Not so much. Different animal. Yeah. So, so as far as you guys, we'll start with you, Alex. What, what in your mind was the pinnacle of farming? Are we in it now? There's no wrong answer. Was it the seventies? The eighties? Is it now? Is it the nineties? What do you think?

It's definitely not now. I mean, our business has led us into, it's just, it's sad where some of this stuff has went. I agree. As far as the equipment goes, I'd probably say the 10 series and the deer about 1999 was the pinnacle. You get the 78, 10, 84, 10, the last box car Magnum, the second MX has come out. You don't buy a red tractor for the next seven years.

Just for two. Anything with the word MX on it was just a disaster. It's like an 86 series IH. They were fine. They put tan interior in them? Yeah, you don't want one with gray interior. 99-2000. Once you get to a one, you're good.

They're all shaking their heads. Yeah, I'm sorry. I can't go with you on this one, buddy. No, we never can. We never can agree. So Alex and I generally, when we're on the phone, we start off nice because we've got a business question about something. One of us called the other one for a reason. And then what usually happens is

We start debating, and then we kick each other a little bit, and then we get back to some business stuff. We kick each other a little more, and then it's time for one of us to go. That's how it generally goes. Nick loves the Abe the Eagle, still looks him in the eye every time he crawls in a red tractor. No, that's not true. I will give you this little tidbit of advice just from the times that Ryan Kelly has been here. If you feed Nick enough beer...

He will pass out on the podcast, and then you can say whatever you want. Well, you guys were so hard over your sound guards, I couldn't take it anymore. It's like either yell at these guys or just take a nap until they get it over with. I'm probably not as diehard sound guard guy as you get. No. I'm pretty pro-8000. I'm not either. I don't mind sound guards, but they're not the...

Greatest track driver made. You're a diehard case guy deep down. You don't want to admit it. You know, probably not right now as I've called you out. Are you talking about white? He's a white case guy at heart. Not desert sunset, but he's a white case guy. White, black, and orange. Like 2594, 4494. I had the collection of them. I was putting them together. I never got the 49 with the V8. Yep.

took them to ran tool and then i decided i needed to build a grain setup so i sold three quarters of my tractor collection and did that gotcha so are you a crab steer guy you like the crap absolutely he's got a denali pickup out there just in memory of the case in memory of the case all the way down the road all right well for what it's worth there's no denali pickups i have had a duramax but

I had stock in GM in 2008. Diehard GM guy. I got a letter in the mail. I no longer had stock. They kind of kept that secret. And I've had, I think, 20 plus new Ford since. Ooh. Yeah. The one thing we agree on now is Ford. It took him a while to get there. But we're for it. That would probably make you guys want to switch. Absolutely. I can see that. Yep. So getting over here to Matt, what do you think is the pinnacle of pharma? No wrong answers.

I'm going to have to agree with that same window. I mean, I grew up on a 1550 gas Oliver. That's where I cut my teeth. I mean, I'm a sound guard guy. Ox guard. You seem a little tall to get in the sun, Garbert. Okay. I'll let it slide this time. Now, Nick, you do know people can be tall and not fat though, right? I mean, like you got to trade off. Allegedly. Allegedly. We're near each other in that physique thing.

Yeah. You guys complain about the 86 door opening the wrong way. Yours opens on the front. It's not even the side of the cab. It's the front of the cab. You got to hump the hood to get in there. I got to do the hokey pokey and turn myself around to get in that thing. Can't be done. Brock watched me here the other day. We have a guest star standing in the background here just listening. But he watched me try to get into it because I was going to make a funny TikTok about Tony's sound guard because he wasn't here yet.

And then I almost died. And I said, you know, it's not worth it. However, if I would have had a 1086, you could have made an epic TikTok, but then fell and hung yourself off the hammer loop on your pants. Absolutely. That is a danger. You have to be, yes. You have to be aware. You've got to buy the chrome levers that move them back just a little bit. Otherwise, you can get hung up. Well, all IH stuff has to have aftermarket to make it usable. I mean, when the mid-90s, their combine was the greatest thing ever.

And you start talking to a guy, well, we changed the concave. We changed the rotor from standard to specialty to some other kind of thing. I don't want to hear any bullshit about that because it looks like to me that anybody in today's world can make concaves better than John Deere. There's like 4,000 companies that make concaves for John Deere combines right now today. Yeah, but the guys that buy new ones don't run them. They just trade the combine off. Well, of course you would. If I bought a John Deere combine, the first thing I would look to do is trade it off.

That'd be the highest thing on my list. Like, buy it today, trade it tomorrow. I might trade it that afternoon. You know there's a solution. You can do that faster than pulling the rotor out of a gleaner, I'm told.

I don't know. Those guys are faster at that than they are in the bedroom, from what I'm told. I'm like, you can have a rotor out of a cleaner. It practically falls out. I don't know. I mean, Matt can get rid of a combine in a minute and 30 seconds. We just pull a truck up to it. He chants a little bit and then says sold. There you go. We have a new owner. There you go. On to the next one. Not a bad way to go. Yeah. Absolutely. I don't really care what color it is as long as we get to sell it. Like you told me a long time ago.

Everything's green at the end. Correct. I can turn anything into green. Yeah. So your equipment company, just for the listeners, were you more of a jockey? Were you branded to one company on Curry Equipment? Curry Equipment was just a, we were a very small short line dealer and basically decided that being a jockey was better. My argument to that was when Nick and I were both the same, we carried the same company line and,

And they would start telling you, you need to stock this much. You need to sell it in your AOR. And I'm like, I want to turn my inventory as fast as I can. So if I buy an 8,000 series John Deere and I want to sell it in Uruguay, California, my next door neighbor, nobody stops me. I can buy, take the same $100,000 and turn it three or four times in a year. If I bought the new tillage tool that we were selling,

The odds of finding a guy, one of them in two years in my AOR to sell it in, that's just not good business. Yeah, I would agree with that. And I'm just like you, we're trying to turn money as fast as we can. I'm not looking to hang up shelf space. I mean, yeah, you don't try and make it all off one guy. You gotta be fair about it, but you want to turn it as fast as you can, especially right now. Cause interest just kills you every day that something sets in inventory. It is eating your lunch. Yes. Yes.

Yep. And so I'm assuming you've seen what we're all seeing with our own two eyes. I mean, machinery's not moving great right now. I'm not saying it's dead, but... It's pretty slow. Yeah, I've had guys tell me, I've been in the business 50 years, worst I've ever seen. I've had other guys say, well, you know, it's not great, but it's trickling out. So...

I don't know where the happy medium is. I think it probably depends a lot in what you're selling. Like we deal with a guy in Minnesota that hosts our site up there. He's having a decent time, but he sells mostly stuff that is geared to large cattle. He sells big wheel loaders. And cattle are great right now. And cattle are great right now. And silage choppers. Everything he does is geared towards beef and beef.

The guys that are just solely corn and soybeans, it's tough. Yeah. So do you see that as far as being a jockey? Like you can snag a TMR mixer here and resell it? Or is it like I never even got the TMR mixer bought when I was trying to buy it?

For me, I've learned a lot of lessons of I need to stay in my lane. Gotcha. So whenever I go astray buying stuff I don't know anything about, I learn a lesson real quick and it's expensive. Makes sense. So you're more tractors, tillage, combines, stuff like that. You're not getting into TMRs or silage choppers. Right. Okay. Perfect. That takes a lot of stuff. I mean, what does it take for a guy like you? Like, do you have to like scroll? Like, where do you come up with?

if you were going to buy, let's just take my 4555, for example, we're just throwing this out as an example. And you're going to an auction and that tractor is bringing 50 grand from the auctioneer. So like where, like, how do you know how high or low to go? How do you, how do you, how do you monetize that on your side? Or is it from watching Tractor House? Well, this is about what they're bringing. So I think I can sell it for this. Or how do you come up with

What you want to give for something. I mean, that's a me gut feel all, all at the time. So Matt, that's sitting across from me when he came to work for me, uh,

what, eight, nine years ago. And he'd start traveling with me and we'd do a lot of research. We'd look through the list of tractors coming up. We'd study the hours, what the auction results on were, what they're advertised on tractor house, what it's going to cost to recondition them. We'd bridesmaid how many tractors. We'd be next to the last bid. Maybe a farmer took us out. Well, we put a floor under the market so the guy didn't give his stuff away.

And the farmer guy goodbye. Cause he's only one bid over me and I don't buy something unless I think, yeah, you gotta make money. Yeah. And then we'd buy something. Matt looks at me. He's like, we didn't research that at all. Where are you thinking? I'm like, I just thought it worked. It did about 90% of the time. Yeah. John Murray told me years ago, if you don't lose every so often, you're not aggressive enough. And yeah, that's probably pretty good advice. That's pretty accurate. I'd say. Yeah.

I guess I never see the deals as far as any auction I go to. Like, man, I think that thing may go cheap. I'm going to try to buy that. It goes for three times more than I'm willing to give for it. I'm like, well, and I'm not in the jockey business, but he's like, well, I guess I'll pass on that item. Well, it's one of those things, like Alex said, being nine years, you watch it and you're, how does that happen? How did you make that work? And then you just start getting that feel. Like you said, you know, you can walk up and say, hmm.

This baler's a little cheap, but we don't deal in forage. Sure. We tried our hand at that, and I got... Yeah, how'd that work out for you? It broke even. We'll do it again. We tried it once. Good enough. You learn things you can push the envelope on, though, too. Like, if you're going to make a mistake... Sorry, Nick. You make a mistake on a deer. You can overpay for it and think, boy, that was dumb. And before you leave the sale, somebody will offer you a profit on it.

or it'll go away oh i want to disagree with that deer guys are pretty dumb if i was going to risk something i would do a deer you're not wrong at all but if you i've bought case ihs and thought wow i stole that this thing's gonna make huge percentage it's on inventory for two and a half years yeah and that loses 30 grand and nick won't even buy it well i can't help that red guys are too cheap they are cheap

Nothing wrong with that. That's the problem is that he just doesn't want to pay up for quality. And the other thing is, like, machinery is a little bit like farm ground. You're way better off to pay too much for a nice piece.

than too much for a shitty piece. Right. So overpay for the deer and it'll work out just like buying 140 PI black dirt. You deer guys have been willing to overpay for a long time. Well, it's got more resale, but you get more for it to begin with. Oh, that doesn't matter. I guess interest is nothing to you guys. You guys are cool with overpaying from the get-go. And I'm fine with that.

But back to stay in our own lane, I like red, you like green, it's fine. I don't buy and sell John Deere tractors. Well, you know the story about the guys that were selling the cow and it made money every time, but they only sold it between each other three times. Yeah, I've seen that on TikTok. Right, well, I mean, as long as the Deere guys just keep supporting each other, it holds it up there. Here's where I think the farm equipment market went. I think you two-cylinder John Deere guys got together back in the day like, holy shit, our neighbors got M's, we got these epic piles of shit.

here's what we're going to do. We're going to overpay for these things. And we're going to tell everybody they're better than everything else and we're just going to continue this on. And that's how John Deere really got their start. Because nobody was sitting on a two-cylinder going, pop, pop.

After they flipped the pet cocks and wound the flywheel up. You want to bitch about a starter on a 1086, you've got to start a two-cylinder by hand. You're out there wheeling this thing over like you're Andre the Giant. Meanwhile, your neighbor on the M's pushing this dimmer switch going, just drive it. It's got to be easier to spin the flywheel than it does to take the cab off of a tractor to switch the starter. We're talking about M's and two-cylinders here, okay? You brought up the 86. That's because you complained about it earlier.

Most people didn't have a 1086 long enough to have to change the starter. Back in the two-cylinder days, with the hand clutch and having to start with the flywheel and all that, you could probably farm one-handed, but it probably depended on which arm you were missing. If you had to reach across for the clutch. I'll never forget this. We're at a tractor pull, and one of my customers has a buddy with him that did not grow up on a farm. He knows nothing about farm equipment. Just went with him for the sake of going with him. And there's an antique puller parked next to us.

And this guy does all the stuff, the pet cocks and the flywheel and all this stuff. Guy's like, wow, that thing must be something. He's like, surely I didn't sell them that way new. There was another guy's chain. He's like, no, that's how they were new. He's like, and they sold those to people?

So I'm wrong. To be honest, I didn't realize deer stayed number two in tractors during that time. I really thought it was like they were at the absolute bottom during the two cylinder time and that Alice and Oliver had to be ahead of them. No, but they weren't. No, they weren't.

Which brings us back to, that's why Alice is even worse than I originally thought. I hate Alice Sheldon Striders. You and Ryan Kelly really do get along well, don't you? You want to talk about trying to get in something. We had one in the shop a couple years ago. You couldn't cut the top of that off with a Sawzall and drop me in with an airplane and get in that cab. Like, the door opens this far.

Where do you go? It doesn't matter which direction you turn, you can't get in. Was that a maroon belly? It was a maroon belly. It was a maroon belly. Yeah. Well, I mean, you rolled bearings in them every so many hours, right, as maintenance. Wasn't that how that worked? You get to pull the front axle to get the oil pan off. No thanks. Yeah. They got live PTO like three years ago, though, so they're on it now. I told Dad, I said, if you ever sign up for another one of these, your ass is crawling underneath it. It ain't going to be me. This thing is miserable. If only...

We could instill the loyalty with this country as far as being Americans is what Alice Chalmers did with the cleaner combines and the Alice tractors. Yes. We would have something, wouldn't we? True patriots. Yeah. This country would really be something. Yeah. Those guys would go to the grave. D21, boys. Yeah. Ain't nothing prettier. I think it looks like a hippopotamus. Honestly, I'd like to own one. The front tires touch the back tires. Yeah. Not a fan.

We had a D14 when I was a kid. My dad got rid of a 77 all over with a belly mower that I did not mind mowing with. Wasn't that bad. And got a D14 with a belly mower. I'd rather take a kick to the...

anywhere repeatedly as drive that thing that was the most miserable tractor we ever owned what's the gear shift is under your butt and it sticks out there it broke off all the time just absolutely miserable and maybe power maybe it's just the ones that i've been around which i've been around several alice tractors there's several in our area yeah but how do you know if one's actually missing because to me they all sound like shit when they run anyways like how do you know the trender's missing that ain't no kidding like an am or an h they'll purr yeah but

Not the owls. They're like spit and sputter and cough and choke. They're awful. So we played this game. The guy that owns Big Tractor Power and I got to be pretty good friends and talk to him all the time, the Tractor Zoom guy. And you write down, and I don't remember the rules to the game, but essentially you had to start in 1960, and what would you buy if you could have new tractors every five years and new combines every two?

And it was kind of neat. We did it based off of instead of what we think is cool today, off of the market share numbers. So there's some reason that everybody apparently had brain and bought 2470 cases because they sold the most four-wheel drives in 1975. Keep in mind that was the height of the LSD epidemic in this country. So there's a lot of people that were cracked out of their gourd. That's the only way you can sell those to anybody. Anyway, go ahead. Continue.

And farmers had a lot of money at the time. So, I mean, they go hand in hand. But I'm telling you. I mean, I got a good friend that's, you know, into doing the lines of stuff off the hood of a funny 20 today. Like a local farmer told me one time, rich farmers farm with John Deere, poor farmers farm with IH, dumb farmers farm with Case. That was his go-to in the 80s and 90s.

I couldn't argue with that. He was a very successful guy. Well, a lot of people don't realize that Alice Chalmers actually was very instrumental in the Manhattan Project, developing the first nuclear bomb, which I figured they were like, how the fuck are we going to get rid of this company? This is the biggest epic pile of shit company we've ever... Fuck it. Let's just nuke this son of a bitch. The government's like, hey, what do you got there? Look,

They were way better in the generator business and all that stuff than they were in the ag business. Yeah, because they made transformers. You don't see them so much now. Electricity was their thing. Yeah, you'll see a transformer on a power pole every now and again with an Alice Chalmers logo on it. Yeah. Yeah, I don't know. It's amazing how things have come so far so fast. Like, could you imagine trying to sell a crab steer tractor today? Hey, we've got these cables under here. Klaus is doing it.

Are they real? Oh, on them. What's that thing called? It's 500 horse. It looks like a giant crab steer tractor. It kind of looks like the JCB tractor. Do you know anyone that has one in your area? I do. Is it the same? You guys got all the unique stuff in Western. No, he's in Missouri. Well, same thing. I sold him an I-2200. Okay. And that's what he's pulling it with. Yeah. It's probably fine. German engineering. Deutzfahr. Yeah.

Go from Missouri to pick it up. Yeah. It's a show-me state. You've got to show them a lot of shit once in a while. I'm going to pass on the Crabster. How much do you think a 9260 is worth versus a 9270?

Well, it'd be versus a 9250. Okay, either way. Well, one's collectible now. Remember, anything that was no good to farm with either became a pulling tractor or collectible. 60-30. Yeah, I have two of those. 1468s. Yeah, I get it. I get it. I'm with you. Speaking of tractors, did you get my fenders and my platform before I forget to ask you this? No, I haven't. I kind of forgot. Sorry. My bad.

Well, I'll get up to you. I'll drop ship them straight to you. We're not going to get them tonight. My bad. You want to write that down before you pass out? No, I'll remember it. I'll remember it now. I'll have Ryan text you. Yeah, that's what I would. Yeah. I'll remember it now. I'm a little slummed up. Sometimes I got a lot of shit going on. I ordered 20.38 for that. I think I'm going to narrow it in, paint the whole thing red, put the sticker on it, put black weights on it all the way around it. 20.38 radials on the back.

I'm not on board with the black weights. No. Are we taking this to a protest or what are we doing? I don't know. It's an IH tractor. I mean, you got to do something to make it look cool.

A 1066 needs nothing to make it look cool, okay? They were cool from the factory. Ryan says it is. A 66 series in general is the greatest open station tractor ever made. You 40-20 guys can suck it. A 66 series is the best open station tractor. They're all open station now because nobody would get in that cab. Oh, sure they would. And they go down the hallway and they take a left. Exactly.

You want the door to open correctly, those doors open correctly. And then you get in, turn, twist, and fall in. I'm 5'5", and I can't get in and out of that tractor. I'm not taking anything from a Soundguard guy. A Soundguard's just a really small version of that same cab. Just chop the hallway off. Yeah, you can get in the hallway. And they put leather all over the dash. That's bound to keep it quiet. If we stick a shitload of insulation and a bunch of leather over this, it's bound to be good.

Yeah, I was working at Coons the first time I drove one of those things. It was just like, how in the world is this thing known as such a great tractor? Because it is. They built a good motor. The rest of the tractor's fine. The rest of the tractor's fine. Isn't the engine the most important part?

At least you could use them in the winter. Well, we got livestock, but they're going to starve today because, well, it's below 60 degrees. Shit, somebody's got to rent a town and get some ether. We didn't plug the block here and the power's out. They won't start. Well, they sell the best ether. They don't make that shit. That comes from TIG Manufacturing in Iowa. And the best ether was Jetfire. But thanks to Joe Biden and COVID, you can't buy it anymore.

Champion ether is better than deer ether. Deer ether is useless because the cans won't spray at an angle. So when I had my case-hooded pro stock that you referred to... Oh, that's anything, deer. They're penetrating oil, anything. Like, some you've got to hold upside down, some straight up. You couldn't spray it through the top hood screen of my pulling tractor because it won't spray at an angle.

Champion will, though. Well, if you will put the correct hood on it. I put your case hood on it that you were so proud of a minute ago in this show. Did you have the 2590 air scoop where you could have sprayed straight? I had a whole screen at the top. We finally had to make the front screen tip so we could spray it straight because Ether wouldn't spray that. But I'll be honest with you. I used Ether very sparingly because I refused to use it. Actually, I would take duct tape and wrap it around the can and stage them because I don't want to be seen with that shit. No.

That's how much I hate that company. What was Case's big claim to fame? Was it the Power-O-Matic? What did they call that thing back in the day? Case-O-Matic. Case-O-Matic. I got a 630 Case-O-Matic. My grandpa bought it new. Hell yes. Last tractor he bought new. Case-O-Matic. Wasn't that sort of a power shift? Actually, both my grandpas bought cases new. Their last tractors were both cases. Really? 830 gas and a 630 diesel. Such genetic. That's what built the farm. The Case-O-Matic wasn't bad. The 630 Case-O-Matic is not a bad tractor. You're not going to start it in gear? No.

Can't. Got to use the gear shifter to start it. Don't know. Never been on one. Literally, to start that tractor, new from the factory, you move the gear shifter to the starting position. That's what starts the tractor. Can't start it in gear.

you know what you know the brakes are going to lock up as you're going down the road it might throw you in the road ditch but you kind of made peace with that before you got on it because you weren't jerking the flywheel yeah yeah you're not opening pet cocks and yeah the one thing we probably do agree on is the boxcar magnum may be the greatest tractor ever built by anybody i think they were absolutely the the interesting thing when we did the every five years everybody lands in like 1995

But everybody goes blue. We picked the Genesis, the 9680. And I think part of it was because we were pulling Kinsey planners and DMI Tiger mate color there's. And everybody thought it looked cool if it was all blue. Yeah, I'm out on that. But I'm sure you are. He's more of a TW30 type Ford guy. I will let you beat up my kids before I get in a TW30. I remember last summer you were working on one of them.

Absolutely. The most epic pile of shit I have ever been around is a TW anything. Wasn't it somewhere you had to take the fuel tank? What was it? It was something simple. If you can get the hoods off that thing, you're ASAE certified. It's a four-hour job to get the hoods off that thing. What an epic pile of shit. You couldn't give me one of those. If you said, hey, Nick, here's 4,000 acres, but you've got to farm it all with TWs, but the rent's free. I'm like, no, I don't want it that bad. I'm good.

I'm good. Those tractors were never around here when we were kids. No. That was one series of tractor was non-existent. No. Sleeveless engine. Nowadays, it started with about the Genesis. Yeah. And then now to whatever you call them. There's a lot of Ford and Versatile around here.

I love when Genesis guys want to argue with John Deere guys. And it's like, John Deere's company sold you the transmission. Like, their claim to fame was, oh, we love this transmission. I'm like, well, John Deere sold it to you, but they hated it so much they didn't even use it. They're like, this thing's kind of a pile of shit. We'll sell it to New Holland.

We're going to design our own deal or steal it from somebody. Payback for that asshole you sent us for the 4020. Yeah, they probably got it from Dodge. Like, hey, we got a leftover engineer from the 727 torque flight. We're going to get him to do our transmission. We're going to sell this piece of shit to these guys. We got a power guy over here. We're going to let him do the new Holland transmission. We'll sell it to him. Yeah, not a fan.

They did turn super short for about 13 minutes. The super queer front axle, which has like 4,000 wear spots. 4,000 research. Yeah. It turns really short for just a wee little bit. You want to shock somebody is don't tell them how that tractor drives and send them to an auction yard to pick it up and watch them try to drive it on the trailer. Yeah. The first time back at up ramps. Yeah, I could see that.

how'd that feel for you matt that's fine i always like the exhaust pipe that comes up for two foot and then curves back and then yeah i'm sure that's a cheap piece to replace well i don't know about that but i just did a we're working on a 315 case ih in the shop that muffler curves to the curvature just like the genesis does really

I didn't know they ever had one, or was this a different deal? Well, that's a 2013, I think, or 12, 13. It's a European thing. I don't know. If you remember the Hestons back in the day, the one of those, the muffler angled muffler.

Remember what I said? To match the windshield. When you buy a red tractor and you think you're going to make money and soon you'll find out you don't, that pipe is $1,600. Nice. Did it have tan interior, though? You'll get it back. I think the new ones have gray, so I must have missed the... You're screwed. Just give it away. Just give it away. I'll take it. I'll come get it. If I can find a road that goes to Western Illinois, I'll come get it. It's got 3,400 hours on it. See, somebody used it.

Successful. Have you ever noticed that all old tractors, like the Deere's, you see them, they got 10, 12, 14,000 hours on. And then like, you'll see an Oliver or an Alice and I'll even throw a J I case and they're all like six, 8,000.

They just didn't get the hours. No. They couldn't keep them running. No 1066 has more than 4,500 because the TAC quit and got replaced. So they're all new then. So they only have 4,500. No, that's because nobody wanted to sit on them. That's not true. Use both arms to pull levers. That's not true. The first rule of owning one of those, you got to have good tires because you don't have steps. So you use the tires to get down. You're just a little guy. You probably don't know. But a tall guy can go down the tires. It's fine. Hmm.

You're going to take that? Yeah, he is. Yeah, I am. I mean, anybody that knows me knows that I... Because he's getting ready to sell one. That's why he's taking it, because he's getting ready to sell one. You know, I tried to help my genetic pool. I married about four inches taller than me, so we'll see if the daughter actually benefits from that, but...

Time will tell. Time will tell. Yep. She might be stuck in a sun guard too. Who knows? We won't know yet. So being a jockey, have you ever come across a track? You're like, all right, this one's going in my pocket. I'm not getting rid of this one. This one's mine. I'm keeping it. Like something you just had to have, like, like you weren't really looking for one, but once you found it, it's like, yeah, I'm keeping this one. Oh, the two 60 thirties. The I've got my dad's 24 70 case that he bought new. I knew where it went. I went and bought it. No,

No matter what it would have cost. But you've never just been bumbling around at a Maury's, for example. Like, no intentions of really buying anything specific, but you're like, oh, I've got to put this in my collection. I usually don't keep them. I buy them a lot of times like that. Like, boy, that'd be neat. Like, I was going to buy that 5088 today just to play with it, tell Nick what a piece of junk it was after I owned it for a while, and then sell it.

He does like to do that. He buys two red pieces a year just to call me and complain about them. Yep. That way you can at least say I've had one. I know what I'm talking about. It's terrible. I don't like this. I don't like that. I'm selling it. Even though he knew he was going to sell it before he ever bought it. How do you drive these everything? Every 10 years, I buy a Case IH Combine. It's tradition. 2003, I had 1640. Yep. 2013, I had 2388. And 2023, I had 7240. Yep.

That sold before he ever went to harvest. No. No, we ran all three. The traditional IH combine, I really don't care for that much.

The flagship combine, I will give case, that thing is an impressive machine. The design of it, it looks like you fan soybeans. Matt ran it because I don't run off-color stuff, but I'll buy it so I can have the experience. That's how it goes. I mean, I made a round or two with it. Well, at least that way when you're standing around drinking beer, I had one of them. It's a job. Yeah, I'd be the same way. If I had your money, I'd do the exact same thing. Yeah, exactly. Yeah.

It's Compier's money. It's not mine. I pay interest on that stuff. It's all part of the experience. It's fine. But I do appreciate the fact that you embrace it a little bit. You dabble in the red just enough to stay current. I appreciate that about you. I was pretty pro-quad track for a while. Yeah, you were. Well, turn that off. I'm just anti-track in general now. When they came out, you could afford to run a track tractor. Now, I'm to the point, I'm not convinced that

a row crop operation especially if they have any amount of road trip time there's no way that stuff can make you enough bushels for the amount of maintenance and cost it takes to keep it going and when something happens to it you don't call the tire shop to fix it you're down you got a 60 000 pound tractor sitting in a soft field bearings bogey wheels tracks you'll have a south african in it and he doesn't catch that it smells hot and

The guide lugs are gone on it. It's just a lot of maintenance. A lot of maintenance. Yeah. Narrow is about the only thing they bring to the table. Yeah. They're narrow. They're narrow to go down there. The tool you're pulling behind it's probably wider anyway, so it probably doesn't matter. Oh, no. Everybody just runs a high-speed disc because they don't compact if you pull them fast. If you pull them fast, they're fine. Right. And if they're on individual gang. They levitate to keep the compaction out of there. Right.

Interesting. Yep. So have you ever owned a two plus two? What's your thoughts on a two plus two? Love them or hate them? I've never drove one. Neither have I. I don't know if you've ever stumbled across one, had one. I like mine. Do you seriously have one of those things? We did, yeah, for several years.

Had Case, your beloved company, not killed off the 7488, they'd have sold a shitpot full of those things. Every guy I've ever known that's had one loved it. Said it was the greatest tractor I've ever owned. I loved it. Front wheel assist didn't turn for shit at that time. Deere barely made theirs mechanical at that point in time. They were doing hydraulic before that. They turned short. Back then, you've got to remember, everybody had saddle tanks. You put saddle tanks on a Soundguard cab...

You've got to jump on the front weight bracket with a trampoline, one of those little mini brown trampolines, and then crawl the hood, swing around the air cleaner and exhaust like a stripper pole, and slide in the door. You're not getting on with a saddle tank. Well, you could get a four-wheel drive and then bust the engine block as you're crossing ditches and shit. That's why in western Illinois we have the wide fork all the ground. Well, makes sense. But you can't get in a SunGrover saddle tank. She did straight cheap, Don. Because once you stuff her in there, she ain't getting out. Yeah, she's trapped. You're good. Lock the door. They're in there.

2 plus 2 could do all that, turn short. I don't have any complaints over my 2 plus 2. The smaller ones, you could dual wheel the back but not the front. Is that right? You weren't supposed to dual any of them until the 74s, but everybody did. Or most people did. But 72s and 74s, you were going to be able to, but Chase killed that. I've always wanted to drive one just because I think it would be so weird to watch the front end turn. I'm just used to articulating that. It's a little different, but you can literally get right to a fence and then turn, and you'll miss it. You're good.

Yeah. My neighbor had one when I grew up. He farmed 300 acres next to me. Loved the guy. He had a 1620 Case IH Combine, the 2 Plus 2, and a 5088. He would...

Disket with his 496. Phil Pellevate with whatever vibershank thing they had. He retired a happy man. Yep, probably a 4600 back then, maybe a 4300. And then when he planted beans, he had a Colt Emulcher with the 5100 soybean special. I aged by far the best Colt Emulcher. I aged 315. I actually think his Myobank EY.

Well, he put a lot of bearings in there. Probably. He got to do some work. He had a good torch. I didn't know until, you know, time gets away. It's probably been 10 years ago now. I didn't realize on a 2 plus 2 that the hood rolled forward. Like they don't open. The best hood I each ever had.

So, like, it rolls. It's the only one they ever had. Does it roll completely to the end of the frame? It's the only one they ever had that would open. And it rolls forward. Does it roll clear to, like, the end of the frame? Like, how far does it roll? About two inches short of the radiator cap, and then you've got to hump it past the safety notches to get to the radiator cap. Yeah, what was the fuel tank against the windshield? The fuel tank was by the windshield, and there was one behind you, too. Mine didn't have one behind me. Okay. But most of them. It was probably an option, like the feeder house. It was an option. Where you could see the head.

It's the only fuel tank I ever had that was in the right spot. They had two fuel tanks on most of them and then one pumped to the other. Okay, so what was the deal on the... Like, what made them so long in front of the... What was out toward the very end of the tractor? Wasn't there something... Nothing, really. Just... Really? Space...

Wide open spaces. The Dixie Chicks tractor. Well, I mean, the engine was pretty far forward. There's a pretty good long drive shaft in there. Oh, there is? Okay. So I've never had the hood open. It's a 1086 with the engine mounted way far forward to make them balance. Gotcha. Interesting. They turn short. Could you get to the starter on it without taking the cab off? That's a hard no. Hmm. Starter's in the same spot. How about putting batteries in it? Could you get to those? Batteries are in the same spot as the 1086. All that's the same. Right.

I don't want to hear any bullshit from you guys. You John Deere guys right now today, you got this awesome magnetic battery cover, which I'll give you super props for. You pop that off. You're like, man, there's the batteries.

But you can't get them out and you can't connect anything to them because they're wedged in there. But you could see them, but you can't do anything with them. Hold your water. You mean to tell me that IH didn't have a special starter wrench like you can get at Deere for a 4020 that's curved in an octagon? They didn't have that. All you need is a swivel socket and a long extension and a cordless impact. You're fine. And to take the cab off. It's not that big a deal. And a boom tractor. I mean, you know, just right. It's not that big a deal.

The starter's in the same spot it was on the M. You're well trained by then. But taking the front axle out from under your allus to roll bearings through the motor is unacceptable. You don't have to jerk the steering wheel to get it to start. You guys did that for four decades. Oh, you forgot to jerk the wheel. And jam the ether can in the dash because heaven forbid we put electronic ether assist on it.

Meanwhile, IH guys don't care because they don't need ether, but you John Deere guys are jamming the can on the dash, turn the wheels, run the kill, and run the key switch. You're going to have four arms to start a 4440. I'm going to give, and this will be for you guys and our listeners only, if somebody wants a good TikTok, get in an 8R series deer and act...

don't even acknowledge that you're doing it and just start jerking the wheels. You're rolling over. There you go. How many people comment on that? Absolutely. It is that goal. My grandpa told me I didn't. Yeah, you gotta do it. They had to jerk wheel and all of them. D strokes the pump. Yeah. Yeah. There's gender guys were D stroking a lot of things back then, but they're so used to pet cocks. I guess they were used to turn and stuff and cranking knobs, whatever. Clutches, all this stuff.

The good old 6030. I can't believe you were. Yeah, the good old 6030. What an epic pile of shit. Nobody farmed with those junk bastards. We all know it. You, me, and the American people know it. They sold 4,000 of those useless tractors with an engine that cracked blocks. Wouldn't start. The three points. Oh, big bag 6030. The three points the size of your pinky. Absolutely useless. Oh, it's 55 degrees outside. Well, we can't use the 6030 today. Why not? Well, it's a little cool.

Yeah. Okay. Well, it rained like three months ago. Oh, we can't use the 60-30. The front end will sink. They're not balanced very well. What can we use it for?

Well, we can sneak into some classes where everybody else is running a four-inch turbo. We can run a six-inch turbo with our P-Pump after we replace the engine with something and come out 25 years later because our four-wheel drives suck and they spend main bearings. There's a plethora of engines out there that we can stuff in this thing. We're not going to sneak into it. We're going to dominate the class until enough crybabies change the rules so that they eliminate us. Isn't that what you meant to say there? That's not true.

Every rule on tractor pulling has been passed for the 60-30. It's about time they were competitive. Oh, you want to pull pro stock? Oh, you can't do that with a 60-30. Back when I started, you've got to take that to Engler and get a truck rear end put in it and a drop box transmission because the transmission won't take it. Oh, you've got a 706 gas? Yeah, you're good. Better hold 2,500 horse. Yeah.

But a 63D will take 225 horse max. You want to run 300 horse? Nope. You got to take it to the angler, get it redone. Won't take it. I will give Nick this in IH's defense. This is literally what Deere did with that to where, oh, that was a factory motor. We get to run that. That would literally be like taking a 1066 when a 2388 come out and said, well, we're going to swap them into a 1066. So we can run those now. We're going to put an 8.3 cup in it.

You're good. Nobody wants those things. They weren't worth a shit. An A3 Cummins. You mean a 504 case with one more cube? No. It was not a 504 case. That engine bears a lot of similarities to a 466. I'll still take the 466 over it, but it bears a lot of similarities. Hey, have you ever smoked the PTO on a case on an auger? Yeah. I have. I got the video of it. It's on my TikTok. How did you knock the power shift out while you were running the auger? Well, so you know, with a case...

Yeah. So our grain system, when we built it, it would have been smart to put a leg, but I'm poor, so we use an auger. Because he was selling cases to fund this. Had he been selling John Deere's, he'd have had a real nice leg. Well, it's true. I kept the 6030s, and I sold the cases to fund it. Anyway, so we put a 1394 auger, but it's a 24-foot bin. So because it's so narrow and tall...

The shorter auger will touch it, but it's straight up. It would hit the eave if you went that tall on a wider bend. Well, we start shelling corn usually at 30 to 32 and try to be done by 20. And you talk about horsepower. When you take that auger straight up, and I hate to wait, and Matt would be like, you know, if we run them half open, I'm like, well, what's the point? If you got it, let's use it. So...

And Westfield, they should, like, let us test stuff because we can destroy. They've got the reversible gearbox with 1,000 drive, which makes it that much hotter as far as moving grain. And we have took the PTO clutch out of a 24-70 case.

We have melted down tractors. Nick sent me turbos in the middle of fall. That's true. It's a fact. Next day era, if I recall. And I made a trip over twice. Yeah. The coolest tractor we ever had on was the TW30. That thing would glow at night. It would turn everything cherry red, manifold through the up...

Partway up the muffler. Your tractor's on fire. No, we're just moving grain. So, just as a heads up this fall, if you really, really want to piss Nick off, put a 60, 30 on his back. This thing just ran like a sewing machine all fall. It just worked out great. I'm sure if it spoke to the keel clutch, you've got to split the tractor. But, I mean...

I mean, IH, you back it up in the road ditch, pull the P2 out, rebuild it, you're good. It takes like 10 minutes, but okay. The thing that we found that doesn't tear the auger up, honestly, is we've got two shafts. We've got the small 1,000 and the big 1,000 because normally we tear up the collector tractors and we have to go to the lot and get an 8,000 or a 340 case or something that

We don't tear them up because when you kick them in, the newer tractors, the case and the deer, when you watch the PTO start, it starts like this. Modulates it, yeah. And they have been perfect. Yeah, I can see that. But it's time again. The Blackstripe 1066, after it gets back from Rantoul, is going to blow fire and all kinds of fun stuff. Nothing wrong with that. Did you know a two-lunger John Deere will completely demolish a gearbox on an auger? Don't get themselves stuck. Yeah.

If it rains and you got them on an auger, they'll work themselves into the ground to where they're stuck. Yep. I know a guy not too far from here that always, he had an old A or B John Deere or whatever, and they had two augers set up to two different bins, and so when they dumped semis, a little bit of grain went to this one, a little bit went to this one. Well, this one over here was kind of the main one, so they had like an 1130 Massey on it, and the other one they would just kind of let idle thereabouts. They thought, well, I'll put the old A on there. Just, you know, let her run a little bit. Well...

jerks the gearbox until it disintegrates the gearbox went through two of them they're like yeah don't put one of those on there you can't even use them for an auger yep once you got started it's like i don't want to shut it off i don't want to go through the whole process again i don't think we can get enough horsepower over an 830 out of an 830 to try this but i'd be willing to well i mean technically they are a six cylinder with the pony motor so if you kick them all in you'd be good

There was a great concept of pony motor. Yeah. Go from 8,000 RPM. Yeah. It was a great plan. We'll spend this motor at 7,000 to turn this one 25. Yeah. On board. Love it. But let's face it. Deere never made a tractor. They had to buy that from Waterloo. This is true. They never really had one. And then they hired a guy from Ford to make the 4010. So here we are. Anyway, moving on. Well, they got the motor from Oliver.

They didn't get any of them. Oliver never had an engine. They had to buy theirs from somebody else. Next theory was, if you listen to the podcast, they just took a hammer and bashed the spark plugs in and put injectors in them. That's true. A 404 diesel is exactly the same as the gas. If you don't believe me, the injection pump is mounted where the distributor goes. It sets vertical. That's a gas motor on diesel. There you go. Epic pile of shit. Worked well. Didn't work that well. Hey, we can't seal these up worth of shit.

How about we drill some holes in the block, just let the antifreeze run on the ground so you know when it's leaking? All right. Cool. Meanwhile, these guys got to buy water filters. See, we're saving all this money. It just runs on the ground. Dumb. I've said it before. I'd rather have a sister working a whorehouse than a brother working in a John Deere.

And so basically like what the 4010, that's when the M&W came along and said, you know what, we're going to try to unfuck these things. This thing holds like three quarts of oil. Like literally the truck you went to go get the oil in your four-year 4010 holds more oil than your 4010 holds. We're going to sell you an oil pan. We're going to turbocharge this thing. We're going to try to make it into something. It's not much now.

I mean, our only competition is the 560, which, let's face it, everybody with a 560 is at the hospital getting their skin replaced on top of their hand because somebody put too long of screws in the necker knob, and you went to shift and turn at the same time, cut the whole top of your left hand off. It blew out. So you're out there like, man, I...

That .40-10 might be cool, but I'm wrapped up in a band-aid, so I can't even run it right now. Well, most of them were sitting in the dealer getting their rear end replaced. That was like a 15-minute deal. It wasn't a big deal. It takes 15 minutes to replace a rear end. It's five minutes longer than a gleaner. When you use the same shit you used in an H, I mean, it won't hold it. A .282 was a powerhouse. But you know what is mind-boggling to me? And pick your brand, John Deere, International, whatever, as to how many...

H's and M's and John Deere A's. I mean, it was like, what, 400 and something thousand? I mean, just piles and piles. There should literally be one of them in every fence row in America times 10. There is. What's sad is I just went and walked through a lady's collection of her husband's. I mean, there's nobody left to buy this stuff. The generation that collects that stuff is dying. I told her, I'm like, we need to sell it as soon as we can because...

You got to catch somebody to buy it. The next is going to be ours. Yeah. The muscle tractor buyer is going to disappear. Yeah. Absolutely. Because it moves up. Whatever you had as a kid is what you want back as an adult. Right.

I mean, when I was a kid, WDs were hot in the international. Oh, WD9, or I want to name this, that, and the other. They give those to you now, basically. You told me this a long time ago. You try to teach a kid to come out of the hole now. First tractor he ever drove was an 8300 deer. He had no clutch dust. You pop it into gear, and it slowly takes off. Yeah, has no idea. He's never started two wagons in the mud with an 806 with the torque out. That knows that you're going to get your... Trying to slip the clutch. Yeah.

Yeah. Yeah. With his dad being touch belligerent and going to yell at him for not doing it correctly. Well, that's because they were broke. There was no... If you were trying to survive the 80s, it was... Yeah. Your kid was your slave labor. I was doing that in the 90s. Dad was still yelling at me. We don't have money to put a clutch in its tractor. Right. Get it out of here. Yeah. No doubt.

All my dad thought about was buying dirt. He could care less about anything. We farmed with whatever we had. It didn't matter. That's why you had cases. We had Deutz of my grandpa's that we borrowed, a 170 Alice that we borrowed gas of my other grandpa's, a 2470 case, and a 4430.

And tried to survive through the night. You know, I'm not a 4430 guy, but that's how much you must have been tired because you didn't name anything else off that was going to do much of the work there. Oh, well, get this. When he traded the 2470 off the one I've got now, he bought a 4900 Massey. Did he lose a bet at the bar or how did he end up with that? That's a terrible decision and I don't like either one of them. It's what we had for a dealer in town and it ran 22 mile an hour and we were farming in two states.

not written the ground he decided that land was half the price in missouri so we'd go over there and buy it and just hope that we could farm it long enough to get paid for well i'm yeah i i got nothing for that that's yeah i mean if i was gonna drive a massey i would want to drive it to missouri but i would want to leave it yeah so you're you said you were mount sterling illinois yeah roughly

What was the big farm up that direction? Norris. Norris. Was you anywhere close to Norris? Norris Farms would be Lewiston, which would be east of them. Yeah, that's an hour. Gotcha. Which, that's all done, gone. Oh, that's flood. That's what I heard, yeah. They raised ducks there now. Sad. Good dirt. It is. Absolutely unbelievable. Yep. That's Nick's government at work. No, that's your governor.

You live deeper in Illinois than I do. We're just like two counties. If Missouri would adopt us, we'd be very happy about it. Yeah, I get that.

There's this push now to become part of Indiana. I'm not for that either. Yeah, what's up with that? Yeah, I don't want to be part of Indiana. They suck too. Well, I look at it as if we become part of Indiana, we're kind of like people who fled into this country. Yeah. Why don't you fix where you're at? Yeah, exactly. I don't need to become part of something else. No. Let's throw these assholes out there. I just want to shove Chicago off in the lake or sell them back to Wisconsin for the dollar we gave for them. We'll cut them a deal, 50 cents. They can have it back.

And we'll be fine. Yeah. I'm on board. Let's flood Chicago. I'm pretty sure the guys that run our sales sites in Wisconsin would not be in favor of this. No, probably not. No, probably not. Did you ever, do you know the guys that had the P&M sled from last year? Yeah. Great guys. I love that sled. Pulled hard as shit. Loved it.

I didn't have a 60-30. It worked out really well for me. I have what John Deere guys would call a cheater stick. Also known as I amplified my torque. I get right to the flag where the 60-30s died, pull the torque, go about another few feet, win the pull. Love that sled. Great guys. So what's that thing called? Deal that it's always new or it's going out, right? Once you put an aftermarket one in, I replaced two aftermarket torques in my life since 1980 or since...

In my lifetime, I replaced two of those. The one, the guy blew the entire bottom shaft out of the transmission, jamming around in the mud, slamming the brakes around. So they throw that one out of the bathwater. I don't know if the torque was bad, but we put a new one in it because literally it needed an entire new transmission. Did you ever pull the Golden Goose? The other one was two years ago. We put the first one in in 1985, and we had to replace it. Did you ever pull the Golden Goose? No, what's the Golden Goose?

It was a sled that they ran around farm stock. You couldn't pull it fast. But it started hard, pulled hard, finished hard. Never pulled it. They could pull a tractor up on it when they got in super heavy class. That was before my time. But the wheels would go backwards. Yeah. I know what you're talking about now, but no, that was before my time. But it was pretty neat. Yeah, that was before my deal. But...

There was no worrying about speed class on it because they couldn't come out of the hole. Yeah. That thing. What you wanted to try to pull them back then was like 25 fat friends. And you want them to stand in the starting line with everybody else in the finish line for you. Back when you had the man sledge, we had to step on. Which can you imagine that now?

Hey, you guys get on this thing as it goes by. Yeah. Later in the year. The old settlers day, they still have that. What's that? They still have that at a local pool. Yeah. No kidding. Yeah, because I get called every year to be the fat guy at the end. Yeah. Nice. I get that. Every once in a while, a fat guy gets called in. I understand that. I'm pretty sure. When they need stuff moved, I get it. They need a speed limit in that one.

That is a given. You can't. Now, that I can understand. Yes. Back then, they had a pace tractor. Yeah. And if you're really drunk and pulling, you ran into the pace tractor. But there was no disqualification for that. That was just you and the pace tractor guy working it out on your own for you messing up. They usually put a blade on the pace tractor. Yep. Because guys used to talk about they'd ride a wheelie over the blade. Yeah, get the front wheels hooked, and it was a whole big deal. How are we going to get this off? Yep. And you always had a green stagger that pulled the sled back. Mm-hmm.

To my knowledge, you can't pull a sled backwards before self-propelled sleds without a stagger. Yeah. I never saw it done with anything else. Well, when we were kids, yeah. But when we were later on, like when I hosted our FFA poll, we did it with a Massey. $4,900. Finally found a job I could do. Well, at least that if it rains, though, you can get the entire community in the cab of the Massey. That's true. Out of the rain. That's true. It was nice that way.

Because they were having an 1800 Massey? No, they were 1805 or whatever those were. Those were nice. Never had that, no. A steel box with a 32-0 nothing in front of you. Those were great, yeah. Now, worn, was it, was it McCullough? Turbo worn? What was...

He supplied all the Stigers, right, when they were big, rolling, late 70s. Yeah, I know the name you're saying there, but I don't know the details. Yeah, there was something to do with he sponsored all them pulls, and that was part of the. Yeah, I can believe that. I'm like, and those were great tractors, but that would have been a pain of a tractor to use. Like a 1066 Hydro would have been way handier.

Didn't pull hard. It'd been way easier. Like the clutch was probably burned out of a stagger by the time I got the pullover, right? Well, unless it was a PTA. Well, no doubt. I don't understand why every tractor drive is nothing but IH 100s or hydro 1066s. That has got to be the greatest tractor drive tractor ever. Have you ever been on a tractor drive? Oh, absolutely. I...

I can't hardly handle it. I mean, you go fast and then you stop. Last year, the one we were on was miserable until we had one two-cylinder dip shit. Puh, puh, puh, puh, puh, puh, puh. Finally, he turned off. Once we got rid of him, it was good. Then we could actually go road speed. That's a fact. We had to go real slow for him because his pick-ox were open. I don't know what his deal was. But once he finally dipped, we were good.

I've determined that Hesston is the ultimate tractor drive tractor because it has a sunroof, a foot throttle, and an air conditioner, which pretty much is the trifecta. And old Brock said over here in the corner, he likes to go on tractor drives now because he never drove an IH tractor that would actually shift. Yeah, with all the shit that was right. Yeah.

Because mine is not an epic pile of shit. Now, it's all good. Put him on it. That's what collectors do. They resurrect stuff that was not useful. Nobody ever fixed that stuff. I refuse to have any of that stuff that won't ship. That just drives me up the wall. I got to have all good stuff on that. It costs like 20 bucks. I was driving Ferg's tractor drive. Yeah. He took my dad's tractor drive tractor. I did take the blade off of it for him.

All right, let's shift gears. We're going to run out of time here while I wind it up. So what would fix everything in ag? What's the biggest problems right now? You know, we keep losing farms. Farms get bigger. Some people like that. Some are succeeding. My theory on it was our government should just quit subsidizing cash rent. I agree. Totally agree.

If the acre is certified as cash rent, it doesn't qualify for a crop insurance subsidy, any kind of payment, anything. The land value will shrink some because the investor can't guarantee as much. The good farmer is going to succeed instead of the guy that just pays the most and covers the acres and does whatever.

getting the ground. Now it's going to be, Oh, that guy actually is doing the best to grow the crop because a third of it's my crop. So I'm going to rent it to him or 50, 50 or some variation of it. Now I know somebody is going to say, well, they can cheat it and they'll figure out ways around, but it'll still back it off. It's kind of like the speed limit. You know, if everybody be driving a hundred, if the speed limit wasn't 55, but it's,

It at least rains them into 60 to 65. Yeah, I agree. And I want to preface this by starting out saying, you know, I don't care if you want to farm 10,000 acres. I'm not advocating for we...

go to some kind of russian program that where you're only entitled to three acres you know what i mean i'm not advocating for that at all i'm still free marketing yeah the the unintended consequences are is it is literally literally destroyed small town america yeah you know i mean it's because the guy that rolls in across the road is now from 40 miles away he's not spending any money with the local co-op at the local restaurant local gas station he's not doing anything and and it even took away the

personal touch, which, and maybe that's just a sentimental thing. You don't know this guy. You don't know him nothing. You don't even wave at him because you're pissed that he's here farming anyway. You know what I mean? Where before you help each other. Hey, this is my neighbor farming this. Hey, it's been a wet fall. Let's roll in. Let's help him, you know, or whatever. And it's just kind of everything's. I mean, I can't say much. We built a business that honestly benefits off of this. Sure. Yeah. We've got farm retirement sales that.

The ground is not going back to a small farmer. Right. But I don't necessarily like it. Right. That's how I, I'm not sitting here saying we got to change it. We got to put clamps on this or whatever. You know, I'm all about the free market and, and I was in the position to keep up with what the market will bear. And that's my loss. I'm, I don't,

I don't mean it that way. Well, I mean, if there's more profit in farming, guys can afford to farm with IHs and stuff. Yeah, or cases. It keeps them in business. Exactly. But I do think... There he goes again. But I do think anytime you have to subsidize an industry, and people can say, well, we don't get many farm subsidies anymore. Well, you get a hell of a lot through crop insurance. We can all agree on that. We do. That it can't really stay on its own, right? We bitch about windmills. Them fucking things would never work if they weren't subsidizing them. Well...

where's farming at yeah same way same way so that's just where i'm at with it i just don't feel like government money should be involved at any level or any shape or form that's my own personal thoughts to each their own on that deal that's just me absolutely any other comments new shift what do you want to complain about now i don't know it's

I just miss the old days. Yeah. I just, but I think that's every generation. It is. I mean, I'm, we miss everything about our childhood because we didn't hang on to all of it. And our, and our dad's generation would have said our generation was, I mean, they all had muscle cars. Most of them got rid of them. Yeah. Like,

They were mad about that to the day they died, you know? Well, we just talked about that. I mean, how many tractors I repainted or restored, which I hate that term because we never restored a thing, but people said we did. Everybody that bought them was somebody that either traded it off and wished they would have never got rid of it or somebody that skipped and bought some modern tractors.

And never got to have it. Because you couldn't afford to keep it. You had to get rid of that to get the next thing to do the job you needed to do. It was pretty rare for somebody to just perk one. We talked in the shed earlier. When I make a TikTok show in my old 78 Ford, people just go nuts. And the number one comment you will get, I had a picker year, 76, 77, whatever. Should have never got rid of that thing. They just like to see it. It brings back old memories. Yeah. But you're right when you come back to the M's and H's of the world.

When we were, I mean, we're going to be 45 this year. So when we were 30 years old, those were bringing pretty good money because our dads wanted to buy. That's what they grew up on. Now we're seeing that with muscle tractors. But eventually, our kids haven't spent much time on 1466s and 4020s. They don't care. My daughter at 11 years old, when I trained her to run a grain cart, my wife's like, we need a warm body. Just somebody to sit here to run the tractor back and forth.

E23 transmission because all you got to do is push on the brake. Yeah. She never learned how to do anything. Yeah. So much easier now to learn all that stuff. Actually driving a tractor. Yeah. So much easier. The stuff's bigger, but it's way easier and way safer. I remember back in the day we had a 715. It was muddy. In my mind, the ruts were 10 foot deep, but they were probably foot deep maybe.

But we had to keep a tractor and a wagon next to the combine to keep the weight off the combine. So we had a tractor hooked to every wagon. So a 400 on one, a 450 on this, an 806 on this one, so on and so forth. I thought you had tractors hooked on. It's never going to... Whatever. Anyway, you're never going to have that again. And that's why we trained my nephew and my son to run the grain cart, like he said.

you're in something with a nice little parachute you move the little lever bang off it goes like he's never had to feather a clutch when my nephew started running the tractor like his biggest obstacle was staying back in the seat far enough to keep the pressure switch active yeah so he could flip it into gear like he would yeah you weren't worried about stopping the tractor because you killed it due to the clutch it's gonna stop because you enough weight he put it in forwards it wouldn't go he's like i don't know what's wrong i'm like setting the seat

Then flip it forward. Slide the seat forward, whatever, although I'm adamantly against sliding seats forward. Well, some of us have to. No, you don't. You can lean forward.

I'm that way in. It's terrible getting in a vehicle or a tractor behind him. It's absolutely wretched. Nothing pisses me off more. The short people refuse to slide a seat back. And the only way you can slide a seat back is if you're in the seat. If it's already slid forward, you can't do it. If you're in a seat that's back, you can easily slide it forward, but you can't slide it back. So this spring, we had three, not major breakdowns, but three things. And I told my nephew and my brother, I'm like, I found the problem here. I'm like, what's that? I'm like, you dipshits slid the seat forward in all three of those vehicles.

All three of them have trouble. All the shit that the seat never got moved in is running fine. Draw the correlation. I think the problem is you slid the seat forward and that's what broke it. Yeah. I have to change the mirrors every time my wife drives something. I can't see. I don't know where my wife, and she's not short. I don't know where my wife is looking in the rear view mirror, but near as I can tell it's Albuquerque. Because...

To quote Bugs Bunny. But, because it, I don't even understand where this is going. Like, it's nowhere close. I don't know why for me, so I'm just average height. I'm not short. I'm not tall. But I have always been one of these, I sit really close to the steering wheel. All my vehicles, trucks, tractors, all that, I sit really close. And people just cuss when they get in my vehicles. But I don't like where you're just tippy-toeing the accelerator or reaching out for the steering wheel. I don't like that. I like that.

kind of lay over on a stair. You know what I mean? So, you know, vehicles have the programmable seat switches in the newer stuff. I never learned how. Maybe my jet pilot can teach me how to. My wife always complains. She's like, you got your seat laid back like you're a rap star. I'm like, okay, I'll hit your button. Does this look comfortable with my neck clear cock touching my shoulder? Yeah. Because I'm long in the back and short in the leg. Like, I'm above average height, but not by much. But all my height is in my back. I'm like, does this look nice? No, it doesn't. It looks like I'm trying to drive an Alice Chambers. This is not good. Yeah.

Well, you'd have to set up to one side. I cannot drive eight hours like this. I'm going to lay the seat clear back is what it is. That's where I'm at. I assume, and maybe you guys do, I don't know a lot of tractor history, but did a fucking mailman invent the WD-40 and 45 where you set up to one side? Like, was he putting mail in boxes? I mean, I don't know. Whoever come up with that deal. That actually came out of the cub, didn't it, though? Because when you were a row fill cullivate, the idea was that you could look down the row. Right, you could see right down the row.

Even though you've got to have nine-foot-long legs to reach the clutch that's clear over on the opposite side of the track. In Texas, yeah. Albuquerque. Absolutely. A little bit south of there. Yep. But coming back to your question on the farming, I do want to throw out, too, that it is hard as a landowner if I'm going to give you $200 an acre, but Nick over here wants to give you $450. I mean, how much do I like?

You don't like me that much. Basically, I'm saying we're over $200 million friends. Well, that's what I'm saying. You're willing to give way more than I. So, I mean, I get it. That's your investment. That's your retirement, whatever you're going to call it. And we talked this shit earlier, too. When machinery got nicer, guys were farming until they're 85, 90 years old. Yeah. Yeah.

That's actually the biggest thing is crippled farming. It was easier to do it longer. I can tell you right here. Nobody in my grandparents' generation wanted to farm past 65. They were counting the days. Yeah. And I can tell you one thing for sure. Around here locally, just where we live...

The guys who are highly successful and rolling now, maybe don't farm the most acres in the county, but they own a ton and are rolling fine, are the ones whose dad quit when they were 65. Yeah. And the boy just took it over and the dad got out of the way and they just let him go. They're the ones that are rolling where a lot of these other guys, their dads are 79 years old and they're still splitting the crop with him and nobody's making enough money to do anything. You know, I heard something on a different podcast that

has stuck with me is when the son came home to join the dad's business and the partner's business, and they were an auction company and they said, look, we built this. We don't want to divide this pie. You need to go find another pie to bring in. And some of the more successful operations I can think of, essentially the dad said, look,

Everything I can do is sustaining this. I'll give you some equipment. I'll do what I can to help you, but you need to go make your own. And some of them just, nope, not going to happen. I'm not taking the risk. And some of them are probably the more successful ones that we deal with. Really? Yeah, I could see that. And then later on, they merge back together when the dad gets older. Where I feel bad for the guy is...

how many guys come back to the farm or were helping their dads the whole time they grew up you know as much as they could through college post-college working a job and it never really becomes theirs until it's too late to do anything with it yeah and i see that every day or they get the off-farm job that pays well enough now it's like well

I mean, I can't really quit this. I've got 12 years into it now. Well, they're 50 years old. They're like, well, shit. Well, there's two sides to that coin, too. I mean, if you're the company that invested all this and the best employee you can get is the farm kid. Yeah.

And you're going to lose him 15 years in because he's going to quit to go farm. Yeah. So then there's the other side of that. But he's going to buy his sisters out. So he's like, well, shit, do I want to tie on to that dad at 50 years old? Then comes the question of are you laying up an inheritance for your kids or for your kids' kids? Yeah. And if it skips a generation, kind of like what the Bible talks about,

You need to be building your own to give to your grandkids, and your dad is building what goes to your kids. And there's so much of this where everybody just expects it to be handed to them coming direct from their dad. Yeah. I'm not sure that works. It doesn't seem like it's working real great. Yeah. There's a lot of factors to that.

Yeah, there's a lot of factors there. There is. But it's one of the conversations we get on the equipment side and even in the auction side. Alex gets one group of people. I get phone calls from another group. And it's kind of in that ballpark. It's guys our age in that 40 to 50 range. And they're struggling because that family can still sit in that tractor at 80. And...

they don't know what to do because the family's getting old enough that they're comfortable they've got something they've built something and they don't want to maybe risk it or chance it and then they're going okay well that's fine because mine i can do what i want but then the kids our age are can't do anything they're stuck one of the ones i hear fairly regularly is you got a guy whose dad died young but they are very very successful because they got to take that deal over

20 years sooner than any of us would have. I can cite two of those where the dad died and they fall apart. That happens too. But they would gladly trade that time, but they're doing really well because they got to take the farm over 20 years earlier than anybody else their age. Right, yeah.

But it depends on how that family dynamic is because the galaxy is saying if there's brothers, sisters, you know, whatever it is. Yeah. Dad, the keystone that holds that thing together, they leave or pass away. And it's a train wreck or they, they go to success. And you see it all the time when, when the patriarch dies, it goes a couple of different ways, but everybody starts getting an opinion real fast, right? Like even though he could have laid it out very clearly to everybody, uh,

everybody starts getting an opinion really fast. Everybody starts wanting to use this, wrong to use that, but they wouldn't do that if, if dad was still alive. Right, right. So you see that a lot when mom or dad dies, that Keystone person, man, the gloves are off. That's part of the, what's, you know, you go back to the cash rent comment earlier. What's wrong in ag is, uh,

One thing that we don't do well enough in ag is communicate business planning and transition. Yeah. And that's one of the biggest failures. I mean, I've seen a lot of people. The Brewer generation refuses to have the conversation about how it's going to go. Yeah. It is uncomfortable. Yeah. But they don't want to have it. So they won't have the conversation. But they'd rather let them duke it out. They might talk to you. They might talk to your brother. They might talk to your other brother. They might talk to your uncle. Yeah.

But never together. All at once. Let's just hammer this out and absolutely know how it's going to go when this happens. Right. And you may not like the conversation, but you know what's happening. Right. And they did. And I generally never stick up for the boomer generation. And I'll just say it because a lot of them were needy and greedy. Not all. Not all by any means, but a lot were. Yes.

got so high so fast. When the baby boomers were 45 years old, they're like, well, you know, looks like this boy's going to farm, so I'll give him this acreage. By then, we'll have enough cash saved back, give the sisters that, and it's all going to be even. But it went so high so fast that now I'm going to give the boy $8,000

$8 million worth of ground, and I don't have $8 million in cash to even out with the girls. So now what are we going to do? Now we're cutting the girls in. Yeah, so now how are we going to... The off-farm brother that doesn't farm. Yeah, so how do we have this conversation? And now it's awkward, and it's... So we're just going to avoid it. We're going to die with them and figure it out on the backside. Well, some of them are pretty good. I can think of one we've got in our group that...

They created essentially an LLC. The kids, that ground's not going anywhere. Now, one of the heirs may be the one that farms it. One of them may not, but it's its own business, and they just get checks out of it. And nobody's going to have to buy each other out because I think in their bylaws, it's not going to happen. And to me, and Nick and I even probably differ on this. We've talked in the podcast. It is more important to me, and not that I own some big estate. Don't misunderstand me here, but if I did...

I want my kids to get along the rest of their lives. That is my number one goal. And if that means then the day I die, if we have to sell all this to make that happen or we get to keep it, whatever, I want my kids to get along. Do not fight over money. The Bible tells you that stays in your family for seven generations when you do that. I mean, it does. So I totally get it. If I can't leave the boy, all of this and cut the girls out. But now if we work out a deal where,

He gets to farm it, and you guys get the checks to even this out. So be it. However that works out. But as far as just flat give somebody this, and you get nothing just because you were born a female, I don't agree with that. Well, it goes both ways, though. Not just the female side. I mean, we've got some families where, say, there's three or four of them, and they're all boys. Sure. Yeah, I agree. One comes back, and the other three have good jobs. Sure.

There's one they'll say, I don't need it. Don't care. Let them have it and be successful. The other two, I want my cut. Right. How do you figure that out? Either through a corporation interest or it can get messy. Yeah. And my mom's family, like a generation or two ago, girls got nothing. Right. That was it. They didn't get shit. You should have married a farmer. If his dad followed our plan, you're good. Yep.

Can't argue with that, but once it started getting split up the other way, well, then it doesn't work out very well. And I'll go back to the fact my mom and dad are just average Joes. They're not wealthy, multimillionaire type people, or not to my knowledge. May there be some big surprise. I don't know, but I don't think that's the case. But even if you break it down, because the best way to find a solution, right, is look at the extremes. Extreme high, extreme low, right? So let's just say my mom and dad were worth $500,000 for no apparent reason.

and at the end of the day they pass away and i look at adherence i really do is that's a gift you shouldn't expect it you shouldn't whatever privilege not right but at the end of the day our whole family gets along i have two brothers we all get along mom and dad we all get along but at the end of the day they pass away and my brothers get 250 000 each i get nothing is that not going to get under your crawl a little bit even though yeah even though you didn't expect it you didn't you're going to be wandering that's going to cause animosity i don't care who you are that's what's going to get you

You know, when we started the auction business, I was never prepared for the amount of widows that I would meet with and the amount of these type of conversations you get into that you didn't want to be in. Yeah. That's the side nobody sees. Yeah. There's times like Matt is way more relatable to these than I would be. You know, I'm an only child. My daughter's an only child.

I don't have a good foundation to stand on to talk intelligent to them. Yep. And it's just sad how people treat each other. It is. Over money. Would it not be any different? I've never met either one of you two until tonight. Would it not be weird though? Let's just say we met at a bar tonight and every time we need a beer, I buy a beer for three of us, but not the fourth. And every time I don't buy a beer for that same fourth guy. Yeah.

At the end of the night, you're going to be scratching your head. What the hell, Tony? And you don't even know me. I mean, I don't drink, so that probably works out well. These are lifelong DDs. Yeah, but you know what I'm saying? At the end of the night, even though there was no hard feelings, there was no animosity, you're going to scratch your head and be like, well, what did I do to this guy? Exactly. And so does that not...

And that's over a couple of beers. Does that not equate into maybe $200,000, $300,000 as to why you got it all? Just because you chose to be a farmer. And I totally get why you want to keep the family farm together. I'm not discounting that. It's truly a double-edged sword. It truly is. But why do you? Because what if I had, so my situation, I got one boy and two girls. So let's say, okay, fine. I own 600 acres. The boy gets it all because he wants to farm.

me and the wife get killed in a plane crash tomorrow and he's like well i got all the ground but you know what i could just dump all this and i could retire yeah and so now i'm going to retire at 30 years old my sister's got to work the rest of her life well now is that fair no

No, I would say not. It comes back to having those conversations. Nobody wants that. We had a guy in our office. They're a fairly well-off family. The one is farming, and I got talking to him, and he's in line to take it over. He's one of the nephews. He's supposed to get to farm it. And he's like, you know, I got a good job. And at the moment, I'm questioning if it is right and fair that

to expect my aunts and uncles to take the amount of reduction in cash rent they're going to have to take to allow me to farm versus what we can get on the open market. I can farm 200 acres of it and get to play farmer, keep my job, and everybody else just divides the check from the big guy.

yeah yep you know that conversation's hard from every angle the conversations need to happen and the other thing you you mentioned the widows and sitting there you don't fully understand those people's situations to your in those situations yeah you you you think you can but you really can't and i didn't realize that till my dad passed like my wife's mom passed years ago now i was not where i should have been on that deal

And then once I lost a parent and I hear these other guys talk about losing their dad, so on and so forth, like I get it now, but you can't understand that or view it from their angle until it happens to you. Same deal as the people you're dealing with. Like it's very difficult to, to navigate that until you're in that position.

And when you've met that one family, you've met that one family. I mean, there may be some similarities, but in the overall scheme, there's some twist that you're like, I'm going to write that one down because that was a good opportunity to learn from that. Yeah, yeah. I always figured if I had a big estate and just had the one boy that wanted to farm, the way I would personally handle it is, okay,

you're entitled to farm all this ground. If cash rent here was bringing $300 an acre, you're not getting it for $150. You're going to give what it's worth. And I'm not saying you couldn't have some sort of a built-in increase maybe along the way. All the girl's got to do is cash the checks, but you can farm that the rest of your life. However, if you quit farming, whatever the deal is...

then everybody takes their third out of it and that's it it don't go to your kids it's between my three kids when you're done farming we're splitting it now you know there's some other dynamics in there too though like let's say let's say you don't wake up tomorrow yeah and then carolyn ends up marrying whoever and then that's a whole and they've got kids or whatever like there's there's so many dynamics in that deal that if you don't have the conversations as things are going

how do you ever know and you have to have it with everybody and you have to have it with everybody in the same room I could have a conversation with Alex tonight off to the side I can't have a conversation with Matt tonight off to the side you and I cannot have a conversation that doesn't end in arguing over 86 series tractors being junk this is true see see where he goes I hear I am trying to be serious the one time in my life

you know, and, but we don't have the conversation in the same room, but it's about auction stuff, career equipment stuff, whatever. But we weren't all sitting there in the same room. So we have different takes on the body language, the, the comments that were made, the so on and so forth. Like he, he,

Tick-backed me on the 86 Series thing, but Matt was trying to buy one off me, and now all of a sudden we're crossways, sideways. We've talked a hundred times. If you're not in the same room having the same conversation, you don't know. On social media, it can be a simple comment, but you immediately take it as it was a shitty comment, even though it wasn't meant to be. I could text you right now and be like, you about home?

punctuation matters that comes off absolutely it does make that t-shirt but like if i get a text i always read text in a shitty tone i don't know why but that i think everybody does like if i get a text right now from my wife are you about home i'm like am i in trouble like what i do

She might not mean anything by it. She may be laughing hysterically when she sent it. But she's like, oh, you're out with your buddies. You're over at Tony's. I know it's a time where I'm just doing it to screw with you. But I don't know. From a text, I don't know that. And it's the same thing with conversations. Like, have the entire family in the room have the conversation. Now, I would say probably if it maybe the first conversation is your dad and the kids, maybe not even your mom, maybe and damn sure not yourself, your significant others. Yeah.

Have that conversation first and then work from there. That's probably the only rule I have. And once again, no largest state here, but there is no in-laws involved in this. This is between me, my wife, and my immediate children who are blood to me. Outside of that, you're not welcome to the conversation. And then everything in writing all the way down to if you want that bowl that you ate ice cream out of when you were whatever age.

It needs to be in writing. Yeah. One of the families that got along excellent, it was that way. They knew they'd already put tape on the bottom of the bowl or that cupboard. I mean, it was known 10 to 15 years before it happened. Yeah. But in the event of the airplane crash, you know, there was no question. Get it hammered out as early as you can. I always say that fathers should have to sit down with their sons when they're junior, senior, or high school. Be like, hey,

what are we doing and get a little bit of that hammered out in advance so you can make those plans for later which is hard for a junior in high school to decide if they're going to farm or not or so on so forth but like if you don't have that conversation at some point i mean it's pretty easy for my dad both his boys went to farm and just being my brother it's pretty easy you split in half but where do we go from there so right

How would that be if in the perfect world, let's just say you've got a boy and a girl that's a year apart. That's not uncommon that they were a year apart. The boy, you ask him, well, I don't really know what I'm going to do. So he fiddle fucks around, goes to college for six years. In the meantime, she gets married to a guy who wants to farm. I'm ready to bail. We're not where we're at. Are you taking it? Is he taking it? What are we doing?

Have some conversation. The number one pet peeve for me that I see from the business side, nothing to do with me personally farming, but from what I see from the business side is you get all these guys and they milk their kids along. No, I need help doing this. I need help doing that. And then, well, shit. I mean, sure, you helped me for the last 32 years, but I'm going to give your sister half and

your half sister a third and your other half sister this and yeah you're kind of screwed i guess you're not farming anymore but i'm about i see you like that's that's the part that burns my ass like don't bait them into you have to farm yeah i've got a very very good friend that

50 years old woke up and it's like i worked my whole life away for a promise that's never gonna happen i see it every day yeah every day in the business i i talked to guys that have you know since they were 12 years old 10 years old working on the farm did all the shit busting ass only to find out at 50 that they're not getting any of it yeah you know it's like well i would have

stopped and did something else. Literally could have been a greeter at Walmart and been better off. And probably still been married and not been an alcoholic. Which brings me to a hypothetical. Where would we be if a farmer just said, you know what, fuck it. Nobody's allowed to inherit anything. Every generation starts over. What you end up with is what you end up with. Think of the families that it would have saved. How many families have been destroyed

Over 80 acres of farm ground. You go back to the Bible, you're describing the Jubilee thing. Every 50 years, it goes back to the family that had it. So you can't overpay for something. And you can't get, you go back to your original plot in that family and you start back over. Yeah. It's amazing how everything gets fixed if you just go back to exactly how it was written. Right. Funny how the Bible's true. It's weird. Yeah.

And that even brings up another point where I'm extremely, extremely torn. I mean, I hate property taxes and shit as much as anybody, inheritance taxes, all that. But you see why our ancestors left Europe, because it got to where only the haves had anything, because they had the loopholes for the inheritance tax, all that shit. You know, if I farm 4,000 acres and you farm 40, and I can just keep leaving my kids generation after generation, 4,000 acres, the next generation doubles it.

Your kids double yours. Okay. So you've got 80, I've got 8,000. You know, we just keep, who do you think has more buying power? Your kids or mine? Well, it goes back to having those conversations earlier because then you can get the resource help you need through advisors, legal. I mean, make those plans, but when we just don't nag and it's a big problem, probably more than it's not. Yeah. I mean, there's a demographic of people that are here now and they've already established that hierarchy, the business plan, where it's going, how it's going to look. Yeah.

and they're good they've got it figured out because they've pulled that resource and then because it's a stacking of generation upon generation if you want to be a successful farmer now it is yeah absolutely and the ones that set that up trained the next one to set up the next one and they bought the ground but it's the business structure small america is a little bit screwed in the fact that well we're going to use you know

Billy Joe Jim Bob for a lawyer because that's who the family's always had, but they're not necessarily the best estate lawyer to plan this deal out forever. But that's what we've always done. But that's what we've always done. We don't know any different. We're not great at the business side of it. We're, we've always, we've always used this firm, whoever it is, whatever. And they're not necessarily great at the transitional. And some, something about the not great lawyer that's in the small town, something else happened along the way to where, uh,

When times got really bad, they sent, if you had three kids, you sent the two smart ones to college and said, you're better off to go do this. And you kept the dumb one and made him the farmer. Made him the farmer.

And a very small percentage of them didn't go broke or lose it all eventually. And the bad part is where that flip now is the dumb one become worth $10 million. Because the ground went up. Yeah, he made it. Yep. And he might have been just dumb enough to, well, it borders me, so I'll buy it. Yeah. Not pencil it out or anything. And then inflation just takes care of him. Yeah. Agreed.

Sometimes, Matt, you got to buy the chickens and figure it out later. I've said it before, and that quote's been all over TikTok, you know, that farming is one business no matter how much you want it. Yeah, you'll never, you can't. I'm not saying you can get into it. You could say tomorrow, I want to be a lawyer, and you could buckle down and do whatever it takes and read the books and whatever and maybe become a lawyer. Well, I mean, Nick and I have talked about this. His path to being a gynecologist is going to be pretty tough with the size of his fingers. It is, yeah.

It is. If I was a lesbian, I'd be well hung. Yeah. Not giving prostate exams, you're out. I feel bad for the guys I was doing it for. Dog, leave him alone. We got an old dog joining us here. Yeah, he's in here. He ain't got no headphones or mic on. No. Yeah, the other thing, I don't know where it came from. If it was the guys in Iowa, what they call theirs, but, you know,

You work your whole life doing something so that you can farm. I fit that a hundred percent. Yeah. Yeah. I left to go work for a dealership. I eventually became a jockey and men, the auction thing. I just keep saying that someday maybe I'll just farm. Yeah. I highly doubt it. Cause I'm too addicted to buying stuff. But how many people did you see make life altering decisions on the hope and dream that they were going to farm? And then looking back, they're all like, yeah,

I could have done anything else and been better off. Yeah, a few. I mean, financially, outside of ground going up in value. Had we stayed in 1991, there would be a lot of guys up a river. Literally, I mean, I fall into this category. Had some of that not...

you know, grown in Bayou, so on and so forth. Like could did literally anything else. Well, I think part of the problem is that people romanticize the act of farming. The act of farming makes zero money. There is so much emotion that it's not even, there is no reason to farm. The only reason to do any of it is to buy dirt. Yeah.

And because it tends to inflate. Yeah. And it's just like, and you can argue, oh, the stock market would be better. Well, go to your banker and ask him, will you loan me the money to buy the stock market? Yeah. He won't. He won't. But he'll loan you the money to buy the dirt because it pays a dividend while it inflates. Yeah. Yep. And maybe this is a loaded question. In our generation, we've been better off to borrow the money and put it in the stock market.

Yeah. Bitcoin. Yeah. Bitcoin. Yeah. Whatever. And this would be a loaded question to you because you're in the business. So maybe it's not even fair, but where, I mean, is land still a good buy at 15 to $20,000 an acre? Well, I can't predict the future, but I mean, the old saying has still proved true that it's always too high at the time, no matter what generation you ask him, it is always too high. It is. It never will pay for itself.

i mean there was a few times like about 2003 it probably would have but you didn't know it at the time even yeah no and at the end of it your only regret is that you couldn't buy more of it yeah the other problem we've got now is the blue sky money that's hitting it you know you get a pipeline that comes across it and they give you a hundred thousand dollars you get one power pole and you get forty thousand dollars and it's in the corner of your field yeah the stupid windmill thing

So pumps money into it. Solar, the downfall to is you lose it, but we had them in our office the other day and they had 400 and some acres in the one County. And I'm like, well, you want the other County too? And I'm like,

if i'm gonna do the solar or if i'm gonna do the wind i want the solar too he goes well no farmer wants that you can't farm it i'm like i don't want to live here if you put the stupid windmills up so i want you to take it all yeah i'm moving i want five thousand dollars an acre out of it and i'll go buy something somewhere else yeah i told tony for a long time because they're testing wind around my house ish they put a wind tower up i'm gone

I'm moving somewhere where they're not. I'm out. I'm, I'm bailing. I'm going somewhere else. Matt and I were in, what's the name of the town with the big bowl? Audubon. Audubon, Iowa. Met with a guy about hosting an auction site to do a consignment sale once a year there. We're standing at his property and this thing's a quarter of a mile away and you can. Yep. I will not put up with that. I'm,

The second they start building one of those, my house is for sale. I am leaving. I'm done. And to me, is the whole wind, solar, whatever, is it not the cocaine in the hamster wheel that farming is? Okay, you know what? Screw it. I'm going to put this 160 acres over here in solar because I'm going to get $100,000 a year. Yeah. So now I'm just getting $100,000 a year for nothing.

So now I'm going to go over here and buy a farmland, but so is the other guy, the other guy, the other guy. Correct. So where does it end? Yeah. And you just keep pumping the ground. So to answer your question, I think it's probably still worth buying.

Because I don't think it's done going up. Yeah, and I'm not saying you're wrong at all. The only thing you have to have in all those equations is you have to own the ground. You have to own the land. Correct. That's the common denominator. The act of farming is useless. It's fun. It's just a way to pay for the asset. Unless you have to make money with it. Our generation ain't going to do it. Our kids' generation might. They'll take the lab-grown meat. I'm convinced of that. Our generation, because we still got enough boomers in us. We're like, fuck, we ain't eating that.

But you get one, two more generations. Yeah. And once you do that, it's over. They want to know what a filet mignon tastes like. Yeah. I'm convinced it is over at that point. They'll have solar panels on every one of those things. And as we just learned tonight talking to our roofing guy that I met, they create hot spots and major hail storms. They reflect a lot of energy back into the atmosphere, and that's where your bad storms are.

Look it up. It happens every day. There's always a cause and effect. Nothing is just rainbows. They script the jet stream, so on, so forth. That shit doesn't work near as green as they claim it to be. Well, there's nothing to agree about. But I'd never heard the term geratio until 2020. Had you? Agreed. Never heard it. Now you hear it every year somewhere. Yep. Yeah.

So what caused that change? Atmospheric river. Had you ever heard that term? Never heard it, no. Now you do, all the time. Yep. And I've never looked up the stats. Like how many windmills do we add a year in the U.S.? Or how many acres of solar panels? I mean, it's a bunch. We've got a dealer in Texas we do a lot of business with. They've hauled equipment up to Illinois to put on our sales. We buy five to ten tractors a year from them.

They add one area, lose 70,000 acres to solar panels. The nutrient in that area, I'm not even sure if it's still open. The Case IH dealer in that area, you know, how many techs do you need? Yeah. That's a lot. That's a lot. And the flip side that I will say to play devil's advocate, just to be fair, and I'm just talking Midwest farming, I can't speak for vegetables, whatever.

They're growing corn in a hell of a lot more places now than when I was a kid. Yes. Due to irrigation or weather. Like when I was a kid, you didn't raise corn in North Dakota. It would freeze out. You didn't do it. Yeah. True. But irrigation is going away. Yeah. Absolutely. We've got friends in the panhandle of Oklahoma that now they used to have ample water to do a whole section. Yeah.

and grow corn now they grow wheat on all of it by 160 and when they kick it on they lose the water pressure in their showers and that's just happened in the last couple years yep and i'm not going to say that like they're not draining i mean when you stop and think about irrigating millions of acres i mean that is a ton of water and i'm not saying we're not depleting aquifers or whatever but to play conspiracy theorist do you think it's also easy to

We ease this down a little bit so, well, if I can't farm it, I just will put it in solar panels. Yeah. Yeah. I mean, you know what I mean? I'm not saying that's happening. I'm just saying to play conspiracy theorist.

Could it be happening? There's plenty of places they could put solar panels and wind towers. The whole state of Nevada looks pretty good to me. From what I've been across. New Mexico, Arizona. Yeah. But instead, they're putting them here. Yeah. Where we get lots of clouds, lots of snow. Yeah. The flattest block of shit you've got, that's where they're littering. That's where I smell the rat. That's where I smell the rat when we're covering up prime farm ground. Yeah. If you come out here and said, no, we're going to knock down these trees and put them here, it's like, well, okay.

Whatever. But when you're covering up prime farm ground, I smell a rat. You want to put them on top of a strip mall? Go ahead. You want to take 230 bushel an acre of corn ground out of production? That doesn't make sense. Why aren't we putting it on every roof? Why aren't you subsidizing the homeowner? You'd start there. Yeah. Help the guy that's paying his electric bill. They've got shingles that are solar panels, but we're not using them much. Yeah. Doesn't make sense. Yeah. I just...

I smell a rat. Yeah. I think he pulled the subsidies. I think it all goes away. It's just like everything else. 20 years from now, they're going to be like, can you believe those dipshits covered that ground in solar panels and wind towers? What a bunch of morons. Back in 2020, what were they thinking? Yeah. I mean, you go back to the 80s and all the girls had the giant hair and the aquanet.

Remember, the ozone was going to go away and we were all going to be dead. Can we get back to a hole in the ozone? I went back to the time where there was a hole in the ozone and Aquanet was killing us because I like big hair. Those girls rot. I'll take the hole in the ozone. Bring big hair back. Absolutely. I can't wait for big hair to come back. I don't know. It does not happen. It was a hole that let the heat out. It was fine.

Also, we need to go back to acid rain. Yeah. Acid rain. You have to buy tunnel wax or the paint is not going to be on your truck when you go outside in the morning because acid rain is taking it off. You know what happens? Now you have to put sulfur on your corn crop because you don't get it for free. Yeah. I just want a couple of tanker loads of 1980s.

Reagan diesel fuel, some turtle wax, some acid rain, a hole in the ozone, a potato gun. I'm good. I'll bet they're not telling that in the city history books that we're going to have to put sulfur on corn now because we're not getting it anymore. No, they're not. Yeah.

My grandmother was in Northern Illinois, and that was a discussion we've had once before about it. And she's like, so what are the things you spray? And I said, micronutrients are one of the biggest things we have to spray right now. And they look and say, what are you talking about? You know, I got a cousin from New York. They're in Rockford, Belvedere, and then California and Atlanta. And I'm like, the biggest thing we're spraying right now is sulfur. Really? I'm like, yeah, we got rid of the coal-fired power plants. Yeah.

And we lost our free source, so now we've got to pay for micronutrients to be put down. Yeah. Now we're paying $30 an acre to do it. Thanks. It got real quiet real fast. Yeah. Crazy. I don't believe any of it. I think it's just a big... Well, anytime the government tells you this is the way it is, you know it's wrong. Yeah. Yeah. What's Reagan say? What is it? Trust, but verify. No, it was, what's the most...

Scary words. I'm here to help. Yeah, I'm from the government and I'm here to help. Absolutely scary. Yeah. Yeah.

And I don't know how you ever get past where we're at. I mean, I don't think you do. We're past voting. We're past. Yeah. And we don't even go down the politics road. But I mean, it's just. It's ugly. I don't believe any of it. No, we already answered it. We talked about what you read the book. I mean, the end of it comes eventually and straightens itself out. To me, why is there not a hydroelectric dam on every river in America? Yeah. I mean, it's free. The water's flowing right through there anyway. Yeah.

Seems like it makes, that would be way more sense than Wendig Towers or whatever, you know? Yeah.

Just follow the money. Yeah, absolutely. There's something there. You go clear back to standard oil. I just saw a video on this the other day. Of course, we've always had these cars that will run on water or these cars that run this, that, and the other. The oil companies always buy them out. And squash it. Follow the money. Alternators on the wheels. Absolutely. That was the thing, and we've mentioned it in the past podcast. So you've got to think backwards on what I'm about to tell you. So let's just say all of our cars are electric, and they'll run, I don't want an electric car, 250 miles. I don't know what it is.

So that's all we have. That's all we know. And you've got one. And I say, hey, you know what? I got a car now that we can pump this shit out of the ground. And all you got to do is pull into the station, stick a nozzle in. In about three minutes, you can go another 600 miles. People would be lined up around the corner to buy that. Yes.

It's opposite. It's opposite now. I mean, everything cycles around. Low-rise jeans are coming back. Gosh, I hope they do. 90s big hair and low-rise jeans. Yeah, you get the 80s big hair with Britney Spears pants. The...

The jeans and the shorts that touch the bottom of their boobs, that's not a good look. Yeah, they call it mom jeans. I do not understand that. It's because they can put their wallet and their pocket over their shoulder. That's where their mom jeans, and that's terrible. Mom jeans are a bad look.

I need a little whale tail. I don't need it anymore because I'm happily married. But for the next generation, for Tony and I's sons, I hope there's low-rise jeans. We missed the bell-bottoms. Maybe they can go back to tight-rolling jeans. I never caught any of that fat because I was too young. I caught a little bit of it. I can tight-roll a jean. Oh, no, that was big in Mount Sterling. I can tight-roll a jean. They did the roll-up bangs at the same time. It was just two years ago in Mount Sterling. They're a little slow on the river. Exactly.

It takes a while to get there without the air. Absolutely. It does. It does. Yeah. I like the tight roll jeans. Uh, the eighties and nineties. Loved them. What a time to be alive. Yeah. I remember when the tight roll jeans with we'd have roller skate time. Oh yeah. You know, the girls standing up on the roller skates on that pretty impressive roller skates for the height. But yes.

Well, everybody else got taller, too, so it's not like it helped. He got to be five foot for once. Yeah, he rolled up those girls that hadn't put their skates on yet and be like, hey, hey, baby. How you doing? But that was so cool. I've never once dated one that was shorter than me. Well, I hope not. There wasn't any in the county shorter than you, though. I say you'd be getting into some pretty sketchy stuff if you did. Not a lot of midgets and mouserling. I mean...

But what a time to be alive. We literally caught the tail end of everything. The cool vehicles, no internet. I mean, just everything. You just name it, we caught the cool farm machinery. That's what kills it now is cell phones and the internet. Nobody was videoing it all. You just have fun, not worry about it. That's what my kids were asking me the other day about college. And they're like, well, where's your pictures from college? I said, kids, we had Kodak disposable cameras. That was it. I mean, we grew up in the Dazed and Confused, Friday Night Lights, Varsity Blues era where we got...

I remember when there was a photo at every event, and they'd drop you off at the little booklet, and you'd pick the pictures you wanted. And when they went digital and you had to put your credit card on the Internet, I have a lot of pictures from my freshman year. I've got zero pictures from there on. Because once it went digital and you had to pay on the Internet with a credit card, I'm out. I got nothing from my sophomore, junior, senior year. Let's preface this back. I think we're all close in age, but when did you guys graduate? 98. 98.

Okay. I'm 97. 99. Yeah, so I'm the old man. Yeah, you are. Matt and your agent. Yeah. I mean, you're the rich kid if you had the digital because no one where I went to school had that. Well, they're progressive over here. That's right. They're in western Illinois. They're in eastern Illinois, close to Indiana and Chicago, and they adopt everything quicker. But we are better than you. That's a whole other podcast. We weren't farming with crabs, dear. We were ready to roll.

I went to the U of I and basically my friends made fun of me the whole time. They're like, you're telling me you struggle to get two numbers for corn? I'm like, well, it's got to rain a lot. And they're like, oh, fuck, we do that every day. I'm like, yeah, well, my shit ain't black. I can see black dirt from where I'm at, but we don't have any of it. Yeah, back then.

now coincidentally our ground was just as high as theirs if not higher but well that's our problem too we're way higher than the good ground because there's just everybody bids for the best piece like it's the last one they're ever going to see yeah ken kerr included yeah happens it happens yep it is what it is yeah no doubt were you a leatherneck i was yep figures both of us now you had to tell him that i was

He's probably an agger, weren't he? Hey, back then it was worth it. You were probably an agger, weren't you? Oh, yeah. He's the chairman of Smoking Hog. Best party school that there was during his time. That's right. He knows how to pay off cops, all kinds of stuff. We sold the most amount of beer in one night in the history for five years of WIU at that party. I could see that. Three beer trucks sat in our driveway. I get that. Yeah.

But the cool part was we brought in more cops, but the roads don't go there. That's all they had. You didn't need them. Unfortunately, for Macomb, they didn't need roads. They had a train track that ran straight out of Chicago and dumped everybody off in that place. And that is the demise. That's the demise of that school. Yeah, I get that. From 13-5 to 4,000. Yeah, I get that.

Yeah, nobody's going to send their kids there to go with what's there. Saw a stat the other day from 2010. It looked like Western Illinois dropped 43% enrollment and Champaign dropped almost 25%. Yeah. So it's just a... Yeah. The time. Yeah. Our kids are old enough to be our age. They're going to sit around a table and say the same stories. Man, can you believe? Yeah. You know, when I was in school, it was hard to fill all the ag houses because they let a bunch of girls in.

Yeah.

It's just going away. You know, they were changing the standards. They're manipulators, you know. They saw changes coming probably or something. I don't know. You got to check some boxes. It was, you know, I forget the term for it. I still say, and I do this.

I guess they can't tell you because it's illegal, but anywhere I go, I check Native American on the box. I was born an American. I'm a Native American. Absolutely. I don't care what anybody says. And they can't ask you to provide. No. Are you guys not Native Americans? Were you not born an American? Where were you born? Well, I am. He's a ginger. I don't know where they come from. So where were you born? I'm Native American. Western America. Western was kind of its own country, though, so maybe neither one of these guys qualified.

The part that people don't understand on this, unless if you ever want a good book to read, read Claire Wolf's 101 Things Due to the Revolution, and you have to collapse the system. Yeah. So if it's good for the goose, it's good for the gander, right? Yeah. So I honestly think if people want to stop these boys and girls sports, then put boys in girls sports, but don't make no bones about it.

I'm a boy until the minute I step on the court. Now I'm a girl. I'm going to go out and slam dunk it, and I'm going to score 800 points this game. The sports thing is easy to solve, Tony. There's just sports. There's no boys' sports. There's no girls' sports. There's just sports. You don't make the team. You're just done. All of a sudden, all these guys, all these liberals that are for all this equality, this, that, and the other, realize, well, shit.

There's no girls in this. There's no girls in sports. I guess we're going to have to eliminate this. Nope. There's just sports. And you fought for Title IX all those years. But you know how it would be. Well, we're going to have to start a girls team. We had that until you dipshits got along. Exactly. We had a girls team. But you morons ruined it.

it. Thanks for nothing. Let's just get rid of it all in general. That ain't no shit. That's the whole of the podcast. Don't get me started on the sports thing. People are tired of hearing me bitch about it on TikTok. They truly are, but it's a fucking waste. And I come back to the point... I wish I'd have been the guy that invented it. That guy's a millionaire. And the wife and I were talking about this the other day. So my kids who actually do work and don't play sports, in a sense...

And this is going to sound very victim-like, and I don't mean it this way, but my kids almost don't have a summer now either because all their friends play sports. Yeah. So they have nobody to hang out with. Yeah. Because they're all sitting on a fucking softball or a baseball bench somewhere. No, they should be all throwing bales of hay together. Yeah, so that's why my boy, I don't know if you've seen my latest TikTok, he's like, fuck it, I'll take a second job. So he literally works from 6.15 in the morning to 10 o'clock at night now. So I'm like, break it in. Yeah.

I would have so much money by the time you're 30 years old that you just fucking just start throwing $100 bills out the window at these fuckers when you drive by. By 26, he'll have more money than these kids. We have a friend, very, very good friend, bought his first farm when he was like a freshman in college. Didn't screw around with hardly anything. Would drive home, baled hay, sold straw,

Anything he could do. But back then, he bought the first farm for like $800 an acre or something like that. And another friend and I talk about this. None of us can ever catch him because he had the first one paid for before we ever got in. I beat it in my boy's head every day that all these dipshits who are playing baseball and shit all summer and don't know it. They play baseball and they watch screens. That's all they do.

And I hate to say this. You can call me a crook. You can call me whatever. I said, you be the guy at 26 years old when this guy can't change a tire, you break it off in his ass.

$300, I'll put the spare tire on your car. Other than that, set in a fucking Walmart parking lot because I don't care. That's where I'm at with it. Capitalize on it. Why wouldn't you? Why would you not? Make everything you can and then max that young farmer thing and buy the first thing. Anything it takes. And it truly does. It hates for me to say that, but...

I'm to the point I don't care. It's supply and demand at this point. You're the only kid that can change a tire, then guess what? It's $500 to change a tire. Plain and simple. You guys should have learned that instead of playing shortstop thinking you're Jose Canseco and you're fucking terrible. I don't know what to tell you. Because you're nowhere. I'm convinced a kid can be a millionaire by the time he's 50. Jose Canseco didn't play shortstop just for those listening. That's why I was going to say a B-team. He took steroids and

So did everybody else. If it hadn't been for steroids, there wouldn't be an MLB. Hold on. Baseball is dying. Are you Eastern Illinois people? Are we in Cub country or Cardinal country? We're in Cardinal country. Okay, that's good. I'm in none of it. I don't give a shit about it. The Cubs haven't won shit. That's a perennial loser. Yeah, I mean, they managed to buy one World Series. Yeah, they suck.

And I'm not a big baseball guy. Literally, I have paint in the shop, so sometimes somebody's like, hey, you going to the baseball game? And I just spray a piece of cardboard and I just sit there and watch it dry. Because that's equivalent to watching baseball. If you're not playing baseball, it's

freaking useless. And when you play baseball, it's still useless. It's still useless. If you're not a pitcher or a catcher, you literally can set the dugout and be like, oh, shit, I think something just happened. If you're really fast, you can still get there. Yeah. I don't know. Beer League softball is pretty good. That's totally the real deal. Softball is fun. Until they change the rules to where I can hit the ball and run to any base I want and take the bat with me, I'm not interested. I'm out. I'm out. I'm not interested. I'm out.

It's predictable. I'm not sliding anymore, asshole. Trying to block me. Get out of my way or hurt. It's too predictable. I hit the ball, clear it in the outfield, and he throws it to first and gets me out. Well, fuck that. Maybe I was running to third. I was taking the bat with me. Absolutely. But I don't get to make the rules.

Anyway, this has been a two-hour podcast. Can you guys believe that? See how time flies when you're having fun. Oh, my. Give the people what they want. It is. And I don't think we went too far off the rails. No, it's not too bad. I think we can post this one. I think it was pretty fine. Yeah. You want to wrap it up? Kerr Equipment, Kerr Auction. Yep. They're in everything. Go talk to Matt. Go answer the call. If you're, you know, in need of some comfort, talk to Matt. If you're, you know...

Not a widow. Talk to Alex. Actually, those underlying factors, don't call either one of these dipshits. Call Gina. That's who's running the show. Is that right? Call Gina. We are a minority-owned company. She is the boss lady. We have found the loophole. Absolutely. There's always a loophole. Call Gina. Get straight to the top.

Absolutely. That's all right. Use the system to your advantage. Yeah. Well, they put it out there. Exactly. You didn't make the rules. We just talked about ruining girls' sports, ruining girls' auctions. Yeah, there you go. Have at it. Yeah. So, anyway, Kerr Auction, Kerr Equipment. Yeah. Good one. Thanks for having us. Appreciate it, guys. You've got a website they can go to. Yeah, so Kerr EQ goes to the machinery resale page, and Kerr Auction goes to our auctions. We got...

Adrian, Minnesota, July 14th. Then we go to our hometown in Mount Sterling. We've got two farm retirements. We've got an online-only tool sale. Nick will be having to come to Western Illinois to buy all of these snap-on promotions. That's why it's online only. I'll make you bring it. I'll get the spinners in that platform. We'll meet up. We'll meet up in Springfield. Still waiting on that. Then we go from there to North Dakota.

and sell the export specialized equipment. Nice. From there, we come right over here to you guys' home area, and we're doing an inventory reduction sale for Coons Equipment in Arthur. So we'll sell about 18 Massey Combines. Nick can finally get a rotor that's got, you know, RAS bars in line. I think I'm good, but...

But you should. This is all online only, online in person both. So the only one that is online only is the tool sale. Everything else is online and in person. Both. Okay. So Matt will be chanting away, doing his thing, and then you can bid for free with no internet bidding, premium or penalty. We call it a penalty. You know, premium is what you get at State Fair with a blue ribbon. Yeah. And...

You can bid on our website. You can download the app on your phone. Makes it really easy. You can also go to Equipment Facts. We'll run every one of them through Tractor House. There's one you missed, an important one. On July 28th, we have Scott Markets' retirement. Well, I said two retirements in our home.

But it's the day before. Okay, so I do got to throw this out. There's one important one that you guys missed. So I'm good friends with Trent Schmidt, an auctioneer, and he actually pays me $10,000 every time I mention Schmidt. Once we kill the mic here, we have about $40,000. I think so. It seems like that. But we'll take care of that. We'll put that on the next tab. Yeah, you guys go ahead and just keep it. I'm good for it. Then we finish in Pennsylvania before we go to harvest. Gotcha. And...

Yeah, the in-between that one in Mount Sterling, Illinois, you can invite anybody you want, but we're going to have a meeting the night before that free meal. Tyne Morgan is going to speak about things to, I don't remember her title, things to watch for in 2025. Bridget Riedel is coming from North Dakota, and she will talk about

Women in ag, you know, cause there actually are still women versus men and she'll probably touch a little bit on mental health. You know, if your family used to abused you to your 50 years old and you're thinking about doing something dumb, she's worked a lot in that space to try to help people. And yeah,

We also are filming a machine repeat TV show that same two-day stretch. So that's a busy two days. It'd be worth traveling to western Illinois. That'd be a good time to dump those 6030s. Yeah. If Nick and I could get there, we'd sure be there. Yeah, we'd sure be there. Roads don't lead to Albuquerque, bud. I don't have a plane or a helicopter, and you can't drive there. But we'll look into it. Yeah.

So are you Missouri guys? Just head east. You can get there. Hop on the ferry, cross the river, you'll be there. Or you can take the train out of Chicago, it sounds like. Yeah, sounds like, yeah. Get you close. Yep. Anyway, guys, thank you very much. I'm glad you guys came down. It's been a good time. I think people like episodes where it's just willy-nilly and talk about everything. We don't really plan on it.

There's two posts, an air cleaner and a muffler in the middle. I can't even see you right now.

If you were going to the front of a tractor, that's where you're getting your sound guard, in the front. Not the side, you're getting in the front. And folks, thanks for tuning in. Roller stay down the hood, you're right in the front. And now it's just like us talking on the phone. Yeah, pretty much. That's where we're at. There it is. Have a great day, folks. We'll see you guys next time. Thank you.