cover of episode How Palantir built the ultimate founder factory | Nabeel S. Qureshi (founder, writer, ex-Palantir)

How Palantir built the ultimate founder factory | Nabeel S. Qureshi (founder, writer, ex-Palantir)

2025/5/11
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Nabeel Qureshi: 我在 Palantir 的八年经历让我深刻体会到,该公司成功的关键在于其独特的文化和招聘策略。我们筛选那些具有独立思考能力、广泛知识面和强烈竞争意识的人才。30% 的 Palantir 产品经理离职后会创办公司,这充分说明了我们培养的领导者素质。 Palantir 的“前沿部署工程师”模式,让工程师深入客户现场工作,与客户团队并肩作战,从而培养出杰出的产品领导者。这种模式不仅能深入了解客户需求,还能快速迭代产品,并最终将客户的个性化解决方案转化为可推广的产品。 我们取消了传统的职位头衔,避免了不必要的内部竞争,让员工更专注于工作本身。此外,我们注重培养员工的客户同理心和解决问题的能力,这使得我们的产品经理在离职后能够迅速适应新的环境并取得成功。 Lenny Rachitsky: Palantir 的成功不仅仅体现在其高估值和高利润率上,更在于其培养了大量优秀的产品经理和创始人。Palantir 的产品经理与众不同,他们更了解客户需求,更具有执行力,并且在离职后更容易获得成功。 Palantir 的“前沿部署工程师”模式非常独特,它让工程师直接参与客户项目,深入了解客户需求,并根据实际情况开发或改进产品。这种模式与传统客户沟通方式相比,更强调工程师的现场参与和深度合作,从而更好地理解和解决客户问题。 Palantir 的成功也离不开其对数据处理的重视,这包括数据采集、清洗和分析等多个环节。Palantir 拥有强大的数据平台,能够帮助客户轻松处理和分析数据,从而提高效率并解决实际问题。

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**Nabeel Qureshi **is an entrepreneur, writer, researcher, and visiting scholar of AI policy at the Mercatus Center (alongside Tyler Cowen). Previously, he spent nearly eight years at Palantir, working as a forward-deployed engineer. His work at Palantir ranged from accelerating the Covid-19 response to applying AI to drug discovery to optimizing aircraft manufacturing at Airbus. Nabeel was also a founding employee and VP of business development at GoCardless, a leading European fintech unicorn.

What you’ll learn:

• Why almost a third of all Palantir’s PMs go on to start companies

• How the “forward-deployed engineer” model works and why it creates exceptional product leaders

• How Palantir transformed from a “sparkling Accenture” into a $200 billion data/software platform company with more than 80% margins

• The unconventional hiring approach that screens for independent-minded, intellectually curious, and highly competitive people

• Why the company intentionally avoids traditional titles and career ladders—and what they do instead

• Why they built an ontology-first data platform that LLMs love

• How Palantir’s controversial “bat signal” recruiting strategy filtered for specific talent types

• The moral case for working at a company like Palantir

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Where to find Nabeel S. Qureshi:

• X: https://x.com/nabeelqu)

• LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/nabeelqu/)

• Website: https://nabeelqu.co/)

Where to find Lenny:

• Newsletter: https://www.lennysnewsletter.com)

• X: https://twitter.com/lennysan)

• LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/lennyrachitsky/)

In this episode, we cover:

(00:00) Introduction to Nabeel S. Qureshi

(05:10) Palantir’s unique culture and hiring

(13:29) What Palantir looks for in people

(16:14) Why they don't have titles

(19:11) Forward-deployed engineers at Palantir

(25:23) Key principles of Palantir's success

(30:00) Gotham and Foundry

(36:58) The ontology concept

(38:02) Life as a forward-deployed engineer

(41:36) Balancing custom solutions and product vision

(46:36) Advice on how to implement forward-deployed engineers

(50:41) The current state of forward-deployed engineers at Palantir

(53:15) The power of ingesting, cleaning and analyzing data

(59:25) Hiring for mission-driven startups

(01:05:30) What makes Palantir PMs different

(01:10:00) The moral question of Palantir

(01:16:03) Advice for new startups

(01:21:12) AI corner

(01:24:00) Contrarian corner

(01:25:42) Lightning round and final thoughts

Referenced:

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• Alex Karp: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alex_Karp)

• Stephen Cohen: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stephen_Cohen_(entrepreneur))

• Joe Lonsdale on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/jtlonsdale/)

• Tyler Cowen’s website: https://tylercowen.com/)

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• Safe Superintelligence: https://ssi.inc/)

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• Stripe: https://stripe.com/)

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• Limited Engagement: Is Tech Becoming More Diverse?: https://www.bkmag.com/2017/01/31/limited-engagement-creating-diversity-in-the-tech-industry/)

• Operation Warp Speed: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operation_Warp_Speed)

• Mark Zuckerberg testifies: https://www.businessinsider.com/facebook-ceo-mark-zuckerberg-testifies-congress-libra-cryptocurrency-2019-10)

• Anduril: https://www.anduril.com/)

• SpaceX: https://www.spacex.com/)

• Principles: https://nabeelqu.co/principles)

• Wispr Flow: https://wisprflow.ai/)

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• Gemini Pro 2.5: https://deepmind.google/technologies/gemini/pro/)

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• Swyx on x: https://x.com/swyx)

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• AlphaZero: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/AlphaZero)

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Recommended books:

The Technological Republic: Hard Power, Soft Belief, and the Future of the West:* *https://www.amazon.com/Technological-Republic-Power-Belief-Future/dp/0593798694)

Zero to One: Notes on Startups, or How to Build the Future: https://www.amazon.com/Zero-One-Notes-Startups-Future/dp/0804139296)

Impro: Improvisation and the Theatre: https://www.amazon.com/Impro-Improvisation-Theatre-Keith-Johnstone/dp/0878301178/)

• William Shakespeare: Histories: https://www.amazon.com/Histories-Everymans-Library-William-Shakespeare/dp/0679433120/)

High Output Management: https://www.amazon.com/High-Output-Management-Andrew-Grove/dp/0679762884)

Anna Karenina: https://www.amazon.com/Anna-Karenina-Leo-Tolstoy/dp/0143035002)

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