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“The Counterintelligence Chief” – with FBI Assistant Director Alan Kohler

2023/2/14
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Summary

Alan Kohler joins Andrew to discuss the FBI’s counterintelligence division. He is a recipient of the FBI Director’s Award for Outstanding Counterintelligence Investigation. 

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What You’ll Learn

Intelligence

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  • Counterintelligence vs. Counterespionage

  • How the FBI recruit’s foreign agents 

  • Ideological motivations behind spying

  • Effect of technology on counterintelligence

Reflections

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  • Staying grounded under pressure 

  • The value of creativity

Notes

Alan Kohler (LinkedIn), Website)) has been the FBI Assistant Director for Counterintelligence since 2020. Alan and Andrew (Twitter); LinkedIn)) talk all things counterintelligence.

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- The FBI & Cyber) with Cyber Division Chief Bryan Vorndran, Part 2 (2022)

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Beginner Resources

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- What We Investigate), FBI (n.d.) [webpage]

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- FAQ’S), FBI (n.d.) [webpage]

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- US Opens Counterintelligence Investigation into China Every 12 Hours (Dir. Wray),) MSNBC (2022) [video]

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What We Know About China’s Spy Agency,) Bloomberg Originals (2019) [video]

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- Hollow Nickel/Rudolf Abel), FBI (n.d.) [Article]

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- NCSC Mission, Vision, and Goals), ODNI (n.d.) [Website]

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**Glossary: **

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Counterintelligence: Information gathered, and activities conducted to identify, deceive, exploit, disrupt, or protect against espionage or other intelligence activities

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**FBI Attaché: **a special agent assigned to a U.S. embassy or consulate overseas to liaise with local law enforcement and intelligence agencies. They pursue terrorist, intelligence, and criminal threats with international dimensions. 

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Occam’s Razor: a rule of thumb theory that states when you are faced with competing explanations for the same phenomenon, the simplest one is probably the correct one. Attributed to William of Ockham, a 14th century English theologian. 

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