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Socrates in Prison

2025/2/20
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Angie Hobbs: 我认为苏格拉底试图通过其死的方式来树立一个好的死亡和生活的榜样,死亡方式是生活方式的一部分。他被控不相信雅典的众神、相信新的神明以及腐蚀年轻人,并被判处死刑,等待着饮鸩而死。他选择死亡,或许是为了树立榜样,并意识到其死的方式可能与其哲学思想一样具有影响力。 James Warren: 克里托是苏格拉底的长期朋友,富有,并试图劝说苏格拉底逃离监狱,避免被处死。苏格拉底是雅典精英社会的一员,与社会名流关系密切,但他因其批判性思维和对社会习俗的质疑而可能不受欢迎。 Fiona Lee: 苏格拉底认为应该听从理性而非大众意见,并以身体保健的比喻说明。他认为过着身心俱损的生活不值得,而值得追求的是美好、公正的生活,因此应该忽视大众意见。 James Warren: 苏格拉底对法律的服从基于法律对其的益处和其与城邦之间隐含的契约。他认为违反法律即破坏法治,危害城邦的稳定。 Angie Hobbs: 苏格拉底对法律的顺从似乎很奇怪,因为他曾公开反对雅典的民主制度和法律。雅典法律认为,违反法律即破坏法治,危害城邦的稳定。 Fiona Lee: 苏格拉底对法律的服从程度存在争议,可能只是最低限度的服从,而非完全认可法律的观点。他认为,通过其行为,特别是留在雅典的行为,他已经同意在法律之下生活。 James Warren: 苏格拉底在狱中的经历塑造了他作为坚定、开放和理性哲学家的形象,并成为后世哲学家和思想家的榜样。 Fiona Lee: 《克里托篇》和《斐多篇》中,苏格拉底对信念的坚持、对理性的追求以及对与他人达成共识的渴望,对后世产生了深远的影响。 Angie Hobbs: 苏格拉底的持久影响力源于他为“如何好好生活”提供了榜样,展现了平静、勇敢、友善的品格,以及开放的思维方式。

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This section sets the stage by recounting Socrates' trial and conviction for impiety and corrupting the youth, leading to his death sentence. It discusses the delay of his execution due to a religious festival and explores the reasons behind his unpopularity in Athens.
  • Socrates' conviction for impiety and corrupting the youth
  • Death sentence and delay due to religious festival
  • Socrates' unpopularity due to challenging conventional beliefs

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Melvyn Bragg and guests discuss Plato's Crito and Phaedo, his accounts of the last days of Socrates in prison in 399 BC as he waited to be executed by drinking hemlock. Both works show Socrates preparing to die in the way he had lived: doing philosophy. In the Crito, Plato shows Socrates arguing that he is duty bound not to escape from prison even though a bribe would open the door, while in the Phaedo his argument is for the immortality of the soul which, at the point of death, might leave uncorrupted from the 'prison' of his body, the one escape that truly mattered to Socrates. His example in his last days has proved an inspiration to thinkers over the centuries and in no small way has helped ensure the strength of his reputation.

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Angie Hobbs Professor of the Public Understanding of Philosophy at the University of Sheffield

Fiona Leigh Associate Professor in the Department of Philosophy at University College London

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James Warren Professor of Ancient Philosophy at the University of Cambridge and Fellow of Corpus Christi College, Cambridge

Producer: Simon Tillotson

Reading list:

David Ebrey, Plato’s Phaedo: Forms, Death and the Philosophical Life (Cambridge University Press, 2023)

Dorothea Frede, ‘The Final Proof of the Immortality of the Soul in Plato’s Phaedo 102a-107a’ (Phronesis 23, 1978)

W. K. C. Guthrie, A History of Greek Philosophy, vol. 4, Plato: The Man and his Dialogues, Earlier Period (Cambridge University Press, 2008)

Verity Harte, ‘Conflicting Values in Plato’s Crito’ (Archiv. für Geschichte der Philosophie 81, 1999)

Angie Hobbs, Why Plato Matters Now (Bloomsbury, forthcoming 2025), especially chapter 5

Rachana Kamtekar (ed.), Plato’s Euthyphro, Apology and Crito: Critical Essays (Rowman and Littlefield, 2004)

Richard Kraut, Socrates and the State (Princeton University Press, 1984)

Melissa Lane, ‘Argument and Agreement in Plato’s Crito’ (History of Political Thought 19, 1998)

Plato (trans. Chris Emlyn-Jones and William Preddy), Euthyphro, Apology, Crito, Phaedo and Phaedrus (Loeb Classical Library, Harvard University Press, 2017)

Plato (trans. G. M. A. Grube and John Cooper), The Trial and Death of Socrates: Euthyphro Apology, Crito, Phaedo (Hackett, 2001)

Plato (trans. Christopher Rowe), The Last Days of Socrates: Euthyphro, Apology, Crito, Phaedo (Penguin, 2010)

Donald R. Robinson (ed.), The Cambridge Companion to Socrates (Cambridge University Press, 2011)

David Sedley and Alex Long (eds.), Plato: Meno and Phaedo (Cambridge University Press, 2010)

James Warren, ‘Forms of Agreement in Plato’s Crito’ (Proceedings of the Aristotelian Society, Volume 123, Issue 1, April 2023)

Robin Waterfield, Why Socrates Died: Dispelling the Myths (Faber and Faber, 2010)

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