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The Art of Retirement — Christine Benz (EP.257)

2025/2/27
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Christine Benz
知名投资分析师和记者,专注于个人财务和投资策略。
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Jim O'Shaughnessy
美国著名投资者和量化股票分析先驱,创立了奥沙恩斯资产管理公司,并著有多本投资经典著作。
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Christine Benz: 我认为退休不仅仅是财务规划,它还应该包括生活质量和生活方式的考量。许多人只关注财务方面,而忽略了退休后的生活质量。我的新书《如何退休:20个快乐、成功和富足退休的经验》不仅关注财务规划,例如安全提款率和合理的投资组合构建,还探讨了退休后的身份、目标和人际关系等重要方面。在退休前,我们应该认真思考这些问题,并与家人进行沟通,确保退休后的生活能够平衡财务和生活方式的需求。 随着年龄增长,我越来越重视生活方式的因素。在退休规划中,我们应该尽早开始,并与孩子进行沟通,帮助他们理解未来的财务和生活安排。家庭应尽早讨论财务问题,尤其是父母与子女之间的退休规划,避免未来的财务混乱。父母与子女之间在遗产规划上可能存在分歧,父母希望留下遗产,而子女更希望父母享受退休生活。因此,我们需要坦诚沟通,了解彼此的需求和期望。 我个人非常支持生前赠与的理念,认为在子女年轻时给予财务支持比遗产更有意义。许多人在退休后难以合理支出,过于关注遗产规划而忽视了自身的生活需求。因此,我们应该学会在享受生活的同时,合理规划财务,避免过度关注遗产而忽略了自身的需求。 Jim O'Shaughnessy: 我同意Christine Benz的观点,退休规划应该尽早开始,并与孩子进行沟通。许多人对退休规划采取一种‘眼不见心不烦’的态度,直到临近退休才开始考虑。在与客户沟通的过程中,我发现许多人并没有与孩子讨论退休计划,这让我感到惊讶。因此,我建议客户与孩子一起讨论退休计划,帮助他们了解未来的财务和生活安排,并尽早做好准备。 此外,我还注意到,许多人对退休后的健康状况考虑不足。Schopenhauer说过:‘健康不是一切,但没有健康,一切皆为零。’在退休规划中,我们应该重视健康,并采取积极措施来维护健康。保持社交圈的活跃对健康和幸福至关重要,建议多样化社交网络。退休后应逐步过渡,而不是突然停止工作,逐步减少工作负担有助于更好地适应退休生活。 在退休投资组合方面,我建议采用‘桶策略’,将资产分为现金、中期债券和全球多元化股票组合,以应对不同的市场环境。退休规划中应简化投资组合,避免过度复杂化,建议使用低成本指数基金或ETF。退休后应定期重新评估投资组合,确保资产配置与退休目标一致。退休规划中应重视时间管理,确保将时间花在有意义的事情上。

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Christine Benz discusses the multifaceted approach to retirement, emphasizing that it isn't just about financial stability but also lifestyle considerations, relationships, and identity beyond work.
  • Retirement planning should balance financial stability with quality of life and lifestyle considerations.
  • Many people underestimate the importance of lifestyle planning in retirement.
  • It's crucial to think about sources of purpose, identity, and relationships post-retirement.

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Christine Benz is the Director of Personal Finance and Retirement Planning at Morningstar, where she has spent over three decades helping investors navigate the complexities of financial planning. She is also the author of "How to Retire: 20 Lessons for a Happy, Successful, and Wealthy Retirement" and serves as the president of the John C. Bogle Center for Financial Literacy.

Before focusing on retirement planning, Christine worked as a fund analyst, bringing a unique perspective that combines deep investment knowledge with practical financial wisdom.

Christine joins the show to discuss why retirement isn't just about hitting your "magic number," how to overcome the psychological barriers to retirement spending, why keeping your inner circle vibrant is crucial for long-term happiness, the surprising power of lifetime giving, and MUCH more.

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Show Notes:

  • Retirement Focus: Finances or Lifestyle?
  • Bring Your Kids In The Loop
  • Embrace the Challenges of Social Health
  • A Day in The Life of a Retiree
  • Defaulting People Into Saving
  • Genesis of the FIRE Movement
  • Horsemen of The Investment Apocalypse
  • The Delicate Balance of Investment Buckets
  • Dodging A Single Point of Failure
  • How to Sniff Out Fishy Financial Advice
  • The Saver vs the Investor Personality Type
  • Keeping Up With Mr. Market
  • Annuities: The Low-Risk Underdog
  • Christine as World Emperor

Books / Authors Mentioned:

  • How to Retire: 20 Lessons for a Happy, Successful, and Wealthy Retirement; by Christine Benz
  • The works of Jonathan Franzen