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How water scarcity will threaten global GDP

2025/3/20
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Akshat Rati: 我认为我们都太容易忽略水资源对地球未来生命以及全球经济的重要性。水资源短缺不仅关系到世界各地人们的饮水和卫生条件,也关系到全球经济的健康发展。气候变化虽然是由大气中温室气体的累积造成的,但其影响主要通过水体现出来——暴雨洪涝和持续干旱。从农业到电子商务,水资源获取对众多产业至关重要,这些产业未来可能会因为气候变化导致的水资源短缺而承受压力。到2030年,淡水需求量预计将超过供应量40%,这是一个挑战,也是一个机遇。 Akshat Rati: 在环境、社会和治理(ESG)指标中,气候变化和二氧化碳排放受到高度关注,而水资源问题正日益受到重视。如果水资源如此重要,我们知道二氧化碳排放也很重要,那么您是如何看待投资者在这种情况下思考ESG问题,并开始做出必要的投资决策,但也许是以一种不向全世界宣传的方式? Melanie Rua: 水资源短缺不再是遥远的威胁,而是公司在各个行业和全球范围内已经面临的现实的经济和运营风险。根据世界资源研究所的数据,到2030年,全球GDP中高达70万亿美元的价值将面临水资源压力的风险。除了过度使用之外,气候变化也是一个驱动因素。气候变得更热更干燥,导致水需求增加,同时供应减少,加剧了这种不平衡。我们看到这种风险正在实时显现,而且以不同的方式显现。例如,墨西哥的星座品牌(Constellation Brands)由于水资源问题放弃了一个几乎完工的啤酒厂项目,损失了6.6亿美元。台湾的半导体制造商也面临着水资源短缺的反复问题,这已经对他们的收入造成了影响。这些例子都表明,水资源风险并非理论上的,它已经影响到公司的利润,以及他们运营的能力。投资者需要了解哪些行业和企业面临的风险最大,企业也必须适应,否则将面临财务后果。 Melanie Rua: 水资源风险在不同行业以不同的方式显现,有些是显而易见的,例如农业、服装和能源行业;有些则不那么明显,例如半导体制造业。制造芯片需要大量的水,自2021年以来,40%的半导体工厂建在水资源紧张地区。此外,数据中心会产生大量热量,需要冷却,而水冷通常是最有效的冷却方式。AI驱动的数据中心耗水量巨大,仅2023年在弗吉尼亚州就使用了近20亿加仑的水,比2019年增加了64%。微软和亚马逊网络服务等公司已经设定了2030年的水资源正目标,这意味着他们补充的水比使用的水更多。但是,该行业的用水规模巨大,水资源短缺已经重塑了产业,迫使公司重新思考采购、生产和扩张计划。 Melanie Rua: 投资者应该像考虑二氧化碳排放一样考虑水资源短缺风险,评估投资组合中对水资源密集型行业的敞口。银行和投资者也通过贷款和融资决策面临水资源风险敞口,但这种风险尚未被广泛披露。一些大型银行在水资源密集型行业中的水资源消耗和风险敞口很高,但水资源风险尚未像二氧化碳排放那样被考虑在内。银行向耗水或排放二氧化碳的公司贷款,这些消耗或排放会被计入贷款方的账目,从而使贷款方面临风险。尽管投资者尚未系统地将水资源风险纳入定价,但随着财务影响的增长,将越来越难以忽视。关注水资源密集型行业至关重要,例如农业、服装业等。巴西的严重干旱导致阿拉比卡咖啡产量下降,导致期货价格飙升,这突显了农业面临的水资源风险。到2040年,世界上一半的棉花作物将面临干旱,这将对依赖棉花的公司(如耐克)造成影响。半导体产业也面临着水资源风险,水资源短缺可能会减缓或阻止其发展。Archer Daniels Midland的碳封存设施泄漏以及壳牌公司因污染水井而面临的诉讼,都表明公司不仅容易受到水资源短缺的影响,还容易受到与水相关的责任的影响。应对水资源短缺没有单一的解决方案,需要多种方法,包括海水淡化、节水技术和可持续材料。一些公司正在开发和应用节水技术,如海水淡化技术和节能冷却技术。一些公司正在开发替代纤维,如实验室培育的棉花,以减少用水量。不同的节水技术各有优缺点,投资者需要权衡成本效益。虽然有各种解决方案,但考虑到水资源短缺的紧迫性,投资者需要考虑其他选择。投资者可以使用数据来评估水资源短缺风险,并根据不同情景(悲观、乐观或现状)进行分析。分析表明,一些公司的电力厂和矿山在2030年将面临高或极高的水资源压力。依赖水资源进行冷却、生产或开采的行业面临着水资源压力的风险。虽然与自然相关的和水资源数据可能还处于早期阶段,但已经有足够的数据来支持投资决策。更多的数据披露将更有益于投资决策,但目前的数据已经足够支持投资决策。水资源短缺正在加剧,财务风险已经显现,企业被迫采取行动。莱茵河水位创历史新低以及巴西干旱导致食品价格上涨等事件都表明水资源风险正在影响市场。财务成本正在推动企业采取行动,例如Constellation、巴斯夫和英特尔等公司都因水资源问题遭受了损失。3M公司因全氟和多氟烷基物质(PFAS)污染而支付了100亿美元的和解金,这表明与水相关的风险正在转化为实际损失。可以使用数据来识别公司层面的资产风险敞口,并识别正在采取行动以适应这些风险的公司。尽管对ESG投资的抵制导致对气候相关披露的审查增加,但水资源问题是公司和投资者无法忽视的财务问题。水资源短缺造成的运营停工、成本上升和资产搁浅等问题,是公司和投资者必须应对的经济问题,而不仅仅是意识形态问题。政策不确定性是水资源风险管理中的一个因素,例如美国环保署关于全氟和多氟烷基物质(PFAS)的饮用水新规。政策变化可能会改变企业和地方政府在水资源风险管理中的财务责任。

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The increasing water scarcity is not just a distant threat; it poses a significant risk to the global economy. By 2030, freshwater demand is projected to surpass supply by 40%, jeopardizing up to \$70 trillion of global GDP. This is already impacting various industries, from alcoholic beverage producers abandoning plants to semiconductor manufacturers facing revenue losses due to water shortages.
  • By 2030, freshwater demand is expected to outpace supply by 40%
  • Up to $70 trillion of global GDP is at risk due to water stress
  • Constellation Brands abandoned a brewery due to water concerns, taking a $660 million write-down
  • TSMC estimates over half a billion dollars in revenue is at risk due to drought

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Welcome to Xero. I am Akshat Rati. This week, water scarcity. We perhaps take for granted how critical access to water is for the future of life on this planet.

Not just for people around the world to quench their thirst and have access to good sanitation, but also for the global economy. Climate change is caused by the accumulation of greenhouse gases in the atmosphere, but mostly felt by humans through the force of water. Too much in storms and floods, too little in droughts. From agriculture to e-commerce, water access is central to so many industries.

And those industries are likely to feel pressure as climate change drives water scarcity in the years to come.

By 2030, freshwater demand is expected to outpace supply by 40%. It's a challenge, but also an opportunity. That's what Bloomberg intelligence researcher Melanie Rua says. She's co-authored a new report on water scarcity, and some of the examples she's shared on just how much financial impact companies are already seeing as a result of water scarcity really surprised me.

She told me why investors now have enough data to start to include water risks as they make investment decisions. Melanie, welcome to the show. Thanks so much for having me. It's a pleasure to be here. Now, water scarcity is not a new issue, but it is certainly becoming a more alarming issue around the world. And your job is to dig into areas where investors need more information to make decisions.

What happened last year that made you decide to focus on the issue of water scarcity? Yeah, absolutely. Great question. You know, like you alluded to, water scarcity is no longer a distant threat. It's a present day financial and economic

operational risk that companies across sectors and globally are already facing. You pointed to some scary stats of how demand for fresh water is expected to outpace supply by 40% by 2030. That's only five years from now.

And up to $70 trillion of global GDP is at risk due to water stress, you know, according to the World Resources Institute. So in addition to overuse, to your point, climate change is also a driver here. We have hotter, drier climate driving more water demand and at the same time supply shrinks. This is really contributing to that imbalance.

So we're seeing this risk manifest in real time, but I want to also stress it's also in different ways. So in Mexico, Constellation Brands, an alcoholic beverage producer, abandoned a nearly completed brewery, taking a $660 million write-down because of water concerns. The company had to build a new plant 600 miles away, which adds logistics costs and supply chain complexities.

But there's also, you know, things happening for semiconductors. Like look at semiconductor makers in Taiwan where water shortages have become a recurring issue. Yeah. You know, have been trucking in water. And TSMC, Taiwan Semiconductor Manufacturing Company-

estimates that over half a billion dollars in revenue is at risk due to drought. So these examples really highlight that water risk isn't theoretical. It's already affecting companies, their bottom lines, and really their ability to operate. So investors need to understand which industries and businesses are most exposed to these challenges. And in the same way, businesses must adapt or face financial consequences. Right.

So you talked about food and beverage, you talked about semiconductor, things you wouldn't usually. I mean, food and beverage, yes, of course there's water involved, but semiconductors, people typically don't think about the use of water. But there are other industries where water isn't the primary focus, and yet it can bring things to a halt. So I'm thinking power plants, a lot of natural gas power plants, coal power plants, any thermal power plant needs a lot of water. But tell me more about

also about AI. There is a huge amount of water need for AI data centers, right? Yep, exactly that. You know, water risks really shows up in different ways across industries. To your point, yes, there's obvious water intensive industries, agriculture, apparel, power, the less obvious. So I hinted at semiconductors, you know, can talk a little bit about that, how manufacturing chips require 1.4 to 1.6 liters of water per liter of ultra pure water used.

Also, 40% of semiconductor plants announced since 2021 are being built in water-stressed areas, including Arizona, where concerns over water access are already emerging. But to your point, something that's not so obvious is

data centers generate a lot of heat. They need cooling. And water-based cooling is generally the most efficient, but it is water-based. And so AI-driven data centers, they've used almost 2 billion gallons of water in 2023 in Virginia alone. You know, we mentioned this in the report, a 64% increase since 2019. You have companies like Microsoft and AWS, Amazon Web Services, that have set water-positive targets for 2023.

meaning they're replenishing more water than they're using. But the scale of water use in this industry is enormous. And, you know, water scarcity is already reshaping industries and forcing companies to really rethink sourcing, production, and expansion plans.

So in typical decisions that investors are trying to make about which company to invest in and understanding what risks the companies that they have in their portfolio might be facing, climate change and carbon dioxide features quite high in these environmental social governance metrics. Yep.

But on the environment, water is kind of now getting to the point where there's reporting happening. And with your report and others that have come around, water scarcity, it's starting to become an issue that is being highlighted. Yep. Are there...

who are making decisions based on water scarcity, just like there are investors today that make decisions based on CO2 emissions. Yep. So, you know, exactly what you're talking about, you know, for investors, when we're talking about risk, you know, like this really means assessing portfolio exposure to water intensive industries and being able to identify the companies which are most at risk and

And beyond corporate exposure, banks and investors are also exposed through their lending and financing decisions. But to your point, it's not really a risk that's yet widely disclosed. Just to cover a bit, our analysis did look at financed water consumption, finding that

banks like Bank of America, Wells Fargo, some of the largest finance, also some of the highest water consumption and risk exposure in such water intensive industries. And yet water risk hasn't, to your point, been accounted for in the same way as finance CO2 emissions. And so the finance part over here is the fact that if a bank is lending money to a company that then has either consumption of water or

or is producing CO2, those emissions or that water consumption is then considered as financed water or financed emissions on the books of the lender. And thus the lender is being exposed to all this risk that the company that has taken their money is going to be facing. Yep, exactly that. We really just apply similar to the CO2 finance emissions approach.

methodology of, you know, the PCAF methodology doing the same thing for water. And so though for investors, they don't yet systematically price in water risk, as these financial impacts grow, it's really going to become increasingly difficult to ignore, right? The cost of inaction is already evident. You know, investors who don't proactively assess their exposure might find themselves holding companies with significant risk

unrecognized liabilities. Yeah. Now, we are going to talk about solutions and opportunities in this space. But before that, can you spell out some of the worst case scenarios that might happen? Or perhaps there are already case studies that you can point to saying this could have been a cause that would have been avoided had they thought about water scarcity risk?

Yeah, absolutely. I think this really just goes back to the idea of the report of how water risk shows up in different ways. And we really want to highlight the importance of focusing on water intensive industries. So giving you like real examples, looking at agriculture.

A quarter of the world's food crops are grown in high water stress regions. You know, severe drought in Brazil cut Arabica coffee production by 11 million bags, which really caused an 80% spike in future prices. And yes, though coffee prices surged exceptionally high levels due to in part to drought as well as flooding in some cases.

In apparel, half of the world's cotton crop will be exposed to drought by 2040. You know, you have companies like Nike, whose supply chain relies on cotton for 80% of its water footprint. They're investing in recycled fabrics and waterless dyeing techniques. So there are companies also like Levi's pushing cottonized hemp, which uses a quarter of the water needed for cotton. I mentioned semiconductors on the production side, but

but it's the development too, right? Like the 40% of semiconductor plants since 2021 that are being built in water stress areas, you know, water can basically slow or halt growth depending on access of it. So these are also like a few ways in which investors can really think of water risk. And sometimes in ways that are not so obvious for the industry, agriculture, like I mentioned, it was a lot about crops.

But Archer Daniels Midland, their carbon sequestration facility leaked due to compromised monitoring wells. So this raised concerns over long-term water security risks. And Shell, yes, you know, water is needed in extractive industries, but they agreed in California to a $230 million settlement over contaminated wells. So this really shows that companies are not only vulnerable to water scarcity, but also water-related liabilities. ♪

After the break, more of my conversation with Bloomberg Intelligence researcher Melanie Rua. And if you've been enjoying this episode, please take a moment to rate and review the show on Apple Podcasts or Spotify. It helps other listeners find the show.

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Now, in terms of technologies in the climate space, there are a myriad of technologies that are now available to try and start to reduce emissions from different sectors. Right.

What are the technology solutions available to try and deal with water scarcity? Yes. So I do have to say there's not one solution for something like this. The water crisis, it's really fueling demand for, you know, alternative water sources, efficiency technologies, the sustainable materials market.

you know, to give you some more insights on these different solutions on desalination and treatment. You have companies like Veolia who plans to boost revenue from water treatment technologies by 50% by 2030 on cooling tech.

You have Lenovo's Neptune liquid cooled servers, which reduce power consumption by 40%, cutting water needs. And then you have alternative fibers. So Gaily, which H&M invested in, is developing lab-grown cotton, which uses 97% to 99% less water than conventional cotton.

So while, yes, there's multiple solutions, there's also trade-offs, right? Desalination is energy intensive and switching from water cooling to air cooling in data centers, while it may be more efficient and stuff,

this would increase energy demand, can drive expenses, and it doesn't work everywhere. So investors really need to evaluate that cost-benefit equation of these solutions. And companies like Galey that I've written about, which we'll link in the show notes, you know, interesting technology, but adoption of those kinds of technologies at a mass scale takes time, takes people to experiment. So yeah, there are

options available but for water scarcity that is coming so soon or is already here in many cases there have to be other options for investors to think about

Now, again, I'm taking the CO2 lens, which I understand. Investors have models now, quite sophisticated models, where they can estimate if this is the pathway that the world is taking, this is the level of warming that the world is likely to have. These are the companies in our portfolio that become uninvestable, that may have stranded assets on their books. And so we should start to reduce our exposure to these companies.

Is that level of modeling available for water scarcity for investors to be able to start making decisions today? Oh, absolutely. To your point, right, like companies with high exposures need to be on the investors' watch list and there is data available to do that. In the report, we include this. We have asset level analysis that leverages Bloomberg's company asset data and WRI's Aqueduct tool. So we really identified asset exposure to water stress

out to 2030, again, five years from now. And you could do it under three different scenarios, pessimistic, optimistic, or business as usual. We chose to do business as usual and we did it for metals and mining, power generation, and we also did it for steel producers. And just to share insights on that,

we found that Spanish power company Endesa, nearly 70% of its power plants could face high or extremely high water stress in 2030. Similarly, we see...

Fresnillo, where 70% of their metals and mines are also in areas of high or extremely high water stress compared with, you know, just 57% of Barrick's, Barrick Gold's mines. And

And so this really is showing the risk side of how, you know, industry industries that rely on water for their cooling. You know, we're talking about power gen for production or for metals in mine extraction, exposure to water stress. So lack of access to water can really be disruptive and a huge risk to investors who are also exposed to these companies.

And where are there still data gaps and what is being done about it at a regulatory level or at a corporate level or at an investor level? Great question. So in terms of data gaps, I do have to say, while it's probably still early on or nascent in terms of having robust nature related data and water data,

I do have to say there is sufficient data to be able to make investment decisions and really draw out insights. It would be great for more disclosure. You know, going back to our financed water analysis, there were a lot of limitations simply because of the fact that not all banks are disclosing the purpose information.

Right.

Water scarcity is intensifying. The financial risks are already being fell and companies are being forced to act. So I mentioned there's enough data exists for investment decisions. We find that water is deemed financially material for nearly half of Bloomberg's ESG scoring peer groups. This is 47 industries out of 106.

You know, 2024 alone has shown how urgent this is from record low Rhine River levels disrupting supply chains to drought in Brazil driving food inflation. You know, these risks are already shaping markets.

Financial costs are driving action, right? I mentioned Constellation $660 million write-down, but they're not alone. BASF's €250 million loss from Rhine River disruptions is another example, or Intel was one of the companies whose Arizona expansion is facing water constraints again.

And you mentioned policy. Well, 3Ms, $10 billion in PFAS settlements all show how water-related risks are materializing into real losses and how companies are being forced to address these challenges, whether proactively or reactively. And we were able to use a lot of this data to be able to identify a company level, like,

asset level exposure and being able to really identify also those who are taking action, right? Like being able to adapt to such risks. Right. This is the theory that has been for a long time considered important that there are non-financial metrics that have financial impact

on companies. It's not just carbon, it's water, but it's so many other things. And we're going through this period where these non-financial metrics, which are broadly classed under ESG, Environmental Social Governance,

is seeing a political backlash. You're seeing that in the US with the presidency of Donald Trump. But even before Trump came to power, there were all these Republicans going after investors to try and get them to not invest on ESG criteria. And then you're seeing some of the ramifications show up in Europe. We ran a recent episode on Xero looking at how the ESG backlash is causing Europe, which is

a leader in rulemaking on ESG to start to undo some of that to try and please investors, but also try and manage the relations across the Atlantic. So,

If water is so important and we know CO2 is so important, how are you seeing investors think about ESG in this moment and start to actually still take the decisions that are necessary for investments, but perhaps do it in a way where they're not advertising to the world? Yes, great question and very timely to your point. I mean, look, the backlash against ESG investing is

Yes, it's led to increased scrutiny on climate-related disclosures, for example, some sustainability initiatives. But to your point, you know, when it comes to issues like water, especially in this report, we're really talking about a financially material issue that companies and investors cannot afford to ignore. This isn't about ideology. It's about economics, right? Like global GDP is at risk.

And we have real world examples of companies already facing operational shutdowns, rising costs, stranded assets, all due to water stress, water scarcity, drought, and what have you. And the number of incidents, it's not just increasing, but intensifying, right? Meaning companies and investors will have to deal with these risks, whether or not ESG is politically popular, if you will. Yes, at the same time, policy uncertainty exists.

is a risk. You know, you mentioned in Europe, some of the undoing of some rules. Well, you know, here in the US, particularly under the Trump administration, which has signaled the rollback of environmental regulations, I can give an example, right? The EPA's new PFAS drinking water rule. So it requires utilities and companies to meet strict contamination limits for forever chemicals. And

To give background, the role will cost U.S. businesses and utilities around $1.5 billion annually with significant compliance and litigation risks for companies like 3M, which I mentioned earlier, DuPont, Chemours. They've already settled over $11 billion in PFAS-related lawsuits. And if the role is rolled back, which I do think unlikely, but if it is even weakened, it could shift financially.

financial liabilities from regulated companies back onto local governments and taxpayers, but increasing uncertainty for businesses really trying to manage long-term water risks. This was very insightful. Thank you so much for this report on water scarcity and thank you for coming on the show. Yeah, my pleasure. Thank you for listening to Xero. And now for the sound of the week. That's the sound of a salmon cannon.

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