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Episode 46: AGI Funny Business (Model), with Brian Merchant, December 2 2024

2024/12/18
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Brian Merchant
一位长期从事科技写作和著书的美国技术记者和书作者。
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Emily M. Bender
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Emily M. Bender 和 Alex Hanna:OpenAI 的早期发展依赖于对通用人工智能(AGI)的夸大宣传,并期望其未来能解决盈利问题。他们认为,媒体对 OpenAI 的早期报道缺乏批判性,过分关注创始人的个人魅力和宏大愿景,而忽略了其商业模式的空洞性。他们还指出,Altman 将 OpenAI 描述为一个由全世界共同拥有的非营利性组织,但这与 OpenAI 的实际运作模式相悖。他们批评 Altman 对 AI 超越人类智能的预测带有主观性和不确定性,以及他对“坏的 AI”的定义模糊不清,缺乏具体的案例和论证。他们还指出 Altman 对数据重要性的论述过于简化,缺乏对数据质量和应用方式的深入考量,并批评其将人类学习与机器学习进行类比,这种类比过于简单化,忽略了人类学习的复杂性和多样性。最后,他们批评媒体对 OpenAI 的乐观评价忽视了其潜在的风险和负面影响,以及对科技进步的描述过于乐观,将科技进步与社会进步混淆,并曲解了马丁·路德·金的名言。 Brian Merchant:他认为 2015 年对 OpenAI 的报道缺乏批判性,过分关注创始人的个人魅力和宏大愿景,而忽略了其商业模式的空洞性。他指出,Elon Musk 与 Sam Altman 的合作是 Altman 提升自身影响力的一种策略,利用 Musk 的名气来吸引媒体关注。他还指出,OpenAI 的成立可以被解读为 Elon Musk 对 Google 的一种对抗策略,源于其个人和商业上的竞争关系。他认为,媒体报道将 AI 的成功归功于少数精英人才,忽略了大量幕后劳动者的贡献。他指出,OpenAI 的‘开源’策略在当时获得了媒体的广泛认可,但实际上并非真正意义上的开源。最后,他指出早期报道中,科技公司公开表达了利用用户数据来实现盈利目标的意图。 Brian Merchant:他认为早期媒体报道主要关注 Elon Musk 的参与,将 OpenAI 的成立视为其个人行为的延伸,而非对其商业模式的深入探讨。他指出,2015 年的报道将 OpenAI 的成立描绘成对抗 Google 等大型科技公司的一种方式,这种说法缺乏事实依据,带有明显的宣传色彩。他认为,媒体对神经网络的描述过于简化,将神经网络与人脑神经元网络进行类比,这种类比缺乏科学依据。他还指出,媒体对 AI 能力的描述过于夸大,将 AI 的功能与人类认知能力混淆。他认为,Musk 对数据的理解过于简单化,认为数据量的大小决定了 AI 的成功,忽略了数据质量和应用方式的重要性。最后,他指出媒体对 OpenAI 的说法缺乏质疑,未深入探讨其商业模式和潜在风险。

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What was OpenAI's initial business model according to Brian Merchant?

OpenAI's initial business model was built on the promise of developing Artificial General Intelligence (AGI), with the idea that AGI would eventually figure out how to generate revenue for the company. This was a hand-wavy, speculative approach to attract investment without a clear path to profitability.

Why did Elon Musk and Sam Altman form OpenAI in 2015?

Elon Musk and Sam Altman formed OpenAI as a nonprofit venture to conduct open-source research into artificial intelligence, with the stated goal of ensuring that AI development would benefit humanity and prevent the risks of a single, centralized AI becoming too powerful. However, it was also seen as a strategic hedge against Google, which Musk viewed as a dominant player in AI.

How did the tech press cover OpenAI's founding in 2015?

The tech press in 2015 covered OpenAI's founding with a largely uncritical and breathless tone, often portraying it as a heroic effort to save humanity from the dangers of AI. Articles focused on the involvement of high-profile figures like Elon Musk and Sam Altman, with little skepticism about the feasibility or motives behind the project.

What role did Sam Altman play in OpenAI's early narrative?

Sam Altman played a key role in shaping OpenAI's early narrative by positioning it as a nonprofit venture that would develop AI for the benefit of humanity. He emphasized the open-source nature of the project and the idea that AI should be freely owned by the world, which helped attract talent and investment despite the lack of a clear business model.

What was Elon Musk's perspective on OpenAI's nonprofit structure?

Elon Musk viewed OpenAI's nonprofit structure as a way to avoid the profit incentive that could lead to harmful AI development. He believed that a nonprofit focused on safety and open research would mitigate the risks of AI becoming a dystopian force, though this vision did not align with OpenAI's later pivot to a for-profit model.

How did OpenAI's narrative evolve over time?

OpenAI's narrative evolved from a nonprofit focused on open-source AI research for the benefit of humanity to a for-profit company seeking to monetize its technology. The initial promise of AGI figuring out the business model gave way to more concrete revenue strategies, such as advertising and enterprise partnerships, while still leveraging the hype around AGI.

What was the significance of OpenAI's early focus on open-source AI?

OpenAI's early focus on open-source AI was significant because it positioned the organization as a counterbalance to tech giants like Google, which were seen as monopolizing AI research. The open-source approach was intended to democratize AI development and ensure that the benefits of AI were widely shared, though this commitment waned over time.

How did OpenAI's founders view the role of data in AI development?

OpenAI's founders viewed data as a critical component of AI development, emphasizing the importance of large datasets for training AI models. They discussed leveraging data from sources like Tesla's self-driving cars and Reddit, reflecting a belief that more data would lead to more powerful and intelligent AI systems.

What was the reaction to OpenAI's claim that AGI would figure out its own business model?

The reaction to OpenAI's claim that AGI would figure out its own business model was mixed. While some investors and tech enthusiasts embraced the idea, others saw it as a speculative and hand-wavy approach to justifying the lack of a clear revenue strategy. Over time, OpenAI shifted to more traditional business models, such as advertising and enterprise solutions.

What was the broader context of OpenAI's founding in 2015?

OpenAI was founded in 2015 during a period of low interest rates and abundant venture capital, which allowed startups to raise funds without immediate profitability. The organization emerged as a response to the dominance of tech giants like Google in AI research, with a narrative focused on open-source development and the prevention of AI-related risks.

Shownotes Transcript

Once upon a time, artificial general intelligence was the only business plan OpenAI seemed to have. Tech journalist Brian Merchant joins Emily and Alex for a time warp to the beginning of the current wave of AI hype, nearly a decade ago. And it sure seemed like Elon Musk, Sam Altman, and company were luring investor dollars to their newly-formed venture solely on the hand-wavy promise that someday, LLMs themselves would figure out how to turn a profit.

Brian Merchant) is an author, journalist in residence at the AI Now Institute, and co-host of the tech news podcast System Crash).

References:

Elon Musk and partners form nonprofit to stop AI from ruining the world)

How Elon Musk and Y Combinator Plan to Stop Computers From Taking Over)

Elon Musk's Billion-Dollar AI Plan Is About Far More Than Saving the World)

Brian’s recent report on the business model of AGI, for the AI Now Institute: AI Generated Business: The rise of AGI and the rush to find a working revenue model)

Previously on MAIHT3K: Episode 21: The True Meaning of 'Open Source' (feat. Sarah West and Andreas Liesenfeld))

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OpenAI explores advertising as it steps up revenue drive)

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A company pitched Emily her own 'verified avatar')

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