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Wall Street Roundup: AI, IPOs, and standout earnings

2025/6/13
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Brian Stewart: 本周甲骨文的财报是市场关注的焦点。甲骨文的云服务部门收入增长强劲,这主要得益于公司在人工智能领域的创新。云服务部门的增长率达到了27%,并且预计在2026财年将加速至40%。基础设施部门的增长也达到了50%,并有望超过70%。然而,为了实施人工智能战略,甲骨文需要增加资本支出,这可能会对盈利能力产生影响。虽然收入增长迅速,但支出的增加可能会影响利润。总的来说,甲骨文在人工智能领域的投入和发展战略是其未来增长的关键,但同时也需要关注成本控制和盈利能力。

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Oracle's outstanding Q1 earnings, showing significant growth in cloud services and infrastructure, fueled a 14% stock surge. However, concerns remain about profitability due to increased CapEx for AI implementation. Nebius, another AI-focused company, also saw massive growth, but its high valuation raises concerns.
  • Oracle's stock is up 14%, driven by strong Q1 earnings and guidance.
  • Oracle's cloud services revenue grew by 27%, with infrastructure sector growth at around 50%.
  • Nebius's stock is up 150% since April, with Q1 revenue growth of 385%, but high valuation and dilution risk are concerns.

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Brian Stewart, our Director of News at Seeking Alpha. Welcome back to Wall Street Roundup. Thanks. Great to be here. Always good to talk to you at the near the end of the week, getting ready for a new week. A company that seems to be at the top of the list today is Oracle, who just reported earnings

What did we see out of Oracle? What does that mean for the tech sector? What are your thoughts? Yeah, going to this week, Oracle was one of the few companies that was a highlight of the earnings schedule. It's pretty sparse this week. So Oracle stands out just because there's not a lot else going on. But the results themselves are being taken by the market very strongly. Stock is up 14%. Last time I checked,

recording this on Thursday. Feed Expectation issued strong guidance. Revenue growth in its cloud services sector, which is the one most affected by the AI innovations that the company's putting in place, up 27%.

In the latest quarter, this is an acceleration from the previous quarter. It's actually been growing. The growth rate has been accelerating the last several quarters and the company in its guidance predicted 40% growth over fiscal 2026. So even

The accelerated growth that we've been seeing lately, they see accelerating even further. If you drill down to the infrastructure sector, it showed growth of about 50%, and it sees that growth rising as well in the earnings call after 2020.

The report company management's targeted growth rate above 70% for that part of the company. So innovations that the company is making are already affecting the top line. One concern coming out of it, the extent to which the increased CapEx spending that the company has to make to implement this AI strategy, how much is that going to cut into profitability? So while the top line is obviously accelerating growth,

growth very quickly, there's worries that it might not follow the bottom line because they also have to increase spending. In terms of the AI conversation, another stock that has been talked about this week that I think belongs as part of this conversation is Nebius. And we had James Ford talking about how he prefers this stock over CoreWeave, which has had

a lot of attention as a recent IPO and a lot of increased interest in that name. Talk to us about why Nebius is being talked about right now, what they have going on, and how AI investors work

may be thinking about this stock, this company, and that part of the sector. Nebius has been attracting a very fervent investor base recently. Just to give a little bit of background, the stock is up around 150% since the first half of April. It's up 35% so far in June.

Its latest earnings report showed Q1 revenue growth of 385%. So in a world of AI startups, the company's not quite a startup. It's got kind of an interesting history. But in terms of how we're talking about it, we can think about it as an AI startup because it basically refreshed its business plan a couple of years ago.

The stock is showing results already. Like I said, revenue growth approaching 400%. Concerns about it, high valuation has already rallied so much. It's already

gotten so much attention that there's fear that it might have overshot its near-term prospects. Meanwhile, there's also a risk of dilution. The company recently raised funds. That process, if it keeps up, I mean, it certainly makes sense for management to take advantage of its higher stock price to build up its cash reserves.

for further investment. And that process might end up diluting current investors. So there's that concern overhanging the stock too. So whether or not the stock can push higher is really going to be a factor of what it says as its earnings reports come out in the coming quarters. And speaking of huge leaps in momentum,

We have another recent IPO, another in context of the CoreWeave conversation, but another IPO in Circle Internet Group. What are you seeing out of them? Does that mean anything for the IPO market? Is that specific to what part of the sector they're playing in, in the IT sector? What are your thoughts there? What are you seeing out of them?

Came public last week. It was up 160% in that first day. And it's continued to move higher over the past week. It's up four out of five days going into yesterday's close. Priced its IPO at $31 per share last week. It closed Wednesday at 117.20. So it's up about 278%.

from its IPO price. I think it's an interesting crypto play. So Circle is a stablecoin company. I think it's interesting in the sense that oftentimes we think about Bitcoin especially, but crypto in general as being an alternative to the current financial structures, even to the point of replacing fiat currencies in some distant future. But Circle really is the bridge between the two worlds. It

exists within. It points to a future where fiat currencies and crypto work side by side. So I think that the interest in that shows that there's investor appetite for

I don't know how to frame it, the less aggressive crypto bulls, the ones who feel that it'll literally replace how we do business now. I also think it's interesting, Circle's business is tied to treasuries. The way that they support their stablecoin is through holding short-term treasuries. So treasury yields will be an impact on the company's business. So for investors, I think it's both a crypto play, but it's also kind of a bet on

some of the more vanilla financial instruments that we have in the market. Lululemon reported earnings recently. What did you see out of them? Does that further any insight we have into the tariff conversations? Is it still too early to tell? What did you see out of them?

I think Lululemon underlines the complications that remain on the tariff landscape. So the stock was down 20% last Friday on its earnings. It's also continued to drift lower. If it finishes lower today, it was down when I checked earlier today, that'll be six sessions in a row that it fell. This came as the company reported soft Q1 comparable results. The top and bottom line for the latest quarter were in line with expectations, but the

The comparable sales were soft. Also, it cut its profit forecast. It cited tariff uncertainty. Also, analysts noted the rise in competition for it. And it puts Lululemon in a strange position. One way that they can fight that increased competition is by cutting prices. But with the tariffs...

that becomes difficult. In fact, the company might be tempted to raise prices to make up for the higher tariffs. On the earnings call, the CEO said that they're going to look at price increases item by item, so taking it almost to the individual apparel item that they're selling.

And they're looking to increase prices on a small portion of its products. And those are meant to be modest in nature. So you can see the company struggling to battle the higher costs that it's facing at the same time where it's facing competitive landscape problems.

with consumers having less funds available to spend. And we saw DocuSign's earnings also recently. Anything to mention there? DocuSign's another company, and we'll probably talk about Tesla, but we've talked about Tesla in the past as a company that has the now business and the future business. And

And DocuSign is another company in that position. So they were down about 19% last Friday on earnings. That's after they lowered their full year billings guidance. Some analysts defended the company saying that this was really a renewal timing issue, something that management, one called it an unforced error on.

management, but fundamentally a near-term issue that the company will work out over time. Bulls look to the company's intelligent agreement management product, which is an AI-driven way for businesses to manage their contracts. So it's a company where if you're a bull on it and you look at this as a buying opportunity, its recent decline, you're looking longer term as it

rolls out these AI-driven products that make business more efficient. However, if you're bearish on the company, you'd say it already got its COVID pop. It's already kind of built in that customer base and management clearly is having a little trouble just sort of the blocking and tackling.

in the near term. So that might sap some confidence in management going forward. Yeah, let's get into Tesla. More back and forth, more changing of the current moment's reality. What did we see from Musk? What are your thoughts there? What did we see out of Tesla? How have you seen the market react to that? What's your sense there?

So after the feud between Musk and Trump started to get pretty heated last week, we saw Tesla stock drop 14% last Thursday as that exchange heated up. Recently, Musk has signaled a tactical retreat. He hasn't taken back everything he said. For instance, the critique he had of the spending bill that's making its way through Congress.

He hasn't backed off of that, but he did say that he went too far with some of the other comments. At one point, Musk had suggested impeachment for Trump. He's deleted that that tweet now. He was saying that he wanted to found a third party, which he seems to have backed off on that somewhat, too.

All of Musk's businesses from Tesla, but also SpaceX, Starlink are heavily intertwined with government policy. That starts with actual contracts with government entities that those companies have, but it also points to just the regulatory environment. So having an ongoing dispute with a sitting president who is certainly willing to use government powers to

to fight a beef with individuals. Just look at how Trump is handling the dispute with Harvard. I think Musk probably had people in his life warning him of potential problems ahead and convinced him to back down. This comes ahead of a robo taxi launch in Austin on June 22nd. Webwish's Dan Ives

believes that the vast majority of the valuation upside for Tesla is in the autonomous future, with that being a situation that requires a lot of communication with regulators. Obviously, it's a business that the government could shut down at any moment if they chose to.

I think Musk probably made the business decision that it was better to be at least at peace with Trump if not in the administration anymore. Anything else to point out in terms of upcoming earnings?

or previous earnings that we've seen recently that matter to you or to the market. What else from the earnings picture? Looking ahead, there's not much next week. It's kind of a strange week. The Juneteenth holiday is on Thursday. So markets are closed that day. It also, I think it's convinced a lot of companies to hold off on reporting earnings during a slow week. So you're basically getting a three-day week followed by a one-day week.

during for trading next week. So just in terms of themes, home building is going to be something to look for. Housing starts are coming out next Wednesday, but also Lanier, one of the big players in the home building market is coming out Monday. So we might get some information there. Meanwhile,

We see Kroger coming out later next week, CarMax. So these are stocks where we could get some insight into the health of the consumer.

And anything from the macro point of view, anything else you would add to that part of the conversation? Yeah, just that the big news next week is going to come from the Fed. The Fed decision is on Wednesday. Currently, almost 100% chance, 99.7% chance baked in that there's going to be no change in interest rates. So should be a pretty boring announcement as it goes. Obviously, what's going to be interesting is the way the Fed is signaling for the future. Currently, we're

Also, broadly expected to be no change in July. There's another Fed meeting in July. 79.2% chance baked in as we're speaking now. That changes as we get to September. At that point, there's about a 75% chance that there will be some rate change at that point. Only a 25% chance that things will still be the same in September. So the basic consensus is that we're going to get a rate cut in September and maybe a couple more for the rest of the year.

One note that's interesting is there are fractional chances of higher rates in the next few meetings. All of them, for each meeting, it's below 1%. But it's the first time that's kind of come on the radar that there's a slight chance. It dissipates as things move forward. Like if you look towards the end of the year, there's no chance currently.

baked into trading that there'd be higher rates. But it's just sort of an interesting note that that's starting to be a blip on the radar.