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The Best of 2024 with Sarah Guo and Elad Gil

2024/12/26
logo of podcast No Priors: Artificial Intelligence | Technology | Startups

No Priors: Artificial Intelligence | Technology | Startups

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Jensen Huang: 英伟达的战略已从单一芯片扩展到完整的数据中心生态系统。他们构建了各种配置的数据中心,以确保软件的稳定性和可扩展性,并支持其CUDA平台在不同云平台上的广泛应用。最终目标是实现软件的‘一次构建,随处运行’。 Andrej Karpathy: 未来的AI模型可能比我们想象的要小得多,因为当前模型浪费了大量容量来记住不重要的信息。他认为,模型小型化和去中心化(即‘拥有’而非‘租赁’AI模型)对于AI的普及至关重要。 Bret Taylor: 未来企业与客户的互动将主要通过公司代理(Company Agents)进行,而不是网站。公司代理能够处理各种客户服务和商务事务,这是一种基于当前技术的‘唾手可得’的机会。 OpenAI's Sora Team: Sora视频模型能够学习关于世界的知识,并理解3D信息,这对于构建更智能的AI模型至关重要。他们认为,通过简单的预测数据,模型能够在规模上得到更好的提升,这与人类世界模型的构建方式类似。 Dmitri Dolgov: 实现完全自动驾驶(移除驾驶员)并达到100%的准确率比看起来要困难得多,其挑战在于‘多个九’的准确率。尽管AI技术进步使得构建自动驾驶系统更容易,但要达到完全自动驾驶的安全性要求仍然非常困难。 Dylan Field: 未来的用户界面将是多种模式的结合,语音、文本和其他界面形式将并存,而不是相互取代。他看好智能摄像头作为一种新的输入方式的潜力。 Alexandr Wang: 通往AGI的道路更像‘治愈癌症’而不是‘研发疫苗’,需要逐步解决许多小问题,而不是一蹴而就。他认为,当前模型的泛化能力有限,需要针对特定领域构建独立的数据飞轮来推动性能提升。

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Why does NVIDIA consider itself a data center ecosystem rather than just a chip company?

NVIDIA has evolved from producing single chips to building entire data centers to ensure software and hardware integration works at scale. They build vertically integrated systems, optimize them full stack, and then disaggregate components for sale. This approach allows NVIDIA to graft its infrastructure into major cloud platforms like GCP, AWS, and Azure, ensuring CUDA, their computing platform, is consistent across environments.

What is Andrej Karpathy's perspective on the future of AI models and their size?

Andrej Karpathy believes future AI models could be much smaller than current ones, potentially as small as 1 billion parameters. He argues that current models waste capacity on irrelevant data, like SHA hashes, and that distillation techniques can effectively reduce model size while maintaining performance. The cognitive core of AI, which focuses on thinking and using tools, can be extremely compact.

How does Bret Taylor envision the future of business interactions with AI agents?

Bret Taylor predicts that businesses will transition from websites to branded AI agents that handle customer interactions, including product inquiries, commerce, and customer service. These agents will become the primary digital presence for companies, similar to how websites were in the 1990s. Sierra, his company, is already building such agents for clients like Sonos and SiriusXM.

What insights did the OpenAI Sora team share about video models and their role in AGI?

The OpenAI Sora team highlighted that their video model, Sora, learns about the world, including 3D structures and physical interactions, purely from visual data. This grounding in visual information is crucial for developing more intelligent AI models that better understand the world. They believe Sora’s ability to model the world will contribute significantly to the path toward AGI.

Why is achieving full autonomy in self-driving cars more challenging than it appears?

Dmitri Dolgov of Waymo explains that the difficulty lies in achieving 100% accuracy, which requires solving the long tail of rare edge cases. While advanced driver assistance systems can handle many scenarios, full autonomy demands near-perfect reliability across millions of miles, a much harder problem than initial prototyping or driver-assisted systems.

How does Dylan Field see the evolution of user interfaces in an AI-driven world?

Dylan Field believes that while conversational and agent-based interfaces will grow, traditional UIs will not disappear. Instead, new modalities like voice and intelligent cameras will complement existing interfaces. He predicts that UI will become more sophisticated, and users will interact with AI through a mix of methods rather than relying solely on one type of interface.

What is Alexandr Wang's view on the path to AGI?

Alexandr Wang compares the path to AGI to curing cancer, where solving many small, independent problems is necessary rather than achieving a single breakthrough. He believes there is limited generalization across modalities and that each niche capability will require separate data flywheels. This approach suggests a slow, incremental progress toward AGI rather than a sudden leap.

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This chapter explores NVIDIA's remarkable growth, transitioning from a chip company to a data center ecosystem. Jensen Huang discusses the reasons behind this evolution, highlighting the importance of building full data centers for software development and optimization.
  • NVIDIA's stock price tripled in 2024.
  • NVIDIA considers the data center the new unit of computing.
  • NVIDIA builds various data center configurations for diverse customer needs.
  • NVIDIA aims for software to run consistently across different platforms.

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2024 has been a year of transformative technological progress, marked by conversations that have reshaped our understanding of AI's evolution and what lies ahead. Throughout the year, Sarah and Elad have had the privilege of speaking with some of the brightest minds in the field. As we look back on the past months, we’re excited to share highlights from some of our favorite *No Priors *podcast episodes. Featured guests include Jensen Huang (Nvidia), Andrej Karpathy (OpenAI, Tesla), Bret Taylor (Sierra), Aditya Ramesh, Tim Brooks, and Bill Peebles (OpenAI’s Sora Team), Dmitri Dolgov (Waymo), Dylan Field (Figma), and Alexandr Wang (Scale). Want to dive deeper? Listen to the full episodes here:

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Timecodes:

0:00 Introduction 

0:15 Jensen Huang on building at data-center scale 

4:00 Andrej Karpathy on the AI exo-cortex, model control, and a shift to smaller models 

7:14 Bret Taylor on the agentic future of business interactions 

11:17 OpenAI’s Sora team on visual models and their role in AGI 

15:53 Waymo’s Dmitri Dolgov on bridging the gap to full autonomy and the challenge of 100% accuracy 

19:00 Figma’s Dylan Field on the future of interfaces and new modalities 

23:29 Scale AI’s Alexandr Wang on the journey to AGI 

26:29 Outro