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What happens to the energy transition with the US exiting the Paris Agreement?

2025/1/30
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Akshat Rathi: 我关注到特朗普政府再次退出巴黎协定这一事件。这与2017年有所不同,因为现在距离2030年的目标更近,气候变化的影响也更加严重,因此行动的紧迫性更高。此外,与2017年相比,现在支持气候行动的世界领导人减少了,清洁能源更便宜,但利率更高,对清洁能源的投资规模也更大。美国退出巴黎协定将导致气候融资减少,并对全球气候行动产生影响,但其他国家并没有效仿美国退出。 我与Helen Clarkson交谈过,她提到美国公司可能会采取“绿色沉默”策略,即继续进行环保活动,但不公开宣传,以避免在社交媒体上引起负面关注。然而,欧洲公司对巴黎协定较为承诺。值得一提的是,迈克·布隆伯格将弥补美国对联合国气候机构的贡献。 总的来说,尽管美国退出巴黎协定,但气候行动的意识已经深入人心,对气候行动的需求并没有下降。巴黎协定生效十年来,取得了显著的成功,例如清洁能源投资的增长。 Albert Cheung: 我们对能源转型进行了深入研究,发现尽管清洁能源投资创纪录,但距离实现气候目标仍有很大差距。2024年全球能源转型投资达到创纪录的2.1万亿美元,但增长速度有所放缓。中国在能源转型领域的投资超过8000亿美元,是全球增长的主要驱动力。 能源转型经历了三个阶段:牺牲、机遇和竞争。最初,能源转型被视为一种牺牲,各国需要权衡经济增长和环境保护。巴黎协定之后,能源转型被视为一种机遇,各国竞相发展清洁能源。目前,能源转型已进入竞争阶段,各国都在努力争取在清洁能源领域占据优势。 特朗普政府的政策可能会减缓美国电动汽车的普及速度,但增长仍然存在。欧洲电动汽车销量在2024年持平,这可能是因为汽车制造商在等待更严格的排放标准生效。《巴黎协定》框架仍然很重要,因为它可以促使各国制定更严格的气候目标。美国退出《巴黎协定》可能会导致其他国家的气候目标不那么雄心勃勃。 Maithili Rao: 作为节目的主持人,我与Akshat Rathi和Albert Cheung讨论了美国退出巴黎协定对能源转型的影响。我们分析了美国退出巴黎协定对国际气候外交、公司气候目标以及其他国家气候行动的影响。我们还讨论了能源转型不同阶段的特点,以及未来能源转型发展趋势。

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This chapter compares Trump's two withdrawals from the Paris Agreement, highlighting similarities like the initial lack of other countries following suit and the loss of US climate funding, and key differences such as the increased urgency due to time constraints and cheaper clean energy.
  • Trump's second withdrawal has more lasting consequences than the first.
  • The urgency to act on climate change has grown since 2017.
  • Clean energy is now cheaper, and global investment in the energy transition is significantly higher.

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With President Donald Trump back in office, the US is leaving the Paris Agreement for the second time. Unlike in 2017, this withdrawal is set to have more lasting consequences, Akshat Rathi tells producer Mythili Rao. Meanwhile, even as the US gives up its climate leadership, China’s focus on clean energy is growing. A new report from BloombergNEF finds that global investment in the energy transition surpassed $2 trillion for the first time in 2024, with China driving two thirds of year-on-year growth. BNEF Deputy CEO Albert Cheung shares the report’s highlights, and reflects on the role international competition will play in this next phase of reaching net zero.

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Zero is a production of Bloomberg Green. Our producer is Mythili Rao. Special thanks this week to Sharon Chen, Alfred Cang, Ewa Krukowska, John Ainger, Jen Dlouhy, Zahra Hirji, Lou Del Bello, Simone Iglesias, Amanda Hurley and Jessica Beck. Thoughts or suggestions? Email us at [email protected]. For more coverage of climate change and solutions, visit https://www.bloomberg.com/green).

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