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The evolution and promise of RAG architecture with Tengyu Ma from Voyage AI

2024/6/6
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Tengyu Ma: 本人研究涵盖深度学习多个领域,从理论到实践应用,目前专注于提升大型语言模型的效率和推理能力。认为未来AI发展需要提高数据和计算效率,并重点关注推理任务及其应用。研究经历了从矩阵补全、嵌入模型到Transformer和对比学习的演变,致力于优化大型语言模型的训练效率,开发的优化器SOFIA能将大型语言模型的预训练效率提高2倍,在百亿参数规模的模型训练中效率提升1.6倍。认为将AI技术商业化的时机已成熟,因为基础模型的出现简化了AI在行业中的应用。Voyage AI主要构建用于改进检索系统质量的重排序器和嵌入模型,因为在RAG系统中,检索质量是影响响应质量的关键瓶颈。RAG系统通过检索步骤和生成步骤,利用公司内部知识来生成更准确、无幻觉的答案。RAG的应用范围广泛,几乎涵盖所有领域。与微调相比,RAG更容易实现且更准确,并能有效减少幻觉。从成本和效率角度,RAG优于长上下文Transformer,因为RAG类似于长时记忆,而长上下文Transformer类似于短时记忆,RAG的层次化结构使其更有效率。代理链技术与嵌入模型和重排序器是正交的,两者可以结合使用。改进RAG系统的方法包括改进大型语言模型的提示方式以及提升检索质量,后者可以通过改进嵌入模型和使用软件工程技巧来实现。领域特定微调可以提高嵌入模型的性能,因为有限的参数需要针对特定领域进行优化。嵌入模型的维度会影响向量搜索的延迟,因此需要在延迟预算内找到最佳的维度。构建RAG系统时,应尽早关注检索组件的投资,并通过性能分析确定瓶颈。随着大型语言模型的改进,RAG系统将变得更简单,组件数量更少,并且对数据格式的要求更低。学术界在AI领域应专注于长期创新和具有挑战性的问题,例如推理任务。 Sarah: 引导访谈,提出问题,并与Tengyu Ma进行讨论。

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Why did Tengyu Ma decide to start Voyage AI after his academic research?

He felt the timing was right for commercialization as AI technologies had matured, making it easier to apply AI to industry with foundation models. The process of applying AI had become much simpler, requiring only prompt tuning and retrieval-augmented generation (RAG) on top of pre-trained models.

What is the main bottleneck in implementing RAG systems according to Tengyu Ma?

The quality of the retrieval part is the main bottleneck. If the retrieved documents are relevant, the large language model can synthesize good answers, but poor retrieval quality significantly impacts the response quality.

How does Tengyu Ma compare RAG to long-context transformers in terms of cost efficiency?

RAG is much cheaper than long-context transformers because the latter requires storing all intermediate computations for large contexts, which can be prohibitively expensive. RAG, being a hierarchical system, is more cost-efficient as it retrieves only relevant information for each query.

What are the two main ways to improve RAG systems according to Tengyu Ma?

One is to improve the neural networks, such as embedding models and re-rankers, which require heavy data-driven training. The other is to improve the software engineering aspects, like better data chunking, iterative retrieval, and incorporating metadata.

How does domain-specific fine-tuning improve embedding models in RAG systems?

Domain-specific fine-tuning allows embedding models to excel in particular domains by customizing the limited number of parameters to focus on specific tasks. This can lead to improvements of 5% to 20% in retrieval quality, depending on the domain and the amount of data available.

What advice does Tengyu Ma give to companies building RAG systems?

He suggests starting with a prototype and immediately profiling both latency and retrieval quality. If retrieval quality is the bottleneck, companies should consider swapping components like embedding models or re-rankers to improve performance.

What does Tengyu Ma predict for the future of RAG systems as LLMs improve?

He predicts that RAG systems will become simpler, with fewer components and less need for complex software engineering. Embedding models will handle multi-modality and data formats more effectively, reducing the need for manual preprocessing.

What role does Tengyu Ma believe academia should play in the AI industry?

He believes academia should focus on long-term innovations and research questions that industry may not prioritize due to short-term incentives. This includes working on efficiency improvements and challenging reasoning tasks that require innovative approaches.

Chapters
Tengyu Ma's research spans various deep learning fields, focusing on theoretical understanding and practical applications. His recent work centers on improving the efficiency of training large language models and enhancing their reasoning capabilities. He highlights the importance of efficient data and compute usage due to resource limitations.
  • Focus on theoretical foundations and practical applications of deep learning.
  • Emphasis on efficiency in training large language models.
  • Development of the SOFIA optimizer, resulting in significant training efficiency improvements.

Shownotes Transcript

After Tengyu Ma spent years at Stanford researching AI optimization, embedding models, and transformers, he took a break from academia to start Voyage AI which allows enterprise customers to have the most accurate retrieval possible through the most useful foundational data. Tengyu joins Sarah on this week’s episode of No priors to discuss why RAG systems are winning as the dominant architecture in enterprise and the evolution of foundational data that has allowed RAG to flourish. And while fine-tuning is still in the conversation, Tengyu argues that RAG will continue to evolve as the cheapest, quickest, and most accurate system for data retrieval. 

They also discuss methods for growing context windows and managing latency budgets, how Tengyu’s research has informed his work at Voyage, and the role academia should play as AI grows as an industry. 

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**Show Notes: **

(0:00) Introduction

(1:59) Key points of Tengyu’s research

(4:28) Academia compared to industry

(6:46) Voyage AI overview

(9:44) Enterprise RAG use cases

(15:23) LLM long-term memory and token limitations

(18:03) Agent chaining and data management

(22:01) Improving enterprise RAG 

(25:44) Latency budgets

(27:48) Advice for building RAG systems

(31:06) Learnings as an AI founder

(32:55) The role of academia in AI