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DeepSeek vs. Open AI - The State of AI w/ Emad Mostaque & Salim Ismail | EP #146

2025/1/29
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Peter: 我认为DeepSeek的出现是预料之中的,它在工程方面取得了显著的突破,其模型与GPT-4相匹敌,并且成本更低。美中AI竞争是赢家通吃的游戏,也是我们面临的最大危机,因为所有AI领导者都认为AGI将在三到五年内到来。 Imad: DeepSeek继承了Stability AI的理念,发布了令人惊叹的开源模型,在代码排名中名列前茅。DeepSeek的成功在于其基础模型和推理模型R1,后者能够展示其推理过程,提升了用户体验和使用率。DeepSeek模型的开源性以及其推理过程的可视化,使得其迅速流行,并挑战了人们对AI的既有认知。DeepSeek的成功是多种因素共同作用的结果,包括其性能、开源性和推理过程的可视化。DeepSeek模型的训练成本非常低廉,这令人震惊,这与他们使用的GPU数量和训练方法有关。DeepSeek的创新主要体现在工程方面,这与中国的工程创新能力相符。 Salim: DeepSeek选择在就职典礼当天发布新模型,是对新政府的挑战。DeepSeek模型的低成本令人震惊,但考虑到AI模型能力的指数级增长,这并不意外。尽管DeepSeek的出现对英伟达等公司造成了冲击,但AI市场的整体需求仍然强劲。未来AI将呈现多样化发展趋势,包括超级专家AGI、个人AI、开源模型和开放数据AI等。DeepSeek模型的开源性和本地运行能力降低了数据安全风险,但仍存在地理套利优势。DeepSeek模型是否会像TikTok一样引发数据安全担忧?

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In this episode, Emad, Salim, and Peter discuss the recent DeepSeek news, the China vs. USA AI race, and what Emad has been working on. 

Recorded on Jan 29th, 2024

Views are my own thoughts; not Financial, Medical, or Legal Advice.

Emad is the founder of Intelligent Internet and the former CEO and Co-Founder of Stability AI, a company funding the development of open-source music- and image-generating systems such as Dance Diffusion, Stable Diffusion, and Stable Video 3D. 

Salim Ismail is a serial entrepreneur and technology strategist well known for his expertise in Exponential organizations. He is the Founding Executive Director of Singularity University and the founder and chairman of ExO Works and OpenExO. 

Emad on X:https://x.com/EMostaque

Learn more about Intelligent Internet: https://ii.inc/

Read Emad’s Paper: https://x.com/ii_posts/status/1877018732733612367

Join Salim's ExO Community: https://openexo.com)

Salim’s X: https://twitter.com/salimismail


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