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Becoming an AI PM | Aman Khan (Arize AI, ex-Spotify, Apple, Cruise)

2024/11/14
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Aman Khan
以技术和商业交叉点为基础,领导和开发多家公司的AI产品,并在Arize AI担任产品总监。
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Lenny Rachitsky
曾任Airbnb产品领袖,Localmind联合创始人和CEO,著名产品管理博客和播客作者。
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Lenny Rachitsky 探讨了AI产品经理的定义和与传统产品经理的区别。Aman Khan 认为AI产品经理的职责是整合资源,交付有影响力的产品,并代表用户解决问题。他将AI产品经理分为三类:构建AI平台工具,以AI为核心产品,以及运用AI工具赋能产品管理。

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Aman Khan discusses the different types of AI Product Managers, including AI Platform PMs, AI Product PMs, and AI-Powered PMs, and how they build tools for AI engineers or create AI-driven products.
  • AI Platform PMs build tools for AI engineers.
  • AI Product PMs create products centered around AI technology.
  • AI-Powered PMs use AI tools to enhance their product management tasks.

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Aman Khan is Director of Product at Arize AI, an observability company for AI engineers at companies like Uber, Instacart, and Discord. Previously he was an AI Product Manager at Spotify on the ML Platform team, enabling hundreds of engineers to build and ship products across the company. He has also led and worked on products at Cruise, Zipline, and Apple. In our conversation, we discuss:

• What is an “AI product manager”?

• How to break into AI PM

• What separates top 5% AI PMs

• How to thrive as an individual-contributor PM

• Common pitfalls to avoid when building AI products

• The importance of energy and curiosity in product roles

• Much more

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**Find the transcript at: **https://www.lennysnewsletter.com/p/becoming-an-ai-pm-aman-khan)

Where to find Aman Khan:

• X: https://x.com/_amankhan)

• LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/amanberkeley/)

• Website: https://amanalikhan.com/)

Where to find Lenny:

• Newsletter: https://www.lennysnewsletter.com)

• X: https://twitter.com/lennysan)

• LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/lennyrachitsky/)

In this episode, we cover:

(00:00) Aman’s background

(06:16) Understanding AI product management roles

(13:29) Getting started as an AI product manager

(18:14) Building a portfolio and standing out

(22:31) Why product management is not dead

(28:56) How to thrive as an AI product manager

(35:42) Finding good ideas that are AI-oriented

(39:27) Be careful not to automate away every customer experience

(42:53) What separates top 5% AI PMs

(46:55) Key habits for long-term IC success

(52:48) The importance of energy in meetings

(57:00) Wandering vs. waiting

(01:01:41) Amplifying signal through AI tools

(01:03:18) Just have fun

(01:05:36) Lightning round

Referenced:

• AI Resources and Tools for PMs (Updated Oct 2024): https://open.substack.com/pub/amankhan1/p/ai-resources-and-tools-for-pms-updated)

• Unlocking the AI PM Dream: Your Roadmap to Success: https://amankhan1.substack.com/p/unlocking-the-ai-pm-dream-your-roadmap)

• Arize: https://arize.com/)

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• Brian Chesky’s new playbook: https://www.lennysnewsletter.com/p/brian-cheskys-contrarian-approach)

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• Introducing the Realtime API: https://openai.com/index/introducing-the-realtime-api/)

• Intro to Large Language Models | Andrej Karpathy: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zjkBMFhNj_g)

• Watch Me Build an App in 60 Minutes With o1 and Cursor: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9Zmhe6_T-xU)

• Greg Isenberg on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/gisenberg/)

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• Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/)

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• How to grow a subscription business | Yuriy Timen (Grammarly, Canva, Airtable): https://www.lennysnewsletter.com/p/transform-your-subscription-growth)

• When Identifying the Problem Isn’t Enough: Lessons from Boxed Cake Mix by Ann M. Aly, TechFlow Director of Human Centered Design: https://www.techflow.com/when-identifying-the-problem-isnt-enough-lessons-from-boxed-cake-mix/)

• Waymo: https://waymo.com/)

• The Ikea effect: https://thedecisionlab.com/biases/ikea-effect)

• Blue Apron: https://www.blueapron.com/)

• Unorthodox PM wisdom: Automating user insights, unselling job candidates, logging every decision, more | Kevin Yien (Stripe, Square, Mutiny): https://www.lennysnewsletter.com/p/unorthodox-pm-wisdom-kevin-yien)

• LeBron James: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/LeBron_James)

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• Aparna Dhinakaran on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/aparnadhinakaran/)

• Why most public speaking advice is wrong—and how to finally overcome your speaking anxiety | Tristan de Montebello (CEO & co-founder of Ultraspeaking): https://www.lennysnewsletter.com/p/master-public-speaking-tristan-de-montebello)

• Ultraspeaking: https://ultraspeaking.com/lenny/)

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• Websim: https://websim.ai/)

• Appeel Books: https://appeel.brandeditems.com/)

• Steve Jobs quote: https://www.goodreads.com/quotes/374630-your-time-is-limited-so-don-t-waste-it-living-someone#)

• Becoming a conscious leader: Leading without fear, finding your life’s objective function, and getting better at vision and strategy | John Mark Nickels (Uber, Waymo, DoorDash): https://www.lennysnewsletter.com/p/becoming-a-conscious-leader-john-mark-nickels)

• Aman Khan (cricket player): https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aman_Hakim_Khan)

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