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If 1.5C is dead, what happens next?

2025/1/9
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Zero: The Climate Race

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Zahra Hirji
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Akshat Rathi: 我关注到过去十年是有记录以来最热的十年,并且2024年很可能是有史以来最热的一年。突破1.5摄氏度这一巴黎协定的目标,对我们所有人都有影响,因为它与各国政府达成的目标以及企业将净零目标与1.5摄氏度目标挂钩有关。我们需要认真对待这一问题,并探讨其影响。 在节目中,我和两位彭博社绿色新闻记者讨论了这一新现实的意义。我们探讨了1.5摄氏度目标的含义,以及在全球气温突破这一阈值后,各国政府、企业和活动家应该如何调整其气候目标。我们还讨论了导致气温升高的各种因素,以及应对气候变化挑战的策略。 总的来说,我们需要采取更积极的减排行动,并投资能够从空气中去除二氧化碳的技术,以应对气候变化带来的挑战。 Eric Roston: 虽然2024年全球平均气温超过1.5摄氏度,但这并不意味着巴黎协定的失败,因为该目标指的是20年平均值。然而,这仍然是一个值得关注的信号,因为它可能预示着全球变暖的加速。 导致2024年气温异常升高的原因可能有很多,包括气候变化、厄尔尼诺现象、太阳活动以及人类排放的硫酸气溶胶减少。减少船舶燃料中的硫含量虽然减少了污染,但也导致了气温升高,因为硫酸气溶胶具有冷却效应。此外,中国减少气溶胶排放也导致了气温升高。低层云的减少也可能导致比预期更多的升温。 我们需要减少碳排放,这是应对"超调"的关键,其他技术手段则可以作为补充。过分依赖"超调"策略可能会导致人们忽视当前减排的必要性。我们需要同时努力减少排放和投资能够从空气中去除二氧化碳的技术。 Zahra Hirji: 超过1.5摄氏度预示着更频繁和严重的极端天气事件,这不仅破坏环境,还对经济和人类生命造成危害。1.5摄氏度目标虽然重要,但其设定本身具有一定任意性,科学家们更关注的是尽可能降低升温幅度。 虽然1.5摄氏度目标可能难以实现,但它促进了气候行动的进展。目前,人们难以公开讨论比1.5摄氏度更高的目标,因为这会被视为倒退。无论目标是多少,关键在于各国政府和企业都需要采取更积极的减排行动。有效的应对气候变化的行动需要政府制定相关法规。应对气候变化是一个复杂的问题,需要自下而上和自上而下的努力。"超调"已经成为现实,我们需要认真思考如何应对。

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Why is the 1.5°C temperature threshold significant in the context of climate change?

The 1.5°C threshold is a key goal under the Paris Agreement, aimed at limiting global warming to prevent severe climate impacts. It has become a rallying point for governments, corporations, and activists, with many net-zero targets tied to this goal. Breaching this threshold, even temporarily, signals a significant shift in the climate trajectory and underscores the urgency of reducing emissions.

What factors contributed to the global temperature surpassing 1.5°C in 2024?

The 1.5°C breach in 2024 was influenced by climate change, El Niño (a natural warming phase), and reduced sulfur aerosols from shipping and industrial emissions. Sulfur aerosols previously had a cooling effect, and their reduction has led to additional warming. Other factors include increased solar activity and potential changes in cloud cover, though the exact combination of causes remains unclear.

What are the potential implications of accelerating global warming?

Accelerating warming could lead to more frequent and severe extreme weather events, such as heatwaves, hurricanes, and floods. It also raises concerns about surpassing climate models' predictions, potentially resulting in worse-than-expected scenarios. This acceleration could destabilize ecosystems, economies, and human health, making it critical to address emissions urgently.

Why are scientists concerned about the disappearance of low-lying clouds?

Low-lying clouds play a crucial role in reflecting sunlight and cooling the Earth. Their disappearance could indicate a shift in the Earth's climate system, potentially leading to more warming. If this change is permanent, it could exacerbate global warming beyond current projections, making it a significant red flag for climate scientists.

How does the 1.5°C goal influence corporate and government climate actions?

The 1.5°C goal serves as a benchmark for corporate net-zero targets and government climate policies. Many organizations align their strategies with this goal to demonstrate commitment to climate action. However, as the likelihood of breaching 1.5°C increases, there is growing debate about whether to recalibrate goals to more realistic targets, such as 1.6°C or 1.7°C, while maintaining aggressive emission reduction efforts.

What is the concept of 'overshoot' in climate science?

Overshoot refers to the scenario where global temperatures exceed the 1.5°C target before being brought back down through technologies like direct air capture and other carbon removal methods. While overshoot is increasingly seen as inevitable, it requires both reducing emissions and investing in carbon removal technologies to eventually stabilize temperatures.

Why is the reduction of sulfur aerosols contributing to global warming?

Sulfur aerosols, previously emitted by shipping and industrial activities, had a cooling effect by reflecting sunlight. Regulations reducing sulfur emissions have eliminated this cooling effect, leading to additional warming. This unintended consequence highlights the complexity of climate interventions and the need for comprehensive strategies to address both pollution and warming.

How does political leadership impact global climate action?

Political leadership plays a critical role in driving climate action through regulations, funding, and international cooperation. Hostile political environments, such as those with leaders opposed to climate policies, can slow progress and push back necessary measures. However, grassroots movements and international coalitions can still drive action, even in the absence of supportive leadership.

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In December, Europe’s Copernicus weather service announced that it was “virtually certain” that 2024 would be the hottest year ever. What’s more, the global average temperature last year appears to have surpassed 1.5C for the first time, blowing past a threshold that’s taken on enormous significance in the fight against climate change. Does that mean governments, corporations, and activists recalibrate their climate goals? Akshat Rathi speaks with reporters Eric Roston and Zahra Hirji about what this new reality means. Explore further:

Zero is a production of Bloomberg Green. Our producer is Mythili Rao. Special thanks this week to Sharon Chen, Siobhan Wagner, Ethan Steinberg, and Jessica Beck. Thoughts or suggestions? Email us at [email protected]. For more coverage of climate change and solutions, visit https://www.bloomberg.com/green)

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